STREETSHOTS122081879 02.resized | Roman Melihhov Photography

2013-05-16 Thread Roman Melihhov
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   ^^^ Hair is important (street shots)...


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Re: PESO - Panorama, Navestøylen

2013-05-16 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thanks Rob, You have a point.

And thanks to the rest of you.

It is shot at 23 mm, 7 vertical frames.
I really like the FA 20-35 as a walk about. Perfect for this.
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2013/5/16 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com:
 On 16 May 2013 08:41, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is where I had my lunch today. An hour hiking away from my house.
 Just felt like sharing it.
 http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2013/05/panorama-navestylen-15052013.html

 Hi Tim,

 I really like the first image, very nice pano! I would try a few
 transfer curve on it though, something like this?
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/Curves%2016052013%20122358.jpg

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Re: Boris PESO #25 - Fisherman

2013-05-16 Thread David Mann
On May 16, 2013, at 6:50 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 I like the framing and composition, but it bothers me that the fisherman is 
 neither silhouette nor fully scene. He's kind of in limbo. I'd like some fill 
 from either a reflector or on-camera flash (dialed down to -1 stop or 
 thereabouts).

Or the Highlights  Shadows tool in Photoshop ;)

Cheers,
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Pentax DSLR home-made cable release?

2013-05-16 Thread Bipin Gupta
Ciprian, the IR Remote Control costs just US $ 2.5 (usable on Pentax +
the Canikons + Sony, and the Cable Remote costs US $ 3.5 to 5 from
evil bay. You just have to Google.
And I am certain Romanian Customs will not charge you duty for a
piddly amount.
At least here in India the Post Office Customs did not charge me Duty
on my K-5 Battery - $ 7 shipped + an IR Remote $ 2.50 shipped from
China.
My gad, I cannot understand how they can ship it for just $ 2.50
including Postage from China? If I have to ship a Remote to Romania
from India, it will cost me at least $ 12 for the postage alone. Other
wise I would have sent you a Remote for gratis.
God Bless China.
Regards.
Bipin - from the far away enchanting land.

PS: while in Toronto, I ordered a USB adapter for $0.84 shipped, and a
77mm Centre Pinch Cap for my Sigma 10-20 for $ 1.90 shipped, from
China.

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Re: PESO - Panorama, Navestøylen

2013-05-16 Thread David Mann
On May 16, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is where I had my lunch today. An hour hiking away from my house.
 Just felt like sharing it.
 http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2013/05/panorama-navestylen-15052013.html

Very nice.  Looks a lot like the high country at the feet of our Southern Alps.

Cheers,
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Re: GESO Regional Airshow

2013-05-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 15 May 2013 02:03, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Some neat old birds in that gallery, Rob.  The Catalina, the Mustang, the
 Gooney Bird and the Super Connie are some of my favorites.  And the Gloster
 Meteor, famous, among other things for its ability to perform a Zurabatic
 Cartwheel.

 Is Suzy-Q a Brewster Buffalo?

Hi Paul,

Glad you enjoyed the gallery, Suzy-Q is a CAC CA-12 Boomerang if my
gallery labeling is now correct :)

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Re: GESO Regional Airshow

2013-05-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 15 May 2013 19:32, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is that a CA-12 Boomerang?!

I believe so Bong :)

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Re: GESO Regional Airshow

2013-05-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 15 May 2013 15:10, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 That's a wonderful collection of old birds!

 And the photos are nice too!

Thanks Larry, I enjoyed the day.

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Re: PESO - street scene

2013-05-16 Thread Bruce Walker
That's great, Ann. A wonderful place and moment.

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 Took this a few months ago - dont think I ever showed you guys.
 More my kind of thing than the pumpkin ale shot.

 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/2432085175_KQz68hd/Large


 Btw - this is not coverted to bw or shot in bw -
 which I can see more clearly now myself

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Re: PESO - street scene

2013-05-16 Thread Rick Womer
I really like it--great light, nice composition, and perfect timing with the 
pedestrian.

Cheers,

Rick
 
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Subject: PESO - street scene

Took this a few months ago - dont think I ever showed you guys.
More my kind of thing than the pumpkin ale shot.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/2432085175_KQz68hd/Large


Btw - this is not coverted to bw or shot in bw -
which I can see more clearly now myself

ann



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RE: PESO - street scene

2013-05-16 Thread Gerrit Visser
Wonderful shading. The pedestrian leaving the scene seems to tie the
building to a time gone by.

Gerrit

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Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 11:18 PM
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Subject: PESO - street scene

Took this a few months ago - dont think I ever showed you guys.
More my kind of thing than the pumpkin ale shot.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_
D88Ngw/1/2432085175_KQz68hd/Large


Btw - this is not coverted to bw or shot in bw - which I can see more
clearly now myself

ann



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Re: PESO - street scene

2013-05-16 Thread Jack Davis
Beautiful light enhancing pleasing architecture.
Don't believe I've seen this.

Jack


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Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:17 PM
Subject: PESO - street scene

Took this a few months ago - dont think I ever showed you guys.
More my kind of thing than the pumpkin ale shot.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/2432085175_KQz68hd/Large


Btw - this is not coverted to bw or shot in bw -
which I can see more clearly now myself

ann



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Re: PESO - The Old Home Office - 1974

2013-05-16 Thread George Sinos
Thanks to those who looked or commented.  Sometimes, when I think
about how things were done, I wonder how we actually got anything
done.  Then again, things took longer but we weren't interrupted every
10 seconds by something beeping or ringing.  gs
George Sinos

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On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ah yes, I remember it well .. .. ..
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 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On May 14, 2013, at 10:09 , George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I ran across a few old slides that reminded me of how things were done
 before the Internet.  Man, there isn't much in these photos that
 hasn't been replaced.

 http://georgesinos.com/blog/2013/5/14/working-at-home-1974


 Fascinating.  I love it!

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RE: STREETSHOTS122081879 02.resized | Roman Melihhov Photography

2013-05-16 Thread Gerrit Visser
The shot would look better if the lady on left was out of focus.
Catching him with his head down as well as the lady on RH side makes for an 
interesting effect.

Gerrit

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http://roman.blakout.net/picture.php?/341/category/43
   ^^^ Hair is important (street shots)...


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OT: High Flyers, Beware!

2013-05-16 Thread Alan C

Thought this might make your day.

http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/Swazi-broomstick-flying-witches-to-fly-low-20130515


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Re: PESO - street scene

2013-05-16 Thread Alan C
I like the architectural style - much more pleasing to the eye that the 
modern stuff.
Pity you missed the moment when the model came to life  descended from the 
the wall panel!


Alan C

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Took this a few months ago - dont think I ever showed you guys.
More my kind of thing than the pumpkin ale shot.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/2432085175_KQz68hd/Large


Btw - this is not coverted to bw or shot in bw -
which I can see more clearly now myself

ann



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Re: PESO - Richmond Bridge

2013-05-16 Thread Alan C

The bridge is a real gem  well captured too.
Still waiting to see the bike.

Alan C

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Subject: PESO - Richmond Bridge

This is an old convict built bridge(1823) in a small village just outside 
Hobart.
A sunny autumn morning was a nice day for a motorcycle ride and good light 
for old sandstone bridge.



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Re: GESO: A long-overdue GFM update

2013-05-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Ann Sanfedele wrote:

My absolute fave is Break in Storm clouds -

AH, yes. I remember that miserable, wet hike well! That shot was taken
using a cheapo FA-J 18-35 borrowed from Bill Owens.

the album overall should get those last few slots filled this year :-)

wish I could fill one of them - maybe next year

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Re: PESO - Nightshot - American Pie II

2013-05-16 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bruce Walker

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:34 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

From: Eactivist


I did take some shots of the oil refinery last  night after it got darker.

I was just disappointed with what I felt was a  lack of sharpness. Or not
as sharp as I was hoping for.


Is this kind of image you're shooting for?

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=night%20industrial


We couldn't find anything matching your search

Would you like to try a search for lights, moon, cars, urban or car instead?


That's interesting. I get the search results when I test it?

I also get a disclaimer telling me my browser is too old  not supported
so I might not be able to view the images  that I should get a modern
browser like Firefox or Chrome. Yet I've never had any trouble just
viewing.

You can duplicate my query by going to flickr  typing night
industrial into the search box  select search everyone's uploads.

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Re: Wow. Just wow. And WOW again!

2013-05-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Rick Womer wrote:

My PDML annual arrived today, a week sooner than expected.

It is gorgeous.  The photos are lovely, and the arrangement is absolutely 
brilliant.

Exceedingly well done, everyone, and especially the editorial trio, and 
especially especially Mark!

Thanks, Rick. For some reason, the graphic design and layout of the
book was a real agonizing process this year, but came together well
when I finally got it worked out. One of the things that really
disappoints me about ebooks is the way they don't convey the
typography and page layout that constitute a well-designed page. So
it's good to know when the design gets noticed in the print version.
 
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Now I do reviews (Pentax MX-1 among them)

2013-05-16 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Hi,

A friend of mine started a blog around technology some time ago. He told me 
that some manufacturers/distributors lend him devices to test (specially 
smartphones) and I told him 'if they lend you a camera, you know where I am...'.
It was kind of a joke, but a couple of weeks later he was offering me a Samsung 
EX2F to test and write a review.

So, 2 months later, I have written 3 reviews and a short photo-show report. The 
last one and just published is the Pentax MX-1 review and I am currently 
testing a Sony RX100 (it seems that I have specialized in the 'premium compact' 
camera segment).

The review is in Spanish but there are plenty of pictures on it. Here you have 
the links in case you want to take a look:

http://www.teknofilo.com/samsung-ex2f-analisis-y-prueba/
http://www.teknofilo.com/canon-powershot-s110-analisis-prueba-a-fondo/
http://www.teknofilo.com/sonimag-foto-2013/
http://www.teknofilo.com/pentax-mx-1/

Regarding the MX-1, its retro design is not as well done as the Fuji's, the 
screen does not fit well for instance, but it is a pleasure to use (it is 
tiltable, a must for me). The results are quite good taking into account the 
sensor size but the price here (499 EUR) is a bit too high considering its 
feature set.
My conclusion is that despite its flaws, I had a great time using it. I cannot 
say the same about other competitors in the premium compact segment (specially 
the smallest ones)

Regards,
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Re: Now I do reviews (Pentax MX-1 among them)

2013-05-16 Thread P.J. Alling

price here (499 EUR) is a bit too high considering its feature set.

You've got to pay for that brass...

On 5/16/2013 10:04 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:

Hi,

A friend of mine started a blog around technology some time ago. He told me 
that some manufacturers/distributors lend him devices to test (specially 
smartphones) and I told him 'if they lend you a camera, you know where I am...'.
It was kind of a joke, but a couple of weeks later he was offering me a Samsung 
EX2F to test and write a review.

So, 2 months later, I have written 3 reviews and a short photo-show report. The 
last one and just published is the Pentax MX-1 review and I am currently 
testing a Sony RX100 (it seems that I have specialized in the 'premium compact' 
camera segment).

The review is in Spanish but there are plenty of pictures on it. Here you have 
the links in case you want to take a look:

http://www.teknofilo.com/samsung-ex2f-analisis-y-prueba/
http://www.teknofilo.com/canon-powershot-s110-analisis-prueba-a-fondo/
http://www.teknofilo.com/sonimag-foto-2013/
http://www.teknofilo.com/pentax-mx-1/

Regarding the MX-1, its retro design is not as well done as the Fuji's, the 
screen does not fit well for instance, but it is a pleasure to use (it is 
tiltable, a must for me). The results are quite good taking into account the 
sensor size but the price here (499 EUR) is a bit too high considering its 
feature set.
My conclusion is that despite its flaws, I had a great time using it. I cannot 
say the same about other competitors in the premium compact segment (specially 
the smallest ones)

Regards,
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Re: PESO - street scene

2013-05-16 Thread John Sessoms

All it takes is a little PhotoShop magic to turn her around.

From: P.J. Alling

It's too bad that you couldn't have caught the pedestrian coming into
the scene rather than leaving it, but other than that it's perfect.

On 5/15/2013 11:17 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Took this a few months ago - dont think I ever showed you guys.
More my kind of thing than the pumpkin ale shot.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/2432085175_KQz68hd/Large



Btw - this is not coverted to bw or shot in bw -
which I can see more clearly now myself

ann



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Re: Now I do reviews (Pentax MX-1 among them)

2013-05-16 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
- Mensaje original -

 De: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
  price here (499 EUR) is a bit too high considering its feature set.
 You've got to pay for that brass...
 

Actually, they should sell the camera showing wear already...the jeans 
manufacturers do this with great success...and profit I bet.


 On 5/16/2013 10:04 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
  Hi,
 
  A friend of mine started a blog around technology some time ago. He told me 
 that some manufacturers/distributors lend him devices to test (specially 
 smartphones) and I told him 'if they lend you a camera, you know where I 
 am...'.
  It was kind of a joke, but a couple of weeks later he was offering me a 
 Samsung EX2F to test and write a review.
 
  So, 2 months later, I have written 3 reviews and a short photo-show report. 
 The last one and just published is the Pentax MX-1 review and I am currently 
 testing a Sony RX100 (it seems that I have specialized in the 'premium 
 compact' camera segment).
 
  The review is in Spanish but there are plenty of pictures on it. Here you 
 have the links in case you want to take a look:
 
  http://www.teknofilo.com/samsung-ex2f-analisis-y-prueba/
  http://www.teknofilo.com/canon-powershot-s110-analisis-prueba-a-fondo/
  http://www.teknofilo.com/sonimag-foto-2013/
  http://www.teknofilo.com/pentax-mx-1/
 
  Regarding the MX-1, its retro design is not as well done as the Fuji's, 
 the screen does not fit well for instance, but it is a pleasure to use (it is 
 tiltable, a must for me). The results are quite good taking into account the 
 sensor size but the price here (499 EUR) is a bit too high considering its 
 feature set.
  My conclusion is that despite its flaws, I had a great time using it. I 
 cannot say the same about other competitors in the premium compact segment 
 (specially the smallest ones)
 
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Re: PESO - street scene

2013-05-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Took this a few months ago - dont think I ever showed you guys.
More my kind of thing than the pumpkin ale shot.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/2432085175_KQz68hd/Large

That shot is *perfect*. Don't listen to those other guys - don't
change a thing.

It's a very recognizable Annsan photo - I'd know that style anywhere
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Re: Pentax K-30 home-made cable release?

2013-05-16 Thread John Sessoms

Looks like finding it is going to be the problem. It's gone the way of
the Dodo. I can't even find a picture of one on Google's Image Search.

From: P.J. Alling

What you want if you can find one at a reasonable price is a Mamyia
Cable Release Adapter RC-204. It converts old style cable release
movement, (it has a tapered tapped release socket. on one side and four
gold plated sockets for very thin pin connectors on the other), into the
connections needed to activate and release the shutter of a camera with
electronic remote release. Then all you need is the camera side
connector and a length of three lead wire and a method of cobbling it
all together. I used solder and hot glue, in an old plastic automobile
fuse box. I was able to get a pair of the afor mentioned adapters on
eBay a few years ago for $10 for the pair and built a Pentax compatible
adapter from telephone cable and a micro audio plug. It worked just fine
until flexing the wire caused one of the leads to snap. I plan on
building a second one in one piece with no cable, but just haven't
gotten around to it yet. I had a web page up with an /almost/ step by
step description of the project but that went away with my old web site.

On 5/15/2013 3:20 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

Yep, that's what I'm trying to find. Nothing but dead links from that
page though.



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Re: Now I do reviews (Pentax MX-1 among them)

2013-05-16 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote:
 - Mensaje original -

 De: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
  price here (499 EUR) is a bit too high considering its feature set.
 You've got to pay for that brass...


 Actually, they should sell the camera showing wear already...the jeans
 manufacturers do this with great success...and profit I bet.

Yes! Distressed Compacts. PJ Signature Editions.

Someone's leaving money on the table here.

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Re: PESO - Nightshot - American Pie II

2013-05-16 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 9:07 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Bruce Walker

 On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:34 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
 wrote:

 From: Eactivist

 I did take some shots of the oil refinery last  night after it got
 darker.

 I was just disappointed with what I felt was a  lack of sharpness. Or
 not
 as sharp as I was hoping for.


 Is this kind of image you're shooting for?

 http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=night%20industrial


 We couldn't find anything matching your search

 Would you like to try a search for lights, moon, cars, urban or car
 instead?


 That's interesting. I get the search results when I test it?

 I also get a disclaimer telling me my browser is too old  not supported
 so I might not be able to view the images  that I should get a modern
 browser like Firefox or Chrome. Yet I've never had any trouble just
 viewing.

 You can duplicate my query by going to flickr  typing night
 industrial into the search box  select search everyone's uploads.

Yes, that worked fine just now.

I swear I tried that yesterday too, with the same empty result. Maybe
I'd managed to select some additional search filters. Oh well. :)

Sure are some intriguing shots in there.

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Re: PESO Kanzan Dusk 2

2013-05-16 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 15 May 2013 05:42, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here's my own recent dusk photography result, from our backyard Kanzan
 Cherry standard, giving one of its best shows this year:

 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8722338154/lightbox/

 I lit this with an AF540FGZ inside a 36 umbrella softbox on a 9-foot
 stand that I extended up into the tree. I stood on a ladder and
 composed until I got the clouds in behind. I also added a green gel to
 the flash and colour-corrected that in Lightroom which caused the sky
 and clouds to go pinker to better match the flowers.

 K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ 6.3, 1/160th, ISO 100; Lightroom, Photoshop.

 Hi Bruce,

 That's a pretty impressive shot, the colour combination between the
 bloom and the sky is just about perfect, I live the composition too.
 If I could apply the minimal of constructive criticism I would say
 that the only element of it that distracts me in any way is the
 apparent brightness of the underside of the leaves. There was
 obviously little option but I wonder if the shot would benefit from
 them being dodged a little?

Thank you, Rob. I agree with your observation on the leaf underside. I
think it would emphasize the bloom more to reduce the leaf brightness
1/2 a stop or so. Appreciate your keen eye!

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Re: PESO - street scene

2013-05-16 Thread Ann Sanfedele

thanks Mark and...
all of you ...
 you - picked up my spirits this morning... (don't even ask why that 
was necessary )


( Mark, no worries  - I never listen to P.J.:-) he doesn't listen to me 
either)


also - I'm down to only two times a day for eyedrops now - yayayayay!
even I can remember twice a day

ann

On 5/16/2013 10:29, Mark Roberts wrote:

Ann Sanfedele wrote:


Took this a few months ago - dont think I ever showed you guys.
More my kind of thing than the pumpkin ale shot.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/2432085175_KQz68hd/Large


That shot is *perfect*. Don't listen to those other guys - don't
change a thing.

It's a very recognizable Annsan photo - I'd know that style anywhere
:)




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Re: GESO: A long-overdue GFM update

2013-05-16 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 5/16/2013 08:57, Mark Roberts wrote:

Ann Sanfedele wrote:


My absolute fave is Break in Storm clouds -


AH, yes. I remember that miserable, wet hike well! That shot was taken
using a cheapo FA-J 18-35 borrowed from Bill Owens.


Just to show the media ain't the message



the album overall should get those last few slots filled this year :-)

wish I could fill one of them - maybe next year


Next year's the 10th anniversary of the big 2004 international PDML
meet at the mountain. Make it happen.


Would be great if we could get _that_ crew back together - and a few more.

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Re: PESO - Nightshot - American Pie II

2013-05-16 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bruce Walker

On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 9:07 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

From: Bruce Walker


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:34 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
wrote:


From: Eactivist


I did take some shots of the oil refinery last  night after it got
darker.

I was just disappointed with what I felt was a  lack of sharpness. Or
not
as sharp as I was hoping for.



Is this kind of image you're shooting for?

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=night%20industrial



We couldn't find anything matching your search

Would you like to try a search for lights, moon, cars, urban or car
instead?



That's interesting. I get the search results when I test it?

I also get a disclaimer telling me my browser is too old  not supported
so I might not be able to view the images  that I should get a modern
browser like Firefox or Chrome. Yet I've never had any trouble just
viewing.

You can duplicate my query by going to flickr  typing night
industrial into the search box  select search everyone's uploads.


Yes, that worked fine just now.

I swear I tried that yesterday too, with the same empty result. Maybe
I'd managed to select some additional search filters. Oh well. :)

Sure are some intriguing shots in there.


Back in film days there was a photography magazine I think was called 
Petersen's Photographic. It's not the one you can find nowadays. It was 
a monthly magazine that went out of business. I thought that happened in 
the early 90s, but it looks like it was later. I remember when I got the 
final issue there was a notice telling me the rest of my subscription 
would be filled with issues of Shutterbug.


On the very last page of every issue was a feature about How I took 
that photo that had a different photographer display a photo  write an 
article about how they created it. Most of them were studio setups with 
diagrams of where to put the lights  how many watt-seconds you had to 
use ... lots of commercial stuff like how to make the glass clear with 
black edges against a white background or how to make the glass clear 
with white edges against a black background. Stuff I had to do in my 
lighting classes later when I went to photography school.


One I still remember though was a night-time refinery shot like that ... 
done in camera on slide film. I can't quite remember the technique, but 
I know it involved locking the camera down on a tripod, waiting for 
hours before double exposing the film.


I'm pretty sure the first exposure was a basic Sunny16 (One over ISO @ 
f/16) taken half an hour to three quarters of an hour after sunset to 
get that deep, deep blue sky. Several hours later you took a long 
exposure for the lights.


That's the part I can't remember, how to calculate how long that second 
exposure needs to be to get the lights right. The article gave a fairly 
simple formula like the second exposure is 100x the first exposure.


I do know that 100x is not the right number, because I wasted a whole 
bunch of 4x5 Ektachrome on a couple of different occasions trying to 
figure it out.


I know I saved that issue, but I've never been able to find it again. 
It's got to be in this house somewhere.


It was a hell of a photo, because that issue must have been 30 years or 
more ago and impression it made stayed with me all this time.


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Re: GESO: A long-overdue GFM update

2013-05-16 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Ann Sanfedele wrote:

My absolute fave is Break in Storm clouds -

 AH, yes. I remember that miserable, wet hike well! That shot was taken
 using a cheapo FA-J 18-35 borrowed from Bill Owens.

the album overall should get those last few slots filled this year :-)

wish I could fill one of them - maybe next year

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PESO 2013 - 044 - GDG

2013-05-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Another photo from Worldwide Pinhole Photography Day 2013, celebrating 
bicyclists ...

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8742233679/lightbox

enjoy!

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Re: PESO - Nightshot - American Pie II

2013-05-16 Thread Eactivist
Yes, that's more like it. Don't have HD software  though, and at this time 
not dropping the moola on it.

M aka D  My  built in AOL browser has decided it can no longer handle 
flickr, so have to dump  urls into Firefox.

In a message dated 5/15/2013 11:34:57 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
jsessoms...@nc.rr.com writes:
Is this kind of image you're  shooting  for?

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=night%20industrial

If I'm  wrong, just ignore me.

You could sandwich the two images using the  foreground from the first
against the sky from the second. I think that might  get you closer to
what it appears to me you're trying to accomplish.  


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Re: GESO: A long-overdue GFM update

2013-05-16 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Ann Sanfedele wrote:

My absolute fave is Break in Storm clouds -

 AH, yes. I remember that miserable, wet hike well! That shot was taken
 using a cheapo FA-J 18-35 borrowed from Bill Owens.

the album overall should get those last few slots filled this year :-)

wish I could fill one of them - maybe next year

 Next year's the 10th anniversary of the big 2004 international PDML
 meet at the mountain. Make it happen.

Good to know.

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Re: PESO - Nightshot - American Pie II

2013-05-16 Thread Bruce Walker
What have you got software-wise, Marnie? You don't need much to create
a double-exposure -- Photoshop Elements for instance. I haven't tried
it but Gimp (freeware) can probably do this.

If you have two precisely registered images, ie from a tripod at two
times (dusk and fully dark), you just need to pull them into two
layers and set a blend mode (like Multiply) on the top one.


On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 2:15 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Yes, that's more like it. Don't have HD software  though, and at this time
 not dropping the moola on it.

 M aka D  My  built in AOL browser has decided it can no longer handle
 flickr, so have to dump  urls into Firefox.

 In a message dated 5/15/2013 11:34:57 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time,
 jsessoms...@nc.rr.com writes:
 Is this kind of image you're  shooting  for?

 http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=night%20industrial

 If I'm  wrong, just ignore me.

 You could sandwich the two images using the  foreground from the first
 against the sky from the second. I think that might  get you closer to
 what it appears to me you're trying to accomplish.


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Re:Re: Geso People flowers building with the 50 mm

2013-05-16 Thread Don Guthrie
Thanks Bruce,I probably should give it a title sometime. When the 
exposure and manual focus comes together that combo produces some sharp 
colorful pix.


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Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 18:37:04 -0400
From: Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Geso People flowers  building with the 50 mm
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P4242965 is a real good one, Don.

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Don Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com  wrote:

Just a quick gallery of shots taken with the Pentax 50 mm f2 adapted to an
Olympus pen.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/8739491400/in/set-72157633496299218/




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Re: PESO - street scene

2013-05-16 Thread kwaller
It's too bad that you couldn't have caught the pedestrian coming into the 
scene rather than leaving it, but other than that it's perfect.


I think you'd be correct if the scene was about the person, but to me the 
scene is about the interesting street side facade.


I might try to straighten the tilt along the curb if it doesn't result in 
too obvious a tilt to the horizontal lines on the building


In any event I like it as is.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: PESO - street scene


It's too bad that you couldn't have caught the pedestrian coming into the 
scene rather than leaving it, but other than that it's perfect.


On 5/15/2013 11:17 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Took this a few months ago - dont think I ever showed you guys.
More my kind of thing than the pumpkin ale shot.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/2432085175_KQz68hd/Large


Btw - this is not coverted to bw or shot in bw -
which I can see more clearly now myself

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Re: PESO - street scene

2013-05-16 Thread Don Guthrie
Yes I spotted that one while moseying around the ale shot. I did not 
mention it because I thought it was so good maybe you were not posting 
here for some reason. So now I can say its one of my favorites. Calender 
material?


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 23:17:51 -0400
From: Ann Sanfedeleann...@nyc.rr.com
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Took this a few months ago - dont think I ever showed you guys.
More my kind of thing than the pumpkin ale shot.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/2432085175_KQz68hd/Large


Btw - this is not coverted to bw or shot in bw -
which I can see more clearly now myself

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Re: PESO - Nightshot - American Pie II

2013-05-16 Thread kwaller
I know you're shooting Canon Marnie, but even my 'old' K20D can take multple 
exposures in-camera, up to 9 IIRC.


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- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: PESO - Nightshot - American Pie II



What have you got software-wise, Marnie? You don't need much to create
a double-exposure -- Photoshop Elements for instance. I haven't tried
it but Gimp (freeware) can probably do this.

If you have two precisely registered images, ie from a tripod at two
times (dusk and fully dark), you just need to pull them into two
layers and set a blend mode (like Multiply) on the top one.


On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 2:15 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
Yes, that's more like it. Don't have HD software  though, and at this 
time

not dropping the moola on it.

M aka D  My  built in AOL browser has decided it can no longer handle
flickr, so have to dump  urls into Firefox.

In a message dated 5/15/2013 11:34:57 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time,
jsessoms...@nc.rr.com writes:
Is this kind of image you're  shooting  for?

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=night%20industrial

If I'm  wrong, just ignore me.

You could sandwich the two images using the  foreground from the first
against the sky from the second. I think that might  get you closer to
what it appears to me you're trying to accomplish.



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Re: PESO 2013 - 044 - GDG

2013-05-16 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 16, 2013, at 12:58 , Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote:

 Another photo from Worldwide Pinhole Photography Day 2013, celebrating 
 bicyclists ...
 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8742233679/lightbox
 

Nice one!

I forgot all about Pinhole Day.  Was going to try it this year.  Ah well.

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Re: PESO 2013 - 044 - GDG

2013-05-16 Thread Bruce Walker
Pointillist pinhole pulchritude. Enjoyed!

On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi
godfreydigio...@me.com wrote:
 Another photo from Worldwide Pinhole Photography Day 2013, celebrating 
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   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8742233679/lightbox

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Re: Anybody in Chile? Any recommendations?

2013-05-16 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 15/5/13, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

I remember a post last year (2012?) from a list member that he  his
girlfriend were driving to Chile in a VW Microbus. But maybe it was an
adios for now - I'll be off list because ... kind of post  he didn't
see it.

Juan Buhler?

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PESO - Dee

2013-05-16 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Dee (real name David) is a Dutch messenger who spent about a year working in 
Toronto. Fast as all get-out, he is also an ultra-racer (24 hour races and 
stuff like that).

He and his Canadian girlfriend left Toronto back in November before the real 
cold to cycle down south. Like far south. As in they wintered in Mexico and are 
now in Venezuela.

They are living on less than a dollar a day, tenting, eating wild fruits and 
vegetables and fishing.

Here's a photo I took of him about a year ago:

 http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/04/dee.html?m=1

Maybe not quite as interesting as his story, but hopefully you like it. 
Comments always welcome.

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RE: PESO - street scene

2013-05-16 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Love it, Ann!

So glad your back on the list.

:-)

cheers,
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From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
Sent: May 15, 2013 5/15/13
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - street scene

Took this a few months ago - dont think I ever showed you guys.
More my kind of thing than the pumpkin ale shot.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/2432085175_KQz68hd/Large


Btw - this is not coverted to bw or shot in bw -
which I can see more clearly now myself

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GESO - St. Bridget's Church Windows

2013-05-16 Thread George Sinos
It's been a while, but I finally have the latest pass at the St.
Bridget's windows complete.There is still some minor color correction
and a couple need additional perspective correction before I'm
satisfied enough to put them in book form.  But the gallery has been
updated with all of the windows and descriptions.

I also want to re-do the side altar shots.  The color is not what I'm after.

http://www.georgesphotos.net/Other/St-Bridget-candidates/23736841_V2KGQt

Most of you have seen a couple of the windows the church interior
shots before, but the full set of windows in finally complete enough
to post here.

The most time consuming part was correcting the perspective so that
the windows looked like they were photographed straight on and square.
 Because of obstructions and the height of the windows they were
photographed from below and some quite far to the left or right of the
window.  None of the original photos are square.

My first attempt was to use the perspective crop tool in PS.  That
worked for a few, but after I lived with the results for a while I
wasn't really happy.  Too bad, that was a pretty quick correction.

I finally used the Adaptive wide angle filter in PS.  That's worked
best so far.  I'll also give the new tool in Lightroom a try, but I
doubt that it will work as well as AWA.

I'm not totally happy with all of the corrections yet, especially a
couple of the semi-circular Apse windows.

Anyway, this is what they look like so far.

gs

George Sinos

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RE: PESO: LeeAnn W. photo shoot

2013-05-16 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
That's a fine set. She seems really comfortable and is obviously having fun. 
I'd say that's likely a compliment to your skills as a photographer since she's 
not a model.

I can't imagine but that she'll be pleased with these.

Great work!

cheers,
frank

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From: Walt ldott...@gmail.com
Sent: May 15, 2013 5/15/13
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: LeeAnn W. photo shoot

I finally managed to get the young lady I've been pestering for a photo 
shoot to get out and take photos yesterday. Here's one of my favorite shots:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8741925218/

Here's the rest of the gallery should anyone take a notion to have a 
look. For some reason, Flickriver isn't showing any photos in the set, 
so it's a standard Flickr set.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/

-- Walt

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Re: Peso - Cotty, the model

2013-05-16 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 14/5/13, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:

couldn't resist this - I had taken a walk downdown to the south street 
seaport, which is still pretty much not in operation.

Not exactly the first peso after surgery I imagined I'd show but...

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/
21847075_D88Ngw/1/2513188487_WgLJDBp/Large

I never push against a locked door ;-)

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Re: PESO - Richmond Bridge

2013-05-16 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 15/5/13, Philip Northeast, discombobulated, unleashed:

This is an old convict built bridge(1823) in a small village just 
outside Hobart.
A sunny autumn morning was a nice day for a motorcycle ride and good 
light for old sandstone bridge.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/8740668406/in/photostream

The framing does nothing for me but the colour damn near knocked me off
my chair. Wow.

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RE: Boris PESO #25 - Fisherman

2013-05-16 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I like the composition and love the shimmer off the water.

Two problems for me:

First of all he doesn't look like a fisherman. Whatever that contraption is 
he's holding it doesn't look fishy to me. He looks like a warehouse guy 
standing near the water. 

Second, he's caught in some sort of silhouette netherworld. Barely any detail 
in his face but enough that I want to strain to see his features. That's a 
distraction to me.

I'd prefer either enough light to provide good details or a more completely 
darkened silhouette.

So there you go, brutal and honest.

;-)

cheers,
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From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
Sent: May 15, 2013 5/15/13
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Boris PESO #25 - Fisherman

Hi!

Please have a look and give me your bh opinion...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/05/2013-25-fisherman.html

Thanks!

Boris

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Re: PESO: LeeAnn W. photo shoot

2013-05-16 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 15/5/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed:

I finally managed to get the young lady I've been pestering for a photo 
shoot to get out and take photos yesterday. Here's one of my favorite shots:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8741925218/

Here's the rest of the gallery should anyone take a notion to have a 
look. For some reason, Flickriver isn't showing any photos in the set, 
so it's a standard Flickr set.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/

Standouts for me Walt:

1561
1686
1740
1761
1813
1893
1902

Bin everything else. These are fantastic.

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Re:PESO - Fire on the Water

2013-05-16 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
The sun ain't gonna get much closer to the city, I don't think. In another 
month we hit the solstice and then it starts heading south. By winter it's way 
over the lake.

Thanks for the nice compliment! And thanks to everyone else who looked and 
commented. 

Much appreciated.

Cheers,
frank


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From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com
Sent: May 15, 2013 5/15/13
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re:PESO - Fire on the Water

Not much wrong with this one either, Frank. Revisit until the sun 
appears behind the city. You've got a project there with a great skyline 
to work with.

pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
 Message: 11
 Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 21:57:58 + (UTC)
 From:knarftheria...@gmail.com  knarftheria...@gmail.com
 To:PDML@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO - Fire on the Water
 Message-ID:
   
 1008834489.77914.1368568687791.javamail.se...@ap8.p2.fra.samsungsocialhub.net
   
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 Last of the sunrise photos from last week. I like the colours in this one 
 best. Also like the sun's reflection on the water:

   http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/05/fire-on-water.html?m=1

 But I did like the bird in the last one. Oh well...

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
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Re: Peso - Cotty, the model

2013-05-16 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 I would love to have lunch with you on the premises!

 Paul

I'd love to have lunch anywhere.

Dave


 On May 15, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 Marvelous image, really carries the flavor of that locale.

 Glad to see you are up and about.

 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 couldn't resist this - I had taken a walk downdown to the south street
 seaport, which is still pretty much not in operation.

 Not exactly the first peso after surgery I imagined I'd show but...

 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/2513188487_WgLJDBp/Large

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Peso Jay 2

2013-05-16 Thread David J Brooks
Another from Saturday, same jay as jay 1 but with lunch

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17326512

K-5 DFA 50-200 slight crop in LR4

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Re: PESO - Dee

2013-05-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nice story, Frank, and I like the portrait as well.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 6:38 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dee (real name David) is a Dutch messenger who spent about a year working in 
 Toronto. Fast as all get-out, he is also an ultra-racer (24 hour races and 
 stuff like that).

 He and his Canadian girlfriend left Toronto back in November before the real 
 cold to cycle down south. Like far south. As in they wintered in Mexico and 
 are now in Venezuela.

 They are living on less than a dollar a day, tenting, eating wild fruits and 
 vegetables and fishing.

 Here's a photo I took of him about a year ago:

  http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/04/dee.html?m=1

 Maybe not quite as interesting as his story, but hopefully you like it. 
 Comments always welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank

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PDML Photo Annual and associated goings-on

2013-05-16 Thread Mark Roberts
So far the 2013 Annual has brought in about $150.00 from ebook sales
and $275.00 from print book sales. And the hardcover edition is
currently #6 on the Blurb best-seller's list 
http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/popular
:) 

This all means we (well, *I*, since I fronted the donation money) are
pretty close to breaking even. Another $175.00 ought to do it (I
haven't done the math yet but it looks as if I may have to break out
the calculator soon. That can only be good news!)

I've been invited to attend a Dana-Farber program next Wednesday
(Global Twinning Programs: Curing Pediatric Cancer in the Developing
World?) and I'll get to meet some of the people involved in the whole
thing. Also, the Global Health Initiative now has its own dedicated
Development specialist (PR representative) who's taken a real
interest in the PDML Annual. We'll see what develops...
 
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Re: PDML Photo Annual and associated goings-on

2013-05-16 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 5/16/2013 21:28, Mark Roberts wrote:

So far the 2013 Annual has brought in about $150.00 from ebook sales
and $275.00 from print book sales. And the hardcover edition is
currently #6 on the Blurb best-seller's list
http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/popular
:)

This all means we (well, *I*, since I fronted the donation money) are
pretty close to breaking even. Another $175.00 ought to do it (I
haven't done the math yet but it looks as if I may have to break out
the calculator soon. That can only be good news!)

I've been invited to attend a Dana-Farber program next Wednesday
(Global Twinning Programs: Curing Pediatric Cancer in the Developing
World?) and I'll get to meet some of the people involved in the whole
thing. Also, the Global Health Initiative now has its own dedicated
Development specialist (PR representative) who's taken a real
interest in the PDML Annual.


We'll see what develops...

^^ good news and pun fun
what's not to like!

ann


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Re: GESO - St. Bridget's Church Windows

2013-05-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 May 2013 08:45, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's been a while, but I finally have the latest pass at the St.
 Bridget's windows complete.There is still some minor color correction
 and a couple need additional perspective correction before I'm
 satisfied enough to put them in book form.  But the gallery has been
 updated with all of the windows and descriptions.

 I also want to re-do the side altar shots.  The color is not what I'm after.

 http://www.georgesphotos.net/Other/St-Bridget-candidates/23736841_V2KGQt

 Most of you have seen a couple of the windows the church interior
 shots before, but the full set of windows in finally complete enough
 to post here.

 The most time consuming part was correcting the perspective so that
 the windows looked like they were photographed straight on and square.
  Because of obstructions and the height of the windows they were
 photographed from below and some quite far to the left or right of the
 window.  None of the original photos are square.

 My first attempt was to use the perspective crop tool in PS.  That
 worked for a few, but after I lived with the results for a while I
 wasn't really happy.  Too bad, that was a pretty quick correction.

 I finally used the Adaptive wide angle filter in PS.  That's worked
 best so far.  I'll also give the new tool in Lightroom a try, but I
 doubt that it will work as well as AWA.

 I'm not totally happy with all of the corrections yet, especially a
 couple of the semi-circular Apse windows.

 Anyway, this is what they look like so far.

Wow George, you've nailed those shots! That third last shot (St
Bridgets church, Shrine of the Crucifixion, choir loft, confessional)
has a really nasty lighting mix, maybe you could covert the shot once
for the inside and again for the exterior lit panels then recombine
them in PS to provide a better overall colour balance?

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Re: GESO - St. Bridget's Church Windows

2013-05-16 Thread Alan C
I think you're over critical, George. Those (test?) shots could grace the 
pages of any publication. It really is a beautiful church.


Alan C

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Subject: GESO - St. Bridget's Church Windows


It's been a while, but I finally have the latest pass at the St.
Bridget's windows complete.There is still some minor color correction
and a couple need additional perspective correction before I'm
satisfied enough to put them in book form.  But the gallery has been
updated with all of the windows and descriptions.

I also want to re-do the side altar shots.  The color is not what I'm 
after.


http://www.georgesphotos.net/Other/St-Bridget-candidates/23736841_V2KGQt

Most of you have seen a couple of the windows the church interior
shots before, but the full set of windows in finally complete enough
to post here.

The most time consuming part was correcting the perspective so that
the windows looked like they were photographed straight on and square.
Because of obstructions and the height of the windows they were
photographed from below and some quite far to the left or right of the
window.  None of the original photos are square.

My first attempt was to use the perspective crop tool in PS.  That
worked for a few, but after I lived with the results for a while I
wasn't really happy.  Too bad, that was a pretty quick correction.

I finally used the Adaptive wide angle filter in PS.  That's worked
best so far.  I'll also give the new tool in Lightroom a try, but I
doubt that it will work as well as AWA.

I'm not totally happy with all of the corrections yet, especially a
couple of the semi-circular Apse windows.

Anyway, this is what they look like so far.

gs

George Sinos

www.GeorgesPhotos.net
www.GeorgeSinos.com

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