GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG
My photo workshop group gathered for our annual summer party last Sunday. I carried the Polaroid SX-70 and two packs of Impossible Project film to see what I could get with it. There's something just beautiful to my eye about the photos this camera makes, despite all the defects and weirdnesses of the camera. This set include fourteen of the exposures ... The other two weren't worth posting due to problems. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157635478987878/ Thanks for looking! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Trinket Dog
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:10 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Attila, I can only see the preview; nothing happens when I double-click on it. Just click it once, and you will see keyboard shortcuts at the bottom (M is for maximize). Original size is 1024x880. Based only on that... Some color or tonal separation between the ears and background would be helpful. Also, you can use a much higher ISO on the K10D (especially in RAW) without the image getting too noisy.'' Thank you. I could have used higher ISO, but I wanted to protect the highlights and totally missed the color separation problem. Good to have you here! Please introduce yourself (or did I miss it?)! Some years ago, then I went off list. I'm a programmer from Oradea, Romania. Started taking pictures with an Exakta point shoot then picked up the Pentax MZ-6. Currently I have the K10D and K7. I have no training in photography and I'm doing it just for fun. I like to read books and experiment. -- Attila -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Most expensive used lens Ive ever seen
Depends on the bird. Obviously cormorant plumage is the most expensive and the heaviest, pound for pound, in the world because of its very high beauty content. It is also remarkable that if you drop a cormorant off the Tower of Pisa in a vacuum, it follows a rapid perpendicular arc towards the centre of the earth. Bobileo Bobilei On 11 Sep 2013, at 02:08, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: Which weighs more a pound of gold or a pound of feathers? On 9/10/2013 7:35 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 01:48:42PM -0400, John wrote: So much more affordable when you think of it as costing $430.43 per ounce. The web says that gold is now worth $1,365/oz, so it's not even worth it's weight in gold. unless you're talking 10KT gold, which seems to be about that. http://www.cashforgoldlosangeles.com/live-prices-we-pay-for-gold.aspx On 9/9/2013 9:56 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote: it weighs 11.5 pounds. Photography's greatest handicap is the ease with which the medium as such can be learned. As a result, too many budding neophytes learn to speak the language too long before they have anything to say. - Will Connell On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 6:41 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: ebay item 231050936281 -- J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Which way?
Must be Garmin's handiwork, if my GPS is anything to go by (which it isn't, since those are the kind of directions it gives). B On 11 Sep 2013, at 02:09, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: On my way to work earlier this week: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17524170size=lg or, ad-threat free, http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17524170-lg.jpg (K-5, FA 28/2.8) Comments appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Which way?
Looks like crop here marks for street maintenance:) On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Must be Garmin's handiwork, if my GPS is anything to go by (which it isn't, since those are the kind of directions it gives). B On 11 Sep 2013, at 02:09, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: On my way to work earlier this week: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17524170size=lg or, ad-threat free, http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17524170-lg.jpg (K-5, FA 28/2.8) Comments appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Most expensive used lens Ive ever seen
a pound of feathers, gold only has twelve troy oz per pound. On 9/10/2013 9:08 PM, John wrote: Which weighs more a pound of gold or a pound of feathers? On 9/10/2013 7:35 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 01:48:42PM -0400, John wrote: So much more affordable when you think of it as costing $430.43 per ounce. The web says that gold is now worth $1,365/oz, so it's not even worth it's weight in gold. unless you're talking 10KT gold, which seems to be about that. http://www.cashforgoldlosangeles.com/live-prices-we-pay-for-gold.aspx On 9/9/2013 9:56 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote: it weighs 11.5 pounds. Photography's greatest handicap is the ease with which the medium as such can be learned. As a result, too many budding neophytes learn to speak the language too long before they have anything to say. - Will Connell On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 6:41 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: ebay item 231050936281 -- J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- -- J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
I will say that a while back the one brand that had my attention was Sony. Pentax made a huge leap when they adopted Sony Exmor sensors, and Sony gives itself an edge in the sensor department. They also had fairly reasonably priced full frame options and the internal shake reduction that I appreciate in the Pentax DSLRs. I also like that they will accept Minolta Maxxum mount lenses, which gives a budget option there. I just didn't care for their Pellicle Mirror designs (which they apparently have now abandoned). Too much of a cost in light loss, in my opinion. But if you asked me the brand that appears most likely to be my 2nd choice, should it ever come to that, I would say Sony. Their NEX cameras are pretty clearly the best mirrorless option out there, IQ-wise, but I'm not a big fan of composing on the LCD and have yet to actually try an electronic viewfinder. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 10, 2013, Darren Addy wrote: Like the OP, I want a real viewfinder and I probably don't want a smaller sensor (mostly because I like wide and the smaller the sensor the harder it is to go wide with the focal length crop factor.) One issue for me is that I really do like a tilting screen for macro photography, I find it helps a lot. If LENSES are important, but you don't want HEAVY (two of the original poster's prerequisites) then I don't think you can do better than Pentax. They have nice light zooms and small light primes (Limiteds). The K-5 body is not overly large or heavy. Honestly, if the K-5 body is too heavy for you then I would hold off buying a camera and doing a little weight training. The K-5 body is 670 grams (with battery). You only save 34 grams by going to the entry level K-500. By contrast, the original Spotmatic in 1960 weighed 621 grams. As was mentioned, you can get a K-5 body for under your $600 figure, probably with a kit lens even. Still, if you're assembling a travel kit, shaving 20-30% in total bulk/weight can be significant. And aside from the Bigma, there aren't any current long zooms (compared with two 300mm -- 600mm/e -- in m4/3). This isn't an argument against Pentax, mind, I'm still flipping back and forth in my own mind whether the better lens variety and sensor quality with Pentax is more worthwhile. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Which way?
Close. In Pennsylvania anyone wanting to dig has to call 811, an agency that maintains maps of all below-ground utilities. When digging is contemplated they come out and mark the streets and sidewalks with a different color for each utility. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:28 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Which way? Looks like crop here marks for street maintenance:) On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Must be Garmin's handiwork, if my GPS is anything to go by (which it isn't, since those are the kind of directions it gives). B On 11 Sep 2013, at 02:09, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: On my way to work earlier this week: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17524170size=lg or, ad-threat free, http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17524170-lg.jpg (K-5, FA 28/2.8) Comments appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Which way?
Or Apple Maps. http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:19 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Which way? Must be Garmin's handiwork, if my GPS is anything to go by (which it isn't, since those are the kind of directions it gives). B On 11 Sep 2013, at 02:09, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: On my way to work earlier this week: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17524170size=lg or, ad-threat free, http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17524170-lg.jpg (K-5, FA 28/2.8) Comments appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: ... I'm not a big fan of composing on the LCD and have yet to actually try an electronic viewfinder. You may be very pleasantly surprised on both counts here. I don't easily recall when I last used my K-5 and I totally don't miss optical viewfinder thereof... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The fun. It just keeps on happening for me too.
Bummer... Sent from my iPad On Sep 10, 2013, at 11:30 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: Was running to catch a bus. My tripod swung around and got caught in between my legs. Down I went tumbling with the camera slamming into the asphalt. I had my A35-105/3.5 mounted. Its now bent beyond usability. Majorly bummed. The body on the camera is surprisingly unharmed. I am now with no good lenses outside of my not great, but passable 70-200. My,backup hard drive failed too the a couple of weeks ago. so unfortunately that's what needs to get replaced next. I know someone mentioned they were selling a 35-105. I'm pretty sure that is gone, but if its not let me know. I really want to replace that lens. It was superb in everything from portraits to landscapes. :( -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The fun. It just keeps on happening for me too.
Sh*t happens. Its just a lens.A somewhat inexpensive one at that. I had grown rather attached to that one thoughseeing if I can score one on ebay or keh right now. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: Bummer... Sent from my iPad On Sep 10, 2013, at 11:30 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: Was running to catch a bus. My tripod swung around and got caught in between my legs. Down I went tumbling with the camera slamming into the asphalt. I had my A35-105/3.5 mounted. Its now bent beyond usability. Majorly bummed. The body on the camera is surprisingly unharmed. I am now with no good lenses outside of my not great, but passable 70-200. My,backup hard drive failed too the a couple of weeks ago. so unfortunately that's what needs to get replaced next. I know someone mentioned they were selling a 35-105. I'm pretty sure that is gone, but if its not let me know. I really want to replace that lens. It was superb in everything from portraits to landscapes. :( -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
It's almost that time
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Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: ... I'm not a big fan of composing on the LCD and have yet to actually try an electronic viewfinder. Well, silly Darren, one composes with an LCD or electronic viewfinder exactly the same way one does with an optical viewfinder. :))) I agree. I prefer a viewfinder. I think the EVF in the NEX-6/7 are great. In normal and bright light they almost provide a better view than an optical viewfinder. In low light they tend to get a little noisy, but I figure that's akin to not being able to see as much in an optical viewfinder as light levels drop. One of the benefits is that after image acquisition, it is instantly displayed in the EVF, meaning I needn't look away to preview the image on the LCD. If I need to adjust composition or retake for any other reason, the cycle is much quicker than with a normal optical viewfinder. As Boris suggests, you may be pleasantly surprised. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Big Chile
Dave, Most everybody in the northern US are growing peppers as annuals. And growing chili peppers specifically because the supermarkets don't 'HOT'. We have a local mexican market that may, but as a rule the big chains don't. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:28 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 11, 2013, at 1:21 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all, Another one from Santa Fe. These big bunches of chile* are common on the fronts of many houses in the south-west. I couldn't figure out if they were just decorative or whether there was some superstition of spiritual purpose. Does anyone know? http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP2141-K5-1peso.html Love it. I've been growing chilli plants for the past few years even though our climate is a bit borderline (the plants die over winter). A few years back I made some different varieties of hot sauce based on a tomato relish recipe: jalapeño, mulato, serrano, fogo and thai super. I still have quite a few jars of it on the shelf... I should ask the wife to make corned beef this weekend. Also have a couple of bags of fresh ones in the freezer from last years crop. The reason I grow my own is because the supermarkets are useless. I just noticed today that my latest set of jalapeño seeds have started to sprout. I was starting to worry about them. Now I'm worried that if they all come up I'll be swimming in chilli plants. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
Years ago somebody bought a digital PS with a digital viewfinder. I was instantly turned off by the lines on the screen. Tell me it's better now??? Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: ... I'm not a big fan of composing on the LCD and have yet to actually try an electronic viewfinder. Well, silly Darren, one composes with an LCD or electronic viewfinder exactly the same way one does with an optical viewfinder. :))) I agree. I prefer a viewfinder. I think the EVF in the NEX-6/7 are great. In normal and bright light they almost provide a better view than an optical viewfinder. In low light they tend to get a little noisy, but I figure that's akin to not being able to see as much in an optical viewfinder as light levels drop. One of the benefits is that after image acquisition, it is instantly displayed in the EVF, meaning I needn't look away to preview the image on the LCD. If I need to adjust composition or retake for any other reason, the cycle is much quicker than with a normal optical viewfinder. As Boris suggests, you may be pleasantly surprised. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Battery Point Restaurant
Nice. Can you say 'Nighthawks'. You should get a bigger display image. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Philip Northeast rnort...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Pentax K5 DA 21mm Limited - ISO 3200 - f3.2 and 1/20sec (hand held) http://abouttas.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Battery-Point-restaurant.jpg -- Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG
Yes, they do have a unique look about them. I can't tell how much is the camera/film and how much is your POV. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:51 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: My photo workshop group gathered for our annual summer party last Sunday. I carried the Polaroid SX-70 and two packs of Impossible Project film to see what I could get with it. There's something just beautiful to my eye about the photos this camera makes, despite all the defects and weirdnesses of the camera. This set include fourteen of the exposures ... The other two weren't worth posting due to problems. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157635478987878/ Thanks for looking! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shot from CT beach
Still a bad link... On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:45 PM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: The manipulated shot works much better, IMHO. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of CollinB Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013 9:29 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Shot from CT beach One is as-shot. The other I darkened the island and a boat on the horizon, added some blue saturation to the water, lightened the sand a little, and the avid reader a lot. http://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/sets/72157635460224539/ K5, 70/2.4. I'm wondering what you think of it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
Far better, Bob. Far better. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Years ago somebody bought a digital PS with a digital viewfinder. I was instantly turned off by the lines on the screen. Tell me it's better now??? Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
Years ago somebody bought a digital PS with a digital viewfinder. I was instantly turned off by the lines on the screen. Tell me it's better now??? Regards, Bob S. Hi Bob, You answered part of it yourself. :) This is today, that was years ago. No lines. I was mildly blown away by the IQ of the NEX-7 EVF. Some will whine about noise in low light, but then they should also whine that they can't see a heck of a lot through an optical VF when light levels are low. If anything, at very low light levels an EVF at least gives you a representation of what's being imaged, where with optical, one is almost blind. Take a look through a NEX-6 or 7 EVF. It's a 2.3 million pixel image. That's more than twice the pixel count of the LCD monitor. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
Well not really looking through... looking at. Tom C. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Years ago somebody bought a digital PS with a digital viewfinder. I was instantly turned off by the lines on the screen. Tell me it's better now??? Regards, Bob S. Hi Bob, You answered part of it yourself. :) This is today, that was years ago. No lines. I was mildly blown away by the IQ of the NEX-7 EVF. Some will whine about noise in low light, but then they should also whine that they can't see a heck of a lot through an optical VF when light levels are low. If anything, at very low light levels an EVF at least gives you a representation of what's being imaged, where with optical, one is almost blind. Take a look through a NEX-6 or 7 EVF. It's a 2.3 million pixel image. That's more than twice the pixel count of the LCD monitor. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Battery Point Restaurant
Inviting and intriguing. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Philip Northeast rnort...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Pentax K5 DA 21mm Limited - ISO 3200 - f3.2 and 1/20sec (hand held) http://abouttas.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Battery-Point-restaurant.jpg -- Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG
Thank you Cotty! and Bob! Godfrey On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:12 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157635478987878/ DELIGHTFUL set of pics! Love the square format and the endearing softness. Really really nice job Godders -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG
On 10/9/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: My photo workshop group gathered for our annual summer party last Sunday. I carried the Polaroid SX-70 and two packs of Impossible Project film to see what I could get with it. There's something just beautiful to my eye about the photos this camera makes, despite all the defects and weirdnesses of the camera. This set include fourteen of the exposures ... The other two weren't worth posting due to problems. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157635478987878/ Thanks for looking! DELIGHTFUL set of pics! Love the square format and the endearing softness. Really really nice job Godders -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
I used a Nikon Coolpix 5700 with an EVF, for evidence photography, years ago and in my opinion it was a great camera for static image capture but wasn't one to use for any sort of dynamic capture - there was a noticeable time delay between pushing the shutter release and the actual image capture - giving you the image that occurred after the one you wanted. Does this delay still exist in modern EVFs? -Original Message- From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey Years ago somebody bought a digital PS with a digital viewfinder. I was instantly turned off by the lines on the screen. Tell me it's better now??? Regards, Bob S. Hi Bob, You answered part of it yourself. :) This is today, that was years ago. No lines. I was mildly blown away by the IQ of the NEX-7 EVF. Some will whine about noise in low light, but then they should also whine that they can't see a heck of a lot through an optical VF when light levels are low. If anything, at very low light levels an EVF at least gives you a representation of what's being imaged, where with optical, one is almost blind. Take a look through a NEX-6 or 7 EVF. It's a 2.3 million pixel image. That's more than twice the pixel count of the LCD monitor. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
Ken, can it be that you're confusing the shutter release lag with EVF operation. With my Ricoh GXR and (manual focus) Leica M-module, everything is quite excellent in this regard. Both the viewfinder is very easy to use and focusing by b/w focus assist is easy. The shutter release is very fast, though it takes time between shots, which I gather is limitation of the rather aged body. In other words, for people with weaker eyes, EVF can be actually preferable as it: 1. Ensures relatively uniform brightness despite different lighting conditions outside, which IMO is a good thing. 2. With proper implementation, focus assist is easier than squinting through OVF even with special screens, and as you might know - I've tried quite a few of them. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: I used a Nikon Coolpix 5700 with an EVF, for evidence photography, years ago and in my opinion it was a great camera for static image capture but wasn't one to use for any sort of dynamic capture - there was a noticeable time delay between pushing the shutter release and the actual image capture - giving you the image that occurred after the one you wanted. Does this delay still exist in modern EVFs? -Original Message- From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey Years ago somebody bought a digital PS with a digital viewfinder. I was instantly turned off by the lines on the screen. Tell me it's better now??? Regards, Bob S. Hi Bob, You answered part of it yourself. :) This is today, that was years ago. No lines. I was mildly blown away by the IQ of the NEX-7 EVF. Some will whine about noise in low light, but then they should also whine that they can't see a heck of a lot through an optical VF when light levels are low. If anything, at very low light levels an EVF at least gives you a representation of what's being imaged, where with optical, one is almost blind. Take a look through a NEX-6 or 7 EVF. It's a 2.3 million pixel image. That's more than twice the pixel count of the LCD monitor. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
The modern EVF cameras have reduced lag to almost non-existent. My older EVF cameras - Sony F707/F717/F828/R1, Olympus 8080WZ, Panasonic FZ10, Minolta A2 - were fairly pathetic on viewfinder responsiveness and resolution. I used the viewfinder primarily as a targeting device. I remember the FZ10 resolution and refresh being so slow I couldn't even see birds in flight with it ... they disappeared in the refresh cycles. Yet I took quite a few successful photos of birds in flight with it by guessing... EVF responsiveness slows down somewhat as light levels drop ... the sensor has to collect more data, the EVF has to display a few frames of capture data to keep brightness up to a usable standard. But when that's happening, with SLRs it's so dark I can't see anything at all, and certainly can't focus. In either case, if the subject is in motion, I'm back to old reliable: focus by zone, guess the timing. The NEX 6 has a terrific EVF ... better than the NEX 7 to my eye, despite the specifications. The OM-D E-M5 viewfinder is on par with that, the Olympus VF-4 for the E-P5 goes another, noticeable notch better. The new E-M1 viewfinder uses the VF-4 panel but has even better supporting circuitry. Godfrey On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: I used a Nikon Coolpix 5700 with an EVF, for evidence photography, years ago and in my opinion it was a great camera for static image capture but wasn't one to use for any sort of dynamic capture - there was a noticeable time delay between pushing the shutter release and the actual image capture - giving you the image that occurred after the one you wanted. Does this delay still exist in modern EVFs? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Smoke Effects
I like the effect; well done indeed. It reminds me of the Hawaiian sunsets colored by vog from the volcanoes on the Big Island. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: There has been some smoke in our area from the Yosemite Rim fire that provided an opportunity. Taken with the K5, Sigma 100-300/4 EX http://www.flickriver.com/photos/101434682@N06/9725783174/#large -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Lens handover and trip to Primrose Hill
Thanks for looking and for the comments Bob S., Bob W., Bruce, Chris, Darren Dan! I'm no Butterfly expert (my job is Curator of Dragonflies and Small Orders, which is essentially the river insects and lacewings), but John I think the leaf mimics would probably move once a caterpillar started climbing / munching on them ;) Looking forward to getting out there again! Cheers, Ben -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: I used a Nikon Coolpix 5700 with an EVF, for evidence photography, years ago and in my opinion it was a great camera for static image capture but wasn't one to use for any sort of dynamic capture - there was a noticeable time delay between pushing the shutter release and the actual image capture - giving you the image that occurred after the one you wanted. Does this delay still exist in modern EVFs? With NEX-6/7 there is no noticeable shutter lag and captured image display in the EVF is instantaneous. NEX-6/7 use the same EVF from what I read. My son has the 6 and I have 7. He took the NEX-6 to Bumbershoot in Seattle recently. Lots of indoor concert shots with stage lighting. He quickly ditched his iPhone 5 in favor of the NEX-6. :) For those of us with older eyes, the modern EVF's almost feel like a new pair of glasses. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, Boris Liberman wrote: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: ... I'm not a big fan of composing on the LCD and have yet to actually try an electronic viewfinder. You may be very pleasantly surprised on both counts here. I don't easily recall when I last used my K-5 and I totally don't miss optical viewfinder thereof... Well, I've used all three recently: LCD screen, OVF (K-5 and Nikon P7100), and EVF (Fuji X-S1). I overall prefer the K-5 OVF; the P7100's OVF is useless for anything other than a backup in bright light. But a screen, particularly a tilting or articulated screen, makes certain shots a lot easier; a current-generation EVF is better than the P7100's OVF. If the K-5 had a better live view screen, I'd probably use it a bit more than I did on our cruise, but really, viewfinders have better shooting ergonomics. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The fun. It just keeps on happening for me too.
And just like that someone from pentaxforums messages me with a good copy for a very good price. Waiting to see some pictures of it. :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
You guys are making me think I should go down to the store and take a look at these new EVF's. Another question I have is in regards to sports shooting - any lag as you pan the camera following the action? -- Bruce Sent from my iPad On Sep 11, 2013, at 8:31 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: I used a Nikon Coolpix 5700 with an EVF, for evidence photography, years ago and in my opinion it was a great camera for static image capture but wasn't one to use for any sort of dynamic capture - there was a noticeable time delay between pushing the shutter release and the actual image capture - giving you the image that occurred after the one you wanted. Does this delay still exist in modern EVFs? With NEX-6/7 there is no noticeable shutter lag and captured image display in the EVF is instantaneous. NEX-6/7 use the same EVF from what I read. My son has the 6 and I have 7. He took the NEX-6 to Bumbershoot in Seattle recently. Lots of indoor concert shots with stage lighting. He quickly ditched his iPhone 5 in favor of the NEX-6. :) For those of us with older eyes, the modern EVF's almost feel like a new pair of glasses. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, Darren Addy wrote: But if you asked me the brand that appears most likely to be my 2nd choice, should it ever come to that, I would say Sony. Their NEX cameras are pretty clearly the best mirrorless option out there, IQ-wise, but I'm not a big fan of composing on the LCD and have yet to actually try an electronic viewfinder. Like many people, I'm semi-boycotting Sony for their idiotic attitudes toward DRM (including the rootkit on music CD incident). I'd need to see some serious public apology from them before I'd consider buying into their system. (Can't completely boycott Sony until/unless they divest their movie studio ;-), but no hardware.) -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Lens handover and trip to Primrose Hill
Ben, I forgot to mention how effective those pictures of the butterflies on the plain white background were. Not a choice I thought I'd like. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Ben Price ben.wills.pr...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for looking and for the comments Bob S., Bob W., Bruce, Chris, Darren Dan! I'm no Butterfly expert (my job is Curator of Dragonflies and Small Orders, which is essentially the river insects and lacewings), but John I think the leaf mimics would probably move once a caterpillar started climbing / munching on them ;) Looking forward to getting out there again! Cheers, Ben -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
Hi Marnie, Was browsing and came across this interesting little article. Caveat: it was written over 9 months ago so I don't know if updated firmware is available. http://photomojomike.com/2012/11/21/fujifilm-x-e1-first-impressions/ I'm V interested in the X-E1, hence my post. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Smoke Effects
Very well done, Bruce! Composition is just great. Exposure is dramatic and without appearing pushed. Jack - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com To: pdml@pdml.net pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: PESO - Smoke Effects There has been some smoke in our area from the Yosemite Rim fire that provided an opportunity. Taken with the K5, Sigma 100-300/4 EX http://www.flickriver.com/photos/101434682@N06/9725783174/#large -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
Bruce wrote: You guys are making me think I should go down to the store and take a look at these new EVF's. Another question I have is in regards to sports shooting - any lag as you pan the camera following the action? I don't shoot sports but I wouldn't think so. I pan with the NEX-7 just as one would do with an OVF to compose, and I see exactly what the camera sees. Possibly one would want to turn auto review off at those times so the EVF doesn't review the image, but a half-press of the shutter release clears the preview and goes back to EVF live view. I suspect in Continuous Shooting mode, where the shutter is depressed constantly, that it it automatically turns off image review and one simply sees the normal EVF view, unhindered. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
Mike Johnston just reported on rumors that next month will see the announcement of an interchangeable-lens sibling to the full-frame Sony RX-1. Food for thought. And not long to wait to see if it's true. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, Steve Cottrell wrote: Was browsing and came across this interesting little article. Caveat: it was written over 9 months ago so I don't know if updated firmware is available. http://photomojomike.com/2012/11/21/fujifilm-x-e1-first-impressions/ Given Marnie's interest in telephoto, I wouldn't recommend the Fuji X series. The only real option is the 55-200, which is a bit short for a lens system and is rather heavy at nearly 1.3 pounds. By comparison, the Pentax DA 50-200 is only 0.6 pounds -- the extra weight for Fuji comes from both a slightly wider aperture and the OIS. It's also $700 compared with $130 or $240 for the Pentax depending on whether you want sealing. Heck, even the Pentax 55-300 is lighter than the Fuji 55-200. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
On 9/11/2013 6:31 PM, Tom C wrote: For those of us with older eyes, the modern EVF's almost feel like a new pair of glasses. Mine are not older but weaker and I totally second that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
The latest generation of EVF cameras have substantially reduced the tendency to tearing and jitter with camera motion—it's down to almost none now, and is certainly very usable for my needs. But it is still one area where a good reflex viewfinder has an advantage. Likewise C-AF tracking features. With most, you can shoot fast sequences but cannot expect the viewfinder and focusing system to track with AF very well. The new E-M1 represents a substantial improvement in this regard, with CDAF and PDAF on chip and hybrid operation for tracking. The NEX 6 and NEX 7 EVFs spec very similarly if not the same, yet when I looked at them side by side, the 6's EVF was somehow more comfortable and clearer to view with. Don't know why. I like the 6's control layout more too. Eh? Horses for courses. :-) Godfrey On Sep 11, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: You guys are making me think I should go down to the store and take a look at these new EVF's. Another question I have is in regards to sports shooting - any lag as you pan the camera following the action? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
Perhaps of more interest: http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/tag/fuji/ -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com Mike Johnston just reported on rumors that next month will see the announcement of an interchangeable-lens sibling to the full-frame Sony RX-1. Food for thought. And not long to wait to see if it's true. My opinion only... As nice as that sounds, it creates a situation of a very small body with some large heavy lenses. Many people whined and balked about the idea of the NEX body/lens matchup, even when the lenses were commensurately smaller/lighter and were specifically designed for the NEX cameras. I'm not quite sure where Sony is going with the idea, other than to prove they can. One of the desirable attributes of the mirrorless ILC's so far, has been the ability to carry a compact and light kit. A FF ILC, sort of negates that in some ways. I would hope, if it exists, that it would have an integrated EVF, not an attachment as the RX-1 has. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
on 2013-09-11 7:15 Tom C wrote Take a look through a NEX-6 or 7 EVF. It's a 2.3 million pixel image. That's more than twice the pixel count of the LCD monitor. be careful here - pixel is the wrong word; unfortunately, camera manufacturers have taken to inflating viewfinder resolution by counting dots rather than pixels; these dots are what we'd call sub-pixels on a computer display the actual pixels are composed of three dots, and the pixel count on the NEX-7 EVF is 768K (1024x768), so each EVF pixel represents about 32 image pixels; it seems like there is still room for improvement in EVF resolution, though tricks like boosting light levels and temporarily magnifying the focus area do give EVFs some advantages over optical -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The fun. It just keeps on happening for me too.
KEH shows a BGN A 28-135/4 currently in stock. Also a couple of 35-105 F4-5.6 SMC F MACRO (58) EX+ EX and a BGN 35-135 F3.5-4.5 SMC F MACRO (58). And two EX 28-105 F4-5.6 SMC FA (58) That says to me you should be able to find some suitable replacement to fit your needs once you are ready to buy. On 9/11/2013 12:30 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: Was running to catch a bus. My tripod swung around and got caught in between my legs. Down I went tumbling with the camera slamming into the asphalt. I had my A35-105/3.5 mounted. Its now bent beyond usability. Majorly bummed. The body on the camera is surprisingly unharmed. I am now with no good lenses outside of my not great, but passable 70-200. My,backup hard drive failed too the a couple of weeks ago. so unfortunately that's what needs to get replaced next. I know someone mentioned they were selling a 35-105. I'm pretty sure that is gone, but if its not let me know. I really want to replace that lens. It was superb in everything from portraits to landscapes. :( -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG
Andy Warhol's SX-70 was up on eBay recently http://petapixel.com/2013/08/09/andy-warhols-1986-sx-70-polaroid-land-camera-selling-on-ebay-for-5/ On 9/11/2013 2:51 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: My photo workshop group gathered for our annual summer party last Sunday. I carried the Polaroid SX-70 and two packs of Impossible Project film to see what I could get with it. There's something just beautiful to my eye about the photos this camera makes, despite all the defects and weirdnesses of the camera. This set include fourteen of the exposures ... The other two weren't worth posting due to problems. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157635478987878/ Thanks for looking! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Most expensive used lens Ive ever seen
Yet, oddly enough, an ounce of gold weighs more than an ounce of feathers. Go figure. On 9/11/2013 5:26 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: a pound of feathers, gold only has twelve troy oz per pound. On 9/10/2013 9:08 PM, John wrote: Which weighs more a pound of gold or a pound of feathers? On 9/10/2013 7:35 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 01:48:42PM -0400, John wrote: So much more affordable when you think of it as costing $430.43 per ounce. The web says that gold is now worth $1,365/oz, so it's not even worth it's weight in gold. unless you're talking 10KT gold, which seems to be about that. http://www.cashforgoldlosangeles.com/live-prices-we-pay-for-gold.aspx On 9/9/2013 9:56 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote: it weighs 11.5 pounds. Photography's greatest handicap is the ease with which the medium as such can be learned. As a result, too many budding neophytes learn to speak the language too long before they have anything to say. - Will Connell On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 6:41 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: ebay item 231050936281 -- J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Smoke Effects
Beautiful sunset, but the air's not fit to breathe. Looks like there's going to be some unplesant consequences for water supplies in the area as well. On 9/11/2013 12:39 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Very well done, Bruce! Composition is just great. Exposure is dramatic and without appearing pushed. Jack - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com To: pdml@pdml.net pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: PESO - Smoke Effects There has been some smoke in our area from the Yosemite Rim fire that provided an opportunity. Taken with the K5, Sigma 100-300/4 EX http://www.flickriver.com/photos/101434682@N06/9725783174/#large -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The fun. It just keeps on happening for me too.
I considered the F 35-105s pretty hard. I decided that I didn't want to give up the f3.5 constant. The A35-105 is pretty darned sharp wide open in the center. Perfect for portraits and bokeh is good @ 100mm. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: KEH shows a BGN A 28-135/4 currently in stock. Also a couple of 35-105 F4-5.6 SMC F MACRO (58) EX+ EX and a BGN 35-135 F3.5-4.5 SMC F MACRO (58). And two EX 28-105 F4-5.6 SMC FA (58) That says to me you should be able to find some suitable replacement to fit your needs once you are ready to buy. On 9/11/2013 12:30 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: Was running to catch a bus. My tripod swung around and got caught in between my legs. Down I went tumbling with the camera slamming into the asphalt. I had my A35-105/3.5 mounted. Its now bent beyond usability. Majorly bummed. The body on the camera is surprisingly unharmed. I am now with no good lenses outside of my not great, but passable 70-200. My,backup hard drive failed too the a couple of weeks ago. so unfortunately that's what needs to get replaced next. I know someone mentioned they were selling a 35-105. I'm pretty sure that is gone, but if its not let me know. I really want to replace that lens. It was superb in everything from portraits to landscapes. :( -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
On 9/11/2013 8:34 AM, Tom C wrote: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: ... I'm not a big fan of composing on the LCD and have yet to actually try an electronic viewfinder. Well, silly Darren, one composes with an LCD or electronic viewfinder exactly the same way one does with an optical viewfinder. :))) Not entirely. I can't see anything through the optical viewfinder if I try holding it out at arms length to compose the shot. Live View, when I've got the camera mounted on a tripod, hasn't turned out to be as bad as I feared it would be. It could be similar to using the ground glass on a view camera if I could remember to take my dark cloth along in my camera bag. Mostly it's tiresome having to get into the menu and change the DOF preview method ... and forgetting to change it back when I'm finished. Very disconcerting the next time I try to preview DOF through the viewfinder everything goes black. Just a momentary WTF? I don't think it's yet cost me any shots. I wonder if that's something that could be assigned to the green button? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?
They average $1500 used usually. $90 seems like quite the steal, ugly condition or not. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Non-Mfg-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK080090382060?r=FE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
Thanks Godfrey - I probably need to get my hands on some of the newer EVF's just to see how they currently are. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com Subject: Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey The modern EVF cameras have reduced lag to almost non-existent. My older EVF cameras - Sony F707/F717/F828/R1, Olympus 8080WZ, Panasonic FZ10, Minolta A2 - were fairly pathetic on viewfinder responsiveness and resolution. I used the viewfinder primarily as a targeting device. I remember the FZ10 resolution and refresh being so slow I couldn't even see birds in flight with it ... they disappeared in the refresh cycles. Yet I took quite a few successful photos of birds in flight with it by guessing... EVF responsiveness slows down somewhat as light levels drop ... the sensor has to collect more data, the EVF has to display a few frames of capture data to keep brightness up to a usable standard. But when that's happening, with SLRs it's so dark I can't see anything at all, and certainly can't focus. In either case, if the subject is in motion, I'm back to old reliable: focus by zone, guess the timing. The NEX 6 has a terrific EVF ... better than the NEX 7 to my eye, despite the specifications. The OM-D E-M5 viewfinder is on par with that, the Olympus VF-4 for the E-P5 goes another, noticeable notch better. The new E-M1 viewfinder uses the VF-4 panel but has even better supporting circuitry. Godfrey On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: I used a Nikon Coolpix 5700 with an EVF, for evidence photography, years ago and in my opinion it was a great camera for static image capture but wasn't one to use for any sort of dynamic capture - there was a noticeable time delay between pushing the shutter release and the actual image capture - giving you the image that occurred after the one you wanted. Does this delay still exist in modern EVFs? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG
Somehow, I doubt that spending $50K for Andy's camera will make my photos any better. I already have three SX-70s ... All of them were given to me. Of course, an order of ten packs of film just cost me $250 ... But I can buy a LOT of film of $50K. :-) Godfrey On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:11 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: Andy Warhol's SX-70 was up on eBay recently http://petapixel.com/2013/08/09/andy-warhols-1986-sx-70-polaroid-land-camera-selling-on-ebay-for-5/ On 9/11/2013 2:51 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: My photo workshop group gathered for our annual summer party last Sunday. I carried the Polaroid SX-70 and two packs of Impossible Project film to see what I could get with it. There's something just beautiful to my eye about the photos this camera makes, despite all the defects and weirdnesses of the camera. This set include fourteen of the exposures ... The other two weren't worth posting due to problems. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157635478987878/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: 1958 documentary on Ansel Adams (20 min. video)
Suburban = nowhere near as cool as a 46-48 Cadillac limousine.
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:42 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:
Check Craigslist for a used Chevy Suburban install the deck yourself.
On 9/9/2013 3:20 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
I'd love an old limo like his (with platform on top) to run around in
now. ('cept, given the fact that I'm a weenie and we are currently
enjoying 100 degree temps, I would like it to have modern air
conditioning).
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
wrote:
Me too! Proves St.Ansel was young once...
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
wrote:
Thank you, Darren. Enjoyed it.
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
wrote:
http://www.openculture.com/2013/02/the_creative_process_of_ansel_adams_revealed_in_1958_documentary.html
For those that have never seen it.
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Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
Well, Aahz, I suppose it is power to you then. You see, starting with K-7, the default focusing screen wasn't properly located for accurate shallow DOF manual focus (think 77/1.8 wide open or worse yet 50/1.2 wide open). I had a saga with K-7 shimming. The K-5 that I bought brand new - I decided not to get involved with this. So I bought a second hand K-5 which has properly shimmed screen. The problem is - my eyes become very tired very soon. Yes, I can hit focus, but not for long, not with any convenience anyway. Not so with my Ricoh GXR EVF. Again - I'm not saying that OVFs are junk. I'm saying that me in particular is better served with this particular kind of EVF. I looked at Panasonic's EVF that my brother bought for his LX-5 (or LX-7, whatever). It wasn't good at all although it was more modern than that of my Ricoh. I'm saying though that the EVFs have evolved enough to be sufficiently good tool for working with the camera. Boris On 9/11/2013 6:13 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, Boris Liberman wrote: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: ... I'm not a big fan of composing on the LCD and have yet to actually try an electronic viewfinder. You may be very pleasantly surprised on both counts here. I don't easily recall when I last used my K-5 and I totally don't miss optical viewfinder thereof... Well, I've used all three recently: LCD screen, OVF (K-5 and Nikon P7100), and EVF (Fuji X-S1). I overall prefer the K-5 OVF; the P7100's OVF is useless for anything other than a backup in bright light. But a screen, particularly a tilting or articulated screen, makes certain shots a lot easier; a current-generation EVF is better than the P7100's OVF. If the K-5 had a better live view screen, I'd probably use it a bit more than I did on our cruise, but really, viewfinders have better shooting ergonomics. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Smoke Effects
There has been some smoke in our area from the Yosemite Rim fire that provided an opportunity. Taken with the K5, Sigma 100-300/4 EX http://www.flickriver.com/photos/101434682@N06/9725783174/#large -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Battery Point Restaurant
Shot through a window? The reflection is distracting. On 9/10/2013 9:39 PM, Philip Northeast wrote: Pentax K5 DA 21mm Limited - ISO 3200 - f3.2 and 1/20sec (hand held) http://abouttas.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Battery-Point-restaurant.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: 1958 documentary on Ansel Adams (20 min. video)
Check Craigslist for a used Chevy Suburban install the deck yourself.
On 9/9/2013 3:20 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
I'd love an old limo like his (with platform on top) to run around in
now. ('cept, given the fact that I'm a weenie and we are currently
enjoying 100 degree temps, I would like it to have modern air
conditioning).
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
Me too! Proves St.Ansel was young once...
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you, Darren. Enjoyed it.
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.openculture.com/2013/02/the_creative_process_of_ansel_adams_revealed_in_1958_documentary.html
For those that have never seen it.
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Re: first impressions, mac mini quad core
on 2013-09-08 14:04 Larry Colen wrote It turns out that the 27 display isn't noticably taller, just wider. This gives me a bit more room on the sides for menus and such. My second display is a Dell u2312hm in vertical format. I'd prefer something with less of a wide aspect ratio in vertical format so it worked better on horizontal photos as well. the thunderbolt display has more vertical pixels (1440 vs 1200), though they may be more dense; a Thunderbolt display on an appropriate VESA mount can be ad hoc rotated 90 degrees; i've had displays on VESA mounts for a few years and only sometimes bother to do that i think you are saying the TB display is too wide to rotate comfortably, but is the u2312 also too wide? - if you want a large 4:3 format monitor, your options are limited; here's a faceted search showing some options: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENEN=17617%20600030156%20600416633IsNodeId=1name=20%20-%2022%20inches I think that I will want to go for a pure SSD for things like my lightroom catalogs, and quite possibly initial editing of my photos. note that the fusion drive takes up both bays I am going to need to explore thunderbolt storage options. Unfortunately they are not nearly as inexpensive as usb 3 or firewire. i wouldn't invest in any new Firewire storage unless you need it for legacy machines — USB 3 is faster and cheaper; a single spinning disk won't saturate USB 3, but current SSDs are getting there; for tomorrow's drives, Thunderbolt may have enough of an edge to be an easier choice; choose carefully - note the surprising variation of some available SSD-based external storage options: http://barefeats.com/hard168.html btw, at $100, this is the cheapest SATA-to-thunderbolt option i know of (you also need a cable): http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Portable-Thunderbolt-Adapter-STAE128/dp/B009HQCARY -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The fun. It just keeps on happening for me too.
I keep considering the A 28-135, but then look at the reviews on PF and decide against it. It looks pretty badass though. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: I considered the F 35-105s pretty hard. I decided that I didn't want to give up the f3.5 constant. The A35-105 is pretty darned sharp wide open in the center. Perfect for portraits and bokeh is good @ 100mm. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: KEH shows a BGN A 28-135/4 currently in stock. Also a couple of 35-105 F4-5.6 SMC F MACRO (58) EX+ EX and a BGN 35-135 F3.5-4.5 SMC F MACRO (58). And two EX 28-105 F4-5.6 SMC FA (58) That says to me you should be able to find some suitable replacement to fit your needs once you are ready to buy. On 9/11/2013 12:30 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: Was running to catch a bus. My tripod swung around and got caught in between my legs. Down I went tumbling with the camera slamming into the asphalt. I had my A35-105/3.5 mounted. Its now bent beyond usability. Majorly bummed. The body on the camera is surprisingly unharmed. I am now with no good lenses outside of my not great, but passable 70-200. My,backup hard drive failed too the a couple of weeks ago. so unfortunately that's what needs to get replaced next. I know someone mentioned they were selling a 35-105. I'm pretty sure that is gone, but if its not let me know. I really want to replace that lens. It was superb in everything from portraits to landscapes. :( -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
I'm not boycotting Sony, I just don't like their crap products. Every piece of Sony consumer electronics equipment I have ever owned failed had to be replaced exactly one day after the warranty expired. Although, I haven't forgotten (or forgiven) that root-kit debacle either. On 9/11/2013 11:16 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, Darren Addy wrote: But if you asked me the brand that appears most likely to be my 2nd choice, should it ever come to that, I would say Sony. Their NEX cameras are pretty clearly the best mirrorless option out there, IQ-wise, but I'm not a big fan of composing on the LCD and have yet to actually try an electronic viewfinder. Like many people, I'm semi-boycotting Sony for their idiotic attitudes toward DRM (including the rootkit on music CD incident). I'd need to see some serious public apology from them before I'd consider buying into their system. (Can't completely boycott Sony until/unless they divest their movie studio ;-), but no hardware.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
On the downside, you have to deal with that funky Minolta flash mount. On 9/11/2013 7:21 AM, Darren Addy wrote: I will say that a while back the one brand that had my attention was Sony. Pentax made a huge leap when they adopted Sony Exmor sensors, and Sony gives itself an edge in the sensor department. They also had fairly reasonably priced full frame options and the internal shake reduction that I appreciate in the Pentax DSLRs. I also like that they will accept Minolta Maxxum mount lenses, which gives a budget option there. I just didn't care for their Pellicle Mirror designs (which they apparently have now abandoned). Too much of a cost in light loss, in my opinion. But if you asked me the brand that appears most likely to be my 2nd choice, should it ever come to that, I would say Sony. Their NEX cameras are pretty clearly the best mirrorless option out there, IQ-wise, but I'm not a big fan of composing on the LCD and have yet to actually try an electronic viewfinder. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 10, 2013, Darren Addy wrote: Like the OP, I want a real viewfinder and I probably don't want a smaller sensor (mostly because I like wide and the smaller the sensor the harder it is to go wide with the focal length crop factor.) One issue for me is that I really do like a tilting screen for macro photography, I find it helps a lot. If LENSES are important, but you don't want HEAVY (two of the original poster's prerequisites) then I don't think you can do better than Pentax. They have nice light zooms and small light primes (Limiteds). The K-5 body is not overly large or heavy. Honestly, if the K-5 body is too heavy for you then I would hold off buying a camera and doing a little weight training. The K-5 body is 670 grams (with battery). You only save 34 grams by going to the entry level K-500. By contrast, the original Spotmatic in 1960 weighed 621 grams. As was mentioned, you can get a K-5 body for under your $600 figure, probably with a kit lens even. Still, if you're assembling a travel kit, shaving 20-30% in total bulk/weight can be significant. And aside from the Bigma, there aren't any current long zooms (compared with two 300mm -- 600mm/e -- in m4/3). This isn't an argument against Pentax, mind, I'm still flipping back and forth in my own mind whether the better lens variety and sensor quality with Pentax is more worthwhile. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, John wrote: Every piece of Sony consumer electronics equipment I have ever owned failed had to be replaced exactly one day after the warranty expired. Timex bought Sony??? -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 03:37:57PM -0400, Zos Xavius wrote: They average $1500 used usually. $90 seems like quite the steal, ugly condition or not. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Non-Mfg-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK080090382060?r=FE For about a C-note, it's probably worth getting it to find out. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?
KEH UG - Ugly Very rough looking. Multiple impressions in metal, excessive finish loss and brassing. Glass will have marks, fungus and/or haze which will affect picture quality.* which will affect picture quality says it all for me. It's not might affect picture quality, it's *WILL* affect picture quality. If KEH says it's only worth $90, I'll take their word for it. On 9/11/2013 3:37 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: They average $1500 used usually. $90 seems like quite the steal, ugly condition or not. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Non-Mfg-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK080090382060?r=FE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?
OhI thought that ugly lenses were still ok optically. Yeah, you are right it probably has fungus or something really awful. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:19 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: KEH UG - Ugly Very rough looking. Multiple impressions in metal, excessive finish loss and brassing. Glass will have marks, fungus and/or haze which will affect picture quality.* which will affect picture quality says it all for me. It's not might affect picture quality, it's *WILL* affect picture quality. If KEH says it's only worth $90, I'll take their word for it. On 9/11/2013 3:37 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: They average $1500 used usually. $90 seems like quite the steal, ugly condition or not. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Non-Mfg-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK080090382060?r=FE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The fun. It just keeps on happening for me too.
I had one of those along with the 35-105 and it is a big chunk of glass. It is nowhere near the performer as the 35-105. I ended up sending it back to KEH because of the mediocre optical quality. -- Bruce Sent from my iPad On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: I keep considering the A 28-135, but then look at the reviews on PF and decide against it. It looks pretty badass though. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: I considered the F 35-105s pretty hard. I decided that I didn't want to give up the f3.5 constant. The A35-105 is pretty darned sharp wide open in the center. Perfect for portraits and bokeh is good @ 100mm. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: KEH shows a BGN A 28-135/4 currently in stock. Also a couple of 35-105 F4-5.6 SMC F MACRO (58) EX+ EX and a BGN 35-135 F3.5-4.5 SMC F MACRO (58). And two EX 28-105 F4-5.6 SMC FA (58) That says to me you should be able to find some suitable replacement to fit your needs once you are ready to buy. On 9/11/2013 12:30 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: Was running to catch a bus. My tripod swung around and got caught in between my legs. Down I went tumbling with the camera slamming into the asphalt. I had my A35-105/3.5 mounted. Its now bent beyond usability. Majorly bummed. The body on the camera is surprisingly unharmed. I am now with no good lenses outside of my not great, but passable 70-200. My,backup hard drive failed too the a couple of weeks ago. so unfortunately that's what needs to get replaced next. I know someone mentioned they were selling a 35-105. I'm pretty sure that is gone, but if its not let me know. I really want to replace that lens. It was superb in everything from portraits to landscapes. :( -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG
And besides, I don't think there's any way for you to mount a Nikon 6mm f/2.8 Nikkor AI Fisheye Lens on it. 8-D On 9/11/2013 3:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Somehow, I doubt that spending $50K for Andy's camera will make my photos any better. I already have three SX-70s ... All of them were given to me. Of course, an order of ten packs of film just cost me $250 ... But I can buy a LOT of film of $50K. :-) Godfrey On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:11 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: Andy Warhol's SX-70 was up on eBay recently http://petapixel.com/2013/08/09/andy-warhols-1986-sx-70-polaroid-land-camera-selling-on-ebay-for-5/ On 9/11/2013 2:51 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: My photo workshop group gathered for our annual summer party last Sunday. I carried the Polaroid SX-70 and two packs of Impossible Project film to see what I could get with it. There's something just beautiful to my eye about the photos this camera makes, despite all the defects and weirdnesses of the camera. This set include fourteen of the exposures ... The other two weren't worth posting due to problems. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157635478987878/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?
I'm with John on this one. Somebody ELSE can have THAT steal. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: KEH UG - Ugly Very rough looking. Multiple impressions in metal, excessive finish loss and brassing. Glass will have marks, fungus and/or haze which will affect picture quality.* which will affect picture quality says it all for me. It's not might affect picture quality, it's *WILL* affect picture quality. If KEH says it's only worth $90, I'll take their word for it. On 9/11/2013 3:37 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: They average $1500 used usually. $90 seems like quite the steal, ugly condition or not. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Non-Mfg-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK080090382060?r=FE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
Not on the latest ones. They now have an ISO shoe fitted with the interface for their EVF on the RX-1, and the ISO shoe on the NEX 6 as well. In general, however, I'm not partial to the NEX bodies. They feel very cramped in my hands. The 6 seems the best of them so far, but it doesn't give me the same feeling of security that the Ricoh GXR does, which is essentially the same size. Same for the RX-1: our host at the Sunday event had just gotten one and I played with it for a while. It just seemed an awkward camera to handle and use for me. Godfrey On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:36 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: On the downside, you have to deal with that funky Minolta flash mount. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Colors on radiolab
Driving home last night, I caught a show on NPR about color perception. http://www.radiolab.org/2012/may/21/ There were some interesting discussions about trichromats, tetrachromats, and animals that are penta or hexchromats. It is something that I've been thinking about a lot lately, espcially since I've been playing with IR photography and the way it is captured and presented by my camera. With the ridiculously high resolution sensors now available, it would be interesting to experiment with bayer filters that had finer spectral resolution. Rather than having half of the pixels be green at 550nm, maybe have 1/4 centered at 520 and 1/4 at 580. Of course, we're limited not only by our eyes, but in the colors presented by our monitors. I don't know any way to directly apply any of the things dicussed in radio show to photography, but it is some interesting background on vision. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
Unless you're a working pro on paid assignment from Sports Illustrated, you're required to have shutter lag. Except, I can't remember if that's in the Constitution or the NFL's rule book. On 9/11/2013 11:37 AM, Bruce wrote: You guys are making me think I should go down to the store and take a look at these new EVF's. Another question I have is in regards to sports shooting - any lag as you pan the camera following the action? -- Bruce Sent from my iPad On Sep 11, 2013, at 8:31 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: I used a Nikon Coolpix 5700 with an EVF, for evidence photography, years ago and in my opinion it was a great camera for static image capture but wasn't one to use for any sort of dynamic capture - there was a noticeable time delay between pushing the shutter release and the actual image capture - giving you the image that occurred after the one you wanted. Does this delay still exist in modern EVFs? With NEX-6/7 there is no noticeable shutter lag and captured image display in the EVF is instantaneous. NEX-6/7 use the same EVF from what I read. My son has the 6 and I have 7. He took the NEX-6 to Bumbershoot in Seattle recently. Lots of indoor concert shots with stage lighting. He quickly ditched his iPhone 5 in favor of the NEX-6. :) For those of us with older eyes, the modern EVF's almost feel like a new pair of glasses. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG
Cotty could do it. He'll mount anything. B On 11 Sep 2013, at 21:09, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: And besides, I don't think there's any way for you to mount a Nikon 6mm f/2.8 Nikkor AI Fisheye Lens on it. 8-D On 9/11/2013 3:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Somehow, I doubt that spending $50K for Andy's camera will make my photos any better. I already have three SX-70s ... All of them were given to me. Of course, an order of ten packs of film just cost me $250 ... But I can buy a LOT of film of $50K. :-) Godfrey On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:11 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: Andy Warhol's SX-70 was up on eBay recently http://petapixel.com/2013/08/09/andy-warhols-1986-sx-70-polaroid-land-camera-selling-on-ebay-for-5/ On 9/11/2013 2:51 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: My photo workshop group gathered for our annual summer party last Sunday. I carried the Polaroid SX-70 and two packs of Impossible Project film to see what I could get with it. There's something just beautiful to my eye about the photos this camera makes, despite all the defects and weirdnesses of the camera. This set include fourteen of the exposures ... The other two weren't worth posting due to problems. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157635478987878/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: first impressions, mac mini quad core
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:53:52PM -0600, steve harley wrote: on 2013-09-08 14:04 Larry Colen wrote It turns out that the 27 display isn't noticably taller, just wider. This gives me a bit more room on the sides for menus and such. My second display is a Dell u2312hm in vertical format. I'd prefer something with less of a wide aspect ratio in vertical format so it worked better on horizontal photos as well. the thunderbolt display has more vertical pixels (1440 vs 1200), though they may be more dense; a Thunderbolt display on an appropriate VESA mount can be ad hoc rotated 90 degrees; i've had displays on VESA mounts for a few years and only sometimes bother to do that I was talking physical dimensions. I only had a 12 ruler handy, and both displays are a little taller than that. i think you are saying the TB display is too wide to rotate comfortably, but is the u2312 also too wide? - if you want a large 4:3 format monitor, your options are limited; here's a faceted search showing some options: I have the u2312 mounted vertically as my second monitor. It works great for vertical format photos, but I find myself using it for horizontal a lot more than I expected. The images on the second display pop up a lot faster than the ones on the primary display. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENEN=17617%20600030156%20600416633IsNodeId=1name=20%20-%2022%20inches Thanks. I think that I will want to go for a pure SSD for things like my lightroom catalogs, and quite possibly initial editing of my photos. note that the fusion drive takes up both bays I hadn't realized that. I was still thinking of an external USB 3.0 SSD for my catalog. I am going to need to explore thunderbolt storage options. Unfortunately they are not nearly as inexpensive as usb 3 or firewire. i wouldn't invest in any new Firewire storage unless you need it for legacy machines — USB 3 is faster and cheaper; a single spinning disk won't saturate USB 3, but current SSDs are getting there; for tomorrow's drives, Thunderbolt may have enough of an edge to be an easier choice; choose carefully - note the surprising variation of some available SSD-based external storage options: Yup, it's looking like USB 3 is the sweet spot for external storage. I was surprised to note that a four port USB 3.0 hub starts at $50 at Fry's. http://barefeats.com/hard168.html Thanks, for the link, it looks handy. btw, at $100, this is the cheapest SATA-to-thunderbolt option i know of (you also need a cable): http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Portable-Thunderbolt-Adapter-STAE128/dp/B009HQCARY -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
Boris, focusing wasn't an issue with the 5700 and moving animals/birds - but I mostly never was able to capture a moving subject and get it in the center of the frame - I had to anticipate where it was going to be when the camera decided to capture the image. Granted that was with an EVF that is now around 9 or 10 years old and they most likely have been improved. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey Ken, can it be that you're confusing the shutter release lag with EVF operation. With my Ricoh GXR and (manual focus) Leica M-module, everything is quite excellent in this regard. Both the viewfinder is very easy to use and focusing by b/w focus assist is easy. The shutter release is very fast, though it takes time between shots, which I gather is limitation of the rather aged body. In other words, for people with weaker eyes, EVF can be actually preferable as it: 1. Ensures relatively uniform brightness despite different lighting conditions outside, which IMO is a good thing. 2. With proper implementation, focus assist is easier than squinting through OVF even with special screens, and as you might know - I've tried quite a few of them. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: I used a Nikon Coolpix 5700 with an EVF, for evidence photography, years ago and in my opinion it was a great camera for static image capture but wasn't one to use for any sort of dynamic capture - there was a noticeable time delay between pushing the shutter release and the actual image capture - giving you the image that occurred after the one you wanted. Does this delay still exist in modern EVFs? -Original Message- From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey Years ago somebody bought a digital PS with a digital viewfinder. I was instantly turned off by the lines on the screen. Tell me it's better now??? Regards, Bob S. Hi Bob, You answered part of it yourself. :) This is today, that was years ago. No lines. I was mildly blown away by the IQ of the NEX-7 EVF. Some will whine about noise in low light, but then they should also whine that they can't see a heck of a lot through an optical VF when light levels are low. If anything, at very low light levels an EVF at least gives you a representation of what's being imaged, where with optical, one is almost blind. Take a look through a NEX-6 or 7 EVF. It's a 2.3 million pixel image. That's more than twice the pixel count of the LCD monitor. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Incentive to get busy learning how to use my O-GPS1
I'm embarrassed to say that I have YET to even try out my O-GPS1, which I purchased mainly for the AstroTracer functionality. Life has been a little disrupted, but is getting back to nominal (as NASA likes to say during their spacecraft launches). I now have an even greater incentive to get ON IT. Terry Lovejoy recently discovered a new comet (C/2013 R1) and on Dec. 25th it is expected to be possible to photograph BOTH IT Comet ISON in the same field with a short telephoto lens. Wowsers. Two comets in the same image? That has to be a near once-in-a-lifetime event. I need to get busy. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Big Chile
G'day all, Thanks for all the comments and thanks, Igor, for that detailed explanation. It appears that chile, chili and chilli are all correct - depending on location. I'm fairly sure 'chile' is accepted in New Mexico - we actually picked up a hand-out at Chimayo which went to great pains to insist that chile is correct. Sadly the hand-out must have been lost in our travels. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Quoting Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org: I agree with Rick's first statement. While my first instinct was similar to the rest that Rick wrote, Merriam-Webster and OED think differently: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chilli M-W recognizes chile and chilli as variaants of chili. OED, which has a tendency to be somewhat biased towards British usage, (or at least show both), has the main article that is for chilli | chilly ... which they define as The dried pod of species of Capsicum or Red Pepper, esp. C. Annuum gastigiatum and frutescens. Then, in compounds they have different variants in different phrases: chili pepper n, (a) = PEPPER TREE ;.. and then ... (b) erron. = CHILLI n. Also: chilli con carne n. (also chile con carne, chili con carne) (orig. U.S.) chilli sauce n. (usu. chili sauce) (chiefly U.S.) chilli-vinegar And some draft additions for the latest versions of the dictionary (1993-2007): chiles rellenos n. [Mexican Spanish: relleno = filled, stuffed] orig. U.S. (pl.) chilli powder n. (usu. chili powder) chilli dog n. N. Amer. a hot dog topped with a serving of chilli con carne. Overall, chile/chille - seems to be the original word, as it came from Spanish (to which it came from Central American Indian language in the 16th century.) Other variants are results of adaptation into English and its dialects. OED shows the centuries when various forms appeared: 16 chille, 16-18 chile, 17 chilly, 18 chili, 16 chilli. Brian, I hope this linguistic excursion answers a part of your question. Ann has already written that these peppers were stored that way (dried), and until being eaten would serve as a decoration. I wouldn't be surprised that in modern days some people use them only as decorations. Igor Tue Sep 10 11:05:47 EDT 2013 Rick Womer wrote: Beautiful shot. A chili is a pepper. Chile is the South American country (pronounced chee-lay). Chilly is what it is not in Philly today. Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Brian Walters apathyman at lyons-ryan.org To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml at pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:21 AM Subject: PESO - Big Chile G'day all, Another one from Santa Fe. These big bunches of chile* are common on the fronts of many houses in the south-west. I couldn't figure out if they were just decorative or whether there was some superstition of spiritual purpose. Does anyone know? http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP2141-K5-1peso.html Comments appreciated. * In Australia we generally use the spelling 'chilli', but 'chile' seems to be correct in New Mexico. -- Cheers Brian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG
On 11/9/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty could do it. He'll mount anything. And frequently do. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?
Thanks - I'll let you know how it checks it. stan On Sep 11, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I'm with John on this one. Somebody ELSE can have THAT steal. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: KEH UG - Ugly Very rough looking. Multiple impressions in metal, excessive finish loss and brassing. Glass will have marks, fungus and/or haze which will affect picture quality.* which will affect picture quality says it all for me. It's not might affect picture quality, it's *WILL* affect picture quality. If KEH says it's only worth $90, I'll take their word for it. On 9/11/2013 3:37 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: They average $1500 used usually. $90 seems like quite the steal, ugly condition or not. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Non-Mfg-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK080090382060?r=FE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?
Non manufacturer 400s average $1500? Not on this planet. Paul via phone On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: Thanks - I'll let you know how it checks it. stan On Sep 11, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I'm with John on this one. Somebody ELSE can have THAT steal. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: KEH UG - Ugly Very rough looking. Multiple impressions in metal, excessive finish loss and brassing. Glass will have marks, fungus and/or haze which will affect picture quality.* which will affect picture quality says it all for me. It's not might affect picture quality, it's *WILL* affect picture quality. If KEH says it's only worth $90, I'll take their word for it. On 9/11/2013 3:37 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: They average $1500 used usually. $90 seems like quite the steal, ugly condition or not. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Non-Mfg-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK080090382060?r=FE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - That Way!
Yesterday's was Which way?, so now I'll answer the question. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17524180size=lg or http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17524180-lg.jpg Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Normal Full Frame Zoom
Yes - that is what I meant - A 28-135 f4. Nice lens. On 9/10/2013 1:30 PM, John wrote: Did you mean an A 28-135/4? I couldn't find an A 28-100/4. http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/zooms/short/A28-135f4.html On 9/9/2013 8:29 PM, Mark C wrote: Thanks - I remember you posting about this lens but had forgotten about it. I had an A 28-100 f4 and loved it. I will keep my eyes peeled for one of these. Mark On 9/9/2013 5:06 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: A35-105/3.5. I haven't taken it off my camera at all lately. Razor sharp at even f3.5. Stop down and it gets so sharp it will cut you. I like this lens so much I'm going to track down a minty copy soon. Mine has some slop in the focusing, but I've been more than ok with fighting the focus when I get the results back on my computer. You lose AF and 28mm at the wide end, so this might not work all that well for you. As much as I love wide angle, I'm finding the 35-100 range quite useful indeed. 50mm equivalent is a bit for a walk around though.just a thought. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG
These remind me of photos from a Holga. Interesting and unusual way to document the party, I think. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com To: PAW Picture-A-Week project p...@micapeak.com; SeePhoto Talk seeph...@micapeak.com; BAPhotoShooters BAPA baphotoshoot...@yahoogroups.com; PDML List PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 2:51 AM Subject: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG My photo workshop group gathered for our annual summer party last Sunday. I carried the Polaroid SX-70 and two packs of Impossible Project film to see what I could get with it. There's something just beautiful to my eye about the photos this camera makes, despite all the defects and weirdnesses of the camera. This set include fourteen of the exposures ... The other two weren't worth posting due to problems. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157635478987878/ Thanks for looking! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
From all accounts the GXR is a very good camera system, but I don't understand it (at all) and when you have something that is radically different than everything else out there, the burden falls upon the marketing department to make it clear. I look at the GXR modules on Amazon and it is not clear to me what mounts they work with. If I come to the GXR with K-mount lenses I want to put on it, which module do I use? Do I need an adapter? What do I lose and what can I keep (A metering, AF? ) No clue. When I look at GXR mount A-12 for instance, I have no idea what A-12 stands for. Description says Universal mount handling Leica M lenses and more? Really? and more? What might the and more include? It's $500 and it isn't a lens. And it isn't a body. Then I see A12 lenses like the 28mm f2.5 for $540. Do I need the GXR mount A-12 in addition to this? I have a very low tolerance for feeling stupid (funny, since I feel that way most of the time) and products like this make me feel like I'm back in DOS land and have to crack the manual for every little thing or I get a syntax error. Not that I'm actually looking at the GXR, since I don't see how hit gains me a single thing over my K-5 ii. But if this is an example of how Ricoh is going to lead Pentax marketing to the Promised Land, let's just say I'm not holding my breath. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, John wrote: Every piece of Sony consumer electronics equipment I have ever owned failed had to be replaced exactly one day after the warranty expired. Timex bought Sony??? -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
My favorite second party camera is my iphone5. It's all I need in a compact camera. I've even done some work for the Times with it when circumstances required that. Paul via phone On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:56 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: From all accounts the GXR is a very good camera system, but I don't understand it (at all) and when you have something that is radically different than everything else out there, the burden falls upon the marketing department to make it clear. I look at the GXR modules on Amazon and it is not clear to me what mounts they work with. If I come to the GXR with K-mount lenses I want to put on it, which module do I use? Do I need an adapter? What do I lose and what can I keep (A metering, AF? ) No clue. When I look at GXR mount A-12 for instance, I have no idea what A-12 stands for. Description says Universal mount handling Leica M lenses and more? Really? and more? What might the and more include? It's $500 and it isn't a lens. And it isn't a body. Then I see A12 lenses like the 28mm f2.5 for $540. Do I need the GXR mount A-12 in addition to this? I have a very low tolerance for feeling stupid (funny, since I feel that way most of the time) and products like this make me feel like I'm back in DOS land and have to crack the manual for every little thing or I get a syntax error. Not that I'm actually looking at the GXR, since I don't see how hit gains me a single thing over my K-5 ii. But if this is an example of how Ricoh is going to lead Pentax marketing to the Promised Land, let's just say I'm not holding my breath. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, John wrote: Every piece of Sony consumer electronics equipment I have ever owned failed had to be replaced exactly one day after the warranty expired. Timex bought Sony??? -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
The way I understand it is that effectively each GXR module is the camera portion of a digital point and shoot. I.e. the lens, aperture, shutter and sensor. The body part is the computer half of a digital point and shoot, that holds the display, viewfinder, memory, buttons etc. The advantages this gives you over an SLR are that the lens and the sensors can be optimized to each other, and also that you can change lenses without getting dust on the sensor. I think that there are different body options, each with different ergonomics and features. My understanding is that if you want to use it as a normal replaceable lens camera, then there is the m-mount, which fits leica lenses. Since it has a shorter registratin distance than SLR lenses you can get (third party?) adapters to the leica M mount, which allow you to use, for example, Pentax K-mount lenses. The disadvantage of this system is that as far as I understand it, you cannot upgrade the sensor in the camera module. So, if I bought a 35mm lens with a K20 era sensor, that lens will never have better than K20 level sensor performance. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 08:56:38PM -0500, Darren Addy wrote: From all accounts the GXR is a very good camera system, but I don't understand it (at all) and when you have something that is radically different than everything else out there, the burden falls upon the marketing department to make it clear. I look at the GXR modules on Amazon and it is not clear to me what mounts they work with. If I come to the GXR with K-mount lenses I want to put on it, which module do I use? Do I need an adapter? What do I lose and what can I keep (A metering, AF? ) No clue. When I look at GXR mount A-12 for instance, I have no idea what A-12 stands for. Description says Universal mount handling Leica M lenses and more? Really? and more? What might the and more include? It's $500 and it isn't a lens. And it isn't a body. Then I see A12 lenses like the 28mm f2.5 for $540. Do I need the GXR mount A-12 in addition to this? I have a very low tolerance for feeling stupid (funny, since I feel that way most of the time) and products like this make me feel like I'm back in DOS land and have to crack the manual for every little thing or I get a syntax error. Not that I'm actually looking at the GXR, since I don't see how hit gains me a single thing over my K-5 ii. But if this is an example of how Ricoh is going to lead Pentax marketing to the Promised Land, let's just say I'm not holding my breath. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, John wrote: Every piece of Sony consumer electronics equipment I have ever owned failed had to be replaced exactly one day after the warranty expired. Timex bought Sony??? -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
Thanks Darren - you expressed my frustration exactly! I have 2-3 legacy Leica lenses, because of these I have a passing interest in any adapter or system that purports to provide me a chance to use those lenses digitally. I tried to look at the GXR and I just don't get it. Back in the day, there would have been a local camera store that sold something other than basic Canon and Nikon, and I could have gone down to ask and probably get a demo on the spot . . . stan On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:56 PM, Darren Addy wrote: From all accounts the GXR is a very good camera system, but I don't understand it (at all) and when you have something that is radically different than everything else out there, the burden falls upon the marketing department to make it clear. I look at the GXR modules on Amazon and it is not clear to me what mounts they work with. If I come to the GXR with K-mount lenses I want to put on it, which module do I use? Do I need an adapter? What do I lose and what can I keep (A metering, AF? ) No clue. When I look at GXR mount A-12 for instance, I have no idea what A-12 stands for. Description says Universal mount handling Leica M lenses and more? Really? and more? What might the and more include? It's $500 and it isn't a lens. And it isn't a body. Then I see A12 lenses like the 28mm f2.5 for $540. Do I need the GXR mount A-12 in addition to this? I have a very low tolerance for feeling stupid (funny, since I feel that way most of the time) and products like this make me feel like I'm back in DOS land and have to crack the manual for every little thing or I get a syntax error. Not that I'm actually looking at the GXR, since I don't see how hit gains me a single thing over my K-5 ii. But if this is an example of how Ricoh is going to lead Pentax marketing to the Promised Land, let's just say I'm not holding my breath. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, John wrote: Every piece of Sony consumer electronics equipment I have ever owned failed had to be replaced exactly one day after the warranty expired. Timex bought Sony??? -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
Thanks Larry - that helps. On Sep 11, 2013, at 10:21 PM, Larry Colen wrote: The way I understand it is that effectively each GXR module is the camera portion of a digital point and shoot. I.e. the lens, aperture, shutter and sensor. The body part is the computer half of a digital point and shoot, that holds the display, viewfinder, memory, buttons etc. The advantages this gives you over an SLR are that the lens and the sensors can be optimized to each other, and also that you can change lenses without getting dust on the sensor. I think that there are different body options, each with different ergonomics and features. My understanding is that if you want to use it as a normal replaceable lens camera, then there is the m-mount, which fits leica lenses. Since it has a shorter registratin distance than SLR lenses you can get (third party?) adapters to the leica M mount, which allow you to use, for example, Pentax K-mount lenses. The disadvantage of this system is that as far as I understand it, you cannot upgrade the sensor in the camera module. So, if I bought a 35mm lens with a K20 era sensor, that lens will never have better than K20 level sensor performance. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 08:56:38PM -0500, Darren Addy wrote: From all accounts the GXR is a very good camera system, but I don't understand it (at all) and when you have something that is radically different than everything else out there, the burden falls upon the marketing department to make it clear. I look at the GXR modules on Amazon and it is not clear to me what mounts they work with. If I come to the GXR with K-mount lenses I want to put on it, which module do I use? Do I need an adapter? What do I lose and what can I keep (A metering, AF? ) No clue. When I look at GXR mount A-12 for instance, I have no idea what A-12 stands for. Description says Universal mount handling Leica M lenses and more? Really? and more? What might the and more include? It's $500 and it isn't a lens. And it isn't a body. Then I see A12 lenses like the 28mm f2.5 for $540. Do I need the GXR mount A-12 in addition to this? I have a very low tolerance for feeling stupid (funny, since I feel that way most of the time) and products like this make me feel like I'm back in DOS land and have to crack the manual for every little thing or I get a syntax error. Not that I'm actually looking at the GXR, since I don't see how hit gains me a single thing over my K-5 ii. But if this is an example of how Ricoh is going to lead Pentax marketing to the Promised Land, let's just say I'm not holding my breath. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, John wrote: Every piece of Sony consumer electronics equipment I have ever owned failed had to be replaced exactly one day after the warranty expired. Timex bought Sony??? -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:26:30PM -0400, Stan Halpin wrote: Thanks Larry - that helps. I should post the disclaimer that I don't think that I have ever even seen a Ricoh GXR in real life. I've seen a lot of Suzuki GSXRs, but they are subtley different. It is possible that I was in error about there being different body modules for the GXR, what I thought were different bodies, were different cameras altogether (GR). It is possible that they have upgraded the body module, with better displays or something, but they don't seem to have one with an evf. On Sep 11, 2013, at 10:21 PM, Larry Colen wrote: The way I understand it is that effectively each GXR module is the camera portion of a digital point and shoot. I.e. the lens, aperture, shutter and sensor. The body part is the computer half of a digital point and shoot, that holds the display, viewfinder, memory, buttons etc. The advantages this gives you over an SLR are that the lens and the sensors can be optimized to each other, and also that you can change lenses without getting dust on the sensor. I think that there are different body options, each with different ergonomics and features. My understanding is that if you want to use it as a normal replaceable lens camera, then there is the m-mount, which fits leica lenses. Since it has a shorter registratin distance than SLR lenses you can get (third party?) adapters to the leica M mount, which allow you to use, for example, Pentax K-mount lenses. The disadvantage of this system is that as far as I understand it, you cannot upgrade the sensor in the camera module. So, if I bought a 35mm lens with a K20 era sensor, that lens will never have better than K20 level sensor performance. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 08:56:38PM -0500, Darren Addy wrote: From all accounts the GXR is a very good camera system, but I don't understand it (at all) and when you have something that is radically different than everything else out there, the burden falls upon the marketing department to make it clear. I look at the GXR modules on Amazon and it is not clear to me what mounts they work with. If I come to the GXR with K-mount lenses I want to put on it, which module do I use? Do I need an adapter? What do I lose and what can I keep (A metering, AF? ) No clue. When I look at GXR mount A-12 for instance, I have no idea what A-12 stands for. Description says Universal mount handling Leica M lenses and more? Really? and more? What might the and more include? It's $500 and it isn't a lens. And it isn't a body. Then I see A12 lenses like the 28mm f2.5 for $540. Do I need the GXR mount A-12 in addition to this? I have a very low tolerance for feeling stupid (funny, since I feel that way most of the time) and products like this make me feel like I'm back in DOS land and have to crack the manual for every little thing or I get a syntax error. Not that I'm actually looking at the GXR, since I don't see how hit gains me a single thing over my K-5 ii. But if this is an example of how Ricoh is going to lead Pentax marketing to the Promised Land, let's just say I'm not holding my breath. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, John wrote: Every piece of Sony consumer electronics equipment I have ever owned failed had to be replaced exactly one day after the warranty expired. Timex bought Sony??? -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
Darren, I don't know how your comments relate to the quotations by John and Aahz Maruch that you included. The Ricoh GXR is a unique camera system, and Ricoh has not been very good at explaining what it's all about. The concept is this: Build a compact, light camera as a pair of modules: - The first module is the body unit ... this is where the storage, IO, and user control interface lives. It is the same for all configurations of the camera. - The second module is the camera or mount unit ... this unit can be pretty free-form. At its basic, it is a sealed unit which combines a lens and a matched sensor. The name of a camera unit includes a letter code to indicate the sensor format (P = 1/2.3, S = 1/1.7, A = APS-C), a Megapixel count (10, 12, 16) to indicate the sensor resolution class, and a lens focal length equivalent range (28-300mm, 24-72mm, 24-85mm, 50mm Macro, 28mm). The notion being that you can build a compact ultra-zoom with a small sensor up to an APS-C sensor with a prime or short zoom and stay within a relatively compact, light range. So you have camera units P10 28-300mm, A12 50mm Macro, A16 24-85mm, etc. Camera units implement full AF features and capabilities, and all have leaf shutters. The mount unit decouples the lens from the sensor. This is the A12 Camera Mount, which means an APS-C 12Mpixel sensor fitted with a focal plane shutter and a Leica M-bayonet lens mount. The sensor in this mount unit is optimized to work with M-bayonet type RF lenses with 28mm mount register, but you can also use third party mount adapters to fit nearly any Leica Thread Mount or SLR lens to the A12 Camera Mount. Pick a body unit and any camera/mount unit, put them together, you have a camera. If you've chosen any of the camera units, what you have is a sophisticated compact AF camera with excellent customizability and controls. If you've chosen the A12 Camera Mount, what you have is a compact, digital, manual focus camera body that is optimized to work with M-bayonet lenses of your choosing. If you want to use a K-mount lens, you would purchase a Pentax K to M-bayonet mount adapter and fit that to the mount unit, then fit your lens. With any combination of body and camera/mount unit, you can also add an EVF (Ricoh VF-2), use the LCD, or fit an optical viewfinder of your choice. What does this system gain you over a K5 II? Mostly size and flexibility of configuration. It happens to work extremely well, when configured as body unit plus A12 Camera Mount, with some of the finest lenses around anywhere, of whatever mount, and yet in two seconds can be reconfigured to be a pocketable ultra-zoom point and shoot. Snap the body together with any camera unit and the mode dial set to the green camera, and you need to know nothing at all to use it. Fit the A12 Camera Mount, a Summicron-M 35mm f/2 ASPH lens, or a lens mount adapter and a Micro-Nikkor 200mm f/4 macro lens, and you have a manual focus super-high-quality camera suitable for the advanced amateur or pro demanding use. Ricoh's vision of the GXR system once included several other interesting units, like a unit for radio controlled photography, a hard-drive storage unit, a pocket-sized printer, etc, that were never brought to market. The GXR modular camera concept is more complex and expensive than a simple point and shoot or a traditional body = sensor and shutter, add lens model. It has unique qualities and value if you choose to make the effort to learn about it. Your other comments about Ricoh vis a vis their acquisition of Pentax, well, I'm not one to speculate on what Ricoh ought to be doing with their brand and products. I only care about what they have produced in interesting, high quality camera equipment. The GXR is one of those products. G On Sep 11, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: From all accounts the GXR is a very good camera system, but I don't understand it (at all) and when you have something that is radically different than everything else out there, the burden falls upon the marketing department to make it clear. I look at the GXR modules on Amazon and it is not clear to me what mounts they work with. If I come to the GXR with K-mount lenses I want to put on it, which module do I use? Do I need an adapter? What do I lose and what can I keep (A metering, AF? ) No clue. When I look at GXR mount A-12 for instance, I have no idea what A-12 stands for. Description says Universal mount handling Leica M lenses and more? Really? and more? What might the and more include? It's $500 and it isn't a lens. And it isn't a body. Then I see A12 lenses like the 28mm f2.5 for $540. Do I need the GXR mount A-12 in addition to this? I have a very low tolerance for feeling stupid (funny, since I feel that way most of the time) and products like this make me feel like I'm back in DOS land and have to crack the manual for every little thing or I get a
Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey
Darren (Larry, et al), it is in fact very simple thing. Have a look: 1. You have a camera body. The body serves all the electronic functions: - card - battery - screen - user interface - external interfaces 2. You have two small sensor lens modules (I think it is 24-72 and 28-300 or whatever), where 24-72 has slightly bigger sensor. I did not see these in real life. 3. You have a number of big sensor lens modules: - A12-50 (A12 stands for 12 MP sensor, similar to that of K-r), which in fact is 33/2.5 macro lens. It goes to half life size. Here, as it has been earlier said, you cannot detach the lens from the sensor. This may be considered disadvantage. Advantages are size due to tight optimization and the idea that you needn't worry about the dust when you (don't :-) ) swap lenses. - A12-28 is built on top of the same sensor but has 18/2.5 lens, which translates to 28 mm EFL. For brevity and due to my laziness I omit the fractions from focal lengths. I have both of these modules and they are outstanding. The color and tonal quality appear to beat K-5, at least subjectively in my own eyes. Very fine instruments indeed(*). - A16 (I don't remember the rest of designation) is built on top of 16 MP sensor similar to that in K-5. It has 24-85/3.5-4.5 or some such zoom lens, which if I understand correctly has only discrete set of focal lengths. I've seen very nice pictures from this lens module but haven't tried it myself. - A12 Mount - this is the topping of the cream. This is just a sensor, a shutter and Leica M-mount. No electronic connections are offered for the lens. No AA-filter (I caught moire few times, this was fun) and lo and behold, for like USD 700 (including the body) you get yourself a proper Leica M-mount camera(**). That's it. There're other accessories and additions to this system - EVF, OVF, flash, cases, etc. You can look it up. Speaking of K-mount and adapters. I have Novoflex adapter. It is expensive but: 1. It is very precise in terms of workmanship and thus gives me proper infinity focus without any mental somersaults... 2. It has its own aperture actuator ring. That is, you can either handle the aperture from the lens, should it have aperture ring, or you can do so with this ring. It has no intermediate markings, only full open and fully closed marks, hence it is somewhat tricky to operate, but nonetheless you can use *any* K-mount lens on any M-mount camera, not just Ricoh. (*) Under bright light at nominal ISO. Unlike Pentax who has very wide tolerance in dark tones, Ricoh optimized their imaging engine to offer more recoverable data in bright areas. To me personally this is a huge plus. (**) There is a little catch. The M-moudule comes with the plastic cup of sorts. It serves to check whether the lens can damage the internals of the camera. Ricoh lists the lenses on the web-site/in the manual or wherever. But in general older collapsible lenses may be troublesome. HTH. Boris On 9/12/2013 4:56 AM, Darren Addy wrote: From all accounts the GXR is a very good camera system, but I don't understand it (at all) and when you have something that is radically different than everything else out there, the burden falls upon the marketing department to make it clear. I look at the GXR modules on Amazon and it is not clear to me what mounts they work with. If I come to the GXR with K-mount lenses I want to put on it, which module do I use? Do I need an adapter? What do I lose and what can I keep (A metering, AF? ) No clue. When I look at GXR mount A-12 for instance, I have no idea what A-12 stands for. Description says Universal mount handling Leica M lenses and more? Really? and more? What might the and more include? It's $500 and it isn't a lens. And it isn't a body. Then I see A12 lenses like the 28mm f2.5 for $540. Do I need the GXR mount A-12 in addition to this? I have a very low tolerance for feeling stupid (funny, since I feel that way most of the time) and products like this make me feel like I'm back in DOS land and have to crack the manual for every little thing or I get a syntax error. Not that I'm actually looking at the GXR, since I don't see how hit gains me a single thing over my K-5 ii. But if this is an example of how Ricoh is going to lead Pentax marketing to the Promised Land, let's just say I'm not holding my breath. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?
Oh, I was looking at pentaxforums prices and saw 1500. I swear pentaxforums reviews manipulate prices. So you are saying that the 400 is worth less? Interesting. I'd actually love to pick up a 400 even if it said sigma on it. Those lenses were supposedly very good and work well with matching TCs. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Non manufacturer 400s average $1500? Not on this planet. Paul via phone On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: Thanks - I'll let you know how it checks it. stan On Sep 11, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I'm with John on this one. Somebody ELSE can have THAT steal. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: KEH UG - Ugly Very rough looking. Multiple impressions in metal, excessive finish loss and brassing. Glass will have marks, fungus and/or haze which will affect picture quality.* which will affect picture quality says it all for me. It's not might affect picture quality, it's *WILL* affect picture quality. If KEH says it's only worth $90, I'll take their word for it. On 9/11/2013 3:37 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: They average $1500 used usually. $90 seems like quite the steal, ugly condition or not. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Non-Mfg-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK080090382060?r=FE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
