Re: K-100D vs K-30 -- Noise at high ISO?

2014-02-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 09:16:35PM -0500, Glen Berry wrote:
 This is going to be a difficult question to answer without showing
 comparison images, but can anyone give me some sort of idea how
 noisy a K-30 is, compared to the much older K-100D?

I went from a K100 to a K20 which was a small jump in high ISO performance
to a K-x which was a huge jump above that, to a K-5 which was another 
big jump.  Since the K-30 has the same sensor as the K-5 (I believe),
the big difference is the 12 vs 14 bit D/A, I expect that the improved
high ISO performance to be somewhere between mind blowing and orgasmic.

Dxomark shows the high ISO of the K30 in the same range as the
K5 and the Kx.
 
 One of the things that bugs me the most about the older cameras like
 the K-100D, is the very noticeable noise at higher ISO's. With every
 step above ISO 200, I can notice additional noise in the image. I
 think ISO 3200 is horrible.

Above about ISO 800 IIRC on the K100, they stop boosting the analog
gain and just use math to boost the ISO.  You might as well just 
underexpose at ISO 800.

 I've read comments from folks who had much newer DSLR's of various
 brands, and some of those folks seem content with ISO 3200 on THEIR
 camera, and I think I've even read a few mentions of folks being
 satisfied with ISO 6400 for certain applications.

With the K-5, I often shoot in excess of ISO 6400.  
This set of a burrowing owl was shot with the K-5 at ISO 10,000.

I consider it much better than merely satisfactory.

http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634684347823/


 
 So, how good is the K-30 with regards to high ISO noise, and try to
 compare it to an older model like the K-100D if you can. I'm hoping
 the K-30 will let me shoot a few stops higher ISO without
 sacrificing quality. Would that likely be correct?

If not an understatement.

 
 
 Thanks,
 Glen
 
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Re: K-100D vs K-30 -- Noise at high ISO?

2014-02-09 Thread Ciprian Dorin Craciun
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Glen Berry g...@glenvision.com wrote:
 So, how good is the K-30 with regards to high ISO noise, and try to compare
 it to an older model like the K-100D if you can. I'm hoping the K-30 will
 let me shoot a few stops higher ISO without sacrificing quality. Would that
 likely be correct?

I own a K-30, but unfortunately I can't compare it with anything
else, however I can tell you the following from my own year experience
with it:

* I don't see much difference between ISO 100, 200 or 400 in good
light;  (i.e. noiseless, thus no noise reduction;)
* for ISO 400 sometimes I need mild noise reduction, depending on the light;
* for ISO 800 I certainly need noise reduction, and the resulting
image looks clean;

* for ISO 1600 if the light is good, the case is similar with ISO 800;
* for ISO 1600 if I shoot at night, there is visible noise, and I
haven't yet mastered the RAW processing to eliminate it without making
the photo look plastic-y;

Higher than that I didn't need (I photograph mostly in daylight),
thus I can't say...


However take those above only as a data-point, maybe even an
outlier, because I'm a beginner, and I didn't manage to sort more
than 10% of my photos, of which I've post-processed only a fraction...

Hope it helps,
Ciprian.


P.S.:  If you buy a K-30 and get it with the 18-55 (WR) kit lens,
depending on how much you pay extra I would buy the body only, because
either way you need a better lens.  The 18-55 (WR) is quite soft in
the corners (regardless of aperture), and my estimation is that it
performs better only between 24 and 45...

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Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 9 Feb 2014, at 04:44, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 Contributing to the parity that Frank asked for, some art knudes.
 
 A friend wanted some nudes of himself, while we were at it, I handed the 
 camera to him and he shot a few of me.  Comments, critiques, or 
 ridicule as required.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157640707178243/
 
 Not safe for work.
 

I'll take your word for that, Larry, and go one step further in assuming that 
it's not safe for anywhere or anyone with eyes in their head.

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Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 09:58:57AM +, Bob W-PDML wrote:
 On 9 Feb 2014, at 04:44, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
  
  Contributing to the parity that Frank asked for, some art knudes.
  
  A friend wanted some nudes of himself, while we were at it, I handed the 
  camera to him and he shot a few of me.  Comments, critiques, or 
  ridicule as required.
  
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157640707178243/
  
  Not safe for work.
  
 
 I'll take your word for that, Larry, and go one step further in assuming that 
 it's not safe for anywhere or anyone with eyes in their head.

I don't know whether you were trying to be funny, or merely offensive.  
You failed at the former, but succeeded admirably at the latter.



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Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 9 Feb 2014, at 10:07, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 09:58:57AM +, Bob W-PDML wrote:
 On 9 Feb 2014, at 04:44, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 Contributing to the parity that Frank asked for, some art knudes.
 
 A friend wanted some nudes of himself, while we were at it, I handed the 
 camera to him and he shot a few of me.  Comments, critiques, or 
 ridicule as required.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157640707178243/
 
 Not safe for work.
 
 I'll take your word for that, Larry, and go one step further in assuming 
 that it's not safe for anywhere or anyone with eyes in their head.
 
 I don't know whether you were trying to be funny, or merely offensive.  
 You failed at the former, but succeeded admirably at the latter.

Lighten up!

B
 
 

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I'm Back

2014-02-09 Thread sup8pdct

I am back after traveling for almost 12 months.
Here is a map type of thingy of where we stayed during the trip, Some 
places were a day, some 2 weeks. Less then 4% were caravan parks. The 
rest was either national parks or free camping.


http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u626/sup8pdct/camps_zps3ec552b5.jpg

My wife broke her camera in a remote spot in the northwest region. It 
was either save the camera or save her face and serious injury. She 
refuses to put the strap around her neck as it annoys the living hell 
out or her, so she was carrying it. Her foot got caught on a rock while 
getting over a pile of rocks. The camera (K5) went sailing through the 
air and hit a rock ripping the lens mount clean off the body. I put it 
back on again when we got back to camp without joining the wire up and 
it still worked, tho no telling when the screws will rip out again with 
a big lens or a minor fall. Off to the camera repair place soon with it.
She also dropped it a few days earlier on to rocks. maybe that weakened 
it a little.
Mine is fine tho it took a tumble out of the 4X4 and broke the 77mm 
skylight filter on the 16-50 2.8. Again, the wife was at fault. tho i 
didn't put it back in the camera bag so will still blame her ;)


She is now asking 'can we go again, please?'

The trip wasn't long enough, but pressing matters like  seams to get 
in the way.
I took something like 10,000 images on the trip. One or two may be good 
enough to get somewhere in comps.


James


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Re: I'm Back

2014-02-09 Thread Stanley Halpin

On Feb 9, 2014, at 6:36 AM, sup8pdct sup8p...@clubtelco.com wrote:

 I am back after traveling for almost 12 months.
 Here is a map type of thingy of where we stayed during the trip, Some places 
 were a day, some 2 weeks. Less then 4% were caravan parks. The rest was 
 either national parks or free camping.
 
 http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u626/sup8pdct/camps_zps3ec552b5.jpg
 
 My wife broke her camera in a remote spot in the northwest region.
Ouch.
 ...
 She also dropped it a few days earlier on to rocks. …
Ouch.
 Mine is fine tho it took a tumble out of the 4X4 …
Ouch.
 ...
 The trip wasn't long enough, but pressing matters like  seams to get in 
 the way….
 

I think you need to take a portable camera-repair kit with you next time!
I look forward to seeing some of your shots. From the map it seems you did a 
thorough coverage of the country.

 
 James
 

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Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread knarf
I'm not sure why you're getting pissed off at me, Larry. I tried looking and 
really was interested at seeing your work. Still am. But at midnight, half 
asleep, I didn't feel like futzing around trying to remember my flickr user 
name and password or setting up another account.

I do appreciate that you're trying to balance things a bit, I really do. No one 
else seems to be doing that and I respect you for your efforts.

Hopefully I'll have a chance later today to convince Flickr to let me look.

Cheers,
frank

On 9 February, 2014 2:29:22 AM EST, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 11:57:15PM -0500, knarf wrote:
 You may want me to see them but Flickr doesn't. Not until I sign in
anyway. 

Fucking prudes.  

A while back I posted something a little bit racy to flickr, and
someone with
a splintery board stuck up their ass complained. I got a nastygram from
flickr
saying that the content had been labeled restricted, and if I posted
something
racy again without marking it moderate or restricted, my account would
be 
set permanently restricted.

I forget details, but I had to go and do something, then have someone
from
flickr check the offending page and make sure that it wouldn't shock
someone
with Victorian sensibilities.  

 
 I think I have a Flickr account but I haven't used it in so long I
can remember neither user name nor password. And I'm so lazy to create
a new account.

You're the one that was pissing and moaning about there always being
naked
women, and no naked men.

 
 Maybe tomorrow...

Fuck it.  Tomorrow I'll post pictures of a naked woman.

 
 Cheers,
 frank
 
 On 8 February, 2014 11:43:49 PM EST, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
wrote:
 Contributing to the parity that Frank asked for, some art knudes.
 
 A friend wanted some nudes of himself, while we were at it, I handed
 the 
 camera to him and he shot a few of me.  Comments, critiques, or 
 ridicule as required.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157640707178243/
 
 Not safe for work.
 
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Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread Bruce Walker
I bet a good night's sleep (and maybe an aspirin) will restore some
good humour and perspective to Larry. :-)

I've been forced recently to deal with the puzzle of how to publicly
publish image galleries with a degree of nudity in them. My
conclusion: put your gallery up on DropBox.


Each of the photography and art sites deals with nude and erotic
content differently but the most common method is to trap it behind a
wall that requires (a) sign-in and (b) individual viewers to opt-in to
displaying so-called restricted content. That applies to Flickr and
Behance. 500px will let a non-subscriber see a restricted image after
challenging him to click a disclaimer button. But free 500px accounts
cannot create galleries.

I'd be curious to hear what photo.net and smugmug do about public
display of nude/erotic content.

Facebook and similar solve the nudity issue by not allowing any, period.

So, upshot: put nude content on a server you control, and DropBox is a
reasonable alternative atm. Of course, on self-hosted content you may
still have to deal with your hosting service itself if somebody
complains. You'd have to read your service contract very closely.


On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 9:28 AM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm not sure why you're getting pissed off at me, Larry. I tried looking and 
 really was interested at seeing your work. Still am. But at midnight, half 
 asleep, I didn't feel like futzing around trying to remember my flickr user 
 name and password or setting up another account.

 I do appreciate that you're trying to balance things a bit, I really do. No 
 one else seems to be doing that and I respect you for your efforts.

 Hopefully I'll have a chance later today to convince Flickr to let me look.

 Cheers,
 frank

 On 9 February, 2014 2:29:22 AM EST, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 11:57:15PM -0500, knarf wrote:
 You may want me to see them but Flickr doesn't. Not until I sign in
anyway.

Fucking prudes.

A while back I posted something a little bit racy to flickr, and
someone with
a splintery board stuck up their ass complained. I got a nastygram from
flickr
saying that the content had been labeled restricted, and if I posted
something
racy again without marking it moderate or restricted, my account would
be
set permanently restricted.

I forget details, but I had to go and do something, then have someone
from
flickr check the offending page and make sure that it wouldn't shock
someone
with Victorian sensibilities.


 I think I have a Flickr account but I haven't used it in so long I
can remember neither user name nor password. And I'm so lazy to create
a new account.

You're the one that was pissing and moaning about there always being
naked
women, and no naked men.


 Maybe tomorrow...

Fuck it.  Tomorrow I'll post pictures of a naked woman.


 Cheers,
 frank

 On 8 February, 2014 11:43:49 PM EST, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
wrote:
 Contributing to the parity that Frank asked for, some art knudes.
 
 A friend wanted some nudes of himself, while we were at it, I handed
 the
 camera to him and he shot a few of me.  Comments, critiques, or
 ridicule as required.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157640707178243/
 
 Not safe for work.

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Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 9, 2014, at 1:58 AM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote:

 On 9 Feb 2014, at 04:44, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 Contributing to the parity that Frank asked for, some art knudes.
 
 A friend wanted some nudes of himself, while we were at it, I handed the 
 camera to him and he shot a few of me.  Comments, critiques, or 
 ridicule as required.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157640707178243/
 
 Not safe for work.
 
 I'll take your word for that, Larry, and go one step further in assuming that 
 it's not safe for anywhere or anyone with eyes in their head.

I think BobW was just being funny, with no intended offense. I looked—I'm both 
still breathing and still just made of cheese-whiz, not stone.  :-)

These three are the most appealing to me: 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12400286644/in/set-72157640707178243
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12400293024/in/set-72157640707178243
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12399986783/in/set-72157640707178243

The expressions … face and body language against the lighting and environment … 
that do it right. They're appealing without being either too 
romantic-squishy-sappy-arty or overtly erotic in intent. Good work!

The BW renderings seem a little sterile by comparison; something about the 
edge values being too sharp, the tone being too cold. The color renderings have 
a better 'feel' to my eye. 

Regards flickr.com and their rules… eh? No idea. I have no problem looking at 
nudes, either male or female. I have no problems looking at naked people 
either, although I'm not a big porn enthusiast (I just find it silly most of 
the time, not exciting or erotic, and some of it is just nasty crap). Lots of 
other folks seem to take this stuff way too seriously, which causes businesses 
like flickr.com to put all kinds of safeguards in place so they don't get sued. 

Back to abstractions I go …

G
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Re: PESO - Is It Spring Yet?

2014-02-09 Thread Bruce Walker
A long one for all of us, and it ain't even half over yet. They
contrast nicely with the landscape, Frank.

On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 11:40 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's been a long winter for these critters:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2014/02/whither-spring.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

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Re: K-100D vs K-30 -- Noise at high ISO?

2014-02-09 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sat, Feb 08, 2014, Glen Berry wrote:

 So, how good is the K-30 with regards to high ISO noise, and try to
 compare it to an older model like the K-100D if you can. I'm hoping
 the K-30 will let me shoot a few stops higher ISO without
 sacrificing quality. Would that likely be correct?

Yup!  But I strongly recommend trying out a K-30 before you buy it; I've
used a lot of different cameras (including the K-x and the K-5), and I
find the K-30 physically uncomfortable to hold (mainly because the grip
feels too hard, I think).
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Re: K3 Under pressure

2014-02-09 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sat, Feb 08, 2014, Bruce wrote:

 I don't have a K3 but I have had this type of problem quite often with
 my K5.  Basically when shooting rapidly (single shots) during soccer
 games, I have the camera lockup.  It seems related to the shutter
 release and some other operation (focus or something) and then it
 locks up.  The electronics stay on but it will not fire the shutter
 anymore.  The only solution is to remove the battery.  It doesn't seem
 related to a particular battery (Pentax or generic).  I wonder if
 there is any relationship.

That's what happened to me with a K-5 II as well (although I think I was
shooting bracketed).
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Re: K3 Under pressure

2014-02-09 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sun, Feb 09, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote:

 That sucks. Rob, can it possibly have to do with heat?

Considering that my similar experience with a K-5 II happened while I
was freezing outdoors in Alaska, I don't think so...

(Just to be clear, not literally freezing, although it was quite chilly
and windy.)
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Re: K-100D vs K-30 -- Noise at high ISO?

2014-02-09 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Glen Berry g...@glenvision.com wrote:

 I'm hoping the K-30 will
 let me shoot a few stops higher ISO without sacrificing quality. Would that
 likely be correct?

Yes, unequivocally.

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Re: I'm Back

2014-02-09 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 9 Feb 2014, at 11:38, sup8pdct sup8p...@clubtelco.com wrote:
 
 I am back after traveling for almost 12 months.
 Here is a map type of thingy of where we stayed during the trip, Some places 
 were a day, some 2 weeks. Less then 4% were caravan parks. The rest was 
 either national parks or free camping.
 
 http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u626/sup8pdct/camps_zps3ec552b5.jpg
 

That's pretty impressive. I'd love to take whole year off to travel. Can't 
quote afford it though.

B


 My wife broke her camera in a remote spot in the northwest region. It was 
 either save the camera or save her face and serious injury. She refuses to 
 put the strap around her neck as it annoys the living hell out or her, so she 
 was carrying it. Her foot got caught on a rock while getting over a pile of 
 rocks. The camera (K5) went sailing through the air and hit a rock ripping 
 the lens mount clean off the body. I put it back on again when we got back to 
 camp without joining the wire up and it still worked, tho no telling when the 
 screws will rip out again with a big lens or a minor fall. Off to the camera 
 repair place soon with it.
 She also dropped it a few days earlier on to rocks. maybe that weakened it a 
 little.
 Mine is fine tho it took a tumble out of the 4X4 and broke the 77mm skylight 
 filter on the 16-50 2.8. Again, the wife was at fault. tho i didn't put it 
 back in the camera bag so will still blame her ;)
 
 She is now asking 'can we go again, please?'
 
 The trip wasn't long enough, but pressing matters like  seams to get in 
 the way.
 I took something like 10,000 images on the trip. One or two may be good 
 enough to get somewhere in comps.
 
 James
 
 
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PESO Grace and her Grandma

2014-02-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
K-3 with DA* 50-135/2.8, ISO 8000, f4 @ 1.50th, +0.3 exposure comp, 135mm focal 
length. Grandma doesn’t like cameras, so to get a pic I usually have to shoot 
from another room. Grace, of course, spotted me, but that worked out well, IMO. 
No noise reduction. I find that a bit of noise in BW can be a plus.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17677650size=lg
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Re: I'm Back

2014-02-09 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Feb 9, 2014, at 6:36 AM, sup8pdct sup8p...@clubtelco.com wrote:

 I am back after traveling for almost 12 months.
 Here is a map type of thingy of where we stayed during the trip, Some places 
 were a day, some 2 weeks. Less then 4% were caravan parks. The rest was 
 either national parks or free camping.
 
 http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u626/sup8pdct/camps_zps3ec552b5.jpg

Awesome. Looking forward to the photos.
 
 My wife broke her camera in a remote spot in the northwest region. It was 
 either save the camera or save her face and serious injury. She refuses to 
 put the strap around her neck as it annoys the living hell out or her, so she 
 was carrying it.

Two words: Black Rapid


 Her foot got caught on a rock while getting over a pile of rocks. The camera 
 (K5) went sailing through the air and hit a rock ripping the lens mount clean 
 off the body. I put it back on again when we got back to camp without joining 
 the wire up and it still worked, tho no telling when the screws will rip out 
 again with a big lens or a minor fall. Off to the camera repair place soon 
 with it.
 She also dropped it a few days earlier on to rocks. maybe that weakened it a 
 little.
 Mine is fine tho it took a tumble out of the 4X4 and broke the 77mm skylight 
 filter on the 16-50 2.8. Again, the wife was at fault. tho i didn't put it 
 back in the camera bag so will still blame her ;)
 
 She is now asking 'can we go again, please?'
 
 The trip wasn't long enough, but pressing matters like  seams to get in 
 the way.
 I took something like 10,000 images on the trip. One or two may be good 
 enough to get somewhere in comps.
 
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Re: PESO Grace and her Grandma

2014-02-09 Thread David J Brooks
excellent

On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 K-3 with DA* 50-135/2.8, ISO 8000, f4 @ 1.50th, +0.3 exposure comp, 135mm 
 focal length. Grandma doesn't like cameras, so to get a pic I usually have to 
 shoot from another room. Grace, of course, spotted me, but that worked out 
 well, IMO. No noise reduction. I find that a bit of noise in BW can be a plus.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17677650size=lg
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Re: I'm Back

2014-02-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote:
 On 9 Feb 2014, at 11:38, sup8pdct sup8p...@clubtelco.com wrote:

 I am back after traveling for almost 12 months.
 Here is a map type of thingy of where we stayed during the trip, Some places 
 were a day, some 2 weeks. Less then 4% were caravan parks. The rest was 
 either national parks or free camping.

 http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u626/sup8pdct/camps_zps3ec552b5.jpg


 That's pretty impressive. I'd love to take whole year off to travel. Can't 
 quote afford it though.

What if you went every other day then.

Dave

 B


 My wife broke her camera in a remote spot in the northwest region. It was 
 either save the camera or save her face and serious injury. She refuses to 
 put the strap around her neck as it annoys the living hell out or her, so 
 she was carrying it. Her foot got caught on a rock while getting over a pile 
 of rocks. The camera (K5) went sailing through the air and hit a rock 
 ripping the lens mount clean off the body. I put it back on again when we 
 got back to camp without joining the wire up and it still worked, tho no 
 telling when the screws will rip out again with a big lens or a minor fall. 
 Off to the camera repair place soon with it.
 She also dropped it a few days earlier on to rocks. maybe that weakened it a 
 little.
 Mine is fine tho it took a tumble out of the 4X4 and broke the 77mm skylight 
 filter on the 16-50 2.8. Again, the wife was at fault. tho i didn't put it 
 back in the camera bag so will still blame her ;)

 She is now asking 'can we go again, please?'

 The trip wasn't long enough, but pressing matters like  seams to get in 
 the way.
 I took something like 10,000 images on the trip. One or two may be good 
 enough to get somewhere in comps.

 James


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Re: I'm Back

2014-02-09 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 9 Feb 2014, at 17:39, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote:
 On 9 Feb 2014, at 11:38, sup8pdct sup8p...@clubtelco.com wrote:
 
 I am back after traveling for almost 12 months.
 Here is a map type of thingy of where we stayed during the trip, Some 
 places were a day, some 2 weeks. Less then 4% were caravan parks. The rest 
 was either national parks or free camping.
 
 http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u626/sup8pdct/camps_zps3ec552b5.jpg
 
 That's pretty impressive. I'd love to take whole year off to travel. Can't 
 quote afford it though.
 
 What if you went every other day then.
 

why didn't I ever think of that?

b 
 Dave
 
 B
 
 
 My wife broke her camera in a remote spot in the northwest region. It was 
 either save the camera or save her face and serious injury. She refuses to 
 put the strap around her neck as it annoys the living hell out or her, so 
 she was carrying it. Her foot got caught on a rock while getting over a 
 pile of rocks. The camera (K5) went sailing through the air and hit a rock 
 ripping the lens mount clean off the body. I put it back on again when we 
 got back to camp without joining the wire up and it still worked, tho no 
 telling when the screws will rip out again with a big lens or a minor fall. 
 Off to the camera repair place soon with it.
 She also dropped it a few days earlier on to rocks. maybe that weakened it 
 a little.
 Mine is fine tho it took a tumble out of the 4X4 and broke the 77mm 
 skylight filter on the 16-50 2.8. Again, the wife was at fault. tho i 
 didn't put it back in the camera bag so will still blame her ;)
 
 She is now asking 'can we go again, please?'
 
 The trip wasn't long enough, but pressing matters like  seams to get in 
 the way.
 I took something like 10,000 images on the trip. One or two may be good 
 enough to get somewhere in comps.
 
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Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 8/2/14, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

Contributing to the parity that Frank asked for, some art knudes.

A friend wanted some nudes of himself, while we were at it, I handed the 
camera to him and he shot a few of me.  Comments, critiques, or 
ridicule as required.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157640707178243/

Not safe for work.

Interesting!

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Re: PESO 2014 - 047 - GDG

2014-02-09 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 8/2/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

Saturday morning walk time. A bit damp and dim this morning.

...and that's just the photographer ;-)


  http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7326/12392807645_8617f926da_o.jpg

Love it. Trees mimic each other, and the colours work really well. Top job.




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Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread Jeffery Johnson
No pun intended I am sure Cotty. And Larry I am surprised you didn't 
have rope burn.


On 2/9/2014 11:50 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 8/2/14, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:


Contributing to the parity that Frank asked for, some art knudes.

A friend wanted some nudes of himself, while we were at it, I handed the
camera to him and he shot a few of me.  Comments, critiques, or
ridicule as required.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157640707178243/

Not safe for work.

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Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
flickr is apparently down:” “We’re aware of the problems and are fixing them.
On Feb 9, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Jeffery Johnson jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net 
wrote:

 No pun intended I am sure Cotty. And Larry I am surprised you didn't have 
 rope burn.
 
 On 2/9/2014 11:50 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
 On 8/2/14, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Contributing to the parity that Frank asked for, some art knudes.
 
 A friend wanted some nudes of himself, while we were at it, I handed the
 camera to him and he shot a few of me.  Comments, critiques, or
 ridicule as required.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157640707178243/
 
 Not safe for work.
 Interesting!
 
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Re: Question: Skiing and Photography

2014-02-09 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Rick:

A bit behind on PDML.  Vertical reference point very helpful as is metering 
point.  Thanks!
The point about cold and falling on camera gear—figured that one out!  :-)

Big thanks, Rick.  Cheers, Christine



On Feb 2, 2014, at 8:39 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Christine,
 
 Once upon a time (in the film era) I spent a week every winter for about 18 
 years doing lots of ski shooting--lessons, open skiing, races.
 
 I used a Super Program at first, then a PZ-1 and PZ-1p.
 
 Observations, in no particular order:
 - Jeez, it is COLD when you're standing at the side of a slope (e.g. shooting 
 races), not skiing.
 - Practice handling your camera with gloves before you're out on the slopes.  
 Things feel different.
 - I took a 70-210 or 80-320 in a fanny pack to minimize bulk and maximize 
 accessibility.  
 - Anything throws one's balance off, though, so one must ski carefully when 
 carrying the camera stuff.  Falling on a camera hurts both the camera and 
 oneself.
 - One's natural tendency is to make the ground level in the frame, which 
 makes it appear as though the slope isn't very steep (even when it is).  So 
 finding a vertical reference and paying attention to it will produce more 
 dramatic shots.
 - Snow is remarkably bright; so shooting with wide latitiude (print film 
 then, low ISO now) is good for bringing out details in the subjects later.
 
 Have fun!
 
 Rick
 
 On Feb 1, 2014, at 5:00 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
 
 That's an excellent suggestion, Ken.  Friends I'm with could body-mount it 
 too for some fun video and narrative. Thanks!  Cheers, Christine 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Feb 1, 2014, at 3:09 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 
 Christine, you might give some thought to POV video. GoPros are very easy 
 to use, have many different mounts (chest, head and helmet) and produce 
 very good video.
 
 I used mine during my sled dog race and the video came out better than any 
 stills I could have taken with out stopping.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
 - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
 Subject: Re: Question: Skiing and Photography
 
 
 On 1 Feb 2014, at 16:56, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 
 Hi Everyone:
 
 If you were to do a photo shoot of a ski outting, what might be your kit, 
 preparation and strategy, and safety issues?  Obviously, a photographer 
 wouldn’t want to just wait at the bottom of the hill for shots of folks 
 coming down the hill.  How would you keep your kit safe when maneuvering 
 along the hill?
 
 Any tips and strategies from any PDML Skier-Photogs?
 
 I’m not planning a ski shoot this season, but maybe next season.
 
 I went skiing a few years ago with one of my brothers and his family, who 
 are very good skiers. It's the only time I've skiied. It was the film era 
 and I was using a Contax with Zeiss lenses. When I was skiing I left them 
 at my brother's house - I had no wish to have that stuff on me while 
 skiing, it was likely to be dangerous. On some days I didn't ski, and took 
 the camera kit in a Domke F-2, went up the ski lift with them and found 
 some spots where I could get different views of them on the way down, them 
 some shots of one of my nephews boarding.
 
 I took a full range of lenses, from a 300mm to a 21mm. I took incident 
 light readings with my hand shading the underside of the meter so that the 
 snow would come out right.
 
 Here's a page I've just put up. Low-res scans to CD.
 
 http://www.web-options.com/Skiing/
 
 The best shot is the one of my nephew jumping off a low bank - that's with 
 a 21mm lens (35mm camera). Most of the shots are very samey, although I 
 expect someone with more experience would much better.
 
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Re: I'm Back

2014-02-09 Thread P.J. Alling

Gee, that was a big camp if it took up all of Australia.

On 2/9/2014 6:36 AM, sup8pdct wrote:

I am back after traveling for almost 12 months.
Here is a map type of thingy of where we stayed during the trip, Some 
places were a day, some 2 weeks. Less then 4% were caravan parks. The 
rest was either national parks or free camping.


http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u626/sup8pdct/camps_zps3ec552b5.jpg

My wife broke her camera in a remote spot in the northwest region. It 
was either save the camera or save her face and serious injury. She 
refuses to put the strap around her neck as it annoys the living hell 
out or her, so she was carrying it. Her foot got caught on a rock 
while getting over a pile of rocks. The camera (K5) went sailing 
through the air and hit a rock ripping the lens mount clean off the 
body. I put it back on again when we got back to camp without joining 
the wire up and it still worked, tho no telling when the screws will 
rip out again with a big lens or a minor fall. Off to the camera 
repair place soon with it.
She also dropped it a few days earlier on to rocks. maybe that 
weakened it a little.
Mine is fine tho it took a tumble out of the 4X4 and broke the 77mm 
skylight filter on the 16-50 2.8. Again, the wife was at fault. tho i 
didn't put it back in the camera bag so will still blame her ;)


She is now asking 'can we go again, please?'

The trip wasn't long enough, but pressing matters like  seams to 
get in the way.
I took something like 10,000 images on the trip. One or two may be 
good enough to get somewhere in comps.


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Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread Bruce Walker
Larry broke it real good.

On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 flickr is apparently down:” “We’re aware of the problems and are fixing them.
 On Feb 9, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Jeffery Johnson jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net 
 wrote:

 No pun intended I am sure Cotty. And Larry I am surprised you didn't have 
 rope burn.

 On 2/9/2014 11:50 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
 On 8/2/14, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Contributing to the parity that Frank asked for, some art knudes.

 A friend wanted some nudes of himself, while we were at it, I handed the
 camera to him and he shot a few of me.  Comments, critiques, or
 ridicule as required.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157640707178243/

 Not safe for work.
 Interesting!

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RE: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread Bob W
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 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker
 
 Larry broke it real good.
 

All he had to do was take his trousers off and the whole thing went down on him.

B

 On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
 wrote:
  flickr is apparently down:” “We’re aware of the problems and are fixing
 them.
  On Feb 9, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Jeffery Johnson
 jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
  No pun intended I am sure Cotty. And Larry I am surprised you didn't have
 rope burn.
 
  On 2/9/2014 11:50 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
  On 8/2/14, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
  Contributing to the parity that Frank asked for, some art knudes.
 
  A friend wanted some nudes of himself, while we were at it, I
  handed the camera to him and he shot a few of me.  Comments,
  critiques, or ridicule as required.
 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157640707178243/
 
  Not safe for work.
  Interesting!
 
  You've got to have balls to do that.
 
 
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Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread Paul Stenquist


Paul via phone

On Feb 9, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker
 
 Larry broke it real good.
 
 All he had to do was take his trousers off and the whole thing went down on 
 him.
 B
 
Huh??
 On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 flickr is apparently down:” “We’re aware of the problems and are fixing
 them.
 On Feb 9, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Jeffery Johnson
 jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 No pun intended I am sure Cotty. And Larry I am surprised you didn't have
 rope burn.
 
 On 2/9/2014 11:50 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
 On 8/2/14, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Contributing to the parity that Frank asked for, some art knudes.
 
 A friend wanted some nudes of himself, while we were at it, I
 handed the camera to him and he shot a few of me.  Comments,
 critiques, or ridicule as required.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157640707178243/
 
 Not safe for work.
 Interesting!
 
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Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Back up. Nice work.

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 On Feb 9, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Larry broke it real good.
 
 On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 flickr is apparently down:” “We’re aware of the problems and are fixing 
 them.
 On Feb 9, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Jeffery Johnson jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net 
 wrote:
 
 No pun intended I am sure Cotty. And Larry I am surprised you didn't have 
 rope burn.
 
 On 2/9/2014 11:50 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
 On 8/2/14, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Contributing to the parity that Frank asked for, some art knudes.
 
 A friend wanted some nudes of himself, while we were at it, I handed the
 camera to him and he shot a few of me.  Comments, critiques, or
 ridicule as required.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157640707178243/
 
 Not safe for work.
 Interesting!
 
 You've got to have balls to do that.
 
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Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 09:28:54AM -0500, knarf wrote:
 I'm not sure why you're getting pissed off at me, Larry. I tried looking and 
 really was interested at seeing your work. Still am. But at midnight, half 
 asleep, I didn't feel like futzing around trying to remember my flickr user 
 name and password or setting up another account.

Sorry Frank, I wasn't pissed off at you, I was pissed off at the
people so afraid of seeing a little bit of skin that they make
things a pain in the ass for everyone else.  


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Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 10:17:16AM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote:
 I bet a good night's sleep (and maybe an aspirin) will restore some
 good humour and perspective to Larry. :-)

Sorry folks.  I'm a bit stressed out over various things going
on in my life, so I guess that after a long day my fuse was 
a little bit short.

 
 I've been forced recently to deal with the puzzle of how to publicly
 publish image galleries with a degree of nudity in them. My
 conclusion: put your gallery up on DropBox.

I had to deal with dropbox for something for a friend once. It
was a pain in the ass, but I suppose that it's better than using 
my own bandwidth to host things on my own server.

 
 
 Each of the photography and art sites deals with nude and erotic
 content differently but the most common method is to trap it behind a
 wall that requires (a) sign-in and (b) individual viewers to opt-in to
 displaying so-called restricted content. That applies to Flickr and
 Behance. 500px will let a non-subscriber see a restricted image after
 challenging him to click a disclaimer button. But free 500px accounts
 cannot create galleries.

It also occured to me that this way flickr can force people to 
get flickr accounts, using dirty pictures as an incentive.



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PESO : A White Caravan

2014-02-09 Thread Bulent Celasun
From today's walk...

http://celasun.wordpress.com/2014/02/09/beyaz-karavan/

The words below the image reads:

White...
A start?
An end?

(These cryptic looking lines are meant to serve as a message to someone).

Comments appreciated :)

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Re: GESO: Musical Enablement (4 images)

2014-02-09 Thread Walt Gilbert

Thanks for the tips, John.

I don't know that I'd ever get a true-blue Tele twang given the pickup 
configuration and the difference between the contemporary and original 
wide-range humbuckers without using digital effects -- which is one of 
the things I really like about the Orange amps. And even using the 
effects, it would likely only be a reasonable approximation, I guess. 
But, to my ear at least, it gets pretty close as-is -- close enough that 
the average joe wouldn't be able to tell the difference.


One of the things I've always liked about Teles is their versatility -- 
and this one has that in spades. I'm getting some really great crunch in 
overdrive that I haven't heard from standard Tele configurations, and a 
fair amount of twang when playing the bridge pickup when I pick closer 
to the bridge.


I wish I had the money to drop on a more expensive amp -- hell, I'd have 
a Marshall double-stack and a full array of stomp boxes if I had the 
resources. I may invest in something a little more upscale down the 
road, but for the time being, the Orange seems to suit my needs pretty 
well. Though, I will be sure to look into the more affordable Fender 
amps you mentioned.


The sad fact of the matter is that I'll likely never be good enough a 
player to play a gig before an audience that could distinguish between 
the sound I'm putting out and that of a standard Tele setup played in 
the bridge position. But, if I ever do get that good, maybe I'll be able 
to afford one of those Vox amps -- and I'll let you play through it any 
time you want. :)


-- Walt



On 2/8/2014 3:15 PM, John wrote:

Lately, I really like the Blackstar line of combo amps. I bought a HT-1R
as a travel  practice amp. It's plenty loud even at 1 Watt.

I think both companies (Orange  Blackstar) were founded by former
Marshall techs.

Thing is, I don't think either of them offers the kind of country
twang that the Telecaster is really famous for.

If that's what you want, you're probably going to want to find a Fender
amp to go with it. Fender made quite a few 40w tube combo amps over the
years. I like the Vibrolux Reverb myself, but they're getting hard to
find  kind of pricy.

But you can find the Hot Rod Deluxe  Blues Deluxe amps at reasonable
prices. The only drawbacks I'm aware of with them is that some complain
the PC Board design has flimsy mounts for the pots  jacks.

OTOH, my current amplifier holy grail:

http://www.sanyo-densi.com/dai2/power_amp/vox_ac15tb2.htm

... which are currently somewhat scarcer than hens teeth.


On 2/8/2014 1:13 PM, Walt wrote:

Thank you, Chris!

I'm hoping the 35-watt Orange will do the trick. I was really impressed
with the 20-watt version of it when I played through it at the guitar
shop. Right now, I'm playing through a Behringer -- which is OK, but not
great.

-- Walt

On 2/8/2014 3:15 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

Milly looks lovely Walt. With the right amp, she will sound great too.

Chris

On 6 February 2014 00:12, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

After much waiting and angst-ridden anticipation, my '72 Fender
Telecaster
Thinline Reissue arrived today.

Meet Millie:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157640557765545/

Next, the Orange PiX CR35LDX combo amp, which I hope to get next week
when I
finally get paid for the wedding I photographed a couple of weeks ago.

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Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread Larry Colen

On Feb 9, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote:

 On Feb 9, 2014, at 1:58 AM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
 On 9 Feb 2014, at 04:44, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 Contributing to the parity that Frank asked for, some art knudes.
 
 A friend wanted some nudes of himself, while we were at it, I handed the 
 camera to him and he shot a few of me.  Comments, critiques, or 
 ridicule as required.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157640707178243/
 
 Not safe for work.
 
 I'll take your word for that, Larry, and go one step further in assuming 
 that it's not safe for anywhere or anyone with eyes in their head.
 
 I think BobW was just being funny, with no intended offense. I looked—I'm 
 both still breathing and still just made of cheese-whiz, not stone.  :-)

Yeah, I’ve been strung a little tight lately, and being too tired to stay up 
and too stressed to go to sleep does not improve my disposition.



 
 These three are the most appealing to me: 
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12400286644/in/set-72157640707178243
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12400293024/in/set-72157640707178243
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12399986783/in/set-72157640707178243
 
 The expressions … face and body language against the lighting and environment 
 … that do it right. They're appealing without being either too 
 romantic-squishy-sappy-arty or overtly erotic in intent. Good work!
 

Thanks.

 The BW renderings seem a little sterile by comparison; something about the 
 edge values being too sharp, the tone being too cold. The color renderings 
 have a better 'feel' to my eye. 
 

Thanks for the feedback,  I just posted color versions of the BW.

 Regards flickr.com and their rules… eh? No idea. I have no problem looking at 
 nudes, either male or female. I have no problems looking at naked people 
 either, although I'm not a big porn enthusiast (I just find it silly most of 
 the time, not exciting or erotic, and some of it is just nasty crap). Lots of 
 other folks seem to take this stuff way too seriously, which causes 
 businesses like flickr.com to put all kinds of safeguards in place so they 
 don't get sued. 
 

Or so that they can get more signed up members (for whatever definition of 
member) and theoretically improve their bottom line.

Speaking of bottom lines, the only thing more effective than nude photos of 
one’s self to see how out of shape you are is trying to do gymnastics when 
hanging from a rope.

 Back to abstractions I go …

For me, it ought to be the gym.

 
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Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread Larry Colen

On Feb 9, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 
 
 Paul via phone
 
 On Feb 9, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
 -Original Message-
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker
 
 Larry broke it real good.
 
 All he had to do was take his trousers off and the whole thing went down on 
 him.
 B
 
 Huh??

Bob tried to make another joke, but blew it.




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Re: PESO : A White Caravan

2014-02-09 Thread Bob W-PDML
Nice shot of a nice landscape.

B

 On 9 Feb 2014, at 20:19, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From today's walk...
 
 http://celasun.wordpress.com/2014/02/09/beyaz-karavan/
 
 The words below the image reads:
 
 White...
 A start?
 An end?
 
 (These cryptic looking lines are meant to serve as a message to someone).
 
 Comments appreciated :)
 
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Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 9 Feb 2014, at 20:27, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 
 On Feb 9, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 
 
 Paul via phone
 
 On Feb 9, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
 -Original Message-
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker
 
 Larry broke it real good.
 
 All he had to do was take his trousers off and the whole thing went down on 
 him.
 B
 Huh??
 
 Bob tried to make another joke, but blew it.

I find that rather hard to swallow.

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Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Feb 9, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 
 On Feb 9, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 
 
 Paul via phone
 
 On Feb 9, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
 -Original Message-
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker
 
 Larry broke it real good.
 
 All he had to do was take his trousers off and the whole thing went down on 
 him.
 B
 
 Huh??
 
 Bob tried to make another joke, but blew it.

Well that sucks.
 
 
 
 
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PESO Granny Glasses

2014-02-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
K-3, DA* 50-135/2.8, ISO 8000

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17678162size=lg

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PESO 2014 - 048 - GDG

2014-02-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Don't know how many times I've seen this in a window nearby. Finally I had the 
right camera with me, ready to make the exposure.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12419166154/

Thanks for looking. Comments always appreciated. 

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Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread Steve Cottrell

 Larry broke it real good.
 
 All he had to do was take his trousers off and the whole thing went
down on him.
 B
 
 Huh??
 
 Bob tried to make another joke, but blew it.

Well that sucks.

Enough of this oral really let loose


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Re: PESO 2014 - 048 - GDG

2014-02-09 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 9/2/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12419166154/

Thanks for looking. Comments always appreciated. 

Works nicely for me. I know that feeling well, seeing something many
times, incidentally, and then suddenly it happens at the right time and
place ;-)

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Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread Larry Colen
African or European?

On February 9, 2014 12:31:46 PM PST, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote:
On 9 Feb 2014, at 20:27, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 
 On Feb 9, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Paul Stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 
 
 Paul via phone
 
 On Feb 9, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
 -Original Message-
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce
Walker
 
 Larry broke it real good.
 
 All he had to do was take his trousers off and the whole thing went
down on him.
 B
 Huh??
 
 Bob tried to make another joke, but blew it.

I find that rather hard to swallow.

B
 
 

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RE: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
 
 African or European?
 

I don't know, but between the two of them they had a lovely bunch of
coconuts

B

 On February 9, 2014 12:31:46 PM PST, Bob W-PDML pdml@web-
 options.com wrote:
 On 9 Feb 2014, at 20:27, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 
  On Feb 9, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Paul Stenquist
 pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 
 
  Paul via phone
 
  On Feb 9, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
  -Original Message-
  From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce
 Walker
 
  Larry broke it real good.
 
  All he had to do was take his trousers off and the whole thing went
 down on him.
  B
  Huh??
 
  Bob tried to make another joke, but blew it.
 
 I find that rather hard to swallow.
 
 B


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Rim lighting on a budget

2014-02-09 Thread Bruce Walker
I just published an article on how I got the specific lighting look
for my recent model with flexible aluminum tubing shots using a
couple of really cheap flashes and DIY barn doors.

http://blog.brucemwalker.com/2014/02/effective-rim-lighting-on-budget.html

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Re: Rim lighting on a budget

2014-02-09 Thread Larry Colen

On Feb 9, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just published an article on how I got the specific lighting look
 for my recent model with flexible aluminum tubing shots using a
 couple of really cheap flashes and DIY barn doors.
 
 http://blog.brucemwalker.com/2014/02/effective-rim-lighting-on-budget.html

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Re: PESO -- University 5-5030

2014-02-09 Thread John

I haven't seen one of those since 1965.

On 2/8/2014 6:11 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20University5-5030.html


Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited

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Re: K3 Under pressure

2014-02-09 Thread John

On 2/9/2014 11:13 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Sat, Feb 08, 2014, Bruce wrote:


I don't have a K3 but I have had this type of problem quite often with
my K5.  Basically when shooting rapidly (single shots) during soccer
games, I have the camera lockup.  It seems related to the shutter
release and some other operation (focus or something) and then it
locks up.  The electronics stay on but it will not fire the shutter
anymore.  The only solution is to remove the battery.  It doesn't seem
related to a particular battery (Pentax or generic).  I wonder if
there is any relationship.


That's what happened to me with a K-5 II as well (although I think I was
shooting bracketed).



I was wondering if shooting bursts in single shot mode might be
over-taxing the electronics associated with the shutter release button?

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Re: GESO: Musical Enablement (4 images)

2014-02-09 Thread John

On 2/9/2014 3:23 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Thanks for the tips, John.

I don't know that I'd ever get a true-blue Tele twang given the pickup
configuration and the difference between the contemporary and original
wide-range humbuckers without using digital effects -- which is one of
the things I really like about the Orange amps. And even using the
effects, it would likely only be a reasonable approximation, I guess.
But, to my ear at least, it gets pretty close as-is -- close enough that
the average joe wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

One of the things I've always liked about Teles is their versatility --
and this one has that in spades. I'm getting some really great crunch in
overdrive that I haven't heard from standard Tele configurations, and a
fair amount of twang when playing the bridge pickup when I pick closer
to the bridge.

I wish I had the money to drop on a more expensive amp -- hell, I'd have
a Marshall double-stack and a full array of stomp boxes if I had the
resources. I may invest in something a little more upscale down the
road, but for the time being, the Orange seems to suit my needs pretty
well. Though, I will be sure to look into the more affordable Fender
amps you mentioned.

The sad fact of the matter is that I'll likely never be good enough a
player to play a gig before an audience that could distinguish between
the sound I'm putting out and that of a standard Tele setup played in
the bridge position. But, if I ever do get that good, maybe I'll be able
to afford one of those Vox amps -- and I'll let you play through it any
time you want. :)

-- Walt




You  me both.

I'll never be a good enough player to be worthy of the instruments I've
accumulated over the years. I'm a good enough strummer to accompany
myself when I sing, and just barely a good enough singer I don't
embarrass my guitar playing. That won't stop me from buying a good
guitar if I can finagle the necessary funds.

I never set out to collect guitars, I just bought the ones I wanted to
play whenever I could.

I've got a 1997 Japanese Telecaster Thinline (not Squire, not re-issue)
 it *will* give you the twang if you want it. I've been playing since
1964  I've had time along the way to accumulate a few amps. I was using
a Vibrolux Reverb (40W 2x10) before I got the Blackstar last year. I've
had issues since my cancer surgery  I wanted something that didn't
require as much effort to lift.

Mostly I play acoustic with friends at coffee houses and only the
occasional electric jam at somebody's house, so I don't need that much
power ... and 1W between 7 - 9 actually gives better tone than 40W
between 1 - 2.

I've gotten to where I don't really lust after the big amp anymore. If I
was going to play anywhere I felt I needed the likes of a full-stack,
I'd expect them to have a sound system  a sound guy who knows how to
mic a 40W 2x10 for best effect.

Currently, I'm thinking about getting a bass. I'm waiting to see whether
I'll have enough surplus funds after paying taxes this year.

... and since I've now finished paying for the Leslie amp/speaker I
bought last summer, I find myself perusing Craigslist for the search
term Hammond. No bargains good enough to make me consider opening my
wallet, but it doesn't cost anything to look.




On 2/8/2014 3:15 PM, John wrote:

Lately, I really like the Blackstar line of combo amps. I bought a HT-1R
as a travel  practice amp. It's plenty loud even at 1 Watt.

I think both companies (Orange  Blackstar) were founded by former
Marshall techs.

Thing is, I don't think either of them offers the kind of country
twang that the Telecaster is really famous for.

If that's what you want, you're probably going to want to find a Fender
amp to go with it. Fender made quite a few 40w tube combo amps over the
years. I like the Vibrolux Reverb myself, but they're getting hard to
find  kind of pricy.

But you can find the Hot Rod Deluxe  Blues Deluxe amps at reasonable
prices. The only drawbacks I'm aware of with them is that some complain
the PC Board design has flimsy mounts for the pots  jacks.

OTOH, my current amplifier holy grail:

http://www.sanyo-densi.com/dai2/power_amp/vox_ac15tb2.htm

... which are currently somewhat scarcer than hens teeth.


On 2/8/2014 1:13 PM, Walt wrote:

Thank you, Chris!

I'm hoping the 35-watt Orange will do the trick. I was really impressed
with the 20-watt version of it when I played through it at the guitar
shop. Right now, I'm playing through a Behringer -- which is OK, but not
great.

-- Walt

On 2/8/2014 3:15 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

Milly looks lovely Walt. With the right amp, she will sound great too.

Chris

On 6 February 2014 00:12, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

After much waiting and angst-ridden anticipation, my '72 Fender
Telecaster
Thinline Reissue arrived today.

Meet Millie:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157640557765545/

Next, the Orange PiX CR35LDX combo amp, which I hope to get next week
when I
finally get paid 

Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread John

On 2/9/2014 2:29 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 11:57:15PM -0500, knarf wrote:

You may want me to see them but Flickr doesn't. Not until I sign in anyway.


Fucking prudes.



Not at all. They just want to be sure you are knowingly choosing to view
the nude images.

Since I have to sign in to Yahoo to read PDML, I'm already signed in to
Flickr. All I had to do was click a button acknowledging that the
images weren't safe search and that I wanted to see them anyway.

Flickr's verification process is antiquated.

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Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread John

I think he meant Flickr for requiring sign in.

On 2/9/2014 9:28 AM, knarf wrote:

I'm not sure why you're getting pissed off at me, Larry. I tried
looking and really was interested at seeing your work. Still am. But
at midnight, half asleep, I didn't feel like futzing around trying to
remember my flickr user name and password or setting up another
account.

I do appreciate that you're trying to balance things a bit, I really
do. No one else seems to be doing that and I respect you for your
efforts.

Hopefully I'll have a chance later today to convince Flickr to let me
look.

Cheers, frank

On 9 February, 2014 2:29:22 AM EST, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
wrote:

On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 11:57:15PM -0500, knarf wrote:

You may want me to see them but Flickr doesn't. Not until I sign
in

anyway.

Fucking prudes.

A while back I posted something a little bit racy to flickr, and
someone with a splintery board stuck up their ass complained. I got
a nastygram from flickr saying that the content had been labeled
restricted, and if I posted something racy again without marking it
moderate or restricted, my account would be set permanently
restricted.

I forget details, but I had to go and do something, then have
someone from flickr check the offending page and make sure that it
wouldn't shock someone with Victorian sensibilities.



I think I have a Flickr account but I haven't used it in so long
I

can remember neither user name nor password. And I'm so lazy to
create a new account.

You're the one that was pissing and moaning about there always
being naked women, and no naked men.



Maybe tomorrow...


Fuck it.  Tomorrow I'll post pictures of a naked woman.



Cheers, frank

On 8 February, 2014 11:43:49 PM EST, Larry Colen
l...@red4est.com

wrote:

Contributing to the parity that Frank asked for, some art
knudes.

A friend wanted some nudes of himself, while we were at it, I
handed the camera to him and he shot a few of me.  Comments,
critiques, or ridicule as required.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157640707178243/

Not safe for work.


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Re: knaked men for knarf

2014-02-09 Thread John

On 2/9/2014 3:26 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Feb 9, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:




Paul via phone

On Feb 9, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:


-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker

Larry broke it real good.


All he had to do was take his trousers off and the whole thing went down on him.
B


Huh??


Bob tried to make another joke, but blew it.






Now you're getting in the swing of things.

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Re: Rim lighting on a budget

2014-02-09 Thread John

On 2/9/2014 6:08 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

I just published an article on how I got the specific lighting look
for my recent model with flexible aluminum tubing shots using a
couple of really cheap flashes and DIY barn doors.

http://blog.brucemwalker.com/2014/02/effective-rim-lighting-on-budget.html



When I was running the photolab, every box of paper had two 8x8 
cardboard spacers. I think they were meant to keep someone opening the 
box with a box cutter (even though they were clearly labeled NOT to use 
a box cutter to open them) from slicing into the bag that protected the 
paper from exposure to light.


I collected all of those spacers to use as flags  gobos. Single ply 
corrugated cardboard easily spray painted if you need black or white and 
easily shaped with a utility knife.


Still got lots of them left.

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Re: PESO -- University 5-5030

2014-02-09 Thread Rick Womer
Evergreen 2-5548, when I was very young.

I like the shot a lot. 

I think one could crop the lower right a bit more tightly, so as to eliminate 
the distracting whatever-it-is (phone book? museum label?).

Cheers,

Rick

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Re: PESO -- University 5-5030

2014-02-09 Thread knarf
Riverside 4-4243

Cheers,
frank, dating himself

On 9 February, 2014 9:27:49 PM EST, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
Evergreen 2-5548, when I was very young.

I like the shot a lot. 

I think one could crop the lower right a bit more tightly, so as to
eliminate the distracting whatever-it-is (phone book? museum label?).

Cheers,

Rick

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Re: K3 Under pressure

2014-02-09 Thread Bruce
Bursts may be a problem.  I do have it set to multi shot but only firing single 
shots rather quickly.  I'll have to pay more attention and see if I can narrow 
it down anymore.  It doesn't seem to be the pre-curser to a permanent problem 
as it has happened throughout the life of the body.  It's shot count is about 
74,000 right now.

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Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 9, 2014, at 4:39 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 On 2/9/2014 11:13 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 08, 2014, Bruce wrote:
 
 I don't have a K3 but I have had this type of problem quite often with
 my K5.  Basically when shooting rapidly (single shots) during soccer
 games, I have the camera lockup.  It seems related to the shutter
 release and some other operation (focus or something) and then it
 locks up.  The electronics stay on but it will not fire the shutter
 anymore.  The only solution is to remove the battery.  It doesn't seem
 related to a particular battery (Pentax or generic).  I wonder if
 there is any relationship.
 
 That's what happened to me with a K-5 II as well (although I think I was
 shooting bracketed).
 
 
 I was wondering if shooting bursts in single shot mode might be
 over-taxing the electronics associated with the shutter release button?
 
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Re: K3 Under pressure

2014-02-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Well, I see. I should point out that I have no clue as to how conductive 
of heat are the internals of the Pentax cameras and how heat conductive 
is the outer shell.


I was merely suggesting that if too many shots were shot and it 
overheated, and somehow the sub-system that was supposed to notice that 
malfunctioned, it could have lead to the described behavior - the camera 
would take a shot, but down the imaging pipe it would refuse to write it 
to card (which by the way is significant source of heat, if I am not 
mistaken).


Never happened to any of my Pentax cameras, yet.

On 2/9/2014 6:15 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Sun, Feb 09, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote:


That sucks. Rob, can it possibly have to do with heat?


Considering that my similar experience with a K-5 II happened while I
was freezing outdoors in Alaska, I don't think so...

(Just to be clear, not literally freezing, although it was quite chilly
and windy.)




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PESO 2014 - 049 - GDG

2014-02-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Walking back to my car on Saturday morning, the skies were slowly clearing ... 

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12428362353/

Thanks for looking. Comments always appreciated. 

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Re: PESO 2014 - 049 - GDG

2014-02-09 Thread Bruce
A pleasant photo.  I like it ,

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  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12428362353/
 
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Re: I'm Back

2014-02-09 Thread sup8pdct

On 9/02/2014 11:36 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
I look forward to seeing some of your shots. From the map it seems you 
did a thorough coverage of the country.

stan

Hardly. Still lots of places to visit yet.

James

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Re: I'm Back

2014-02-09 Thread sup8pdct

On 10/02/2014 2:43 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote:


That's pretty impressive. I'd love to take whole year off to travel. Can't 
quote afford it though.



We rented the house out to help pay for trip...

James

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