Re: PESO -- University 5-5030

2014-02-20 Thread Joseph McAllister
My father's phone number in Junior College in Phoenix in 1929 was "403" as 
listed in the phone directory.

On Feb 14, 2014, at 06:28 , Joseph McAllister wrote:

> CEdar 5 - 2206  (Wellesley MA 1950s)
> 
> On Feb 9, 2014, at 19:37 , knarf wrote:
> 
>> Riverside 4-4243
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> frank, dating himself
>> 
>> On 9 February, 2014 9:27:49 PM EST, Rick Womer  wrote:
>>> Evergreen 2-5548, when I was very young.
>>> 
>>> I like the shot a lot. 
>>> 
>>> I think one could crop the lower right a bit more tightly, so as to
>>> eliminate the distracting whatever-it-is (phone book? museum label?).
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2014, at 18:11 , P.J. Alling wrote:
>>> 
 
>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20University5-5030.html
 
 Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited
 
 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
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Re: PESO - Real Canadians Wearing Real Hats, Feb. 20/14

2014-02-20 Thread Ken Waller

Cute capture Frank.

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- Original Message - 
From: "knarf" 

Subject: PESO - Real Canadians Wearing Real Hats, Feb. 20/14


I met this delightful creature down on Lakeshore Blvd. today. Loved her pig 
hat and she was happy to have me photograph it:


http://realcanadianhats.blogspot.ca/2014/02/blog-post.html?m=1

Haven't had a post to the Real Canadians/Real Hats blog in a while. I 
think I'll look for Canadian Olympic Hats tomorrow.


Hope you enjoy this one. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank
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Re: OT: "Shche ne vmerla Ukraina" (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)

2014-02-20 Thread Ken Waller

That's really beyond the purview of this list.


What knarF said !

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- Original Message - 
From: "knarf" 

Subject: Re: OT: "Shche ne vmerla Ukraina" (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)


I know what the situation is. I merely said that the sand artist video that 
I found didn't explain anything.


I don't really want to get into why things are happening there. That's 
really beyond the purview of this list.


People are dying there and it's disgusting.

Cheers,
frank

On 20 February, 2014 2:40:15 PM EST, Paul Stenquist 
 wrote:


On Feb 20, 2014, at 2:31 PM, knarf  wrote:


There are a bunch of them. I didn't see any that get into what's

going on in the Ukraine.

The protests began when President Yanukovych ruled out an accord with
the European Union and instead moved to form a close alliance with
Russia and Putin. Many Ukranians, apparently, would rather be part of
the union than a Russian puppet state. They’ve been occupying the
square for a long time, but the demonstrations have now spread,
probably because with the olympics taking place not far from there,
they get more exposure. It’s an ugly situation, but most westerners,
myself included, tend to come down on the people’s side and favor the
Ukraine as an European Union state rather than a Russian ally. It may
be politics, but it’s not something that list members are likely to get
emotional about, other than lamenting a bad situation.

Paul


Interesting art form though and she's quite good at it.

Cheers,
frank

On 20 February, 2014 2:06:12 PM EST, mike wilson

 wrote:

Search for "Ukraine has talent" and choose the one featuring Kseniya
Simonov.

On 20/02/2014, knarf  wrote:

Unfortunately that video is blocked in Canada (or at least on

android

in

Canada).



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PESO - Real Canadians Wearing Real Hats, Feb. 20/14

2014-02-20 Thread knarf
I met this delightful creature down on Lakeshore Blvd. today. Loved her pig hat 
and she was happy to have me photograph it:

http://realcanadianhats.blogspot.ca/2014/02/blog-post.html?m=1

Haven't had a post to the Real Canadians/Real Hats blog in a while. I think 
I'll look for Canadian Olympic Hats tomorrow.

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Re: PESO - Ghost Train

2014-02-20 Thread David Mann
Barbecued on the boiler.

Cheers,
Dave

On Feb 20, 2014, at 8:49 pm, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

> Where's the beef?
> 
>> On 20 Feb 2014, at 06:01, "Marco Alpert"  wrote:
>> 
>> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo14/peso4.html
>> 
>> Comments, as  always,  welcomed.


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Re: OT: "Shche ne vmerla Ukraina" (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)

2014-02-20 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2014-02-20 13:27, knarf wrote:


I don't pretend to know the answers.


If I had answers, someone would've stoned me to death by now.


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PESO: Freddy

2014-02-20 Thread David Mann
Here's another historic one from the Commonwealth tour of Australia.

This is apparently Freddy.  I'm not sure if he's about to boil the billy for 
the delegation's tea, or maybe he's getting ready to cook a couple of koalas 
for lunch.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/768/#peso

I thought I'd finished all of the scanning yesterday (there are 72 in total).  
Now It looks like I'm going to have to re-scan half of them because the scanner 
software was lying to me about the white point.  Never had that issue on the 
Mac version :(

Cheers,
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PESO - February Meltdown

2014-02-20 Thread Mark C
We have had a great bout of warm weather and rain, which had knocked the 
snow accumulation back quite a bit. Snapshot of the sidewalk in front of 
my house this evening, taken while I was clearing way the slush -


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/february-melt-down

This is just a temporary lull as we will be back into the cool temps in 
a couple of days, but I like seeing the snow banks drop by a foot or two 
in a single day!


Mark

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Re: Matyolans

2014-02-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Fascinating. All excellent, but 6 is classic.

Paul
On Feb 20, 2014, at 6:53 PM, Bob W  wrote:

> Following Dan's history of his ancestors I thought people might be interested 
> to see (again) some of the pictures I took when I visited Romania a few years 
> ago. This small set includes several that I took during a walk in the hills 
> and valleys along the Ukrainian border, in Maramures county - Ruthenia, in 
> fact.
> 
> I had lost track of these, which were the first slides I ever scanned hence 
> the suboptimal quality and size, but found them recently when consolidating 
> files from several old computers and putting everything in the cloud.
> 
> https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=439D213A93634DD4!11050&authkey=!AIJHFd6Pu7HCJvM&ithint=folder%2c.jpg
> 
> B
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Re: Matyolans

2014-02-20 Thread Marco Alpert
All of them are great, but image9 is particularly evocative.

   - Marco

On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Bob W wrote:

> Following Dan's history of his ancestors I thought people might be interested 
> to see (again) some of the pictures I took when I visited Romania a few years 
> ago. This small set includes several that I took during a walk in the hills 
> and valleys along the Ukrainian border, in Maramures county - Ruthenia, in 
> fact.
> 
> I had lost track of these, which were the first slides I ever scanned hence 
> the suboptimal quality and size, but found them recently when consolidating 
> files from several old computers and putting everything in the cloud.
> 
> https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=439D213A93634DD4!11050&authkey=!AIJHFd6Pu7HCJvM&ithint=folder%2c.jpg
> 
> B


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Re: Matyolans

2014-02-20 Thread Bruce Walker
Those are great, Bob.

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> Following Dan's history of his ancestors I thought people might be interested 
> to see (again) some of the pictures I took when I visited Romania a few years 
> ago. This small set includes several that I took during a walk in the hills 
> and valleys along the Ukrainian border, in Maramures county - Ruthenia, in 
> fact.
>
> I had lost track of these, which were the first slides I ever scanned hence 
> the suboptimal quality and size, but found them recently when consolidating 
> files from several old computers and putting everything in the cloud.
>
> https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=439D213A93634DD4!11050&authkey=!AIJHFd6Pu7HCJvM&ithint=folder%2c.jpg
>
> B
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Matyolans

2014-02-20 Thread Bob W
Following Dan's history of his ancestors I thought people might be interested 
to see (again) some of the pictures I took when I visited Romania a few years 
ago. This small set includes several that I took during a walk in the hills and 
valleys along the Ukrainian border, in Maramures county - Ruthenia, in fact.

I had lost track of these, which were the first slides I ever scanned hence the 
suboptimal quality and size, but found them recently when consolidating files 
from several old computers and putting everything in the cloud.

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=439D213A93634DD4!11050&authkey=!AIJHFd6Pu7HCJvM&ithint=folder%2c.jpg

B

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RE: PESO Pool Hall Portrait/K-3 low-light work

2014-02-20 Thread John Coyle
Great shot Paul - and she is still a striking-looking woman!


John Coyle
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Subject: PESO Pool Hall Portrait/K-3 low-light work

Finally had a chance to shoot with the K-3 in the dim light of the pool hall. 
Very pleased. The
camera was able to lock focus in dark corners and noise level looks good at ISO 
12,800. Just started
processing, but I was immediately drawn to this host of a woman shooter sizing 
up her shot. She's a
forty-something mother of teenagers and quite attractive. K-3, DA* 50-135/2.8, 
f4 @ 1/50th, ISO
12,800, 135mm focal length.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17689333&size=lg
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Re: OT: Events in Ukraine WARNING -- Political Content

2014-02-20 Thread Bruce Walker
What Paul said. I learned some good stuff there, Dan. I'll have to ask
my Ukrainian dancing model and neighbor Iryna what she thinks about it
all.

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Thanks for the illuminating history lesson, Dan. An excellent synopsis. I 
> hope it ends well, but it’s hard to see that happening.
> On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>
>> For Frank and any others interested in events in the Ukraine, this is
>> my personal and biased perspective.
>>
>> Ukraine is the land of my father's ancestors, although the area from
>> which they came was in Hungary, rather than Ukraine, when they lived
>> there and when they emigrated.   The did not consider themselves
>> Ukrainians, by Rusyns, or Carpatho-Ruthenians.  The seized by the
>> Soviet Union during WW II, and later incorporated into the Ukrainian
>> SSR.
>>
>> There are large cultural, language, religious and ethnic differences
>> between the Western and Eastern parts of Ukraine.   Zakarpattia, Lviv
>> and most of the West had long been part of Europe, and now sees its
>> future in the European community.  The eastern and southern parts of
>> Ukraine have large Russian minorities, and historically and culturally
>> have always been linked with Russia.  The split goes back several
>> centuries, and will not be easily resolved.  There are also religious
>> differences, with the Rusyns being Byzantine Rite Catholics, the
>> Western Ukrainians Ukrainian Orthodox Christians, and the Eastern
>> Ukrainians and Russians live in Ukraine Russian Orthodox.  The
>> services of all three churches look and sound very similar, but there
>> are cultural and theological differences.
>>
>> The current situation has deep historical roots.  When the Swedish
>> Viking Rurik founded Rus, or Russia, in 864, he ruled from Novgorod,
>> which then and now was the most European part of Russia.  His
>> successor, Oleg, moved his capital to Kiev in 882, better to control
>> the trade route to Constantinople.  Kiev became one of the largest and
>> most beautiful cities in Europe, and the grand prince ruled most of
>> Russia directly or indirectly from Kiev for four centuries.  It was
>> the religious, cultural, artistic and political heart of Russia.
>>
>> In 1223, the Mongols invaded Kievan Rus.  Resistance proved futile,
>> but Novgorod and Kiev struggled more than the other cities to keep the
>> Mongols and their Tatar allies at bay.  For 250 years, Russia was
>> dominated by the Mongols, and no one could rule as "Grand Prince of
>> all the Rus" without permission from the Golden Horde.  The princes of
>> Moscow proved most adept at placating the Mongols and acting as their
>> tax collectors, resulting in a shift of power away from Kiev and to
>> Yaroslav, and then Moscow.  Kiev was attacked and sacked in 1240,
>> first by the Muscovite armies and then by the main Mongol army.  The
>> city was burned, and only 2,000 of its 40,000 residents survived.
>> Most of the buildings were leveled, and visitors described what was
>> left as a field of bones.  The remnants of the people of Kievan Rus
>> mostly fled west and north to the Carpathian foothills.  Their
>> civilization disappeared, replaced by a more autocratic, militaristic
>> and hedonistic Muscovy.
>>
>> The territory around Kiev was mostly empty.  The Muscovites, to erase
>> the memory of old Kievan Rus, named it the Ukraine, meaning the
>> frontier or borderland.  The area around Kiev was repopulated by
>> Muscovites, Tatars, and free peasants and runaway serfs, later known
>> as Cossacks.  The western part of the Kievan territory was too far
>> from Moscow to control, and soon fell under the control of Hungary and
>> Austria.  The people there remained Orthodox, although isolated and
>> abandoned by the fall of Constantinople and the move of the Russian
>> patriarch to Moscow.  After the 30 Years' War, their Orthodox religion
>> became illegal, but their church was allowed to continue their former
>> liturgy and practices by becoming the Uniate Church directly under
>> Rome (now the Byzantine Rite or Greek Catholic Church).
>>
>> As a result, the people living in what is now the Western part of
>> Ukraine have long been ethnically, religiously and culturally quite
>> different from those in the Eastern and Southern parts, which have
>> always been dominated by Moscow.  The Soviet Union restructured the
>> map of Eastern Europe after WW II, creating the present boundaries of
>> Ukraine.  As long as the Ukrainian SSR was part of the Soviet Union,
>> all "Ukrainians" were oppressed and tightly controlled by the
>> government and the Communist Party.  Millions of them died of
>> starvation and other causes, and they had a common enemy and therefore
>> common interests.  With the fall of Communism, Ukrainian nationalism
>> demanded and received independence for the country.  Democracy seemed
>> to flourish for a while, but the economic transition was difficult,
>> and the Ru

Re: PESO - Read!

2014-02-20 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 20 Feb 2014, at 17:35, "knarf"  wrote:
> 
> Correct. 
> 
> I was inadvertently ambiguous. 
> 
> I meant "there's nothing like a good bookstore".
> 
> It was intended to be a positive statement.
> 
> Time does fly like an arrow.

Does a deer?

B


> 
> Cheers,
> frank
> 
>> On 19 February, 2014 2:34:22 PM EST, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>>> On 19 Feb 2014, at 17:48, "Igor Roshchin"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bruce, it's a fun shot.
>>> 
>>> A few thoughts/comments:
>>> 1. It insipred me to post a PESO (see the message I sent a few
>> minutes
>>> ago.
>>> 
>>> 2. The same way as in my photos (in that PESO), you have reflections,
>>> which are, I guess from the ceiling lights.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Wed Feb 19 06:41:28 EST 2014
>>> knarf wrote:
 Nothing like a real bookshop.
>>> 
>>> 3. Why? I've seen plenty of bookstores like this.
>> 
>> Frank's comment is ambiguous. 
>> 
>> I think he means 'there is nothing like a good bookshop' - a positive
>> reaction. 
>> 
>> It could also be read as 'that is nothing like a good bookshop' - a
>> negative reaction.
>> 
>> Time flies like an arrow.
>> 
>> B
>> 
>>> Of course, the books on the side shelves do not look like what you
>> see 
>>> in the big chain stores (B&N). But you frequently see that in the
>> independent
>>> stores. One that I remember is St. Mark's Bookshop near Astor Place
>>> on 3rd Ave in New York. This is close to Ann, I am sure she knows
>> this
>>> store.
>>> http://goo.gl/NBqpFM
>>> 
>>> Another one that comes to mind is the one that we visited with Rob in
>>> Sydney. (I have photos somewhere, but not on the web.)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Igor
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 19 February, 2014 5:18:10 AM EST, Bruce Walker >> gmail.com> wrote:
 Another one dug out of my unposted archive ...
 
 http://flic.kr/p/keBNv9
 
 Seen in Dencan Books and Magazines, The Junction, Toronto.
 
 K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 16mm/f:16, 6 tenths sec shutter, ISO 200;
>> tripod
 Lr
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Re: PESO Pool Hall Portrait/K-3 low-light work

2014-02-20 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Paul:  Excellent results using the K3 at these settings.  K3 performs well 
in your very capable photog hands, Paul!  Cheers, Christine 


On Feb 20, 2014, at 9:02 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> Finally had a chance to shoot with the K-3 in the dim light of the pool hall. 
> Very pleased. The camera was able to lock focus in dark corners and noise 
> level looks good at ISO 12,800. Just started processing, but I was 
> immediately drawn to this host of a woman shooter sizing up her shot. She’s a 
> forty-something mother of teenagers and quite attractive. K-3, DA* 
> 50-135/2.8, f4 @ 1/50th, ISO 12,800, 135mm focal length.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17689333&size=lg
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Re: OT: Events in Ukraine WARNING -- Political Content

2014-02-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks for the illuminating history lesson, Dan. An excellent synopsis. I hope 
it ends well, but it’s hard to see that happening. 
On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

> For Frank and any others interested in events in the Ukraine, this is
> my personal and biased perspective.
> 
> Ukraine is the land of my father's ancestors, although the area from
> which they came was in Hungary, rather than Ukraine, when they lived
> there and when they emigrated.   The did not consider themselves
> Ukrainians, by Rusyns, or Carpatho-Ruthenians.  The seized by the
> Soviet Union during WW II, and later incorporated into the Ukrainian
> SSR.
> 
> There are large cultural, language, religious and ethnic differences
> between the Western and Eastern parts of Ukraine.   Zakarpattia, Lviv
> and most of the West had long been part of Europe, and now sees its
> future in the European community.  The eastern and southern parts of
> Ukraine have large Russian minorities, and historically and culturally
> have always been linked with Russia.  The split goes back several
> centuries, and will not be easily resolved.  There are also religious
> differences, with the Rusyns being Byzantine Rite Catholics, the
> Western Ukrainians Ukrainian Orthodox Christians, and the Eastern
> Ukrainians and Russians live in Ukraine Russian Orthodox.  The
> services of all three churches look and sound very similar, but there
> are cultural and theological differences.
> 
> The current situation has deep historical roots.  When the Swedish
> Viking Rurik founded Rus, or Russia, in 864, he ruled from Novgorod,
> which then and now was the most European part of Russia.  His
> successor, Oleg, moved his capital to Kiev in 882, better to control
> the trade route to Constantinople.  Kiev became one of the largest and
> most beautiful cities in Europe, and the grand prince ruled most of
> Russia directly or indirectly from Kiev for four centuries.  It was
> the religious, cultural, artistic and political heart of Russia.
> 
> In 1223, the Mongols invaded Kievan Rus.  Resistance proved futile,
> but Novgorod and Kiev struggled more than the other cities to keep the
> Mongols and their Tatar allies at bay.  For 250 years, Russia was
> dominated by the Mongols, and no one could rule as "Grand Prince of
> all the Rus" without permission from the Golden Horde.  The princes of
> Moscow proved most adept at placating the Mongols and acting as their
> tax collectors, resulting in a shift of power away from Kiev and to
> Yaroslav, and then Moscow.  Kiev was attacked and sacked in 1240,
> first by the Muscovite armies and then by the main Mongol army.  The
> city was burned, and only 2,000 of its 40,000 residents survived.
> Most of the buildings were leveled, and visitors described what was
> left as a field of bones.  The remnants of the people of Kievan Rus
> mostly fled west and north to the Carpathian foothills.  Their
> civilization disappeared, replaced by a more autocratic, militaristic
> and hedonistic Muscovy.
> 
> The territory around Kiev was mostly empty.  The Muscovites, to erase
> the memory of old Kievan Rus, named it the Ukraine, meaning the
> frontier or borderland.  The area around Kiev was repopulated by
> Muscovites, Tatars, and free peasants and runaway serfs, later known
> as Cossacks.  The western part of the Kievan territory was too far
> from Moscow to control, and soon fell under the control of Hungary and
> Austria.  The people there remained Orthodox, although isolated and
> abandoned by the fall of Constantinople and the move of the Russian
> patriarch to Moscow.  After the 30 Years' War, their Orthodox religion
> became illegal, but their church was allowed to continue their former
> liturgy and practices by becoming the Uniate Church directly under
> Rome (now the Byzantine Rite or Greek Catholic Church).
> 
> As a result, the people living in what is now the Western part of
> Ukraine have long been ethnically, religiously and culturally quite
> different from those in the Eastern and Southern parts, which have
> always been dominated by Moscow.  The Soviet Union restructured the
> map of Eastern Europe after WW II, creating the present boundaries of
> Ukraine.  As long as the Ukrainian SSR was part of the Soviet Union,
> all "Ukrainians" were oppressed and tightly controlled by the
> government and the Communist Party.  Millions of them died of
> starvation and other causes, and they had a common enemy and therefore
> common interests.  With the fall of Communism, Ukrainian nationalism
> demanded and received independence for the country.  Democracy seemed
> to flourish for a while, but the economic transition was difficult,
> and the Russian minority and some Eastern Ukrainians began to long for
> the good old days of the USSR.
> 
> Straddling the fence between East and West has always been difficult,
> and often impossible.  That has proven to be the case again.  Russia
> became alarmed at the way Ukraine ha

Re: PESO - Elle (one for Derby)

2014-02-20 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks, Paul!

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Beautiful girl. Nicely photographed.
>
> Paul
> On Feb 20, 2014, at 2:33 PM, knarf  wrote:
>
>> She has the best name ever.
>>
>> Love the pose/expression. Beautiful light.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> frank
>>
>> On 19 February, 2014 5:30:31 PM EST, Bruce Walker  
>> wrote:
>>> A shot from my very first studio workshop session back in 2012 with
>>> model Elle Bunny. I filed a whole bunch like this until my retouching
>>> skills matured.
>>>
>>> I know that Elle's a big fave of Derby, so if you're out there, this
>>> one's for you buddy ... :-)
>>>
>>> http://flic.kr/p/kgddsJ
>>>
>>> K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ f/8, 125th, ISO 200; Lr + Ps
>>> Bowens strobes in 3x4' softboxes left and right -- you can't miss 'em
>>> :-)
>>>
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Re: PESO - Elle (one for Derby)

2014-02-20 Thread Bruce Walker
Thank you, Frank. She, by the way, waitressed part-time at the Gallery
Cafe near you.

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:33 PM, knarf  wrote:
> She has the best name ever.
>
> Love the pose/expression. Beautiful light.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
> On 19 February, 2014 5:30:31 PM EST, Bruce Walker  
> wrote:
>>A shot from my very first studio workshop session back in 2012 with
>>model Elle Bunny. I filed a whole bunch like this until my retouching
>>skills matured.
>>
>>I know that Elle's a big fave of Derby, so if you're out there, this
>>one's for you buddy ... :-)
>>
>>http://flic.kr/p/kgddsJ
>>
>>K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ f/8, 125th, ISO 200; Lr + Ps
>>Bowens strobes in 3x4' softboxes left and right -- you can't miss 'em
>>:-)
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Re: OT: "Shche ne vmerla Ukraina" (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)

2014-02-20 Thread knarf
I know what the situation is. I merely said that the sand artist video that I 
found didn't explain anything. 

I don't really want to get into why things are happening there. That's really 
beyond the purview of this list.

People are dying there and it's disgusting. 

Cheers,
frank

On 20 February, 2014 2:40:15 PM EST, Paul Stenquist  
wrote:
>
>On Feb 20, 2014, at 2:31 PM, knarf  wrote:
>
>> There are a bunch of them. I didn't see any that get into what's
>going on in the Ukraine. 
>
>The protests began when President Yanukovych ruled out an accord with
>the European Union and instead moved to form a close alliance with
>Russia and Putin. Many Ukranians, apparently, would rather be part of
>the union than a Russian puppet state. They’ve been occupying the
>square for a long time, but the demonstrations have now spread,
>probably because with the olympics taking place not far from there,
>they get more exposure. It’s an ugly situation, but most westerners, 
>myself included, tend to come down on the people’s side and favor the
>Ukraine as an European Union state rather than a Russian ally. It may
>be politics, but it’s not something that list members are likely to get
>emotional about, other than lamenting a bad situation.
>
>Paul
>> 
>> Interesting art form though and she's quite good at it.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> frank
>> 
>> On 20 February, 2014 2:06:12 PM EST, mike wilson
> wrote:
>>> Search for "Ukraine has talent" and choose the one featuring Kseniya
>>> Simonov.
>>> 
>>> On 20/02/2014, knarf  wrote:
 Unfortunately that video is blocked in Canada (or at least on
>android
>>> in
 Canada).
 
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Re: OT: Events in Ukraine WARNING -- Political Content

2014-02-20 Thread Bulent Celasun
Thanks Dan,

The post was illuminating.

It seems that there is more pain ahead...

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2014-02-20 22:05 GMT+02:00 Daniel J. Matyola :
> For Frank and any others interested in events in the Ukraine, this is
> my personal and biased perspective.
>
> Ukraine is the land of my father's ancestors, although the area from
> which they came was in Hungary, rather than Ukraine, when they lived
> there and when they emigrated.   The did not consider themselves
> Ukrainians, by Rusyns, or Carpatho-Ruthenians.  The seized by the
> Soviet Union during WW II, and later incorporated into the Ukrainian
> SSR.
>
> There are large cultural, language, religious and ethnic differences
> between the Western and Eastern parts of Ukraine.   Zakarpattia, Lviv
> and most of the West had long been part of Europe, and now sees its
> future in the European community.  The eastern and southern parts of
> Ukraine have large Russian minorities, and historically and culturally
> have always been linked with Russia.  The split goes back several
> centuries, and will not be easily resolved.  There are also religious
> differences, with the Rusyns being Byzantine Rite Catholics, the
> Western Ukrainians Ukrainian Orthodox Christians, and the Eastern
> Ukrainians and Russians live in Ukraine Russian Orthodox.  The
> services of all three churches look and sound very similar, but there
> are cultural and theological differences.
>
> The current situation has deep historical roots.  When the Swedish
> Viking Rurik founded Rus, or Russia, in 864, he ruled from Novgorod,
> which then and now was the most European part of Russia.  His
> successor, Oleg, moved his capital to Kiev in 882, better to control
> the trade route to Constantinople.  Kiev became one of the largest and
> most beautiful cities in Europe, and the grand prince ruled most of
> Russia directly or indirectly from Kiev for four centuries.  It was
> the religious, cultural, artistic and political heart of Russia.
>
> In 1223, the Mongols invaded Kievan Rus.  Resistance proved futile,
> but Novgorod and Kiev struggled more than the other cities to keep the
> Mongols and their Tatar allies at bay.  For 250 years, Russia was
> dominated by the Mongols, and no one could rule as "Grand Prince of
> all the Rus" without permission from the Golden Horde.  The princes of
> Moscow proved most adept at placating the Mongols and acting as their
> tax collectors, resulting in a shift of power away from Kiev and to
> Yaroslav, and then Moscow.  Kiev was attacked and sacked in 1240,
> first by the Muscovite armies and then by the main Mongol army.  The
> city was burned, and only 2,000 of its 40,000 residents survived.
> Most of the buildings were leveled, and visitors described what was
> left as a field of bones.  The remnants of the people of Kievan Rus
> mostly fled west and north to the Carpathian foothills.  Their
> civilization disappeared, replaced by a more autocratic, militaristic
> and hedonistic Muscovy.
>
> The territory around Kiev was mostly empty.  The Muscovites, to erase
> the memory of old Kievan Rus, named it the Ukraine, meaning the
> frontier or borderland.  The area around Kiev was repopulated by
> Muscovites, Tatars, and free peasants and runaway serfs, later known
> as Cossacks.  The western part of the Kievan territory was too far
> from Moscow to control, and soon fell under the control of Hungary and
> Austria.  The people there remained Orthodox, although isolated and
> abandoned by the fall of Constantinople and the move of the Russian
> patriarch to Moscow.  After the 30 Years' War, their Orthodox religion
> became illegal, but their church was allowed to continue their former
> liturgy and practices by becoming the Uniate Church directly under
> Rome (now the Byzantine Rite or Greek Catholic Church).
>
> As a result, the people living in what is now the Western part of
> Ukraine have long been ethnically, religiously and culturally quite
> different from those in the Eastern and Southern parts, which have
> always been dominated by Moscow.  The Soviet Union restructured the
> map of Eastern Europe after WW II, creating the present boundaries of
> Ukraine.  As long as the Ukrainian SSR was part of the Soviet Union,
> all "Ukrainians" were oppressed and tightly controlled by the
> government and the Communist Party.  Millions of them died of
> starvation and other causes, and they had a common enemy and therefore
> common interests.  With the fall of Communism, Ukrainian nationalism
> demanded and received independence for the country.  Democracy seemed
> to flourish for a while, but the economic transition was difficult,
> and the Russian minority and some Eastern Ukrainians began to long for
> th

Re: OT: "Shche ne vmerla Ukraina" (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)

2014-02-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Yes, Paul, but Ukrainians are emotional people.  

The song I quoted in my original post is now the Ukrainian national
anthem.  It is 150 years old.  The original version contained a verse
that makes it quite clear who the enemy is and always has been:


"Oh Bohdan, Bohdan
Our great hetman
What for did you give Ukraine
To wretched muscovites?!
To return her honor,
We lay our heads
We shall call ourselves Ukraine's
Faithful sons!

Souls and bodies we'll lay down, all for our freedom,
And we'll show that we, brothers, are of the Cossack nation!"

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>
> On Feb 20, 2014, at 2:31 PM, knarf  wrote:
>
>> There are a bunch of them. I didn't see any that get into what's going on in 
>> the Ukraine.
>
> The protests began when President Yanukovych ruled out an accord with the 
> European Union and instead moved to form a close alliance with Russia and 
> Putin. Many Ukranians, apparently, would rather be part of the union than a 
> Russian puppet state. They’ve been occupying the square for a long time, but 
> the demonstrations have now spread, probably because with the olympics taking 
> place not far from there, they get more exposure. It’s an ugly situation, but 
> most westerners,  myself included, tend to come down on the people’s side and 
> favor the Ukraine as an European Union state rather than a Russian ally. It 
> may be politics, but it’s not something that list members are likely to get 
> emotional about, other than lamenting a bad situation.
>
> Paul
>>
>> Interesting art form though and she's quite good at it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> frank
>>
>> On 20 February, 2014 2:06:12 PM EST, mike wilson  
>> wrote:
>>> Search for "Ukraine has talent" and choose the one featuring Kseniya
>>> Simonov.
>>>
>>> On 20/02/2014, knarf  wrote:
 Unfortunately that video is blocked in Canada (or at least on android
>>> in
 Canada).

>>
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>>
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OT: Events in Ukraine WARNING -- Political Content

2014-02-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
For Frank and any others interested in events in the Ukraine, this is
my personal and biased perspective.

Ukraine is the land of my father's ancestors, although the area from
which they came was in Hungary, rather than Ukraine, when they lived
there and when they emigrated.   The did not consider themselves
Ukrainians, by Rusyns, or Carpatho-Ruthenians.  The seized by the
Soviet Union during WW II, and later incorporated into the Ukrainian
SSR.

There are large cultural, language, religious and ethnic differences
between the Western and Eastern parts of Ukraine.   Zakarpattia, Lviv
and most of the West had long been part of Europe, and now sees its
future in the European community.  The eastern and southern parts of
Ukraine have large Russian minorities, and historically and culturally
have always been linked with Russia.  The split goes back several
centuries, and will not be easily resolved.  There are also religious
differences, with the Rusyns being Byzantine Rite Catholics, the
Western Ukrainians Ukrainian Orthodox Christians, and the Eastern
Ukrainians and Russians live in Ukraine Russian Orthodox.  The
services of all three churches look and sound very similar, but there
are cultural and theological differences.

The current situation has deep historical roots.  When the Swedish
Viking Rurik founded Rus, or Russia, in 864, he ruled from Novgorod,
which then and now was the most European part of Russia.  His
successor, Oleg, moved his capital to Kiev in 882, better to control
the trade route to Constantinople.  Kiev became one of the largest and
most beautiful cities in Europe, and the grand prince ruled most of
Russia directly or indirectly from Kiev for four centuries.  It was
the religious, cultural, artistic and political heart of Russia.

In 1223, the Mongols invaded Kievan Rus.  Resistance proved futile,
but Novgorod and Kiev struggled more than the other cities to keep the
Mongols and their Tatar allies at bay.  For 250 years, Russia was
dominated by the Mongols, and no one could rule as "Grand Prince of
all the Rus" without permission from the Golden Horde.  The princes of
Moscow proved most adept at placating the Mongols and acting as their
tax collectors, resulting in a shift of power away from Kiev and to
Yaroslav, and then Moscow.  Kiev was attacked and sacked in 1240,
first by the Muscovite armies and then by the main Mongol army.  The
city was burned, and only 2,000 of its 40,000 residents survived.
Most of the buildings were leveled, and visitors described what was
left as a field of bones.  The remnants of the people of Kievan Rus
mostly fled west and north to the Carpathian foothills.  Their
civilization disappeared, replaced by a more autocratic, militaristic
and hedonistic Muscovy.

The territory around Kiev was mostly empty.  The Muscovites, to erase
the memory of old Kievan Rus, named it the Ukraine, meaning the
frontier or borderland.  The area around Kiev was repopulated by
Muscovites, Tatars, and free peasants and runaway serfs, later known
as Cossacks.  The western part of the Kievan territory was too far
from Moscow to control, and soon fell under the control of Hungary and
Austria.  The people there remained Orthodox, although isolated and
abandoned by the fall of Constantinople and the move of the Russian
patriarch to Moscow.  After the 30 Years' War, their Orthodox religion
became illegal, but their church was allowed to continue their former
liturgy and practices by becoming the Uniate Church directly under
Rome (now the Byzantine Rite or Greek Catholic Church).

As a result, the people living in what is now the Western part of
Ukraine have long been ethnically, religiously and culturally quite
different from those in the Eastern and Southern parts, which have
always been dominated by Moscow.  The Soviet Union restructured the
map of Eastern Europe after WW II, creating the present boundaries of
Ukraine.  As long as the Ukrainian SSR was part of the Soviet Union,
all "Ukrainians" were oppressed and tightly controlled by the
government and the Communist Party.  Millions of them died of
starvation and other causes, and they had a common enemy and therefore
common interests.  With the fall of Communism, Ukrainian nationalism
demanded and received independence for the country.  Democracy seemed
to flourish for a while, but the economic transition was difficult,
and the Russian minority and some Eastern Ukrainians began to long for
the good old days of the USSR.

Straddling the fence between East and West has always been difficult,
and often impossible.  That has proven to be the case again.  Russia
became alarmed at the way Ukraine has been moving closer and closer to
the EU, and has long agitated for a "reunion" of Great Russia and
Little Russia.  It is difficult to see any middle course.  Either
Ukraine will be incorporated into the new Europe, or it will again
become a client of Mother Russia.  If you understand what has happened
to Belarus, you can see where this could 

Re: PESO - Elle (one for Derby)

2014-02-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Beautiful girl. Nicely photographed.

Paul
On Feb 20, 2014, at 2:33 PM, knarf  wrote:

> She has the best name ever.
> 
> Love the pose/expression. Beautiful light.
> 
> Cheers,
> frank
> 
> On 19 February, 2014 5:30:31 PM EST, Bruce Walker  
> wrote:
>> A shot from my very first studio workshop session back in 2012 with
>> model Elle Bunny. I filed a whole bunch like this until my retouching
>> skills matured.
>> 
>> I know that Elle's a big fave of Derby, so if you're out there, this
>> one's for you buddy ... :-)
>> 
>> http://flic.kr/p/kgddsJ
>> 
>> K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ f/8, 125th, ISO 200; Lr + Ps
>> Bowens strobes in 3x4' softboxes left and right -- you can't miss 'em
>> :-)
>> 
>> Comments exuberantly received.
> 
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Re: OT: "Shche ne vmerla Ukraina" (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)

2014-02-20 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Feb 20, 2014, at 2:31 PM, knarf  wrote:

> There are a bunch of them. I didn't see any that get into what's going on in 
> the Ukraine. 

The protests began when President Yanukovych ruled out an accord with the 
European Union and instead moved to form a close alliance with Russia and 
Putin. Many Ukranians, apparently, would rather be part of the union than a 
Russian puppet state. They’ve been occupying the square for a long time, but 
the demonstrations have now spread, probably because with the olympics taking 
place not far from there, they get more exposure. It’s an ugly situation, but 
most westerners,  myself included, tend to come down on the people’s side and 
favor the Ukraine as an European Union state rather than a Russian ally. It may 
be politics, but it’s not something that list members are likely to get 
emotional about, other than lamenting a bad situation.

Paul
> 
> Interesting art form though and she's quite good at it.
> 
> Cheers,
> frank
> 
> On 20 February, 2014 2:06:12 PM EST, mike wilson  
> wrote:
>> Search for "Ukraine has talent" and choose the one featuring Kseniya
>> Simonov.
>> 
>> On 20/02/2014, knarf  wrote:
>>> Unfortunately that video is blocked in Canada (or at least on android
>> in
>>> Canada).
>>> 
> 
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> 
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Re: PESO - Elle (one for Derby)

2014-02-20 Thread knarf
She has the best name ever.

Love the pose/expression. Beautiful light.

Cheers,
frank

On 19 February, 2014 5:30:31 PM EST, Bruce Walker  
wrote:
>A shot from my very first studio workshop session back in 2012 with
>model Elle Bunny. I filed a whole bunch like this until my retouching
>skills matured.
>
>I know that Elle's a big fave of Derby, so if you're out there, this
>one's for you buddy ... :-)
>
>http://flic.kr/p/kgddsJ
>
>K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ f/8, 125th, ISO 200; Lr + Ps
>Bowens strobes in 3x4' softboxes left and right -- you can't miss 'em
>:-)
>
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Re: OT: "Shche ne vmerla Ukraina" (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)

2014-02-20 Thread knarf
There are a bunch of them. I didn't see any that get into what's going on in 
the Ukraine. 

Interesting art form though and she's quite good at it.

Cheers,
frank

On 20 February, 2014 2:06:12 PM EST, mike wilson  
wrote:
>Search for "Ukraine has talent" and choose the one featuring Kseniya
>Simonov.
>
>On 20/02/2014, knarf  wrote:
>> Unfortunately that video is blocked in Canada (or at least on android
>in
>> Canada).
>>

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Re: PESO Pool Hall Portrait/K-3 low-light work

2014-02-20 Thread Attila Boros
Very nice work! I like the concentration in her eyes.

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Finally had a chance to shoot with the K-3 in the dim light of the pool hall. 
> Very pleased. The camera was able to lock focus in dark corners and noise 
> level looks good at ISO 12,800. Just started processing, but I was 
> immediately drawn to this host of a woman shooter sizing up her shot. She's a 
> forty-something mother of teenagers and quite attractive. K-3, DA* 
> 50-135/2.8, f4 @ 1/50th, ISO 12,800, 135mm focal length.
>
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Re: OT: "Shche ne vmerla Ukraina" (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)

2014-02-20 Thread mike wilson
Search for "Ukraine has talent" and choose the one featuring Kseniya Simonov.

On 20/02/2014, knarf  wrote:
> Unfortunately that video is blocked in Canada (or at least on android in
> Canada).
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Re: OT: "Shche ne vmerla Ukraina" (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)

2014-02-20 Thread knarf
Unfortunately that video is blocked in Canada (or at least on android in 
Canada).

Cheers,
frank

On 20 February, 2014 1:51:11 PM EST, mike wilson  
wrote:
>On 20/02/2014, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>> "Shche ne vmerla Ukraina"  (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)
>>
>> Ukraine has not yet died, nor her glory, nor her freedom,
>> Upon us, fellow Ukrainians, fate shall smile once more.
>> Our enemies will vanish like dew in the sun,
>> And we too shall rule, brothers, in a free land of our own.
>>
>> CHORUS(×2)
>> Souls and bodies we'll lay down, all for our freedom,
>> And we'll show that we, brothers, are of the Cossack nation!
>>
>> We'll stand, brothers, in bloody battle, from the Syan to the Don,
>> We will not allow others to rule in our motherland.
>> The Black Sea will smile and grandfather Dnieper will rejoice,
>> For in our own Ukraine fortune shall shine again.
>>
>> CHORUS(×2)
>>
>> Our persistence and our sincere toils will be rewarded,
>> And freedom's song will throughout all of Ukraine resound.
>> Echoing off the Carpathians, and across the steppes rumbling,
>> Ukraine's fame and glory will be known among all nations.
>>
>> CHORUS(×2)
>>
>>
>
>Just in case you need this in a visual form:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=518XP8prwZo&;
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Re: OT: "Shche ne vmerla Ukraina" (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)

2014-02-20 Thread mike wilson
On 20/02/2014, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> "Shche ne vmerla Ukraina"  (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)
>
> Ukraine has not yet died, nor her glory, nor her freedom,
> Upon us, fellow Ukrainians, fate shall smile once more.
> Our enemies will vanish like dew in the sun,
> And we too shall rule, brothers, in a free land of our own.
>
> CHORUS(×2)
> Souls and bodies we'll lay down, all for our freedom,
> And we'll show that we, brothers, are of the Cossack nation!
>
> We'll stand, brothers, in bloody battle, from the Syan to the Don,
> We will not allow others to rule in our motherland.
> The Black Sea will smile and grandfather Dnieper will rejoice,
> For in our own Ukraine fortune shall shine again.
>
> CHORUS(×2)
>
> Our persistence and our sincere toils will be rewarded,
> And freedom's song will throughout all of Ukraine resound.
> Echoing off the Carpathians, and across the steppes rumbling,
> Ukraine's fame and glory will be known among all nations.
>
> CHORUS(×2)
>
>

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Re: PESO Pool Hall Portrait/K-3 low-light work

2014-02-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Ken. Nothing was done to reduce noise. I did avoid sharpening beyond the 
default settings on ACR,but used a sharpening brush just a wee bit on the eyes. 

Paul
On Feb 20, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

> Very good capture Paul.
> 
> What was done after capture regarding noise, if anything?
> 
> Kenneth Waller
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> 
> - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" 
> Subject: PESO Pool Hall Portrait/K-3 low-light work
> 
> 
> Finally had a chance to shoot with the K-3 in the dim light of the pool hall. 
> Very pleased. The camera was able to lock focus in dark corners and noise 
> level looks good at ISO 12,800. Just started processing, but I was 
> immediately drawn to this host of a woman shooter sizing up her shot. She’s a 
> forty-something mother of teenagers and quite attractive. K-3, DA* 
> 50-135/2.8, f4 @ 1/50th, ISO 12,800, 135mm focal length.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17689333&size=lg
> 
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Re: K-100D vs K-30 -- Noise at high ISO?

2014-02-20 Thread Margus Männik
You are correct, I re-checked my image bank and found some great 
high-ISO winter scenes that I thought were shot with K-r, but are really 
made with K-x.


BR, Margus

On 20.02.2014 0:26, Larry Colen wrote:

On Feb 19, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Margus Männik  wrote:


Sorry for a late reply,

K30 is very un-noisy compared to K100D. I just took a look at my written 
reviews and sample images of both cameras. K30 images at ISO3200 are quite OK. 
K100D images do have visible digital noise and (depending on lighting 
conditions) may even have visible horizontal bands. There are also big 
differences in color accuracy and dynamic range.
I'd say that Pentax K-r was the first to have greatly improved image quality at 
high ISO values. And K30 is a bit better than K-r.

K-x was the one that made the big leap.  When I got my K-x I nearly stopped 
using my K20.  When I got my K-5 I kept the K-x and sold the K20.

The K-r has some big functional advantages over the K-x, and a lot of small 
performance advantages.

But, anything made after the K-x will be a huge improvement over the K100.


BR, Margus



On 9.02.2014 4:16, Glen Berry wrote:

This is going to be a difficult question to answer without showing comparison 
images, but can anyone give me some sort of idea how noisy a K-30 is, compared 
to the much older K-100D?

One of the things that bugs me the most about the older cameras like the 
K-100D, is the very noticeable noise at higher ISO's. With every step above ISO 
200, I can notice additional noise in the image. I think ISO 3200 is horrible.

I've read comments from folks who had much newer DSLR's of various brands, and 
some of those folks seem content with ISO 3200 on THEIR camera, and I think 
I've even read a few mentions of folks being satisfied with ISO 6400 for 
certain applications.

So, how good is the K-30 with regards to high ISO noise, and try to compare it 
to an older model like the K-100D if you can. I'm hoping the K-30 will let me 
shoot a few stops higher ISO without sacrificing quality. Would that likely be 
correct?


Thanks,
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Re: OT: "Shche ne vmerla Ukraina" (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)

2014-02-20 Thread knarf
I'm very uneasy when politics are brought on to this list; I recognize in 
saying so that I have been guilty from time to time. 

It's certainly hard to ignore certain things though. This is one of them. 

I don't pretend to know the answers.

Cheers,
frank

On 20 February, 2014 12:04:34 PM EST, Attila Boros  
wrote:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvds2AIiWLA
>
>On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Daniel J. Matyola
> wrote:
>> "Shche ne vmerla Ukraina"  (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)
>>
>> Ukraine has not yet died, nor her glory, nor her freedom,
>> Upon us, fellow Ukrainians, fate shall smile once more.
>> Our enemies will vanish like dew in the sun,
>> And we too shall rule, brothers, in a free land of our own.
>>
>> CHORUS(×2)
>> Souls and bodies we'll lay down, all for our freedom,
>> And we'll show that we, brothers, are of the Cossack nation!
>>
>> We'll stand, brothers, in bloody battle, from the Syan to the Don,
>> We will not allow others to rule in our motherland.
>> The Black Sea will smile and grandfather Dnieper will rejoice,
>> For in our own Ukraine fortune shall shine again.
>>
>> CHORUS(×2)
>>
>> Our persistence and our sincere toils will be rewarded,
>> And freedom's song will throughout all of Ukraine resound.
>> Echoing off the Carpathians, and across the steppes rumbling,
>> Ukraine's fame and glory will be known among all nations.
>>
>> CHORUS(×2)
>>
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: PESO Pool Hall Portrait/K-3 low-light work

2014-02-20 Thread Ken Waller

Very good capture Paul.

What was done after capture regarding noise, if anything?

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" 

Subject: PESO Pool Hall Portrait/K-3 low-light work


Finally had a chance to shoot with the K-3 in the dim light of the pool 
hall. Very pleased. The camera was able to lock focus in dark corners and 
noise level looks good at ISO 12,800. Just started processing, but I was 
immediately drawn to this host of a woman shooter sizing up her shot. She’s 
a forty-something mother of teenagers and quite attractive. K-3, DA* 
50-135/2.8, f4 @ 1/50th, ISO 12,800, 135mm focal length.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17689333&size=lg


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Re: PESO Pool Hall Portrait/K-3 low-light work

2014-02-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Frank. It’s not a fluorescent light. It’s the incandescent pool table 
light, but it’s out of range and burned out. I could easily clone it out, but I 
like it. I think it keeps this from being just another portrait.

Paul
On Feb 20, 2014, at 12:20 PM, knarf  wrote:

> That's a lovely portrait, Paul.
> 
> I find that fluorescent light to be very harsh and distracting. Any way it 
> could be burned? Maybe you want it in there as part of the "story" but I 
> might want to  crop it out all together.
> 
> Definitely a photo worth saving imho.
> 
> Cheers,
> frank
> 
> On 20 February, 2014 10:02:56 AM EST, Paul Stenquist 
>  wrote:
>> Finally had a chance to shoot with the K-3 in the dim light of the pool
>> hall. Very pleased. The camera was able to lock focus in dark corners
>> and noise level looks good at ISO 12,800. Just started processing, but
>> I was immediately drawn to this host of a woman shooter sizing up her
>> shot. She’s a forty-something mother of teenagers and quite attractive.
>> K-3, DA* 50-135/2.8, f4 @ 1/50th, ISO 12,800, 135mm focal length.
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17689333&size=lg
> 
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Re: PESO - Elle (one for Derby)

2014-02-20 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks, Attila!

BTW, I mentioned on my FB but neglected to here: Elle is a talented
singer/songwriter and amateur model, now studying law in Ottawa. I had
invited her out to this, her first studio shoot.


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Attila Boros  wrote:
> You made a very good start! And I can understand Derby:)
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> A shot from my very first studio workshop session back in 2012 with
>> model Elle Bunny. I filed a whole bunch like this until my retouching
>> skills matured.
>>
>> I know that Elle's a big fave of Derby, so if you're out there, this
>> one's for you buddy ... :-)
>>
>> http://flic.kr/p/kgddsJ
>>
>> K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ f/8, 125th, ISO 200; Lr + Ps
>> Bowens strobes in 3x4' softboxes left and right -- you can't miss 'em :-)
>>
>> Comments exuberantly received.
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Re: Yahoo is EFFED UP

2014-02-20 Thread John

On 2/19/2014 6:36 PM, steve harley wrote:

on 2014-02-19 16:14 John wrote

I don't use Yahoo for much of anything besides PDML.


that would make it easy to switch ...




Yes & no, since I switched *TO* Yahoo (and pay for it) to get PDML to
work after the fiasco with SpamCop & Roadrunner. I wasn't able to get
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Re: PESO - Read!

2014-02-20 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks you, Attila.

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Attila Boros  wrote:
> It's very nice and brings back a lot of memories from my childhood
> when we had many such bookshops in the city. Nowadays only a few
> manage to survive.
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> Another one dug out of my unposted archive ...
>>
>> http://flic.kr/p/keBNv9
>>
>> Seen in Dencan Books and Magazines, The Junction, Toronto.
>>
>> K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 16mm/f:16, 6 tenths sec shutter, ISO 200; tripod
>> Lr
>>
>> Comments filed alphabetically.
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Re: GESO A Few Snow Pics (with link)!!!

2014-02-20 Thread John

Thanks.

On 2/19/2014 10:50 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Your posts are coming through, John!  Cheers, Christine


On Feb 19, 2014, at 12:52 PM, John  wrote:


Generic reply to see if Yahoo is still EFFED UP!

Someone please reply if you see this message since I can't see my own, I can't get 
any help from Yahoo & have no other way to know whether this is going through 
or hitting the bit bucket.

On 2/19/2014 1:01 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


Cristine,


I like #2. As a few others expressed already, the falling snow is
presented well here.

I remember the place (and almost the same framing of the shot) depicted
in #1 from a photo you posted 1-2 years ago.
IIRC, somebody was cleaning the walk way in that one.

I envy you, - you've got such a great snow!
This year, just about 2 weeks ago, we had snow going 2 or 3 times during
the night, and saw traces of it in the morning, but, of course nothing
like this, and the colors were dominated by the yelowish grass.

Cheers,

Igor


Mon Feb 17 23:35:48 EST 2014
Christine Aguila wrote:

Yikes!  Sorry about that!  Cheers, Christine

http://www.caguila.com/snow2014/



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Re: PESO - Read!

2014-02-20 Thread knarf
Correct. 

I was inadvertently ambiguous. 

I meant "there's nothing like a good bookstore".

It was intended to be a positive statement.

Time does fly like an arrow.

Cheers,
frank

On 19 February, 2014 2:34:22 PM EST, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>On 19 Feb 2014, at 17:48, "Igor Roshchin"  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Bruce, it's a fun shot.
>> 
>> A few thoughts/comments:
>> 1. It insipred me to post a PESO (see the message I sent a few
>minutes
>> ago.
>> 
>> 2. The same way as in my photos (in that PESO), you have reflections,
>> which are, I guess from the ceiling lights.
>> 
>> 
>> Wed Feb 19 06:41:28 EST 2014
>> knarf wrote:
>>> Nothing like a real bookshop.
>> 
>> 3. Why? I've seen plenty of bookstores like this. 
>
>Frank's comment is ambiguous. 
>
>I think he means 'there is nothing like a good bookshop' - a positive
>reaction. 
>
>It could also be read as 'that is nothing like a good bookshop' - a
>negative reaction.
>
>Time flies like an arrow.
>
>B
>
>> Of course, the books on the side shelves do not look like what you
>see 
>> in the big chain stores (B&N). But you frequently see that in the
>independent
>> stores. One that I remember is St. Mark's Bookshop near Astor Place
>> on 3rd Ave in New York. This is close to Ann, I am sure she knows
>this
>> store.
>> http://goo.gl/NBqpFM
>> 
>> Another one that comes to mind is the one that we visited with Rob in
>> Sydney. (I have photos somewhere, but not on the web.)
>> 
>> 
>> Igor
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 February, 2014 5:18:10 AM EST, Bruce Walker > gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Another one dug out of my unposted archive ...
>>> 
>>> http://flic.kr/p/keBNv9
>>> 
>>> Seen in Dencan Books and Magazines, The Junction, Toronto.
>>> 
>>> K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 16mm/f:16, 6 tenths sec shutter, ISO 200;
>tripod
>>> Lr
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Re: PESO - Read!

2014-02-20 Thread knarf
No worries.

I wasn't clear.

Now you are.

Thanks!

Cheers,
frank

On 19 February, 2014 3:33:18 PM EST, Igor Roshchin  wrote:
>> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:47:30 -0500 (EST)
>> From: Igor Roshchin 
>>
>> Wed Feb 19 06:41:28 EST 2014
>> knarf wrote:
>> > Nothing like a real bookshop.
>>
>> 3. Why? I've seen plenty of bookstores like this. 
>
>From Bruce's and Bob's comments, I see that I misunderstood Frank's
>comment.
>Mea culpa!
>
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Re: OT: "Shche ne vmerla Ukraina" (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)

2014-02-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dan and Attila,
Thanks for sharing.
I feel my grandparent's hand and the Polish Eagle standing behind you.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Attila Boros  wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvds2AIiWLA
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  
> wrote:
>> "Shche ne vmerla Ukraina"  (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)
>>
>> Ukraine has not yet died, nor her glory, nor her freedom,
>> Upon us, fellow Ukrainians, fate shall smile once more.
>> Our enemies will vanish like dew in the sun,
>> And we too shall rule, brothers, in a free land of our own.
>>
>> CHORUS(×2)
>> Souls and bodies we'll lay down, all for our freedom,
>> And we'll show that we, brothers, are of the Cossack nation!
>>
>> We'll stand, brothers, in bloody battle, from the Syan to the Don,
>> We will not allow others to rule in our motherland.
>> The Black Sea will smile and grandfather Dnieper will rejoice,
>> For in our own Ukraine fortune shall shine again.
>>
>> CHORUS(×2)
>>
>> Our persistence and our sincere toils will be rewarded,
>> And freedom's song will throughout all of Ukraine resound.
>> Echoing off the Carpathians, and across the steppes rumbling,
>> Ukraine's fame and glory will be known among all nations.
>>
>> CHORUS(×2)
>>
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
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Re: PESO - Read!

2014-02-20 Thread knarf
You are correct, Bruce. 

I meant "there's nothing like a good bookshop"; it was a positive statement. 

The small independent bookshop is dying around here as a result of Amazon and 
other online retailers, but places like Canada's Indigo are a huge part of the 
problem. They are predatory and they undercut the little guy. Their selection 
is not better, in fact it's worse: all mainstream crap - just lots more of it.

I love nothing more than going to one of our Book City stores (a small 
independent chain) and spending hours poring over the remainder tables. Some of 
the best books have been discontinued...

Cheers,
frank

On 19 February, 2014 2:32:48 PM EST, Bruce Walker  
wrote:
>On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Igor Roshchin  wrote:
>>
>> Bruce, it's a fun shot.
>
>Thanks, Igor.
>
>> A few thoughts/comments:
>> 1. It insipred me to post a PESO (see the message I sent a few
>minutes
>> ago.
>
>On my way to check it out ...
>
>> 2. The same way as in my photos (in that PESO), you have reflections,
>> which are, I guess from the ceiling lights.
>
>Actually they are from the large floor to ceiling, wall to wall shop
>windows. It was rainy outside that day so it's very diffuse light,
>angled in at about 30 degrees I imagine. This bookcase faces the
>windows about 6 feet from them. I should have had my polarizer on.
>
>
>> Wed Feb 19 06:41:28 EST 2014
>> knarf wrote:
>>> Nothing like a real bookshop.
>>
>> 3. Why? I've seen plenty of bookstores like this.
>
>Frank short-formed "There is nothing like a real bookshop."
>
>Around these parts they are becoming scarce quite fast. Pressure from
>ebooks, largely. The book biz is changing radically and the owner of
>this one is fed up. He's in his early seventies and is planning to one
>day soon sell off all the stock in a fire sale, then close the store
>and go home. And he is one of the last of the big used book stores in
>Toronto.
>
>Even the big chains are struggling. The Heather Reisman empire (she's
>the CEO of Indigo which swallowed up Chapters, Coles, WH Smith, etc.)
>is in some trouble and trying to quickly reinvent themselves as a
>retailer of baby clothing and other non-book goods. (She missed the
>boat: Amazon did that years ago.)
>
>So enjoy your old fashioned book stores while you can.
>
>
>
>> Of course, the books on the side shelves do not look like what you
>see
>> in the big chain stores (B&N). But you frequently see that in the
>independent
>> stores. One that I remember is St. Mark's Bookshop near Astor Place
>> on 3rd Ave in New York. This is close to Ann, I am sure she knows
>this
>> store.
>> http://goo.gl/NBqpFM
>>
>> Another one that comes to mind is the one that we visited with Rob in
>> Sydney. (I have photos somewhere, but not on the web.)
>>
>>
>> Igor
>>
>>
>> On 19 February, 2014 5:18:10 AM EST, Bruce Walker > gmail.com> wrote:
>>>Another one dug out of my unposted archive ...
>>>
>>>http://flic.kr/p/keBNv9
>>>
>>>Seen in Dencan Books and Magazines, The Junction, Toronto.
>>>
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>tripod
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Re: PESO Pool Hall Portrait/K-3 low-light work

2014-02-20 Thread knarf
That's a lovely portrait, Paul.

I find that fluorescent light to be very harsh and distracting. Any way it 
could be burned? Maybe you want it in there as part of the "story" but I might 
want to  crop it out all together.

Definitely a photo worth saving imho.

Cheers,
frank

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>Finally had a chance to shoot with the K-3 in the dim light of the pool
>hall. Very pleased. The camera was able to lock focus in dark corners
>and noise level looks good at ISO 12,800. Just started processing, but
>I was immediately drawn to this host of a woman shooter sizing up her
>shot. She’s a forty-something mother of teenagers and quite attractive.
>K-3, DA* 50-135/2.8, f4 @ 1/50th, ISO 12,800, 135mm focal length.
>
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Re: OT: "Shche ne vmerla Ukraina" (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)

2014-02-20 Thread Attila Boros
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvds2AIiWLA

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> "Shche ne vmerla Ukraina"  (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)
>
> Ukraine has not yet died, nor her glory, nor her freedom,
> Upon us, fellow Ukrainians, fate shall smile once more.
> Our enemies will vanish like dew in the sun,
> And we too shall rule, brothers, in a free land of our own.
>
> CHORUS(×2)
> Souls and bodies we'll lay down, all for our freedom,
> And we'll show that we, brothers, are of the Cossack nation!
>
> We'll stand, brothers, in bloody battle, from the Syan to the Don,
> We will not allow others to rule in our motherland.
> The Black Sea will smile and grandfather Dnieper will rejoice,
> For in our own Ukraine fortune shall shine again.
>
> CHORUS(×2)
>
> Our persistence and our sincere toils will be rewarded,
> And freedom's song will throughout all of Ukraine resound.
> Echoing off the Carpathians, and across the steppes rumbling,
> Ukraine's fame and glory will be known among all nations.
>
> CHORUS(×2)
>
>
> Dan Matyola
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Feb PUG (Mark)

2014-02-20 Thread Jack Davis




Mark,
Been admiring your beautifully processed Hyde Park robin. I agree that the 
55-300 is capable of stunningly sharp images. Am, also, constantly pleased with 
the lens' generosity in allowing cropping.
Even though I invariably have the SR on, I do wish it were a bit heavier to 
further help me control my 300mm shakes when hand holding. 

Jack

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Re: PESO - Elle (one for Derby)

2014-02-20 Thread Attila Boros
You made a very good start! And I can understand Derby:)

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> A shot from my very first studio workshop session back in 2012 with
> model Elle Bunny. I filed a whole bunch like this until my retouching
> skills matured.
>
> I know that Elle's a big fave of Derby, so if you're out there, this
> one's for you buddy ... :-)
>
> http://flic.kr/p/kgddsJ
>
> K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ f/8, 125th, ISO 200; Lr + Ps
> Bowens strobes in 3x4' softboxes left and right -- you can't miss 'em :-)
>
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Re: PESO - Read!

2014-02-20 Thread Attila Boros
It's very nice and brings back a lot of memories from my childhood
when we had many such bookshops in the city. Nowadays only a few
manage to survive.

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> Another one dug out of my unposted archive ...
>
> http://flic.kr/p/keBNv9
>
> Seen in Dencan Books and Magazines, The Junction, Toronto.
>
> K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 16mm/f:16, 6 tenths sec shutter, ISO 200; tripod
> Lr
>
> Comments filed alphabetically.
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Re: PESO Pool Hall Portrait/K-3 low-light work

2014-02-20 Thread Marco Alpert
Wonderful portrait and, for someone still shooting with an *istDs, a pretty 
stunning example of quality at 12,800. (I believe there's a K-3 in my future.)

Marco

> On Feb 20, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> Excellent candid portrait, Paul! I really like the look of cool focus
> on her task. You've managed to get her in very good light there, in a
> place where unflattering hard uplight is common.
> 
> The K-3 really shines in this kind of work.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Paul Stenquist
>  wrote:
>> Finally had a chance to shoot with the K-3 in the dim light of the pool 
>> hall. Very pleased. The camera was able to lock focus in dark corners and 
>> noise level looks good at ISO 12,800. Just started processing, but I was 
>> immediately drawn to this host of a woman shooter sizing up her shot. She’s 
>> a forty-something mother of teenagers and quite attractive. K-3, DA* 
>> 50-135/2.8, f4 @ 1/50th, ISO 12,800, 135mm focal length.
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17689333&size=lg
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Re: PESO -- I've got the world on a string

2014-02-20 Thread Attila Boros
I really like the second one, her amazement comes through well. It's a
very nice moment caught, and the light is not so bad.

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Igor Roshchin  wrote:
>
> Bruce's PESO reminded me of a recent shot at Alexander Camp House at
> Dallas Arboretum.
> "Busy reading":
> http://42graphy.org/misc/ru-2013/_IR09403.html
>
>
> And from the same location, the namesake for this message:
> http://42graphy.org/misc/ru-2013/_IR09407.html
>
> ... or "She's got the whole world in her hands"?
> ;-)
>
>
> I'm not happy about the highlight from the flash light,
> but it's the situation where you don't get a "do over" (or to
> set the lighting up for that matter).
>
> Comments and suggestions are welcome.
>
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Re: PESO Pool Hall Portrait/K-3 low-light work

2014-02-20 Thread Bruce Walker
Excellent candid portrait, Paul! I really like the look of cool focus
on her task. You've managed to get her in very good light there, in a
place where unflattering hard uplight is common.

The K-3 really shines in this kind of work.

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Paul Stenquist
 wrote:
> Finally had a chance to shoot with the K-3 in the dim light of the pool hall. 
> Very pleased. The camera was able to lock focus in dark corners and noise 
> level looks good at ISO 12,800. Just started processing, but I was 
> immediately drawn to this host of a woman shooter sizing up her shot. She’s a 
> forty-something mother of teenagers and quite attractive. K-3, DA* 
> 50-135/2.8, f4 @ 1/50th, ISO 12,800, 135mm focal length.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17689333&size=lg
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Re: PESO Pool Hall Portrait/K-3 low-light work

2014-02-20 Thread Jack Davis




She faintly reminds me of Gracie. I know, 'tis odd, but was my first impression.
Nice clean image. I'd consider it a pleasing K-3 performance.

Jack



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Subject: PESO Pool Hall Portrait/K-3 low-light work


Finally had a chance to shoot with the K-3 in the dim light of the pool hall. 
Very pleased. The camera was able to lock focus in dark corners and noise level 
looks good at ISO 12,800. Just started processing, but I was immediately drawn 
to this host of a woman shooter sizing up her shot. She’s a forty-something 
mother of teenagers and quite attractive. K-3, DA* 50-135/2.8, f4 @ 1/50th, ISO 
12,800, 135mm focal length.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17689333&size=lg
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PESO Pool Hall Portrait/K-3 low-light work

2014-02-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Finally had a chance to shoot with the K-3 in the dim light of the pool hall. 
Very pleased. The camera was able to lock focus in dark corners and noise level 
looks good at ISO 12,800. Just started processing, but I was immediately drawn 
to this host of a woman shooter sizing up her shot. She’s a forty-something 
mother of teenagers and quite attractive. K-3, DA* 50-135/2.8, f4 @ 1/50th, ISO 
12,800, 135mm focal length.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17689333&size=lg
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Re: PESO - Ghost Train

2014-02-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I feel it needs something more -- perhaps a focus of interest?

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:00 AM, Marco Alpert  wrote:
> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo14/peso4.html
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OT: "Shche ne vmerla Ukraina" (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)

2014-02-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
"Shche ne vmerla Ukraina"  (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)

Ukraine has not yet died, nor her glory, nor her freedom,
Upon us, fellow Ukrainians, fate shall smile once more.
Our enemies will vanish like dew in the sun,
And we too shall rule, brothers, in a free land of our own.

CHORUS(×2)
Souls and bodies we'll lay down, all for our freedom,
And we'll show that we, brothers, are of the Cossack nation!

We'll stand, brothers, in bloody battle, from the Syan to the Don,
We will not allow others to rule in our motherland.
The Black Sea will smile and grandfather Dnieper will rejoice,
For in our own Ukraine fortune shall shine again.

CHORUS(×2)

Our persistence and our sincere toils will be rewarded,
And freedom's song will throughout all of Ukraine resound.
Echoing off the Carpathians, and across the steppes rumbling,
Ukraine's fame and glory will be known among all nations.

CHORUS(×2)


Dan Matyola
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Re: GESO - Interviewing Al Pacino!

2014-02-20 Thread Bruce Walker
Thank you, Christine.

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Christine Aguila
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> Very nice, Bruce!  Cheers, Christine
>
>
> On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>
>> ... almost. My wife Louise was interviewing a veteran Canadian
>> filmmaker (actor, director, producer, photographer, acting coach)
>> Frank Caruso in our home on Saturday, and the topic of difficult
>> interview subjects came up. So Frank demonstrated what it might be
>> like to interview Al Pacino who apparently is notoriously reticent. He
>> had us in stitches ...
>>
>> http://goo.gl/xCgq8J
>>
>> K-3, DA* 55/1.4 @ f/2.2, 1/160th, ISO 800
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>> Westcott 28" Apollo softbox with 65W CFL.
>>
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