Re: PESO Mini Cooper
John Francis wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:07:13AM +1000, Philip Northeast wrote: A real Mini Cooper on teh race track https://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/15016470680/ Well, mostly on the track, anyway :-) I don't think the gratuitous insult was called for, though. I've driven both the original and the new Mini (including getting an old Mini with less wheels in contact with the pavement than the one you depict here), and I know which I think is the better car. My first car was an Austin America aka Austin 1300, mechanically nearly identical to the Mini Cooper S. The sesquiminis may be a better car in the way that only 50 years of technological progress can improve a car, however when you compare them to real minis they might as well be BMWs. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
P.J. Alling wrote: 46mp in a 24x36mm sensor seems like they're pushing the ragged edge of physics. That's about the same pixel pitch as 24MP in a K-3. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Mini Cooper
Tut, tut! Come now gentlemen. The originals may be the real ones but the new ones are unreal. Dakar is testimony to that. Alan C -Original Message- From: John Francis Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 2:21 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO Mini Cooper On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:07:13AM +1000, Philip Northeast wrote: A real Mini Cooper on teh race track https://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/15016470680/ Well, mostly on the track, anyway :-) I don't think the gratuitous insult was called for, though. I've driven both the original and the new Mini (including getting an old Mini with less wheels in contact with the pavement than the one you depict here), and I know which I think is the better car. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
Comapred to the current 36-megapixel full-frame sensor, a 46 megapixel sensor represents in increase by a factor of about 1.27. So if you had an old 6-megapixel ist-D it would be equivalent to upgrading to a 7.6-megapixel camera. In other words, it's a silly marketing game. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
That's a funny way of looking at it. First of all, almost all change is incremental, but that doesn't mean it is insignifcant. If reducing things to percentage increase was a valid way of comparing things, then someone who went from bench pressing 460 lbs from 360 lbs shouldn't be any prouder of the accomplishment than someone who went from 60 lbs to 76 lbs. It's just a funny way to make comparisons, unless you are trying to purposely minimize accomplishment. I don't know a lot about sensor manufacturing (particularly Sony's way) but I don't think it is a stretch to say that sensors with smaller photosites are more challenging to manufacture than those with larger photosites. I haven't checked Larry's math, but it wouldn't surprise me if Sony first perfected their technique on an APS-C sized sensor before applying that same process to a larger sized sensor. I also don't think it is a stretch to say that once they have conquered that they might consider trying it on a medium format sensor. (Anybody do that math on what that might be?) All of that output required an imaging engine that can handle it, but we've seen that the latest can handle the 51MP filesizes of the 645z, so is should n't be surprising to see the smaller (than medium format) sensor sizes pushing the envelope to fill that range. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Comapred to the current 36-megapixel full-frame sensor, a 46 megapixel sensor represents in increase by a factor of about 1.27. So if you had an old 6-megapixel ist-D it would be equivalent to upgrading to a 7.6-megapixel camera. In other words, it's a silly marketing game. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: this one's for Bill
Yeah, but that's the kind of world we live in nowadays. On 9/10/2014 3:18 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Does anyone else think this is, well, kinda twisted? On 9/10/2014 2:21 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: When you get bored with your helicoptercam: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29140059 I think a moose would be appropriate. B -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Mini Cooper
They were light enough that with the help of a couple of spectators he should have been able to right it been back in the race. On 9/11/2014 1:52 AM, knarf wrote: I used to love watching Minis at the production races at Mosport, Ontario before the F1 and CanAm races in the 70s. Huge crowds would gather at Moss Corner (the hairpin) and the higher the inside rear tire got the louder we'd cheer. If the inside front lifted it became an uproar. Once one rolled over and the crowd went berserk. The racer was right into it though: jumped out of his crumpled machine waving both hands over his head at the delirious crowd. Jolly good fun. Lovely photo. Cheers, frank On 10 September, 2014 8:07:13 PM EDT, Philip Northeast rnort...@bigpond.net.au wrote: A real Mini Cooper on teh race track https://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/15016470680/ “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
On 9/11/2014 6:33 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Comapred to the current 36-megapixel full-frame sensor, a 46 megapixel sensor represents in increase by a factor of about 1.27. So if you had an old 6-megapixel ist-D it would be equivalent to upgrading to a 7.6-megapixel camera. In other words, it's a silly marketing game. ... unless it's a *successful* marketing game, then it's not silly. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
And I suspect a rounded pixel count increase of 28% will be viewed as a significant step. Jack - Original Message - From: John sesso...@earthlink.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:07:45 AM Subject: Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor On 9/11/2014 6:33 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Comapred to the current 36-megapixel full-frame sensor, a 46 megapixel sensor represents in increase by a factor of about 1.27. So if you had an old 6-megapixel ist-D it would be equivalent to upgrading to a 7.6-megapixel camera. In other words, it's a silly marketing game. ... unless it's a *successful* marketing game, then it's not silly. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
New under the Ricoh flag: WG-M1
http://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/pentax-news-rumors/ricoh-wg-m1-specifications.html A good move closer to GoPro territory, IMHO. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
On Sep 11, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: That's a funny way of looking at it. First of all, almost all change is incremental, but that doesn't mean it is insignifcant. If reducing things to percentage increase was a valid way of comparing things, then someone who went from bench pressing 460 lbs from 360 lbs shouldn't be any prouder of the accomplishment than someone who went from 60 lbs to 76 lbs. It's just a funny way to make comparisons, unless you are trying to purposely minimize accomplishment. I’ll leave aside Mark’s point, I don’t know enough to agree or disagree. But Darren, your notion of percentages as a bad thing is just wrong. Lets say I earn $100 an hour. Then I get a $100 raise, am now earning $200 an hour. You are earning $1000 an hour, and then you also get a $100 raise. So you are at $1100 an hour. We both get an added $100 an hour, but my increase was 100%, yours was only 10%. Don’t you think that percentages better reflect the perceived value in this case? Ask the buyer of a new $20,000 car how important a $2000 discount would be. Ask the buyer of a new $100,000 car how important a $2000 discount would be. There is a long history of trying to use numbers in various forms to represent perceived value of one sort or another. Most systems fall apart because our underlying value systems are not linear and cannot be fairly represented with a simple linear scale. Percentages do a pretty good job capturing some of that underlying non-linearity and I think Mark’s usage helps to provide a valid alternative perspective on this breaking news”. Log scales can be another useful tool… stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
I'm not denying that there is an appropriate place to use percentages. It is especially useful in apples to apples comparisons. I'm just saying that comparing APS-C to full frame AND to a completely different era is apples to oranges, in my book. To go back to Mark's numbers, he's saying a 27% increase is insignificant except from a marketing standpoint. The new K-S1 is a 25% increase in megapixels over the past several years' 16MP models. Even ignoring the other technology improvements along the way, I think that 25% is a pretty significant increase. I can make is sound smaller by terming it a 1.25 factor if I want to minimize it. Feel free to disagree, but that's my opinion. I think that we may just be spoiled by seeing the flagship go up 50% from 16MP to 24MP. That's partly due to the disruption caused by no (really) new DSLR models during the Hoya to Ricoh transition. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Sep 11, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: That's a funny way of looking at it. First of all, almost all change is incremental, but that doesn't mean it is insignifcant. If reducing things to percentage increase was a valid way of comparing things, then someone who went from bench pressing 460 lbs from 360 lbs shouldn't be any prouder of the accomplishment than someone who went from 60 lbs to 76 lbs. It's just a funny way to make comparisons, unless you are trying to purposely minimize accomplishment. I’ll leave aside Mark’s point, I don’t know enough to agree or disagree. But Darren, your notion of percentages as a bad thing is just wrong. Lets say I earn $100 an hour. Then I get a $100 raise, am now earning $200 an hour. You are earning $1000 an hour, and then you also get a $100 raise. So you are at $1100 an hour. We both get an added $100 an hour, but my increase was 100%, yours was only 10%. Don’t you think that percentages better reflect the perceived value in this case? Ask the buyer of a new $20,000 car how important a $2000 discount would be. Ask the buyer of a new $100,000 car how important a $2000 discount would be. There is a long history of trying to use numbers in various forms to represent perceived value of one sort or another. Most systems fall apart because our underlying value systems are not linear and cannot be fairly represented with a simple linear scale. Percentages do a pretty good job capturing some of that underlying non-linearity and I think Mark’s usage helps to provide a valid alternative perspective on this breaking news”. Log scales can be another useful tool… stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New under the Ricoh flag: WG-M1
On Ricoh's web site... http://us.ricoh-imaging.com/digital-camera/WG-M1_Orange Available for pre-order at $299.95 -p Sent from my iPad On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:35 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/pentax-news-rumors/ricoh-wg-m1-specifications.html A good move closer to GoPro territory, IMHO. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New under the Ricoh flag: WG-M1
Check out the related products at the bottom of the Ricoh page. (Different mounts) I gotta say that I like the specifications for this thing. It would an awesome unit for the roof of a vehicle on a storm chase. HDMI out means you could have a 7 monitor inside the car. Would be really cool on an Alt-Az motorized mount up there. The 16.8mm focal length (35mm equiv.) would be perfect (most of my still shots are taken at an effective 15mm) and one could use it in Time Lapse or video mode (depending upon what is going on). In fact, these might work well for in-vehicle interior shots (mounted with suction cups to the inside of the windshield) for those Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee type of shots. My main concern there would be that it is limited to 800 ISO. I think this is going to be a good little moneymaker for Ricoh, which would ultimately be good for the development of other things in the product line. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: On Ricoh's web site... http://us.ricoh-imaging.com/digital-camera/WG-M1_Orange Available for pre-order at $299.95 -p Sent from my iPad On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:35 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/pentax-news-rumors/ricoh-wg-m1-specifications.html A good move closer to GoPro territory, IMHO. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: And I suspect a rounded pixel count increase of 28% will be viewed as a significant step. Since the current 36-megapixel camersa already out-resolve most available lenses it's a 28% increase in storage space with little or no improvement in image quality. As John says, whether it's successful marketing or not is what counts. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Mini Cooper
On 9/11/2014 3:19 AM, Larry Colen wrote: John Francis wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:07:13AM +1000, Philip Northeast wrote: A real Mini Cooper on teh race track https://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/15016470680/ Well, mostly on the track, anyway :-) I don't think the gratuitous insult was called for, though. I've driven both the original and the new Mini (including getting an old Mini with less wheels in contact with the pavement than the one you depict here), and I know which I think is the better car. My first car was an Austin America aka Austin 1300, mechanically nearly identical to the Mini Cooper S. The sesquiminis may be a better car in the way that only 50 years of technological progress can improve a car, however when you compare them to real minis they might as well be BMWs. Which is only because they are BMWs. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Mini Cooper
On Sep 11, 2014, at 11:56 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/11/2014 3:19 AM, Larry Colen wrote: John Francis wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:07:13AM +1000, Philip Northeast wrote: A real Mini Cooper on teh race track https://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/15016470680/ Well, mostly on the track, anyway :-) I don't think the gratuitous insult was called for, though. I've driven both the original and the new Mini (including getting an old Mini with less wheels in contact with the pavement than the one you depict here), and I know which I think is the better car. My first car was an Austin America aka Austin 1300, mechanically nearly identical to the Mini Cooper S. The sesquiminis may be a better car in the way that only 50 years of technological progress can improve a car, however when you compare them to real minis they might as well be BMWs. Which is only because they are BMWs. And a much better car if one measures automotive virtue in terms of handling, practicality, performance and all the other standards, but certainly not as interesting, unique or entertaining as the original. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
mark roberts wrote: Since the current 36-megapixel cameras already out-resolve most available lenses it's a 28% increase in storage space with little or no improvement in image quality. Of course you won't notice the difference on the web or 4x6 print. But remember way back when *all* our films had more resolving power than any of our lenses yet we sought finer-grained films. Why? Because they directly affect the result. To revisit an old analogy, it's like listening to brass on CD v LP. It's harsh on CD and clear on an old LP. The timbre, the nuances, are all clarified with greater detail. The CD satisfies most people. Same goes for a denser sensor. Better edge clarity, richer colors ... everything improves. Now, it may be at 92% - 95% top of the curve that makes no diff to the amateur. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
That is true, but I think that about the K-3 sensor as well, and most users seem to think that the K-5 produces better image quality at high ISO than the K-3. What I'd hope for in the future, more than most anything else, would effectively be, a K-5III with an improved ~16mp, (OK Pentax will probably stuff a 20mp sensor into it's next mid level camera), sensor and many of the K-3 improvements, (I'd also like to see them leave out a few of those improvements too), That won't happen, but it should. Pentax even as a division of Ricoh doesn't have the resources to do what Sony has done with the a7 mirrorless, three cameras with three distinct characters based on three different sensors. Currently Pentax seems to be doing that with the K-5IIs and K-3 still being in the line, but that will last only as long as the remaining stocks of K-5IIs cameras last. It's place will likely be filled with an improved K-50 with a 20mp sensor or an upgraded K-s1 with an improved control interface and maybe a higher Pixel count. Pentax can't afford to maintain four distinct Camera bodies in it's line indefinably. On 9/11/2014 3:22 AM, Larry Colen wrote: P.J. Alling wrote: 46mp in a 24x36mm sensor seems like they're pushing the ragged edge of physics. That's about the same pixel pitch as 24MP in a K-3. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
I think that it might well be more than a 28% change in file size, but I'm not sure at this point, everything even raw files are subject to some kind of compression these days. On 9/11/2014 10:46 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: And I suspect a rounded pixel count increase of 28% will be viewed as a significant step. Since the current 36-megapixel camersa already out-resolve most available lenses it's a 28% increase in storage space with little or no improvement in image quality. As John says, whether it's successful marketing or not is what counts. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Mini Cooper
On 11/09/2014 9:56 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: On 9/11/2014 3:19 AM, Larry Colen wrote: John Francis wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:07:13AM +1000, Philip Northeast wrote: A real Mini Cooper on teh race track https://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/15016470680/ Well, mostly on the track, anyway :-) I don't think the gratuitous insult was called for, though. I've driven both the original and the new Mini (including getting an old Mini with less wheels in contact with the pavement than the one you depict here), and I know which I think is the better car. My first car was an Austin America aka Austin 1300, mechanically nearly identical to the Mini Cooper S. The sesquiminis may be a better car in the way that only 50 years of technological progress can improve a car, however when you compare them to real minis they might as well be BMWs. Which is only because they are BMWs. And by definition, not real Minis, which were, IIRC, made in England by British Motor Corp until that was taken over by British Leyland and then Rover Group. I tried as hard as I could, but I didn't see BMW anywhere in the list of manufacturers for the original Mini. Some people just seem to want to be offended. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Mini Cooper
On 11/09/2014 10:15 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Sep 11, 2014, at 11:56 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/11/2014 3:19 AM, Larry Colen wrote: John Francis wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:07:13AM +1000, Philip Northeast wrote: A real Mini Cooper on teh race track https://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/15016470680/ Well, mostly on the track, anyway :-) I don't think the gratuitous insult was called for, though. I've driven both the original and the new Mini (including getting an old Mini with less wheels in contact with the pavement than the one you depict here), and I know which I think is the better car. My first car was an Austin America aka Austin 1300, mechanically nearly identical to the Mini Cooper S. The sesquiminis may be a better car in the way that only 50 years of technological progress can improve a car, however when you compare them to real minis they might as well be BMWs. Which is only because they are BMWs. And a much better car if one measures automotive virtue in terms of handling, practicality, performance and all the other standards One would hope so, wouldn't one? But this has nothing to do with the topic, does it? bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
i bet that no one here could tell a difference between a 2x3 meter print from a 36mpix sensor and the one from a 48mpix sensor. even at close range. i would actually bet. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 6:57 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I think that it might well be more than a 28% change in file size, but I'm not sure at this point, everything even raw files are subject to some kind of compression these days. On 9/11/2014 10:46 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: And I suspect a rounded pixel count increase of 28% will be viewed as a significant step. Since the current 36-megapixel camersa already out-resolve most available lenses it's a 28% increase in storage space with little or no improvement in image quality. As John says, whether it's successful marketing or not is what counts. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Mini Cooper
On 9/11/2014 1:11 PM, Bill wrote: On 11/09/2014 9:56 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: On 9/11/2014 3:19 AM, Larry Colen wrote: John Francis wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:07:13AM +1000, Philip Northeast wrote: A real Mini Cooper on teh race track https://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/15016470680/ Well, mostly on the track, anyway :-) I don't think the gratuitous insult was called for, though. I've driven both the original and the new Mini (including getting an old Mini with less wheels in contact with the pavement than the one you depict here), and I know which I think is the better car. My first car was an Austin America aka Austin 1300, mechanically nearly identical to the Mini Cooper S. The sesquiminis may be a better car in the way that only 50 years of technological progress can improve a car, however when you compare them to real minis they might as well be BMWs. Which is only because they are BMWs. And by definition, not real Minis, which were, IIRC, made in England by British Motor Corp until that was taken over by British Leyland and then Rover Group. I tried as hard as I could, but I didn't see BMW anywhere in the list of manufacturers for the original Mini. Some people just seem to want to be offended. bill I was never a Mini fan, the new BMW mini seems to be a better all around car, at a price, it's no longer an economy car, but then again neither is the Volkswagen Beetle, both those cars have become nostalgia toys. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
On 11/09/2014 10:46 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: mark roberts wrote: Since the current 36-megapixel cameras already out-resolve most available lenses it's a 28% increase in storage space with little or no improvement in image quality. Of course you won't notice the difference on the web or 4x6 print. But remember way back when *all* our films had more resolving power than any of our lenses yet we sought finer-grained films. Why? Because they directly affect the result. To revisit an old analogy, it's like listening to brass on CD v LP. It's harsh on CD and clear on an old LP. The timbre, the nuances, are all clarified with greater detail. The CD satisfies most people. Same goes for a denser sensor. Better edge clarity, richer colors ... everything improves. Now, it may be at 92% - 95% top of the curve that makes no diff to the amateur. It's more likely that it will make no difference to the professional, but amateurs will debate it into the ground on various websites. Better specifications are all well and good, but if it doesn't translate into a meaningful quality increase, it's just numbers on paper. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
It's obviously all about marketing. Lens resolution is elusive and unique to each sample, therefore is as high as it's owner decides. IOW, they will find what they're looking for. Camera handling notwithstanding(???) Jack - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:46:50 AM Subject: Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: And I suspect a rounded pixel count increase of 28% will be viewed as a significant step. Since the current 36-megapixel camersa already out-resolve most available lenses it's a 28% increase in storage space with little or no improvement in image quality. As John says, whether it's successful marketing or not is what counts. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com wrote: i bet that no one here could tell a difference between a 2x3 meter print from a 36mpix sensor and the one from a 48mpix sensor. even at close range. i would actually bet. And if the sensor's outresolving the lens, there won't BE any difference. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New under the Ricoh flag: WG-M1
It's a nicely speced small rugged camera. However, for non-Go-Pro-like applications, it might be limited because of the extra-wide lens. While Darren described his use, I'd assume that it is for various extreme and fun applications like those, - but it would work for the everyday applications. What is funny is that the page on the Ricoh website has the HTML title (the one that shows on the top of the browser windo): PENTAX - WG-M1 Orange. Fun-fun.. :-) Igor Thu Sep 11 10:09:57 EDT 2014 Paul Sorenson wrote: On Ricoh's web site... http://us.ricoh-imaging.com/digital-camera/WG-M1_Orange Available for pre-order at $299.95 -p Sent from my iPad On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:35 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmithy at gmail.com wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/pentax-news-rumors/ricoh-wg-m1-specifications.html A good move closer to GoPro territory, IMHO. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
You *want* your sensor to out-resolve the lens, people. Don't say it like it's a bad thing. I think that people are forgetting that if the sensor DOES NOT out-resolve the lens you theoretically have moire. This is why AA filters were necessary in the past, but as pixel pitch shrinks it becomes unnecessary. It is not that the problem of moire has disappeared, it is that the sensor over samples the image and eliminates most moire. This isn't a function of sensor size, but photosite size, which is why the Q can get away with no AA filter. This page is a nice demo (albeit at lower MP sizes than we are talking about): http://www.talkemount.com/showthread.php?t=387 You get the picture. (Also take note of his Conclusions) This example takes big jumps (1MP, 4MP, 16MP) so Luka's contention may be a good one. But put an 85mm Zeiss Otus at f/2.8 in front of the 36 MP and 46 MP sensor and I'd be interested in giving it a try. :) The point is that as sensors get better you have more headroom to improve you photography by *taking advantage* of better lenses. But there will probably be a point (particularly if you print large) at which you start to realize that some of your lenses are no longer passing muster. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com wrote: i bet that no one here could tell a difference between a 2x3 meter print from a 36mpix sensor and the one from a 48mpix sensor. even at close range. i would actually bet. And if the sensor's outresolving the lens, there won't BE any difference. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Mini Cooper
On Sep 11, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/09/2014 10:15 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Sep 11, 2014, at 11:56 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/11/2014 3:19 AM, Larry Colen wrote: John Francis wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:07:13AM +1000, Philip Northeast wrote: A real Mini Cooper on teh race track https://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/15016470680/ Well, mostly on the track, anyway :-) I don't think the gratuitous insult was called for, though. I've driven both the original and the new Mini (including getting an old Mini with less wheels in contact with the pavement than the one you depict here), and I know which I think is the better car. My first car was an Austin America aka Austin 1300, mechanically nearly identical to the Mini Cooper S. The sesquiminis may be a better car in the way that only 50 years of technological progress can improve a car, however when you compare them to real minis they might as well be BMWs. Which is only because they are BMWs. And a much better car if one measures automotive virtue in terms of handling, practicality, performance and all the other standards One would hope so, wouldn't one? But this has nothing to do with the topic, does it? This thread has a topic? It’s a PESO. Nice shot. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
On 9/10/2014 3:43 PM, Darren Addy wrote: and new line of Sony cameras using them in January? Reported... http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-no-other-new-camera-from-sony-at-photokina-sr5-new-generation-sensor-and-cameras-release-in-january/ This is of interest, of course, since Pentax uses Sony sensors. 46 MP is darn close to the 645z's 51MP, though the pixel pitch would be quite different between the two. Would be interesting to see what the performance difference between the two will be. I think it also goes without saying that Nikon will probably be using this sensor, once sufficient quanities are available. In any event. I'm sure that Sony is going to give themselves a good lead time in the market before making them available to others. Wonder what the diffraction limit will be on those cameras? Is there any indication whatsoever (reliable rumor or otherwise) that Ricoh-Pentax would be interested in building a DSLR around this sensor? I still *want* a full frame Pentax DSLR, but I'm no longer have any hope that it will happen within my lifetime. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Mini Cooper
On 11/09/2014 12:17 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: This thread has a topic? It’s a PESO. Nice shot. Yeah, apparently the topic is about how butt hurt people get when someone says an original Mini is a real mini. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Mini Cooper
On Sep 11, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/09/2014 12:17 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: This thread has a topic? It’s a PESO. Nice shot. Yeah, apparently the topic is about how butt hurt people get when someone says an original Mini is a real mini. Oh. My. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
on 2014-09-11 1:22 Larry Colen wrote P.J. Alling wrote: 46mp in a 24x36mm sensor seems like they're pushing the ragged edge of physics. That's about the same pixel pitch as 24MP in a K-3. did the math — K-3 has significantly higher pixel density, so it would be the one pushing the ragged edge … megapixels per square millimeter: 46 mp / 864 sq mm = 0.054 (that's only 54,000 pixels per square millimeter) vs 24 mp / 367 sq mm = 0.065 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
the sensor NEEDS to outresolve the lens significantly so that diagonal lines dont have any jaggies On 9/11/2014 2:09 PM, Darren Addy wrote: You *want* your sensor to out-resolve the lens, people. Don't say it like it's a bad thing. I think that people are forgetting that if the sensor DOES NOT out-resolve the lens you theoretically have moire. This is why AA filters were necessary in the past, but as pixel pitch shrinks it becomes unnecessary. It is not that the problem of moire has disappeared, it is that the sensor over samples the image and eliminates most moire. This isn't a function of sensor size, but photosite size, which is why the Q can get away with no AA filter. This page is a nice demo (albeit at lower MP sizes than we are talking about): http://www.talkemount.com/showthread.php?t=387 You get the picture. (Also take note of his Conclusions) This example takes big jumps (1MP, 4MP, 16MP) so Luka's contention may be a good one. But put an 85mm Zeiss Otus at f/2.8 in front of the 36 MP and 46 MP sensor and I'd be interested in giving it a try. :) The point is that as sensors get better you have more headroom to improve you photography by *taking advantage* of better lenses. But there will probably be a point (particularly if you print large) at which you start to realize that some of your lenses are no longer passing muster. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com wrote: i bet that no one here could tell a difference between a 2x3 meter print from a 36mpix sensor and the one from a 48mpix sensor. even at close range. i would actually bet. And if the sensor's outresolving the lens, there won't BE any difference. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
World Trade Centre Burning
Hi all, It's that time of year when some of us think back to the horrific events of 9/11. At the time, I subscribed to the digest version of the list. I kept about 6 or 7 hour's worth of the PDML chatter from that day, a beginning portion of which I provide below. If you want all the digests I have from that day, email me off list and I will email them direct. Discretion assured. Cheers, Cotty -- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:31:54 -0400 From: Amita Guha bfift2g...@nyc.rr.com Subject: World Trade Center burning Have you guys heard about this? I can see it from my apartment. Two planes have crashed into the Twin Towers in Manhattan. - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:47:31 +0300 From: Alin Flaider alinflai...@xnet.ro Subject: Re[2]: MZ-s FPS (WAS: poor MZ-S review on epinions.com) Nicholas wrote: NW Anyway, my question is this, I have not seen for the NW MZ-S anything stating whether 2.5 fps is in continous or single AF mode. Can NW anyone help? If my MZ-5n can sustain a 2 fps while autofocusing the FA 28-70/4, I suspect the MZ-S holds on too at the maximum rate. Oh my God, I just found out about the terrorist attack over World Trade Center. It still sounds incredible. Bruce, Bob, hope you're alive and well. Servus, Alin - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:55:36 +0200 From: Daphne d...@netvision.net.il Subject: Re: World Trade Center burning I'm watching it on CNN. three kamikaze planes so far. and I thought that NY would take me away from local terrorists. Daphne - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:59:58 -0400 From: Robert Harris rharr...@pipeline.com Subject: OT Re: World Trade Center burning Amita Guha wrote: Have you guys heard about this? I can see it from my apartment. Two planes have crashed into the Twin Towers in Manhattan. Also an attack in Washington, DC. TYhese seem to be terrorist attacks. Latest from BBC: Two planes have crashed into the World Trade Center in New York City while another has exploded close to the Pentagon in Washington DC. The White House in the American capital is reportedly being evacuated. One report says six people have been killed in the World Trade Center attack while hundreds have been injured. Smoke is pouring from the upper storeys of both towers of the World Trade Center while latest pictures from Washington show smoke coming from an area near the Pentagon. Full story at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1537000/1537469.stm - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:03:36 -0400 From: Mick Maguire m...@maguire.net Subject: RE: World Trade Center burning Just about all the news web sites are blocked solid now. i have snagged a picture from CNN of the second plane about to hit, if anybody wants to see it mail me and I'll forward it. Regards, /\/\ick... ++ __/) Mick Maguire | | Email: m...@maguire.net | (_/) ICQ: 48609010 | \/ | \ /---+ - -Original Message- From: owner-pentax-disc...@pdml.net [mailto:owner-pentax-disc...@pdml.net]On Behalf Of Amita Guha Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:32 AM To: pentax-disc...@pdml.net Subject: World Trade Center burning Have you guys heard about this? I can see it from my apartment. Two planes have crashed into the Twin Towers in Manhattan. - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:07:02 -0500 From: Delano Mireles del...@mireles.com Subject: Re: World Trade Center burning Just heard it has collapsed. From: Mick Maguire m...@maguire.net Reply-To: pentax-disc...@pdml.net Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001
Auto tone in LR
I just used LR’s Auto Tone, under Library in the Quick Develop module, for the first time. Liked the results I got so much I started synchronizing them across groups of images shot under similar conditions. Am I cheating? When I look at the details of what was done in Develop mode I see that many small adjustments have been made. What I don’t like is that I’m not learning to make these adjustments my. In most cases I don’t even have any idea what the qualities changed are. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net You keep on learning and learning, and pretty soon you learn something no one has learned before. - Richard Feynman -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
On 11 Sep 2014, at 14:36, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: [...] Log scales can be another useful tool… My logs weigh more than your logs. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
steve harley wrote: on 2014-09-11 1:22 Larry Colen wrote P.J. Alling wrote: 46mp in a 24x36mm sensor seems like they're pushing the ragged edge of physics. That's about the same pixel pitch as 24MP in a K-3. did the math K-3 has significantly higher pixel density, so it would be the one pushing the ragged edge megapixels per square millimeter: 46 mp / 864 sq mm = 0.054 (that's only 54,000 pixels per square millimeter) vs 24 mp / 367 sq mm = 0.065 I really like the idea of judging sensors by pixel density rather than simple pixel count this puts APS-C and FF sensors on equal footing. By most reports, the 36-megapixel cameras are pushing the ragged edge, so the 24MP APS-C cameras are over it (as would the 46MP sensor). At this point they really seem to be pushing pixel density to the point of uselessness. Filling up hard drives with bigger files that carry no image benefit. It's all marketing. But if it works, more power to 'em. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Auto tone in LR
I dont use it in Quick develop mode but in the Develop window and for the most part it works fine for me. I often use the Sync then after that like for my horse shots under similar lighting. Saves a lot of time. Cheat away i say Dave On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: I just used LR’s Auto Tone, under Library in the Quick Develop module, for the first time. Liked the results I got so much I started synchronizing them across groups of images shot under similar conditions. Am I cheating? When I look at the details of what was done in Develop mode I see that many small adjustments have been made. What I don’t like is that I’m not learning to make these adjustments my. In most cases I don’t even have any idea what the qualities changed are. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net You keep on learning and learning, and pretty soon you learn something no one has learned before. - Richard Feynman -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Auto tone in LR
On 11 Sep 2014, at 22:37, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: I just used LR’s Auto Tone, under Library in the Quick Develop module, for the first time. Liked the results I got so much I started synchronizing them across groups of images shot under similar conditions. Am I cheating? When I look at the details of what was done in Develop mode I see that many small adjustments have been made. What I don’t like is that I’m not learning to make these adjustments my. In most cases I don’t even have any idea what the qualities changed are. Autotone is useful - it can rescue bad exposures - but it can also completely blitz any sort of nice light or shadow, eg 'golden hour' stuff, and just average everything if you're a bit overenthusiastic with it. i like to see what it can do, but for semi-automatic processing I think the presets Medium Contrast Curve, Sharpen (face or scenic) and Punch do a pretty good job, and you can twiddle with curves and colour temp to fine tune a bit. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
on 2014-09-11 15:12 JC OConnell wrote the sensor NEEDS to outresolve the lens significantly so that diagonal lines dont have any jaggies i'm not sure that's correct; a lens that underperforms the sensor should reduce moire, but a diagonal line projected very sharply onto a sensor should still pretty much anti-alias itself did anyone have problems with jaggies when using very sharp lenses on 8mp cameras? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
I don't have any idea if John's point about diagonal lines is valid or not, but... did anyone have problems with jaggies when using very sharp lenses on 8mp cameras? ...i think that this question is irrelevant unless someone was answering the question with a camera that lacked an anti-alias filter. I doubt that there were any in 8MP days. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 5:26 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2014-09-11 15:12 JC OConnell wrote the sensor NEEDS to outresolve the lens significantly so that diagonal lines dont have any jaggies i'm not sure that's correct; a lens that underperforms the sensor should reduce moire, but a diagonal line projected very sharply onto a sensor should still pretty much anti-alias itself did anyone have problems with jaggies when using very sharp lenses on 8mp cameras? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
on 2014-09-11 16:45 Darren Addy wrote did anyone have problems with jaggies when using very sharp lenses on 8mp cameras? ...i think that this question is irrelevant unless someone was answering the question with a camera that lacked an anti-alias filter. I doubt that there were any in 8MP days. more or less a hypothetical question however the use of anti-alias filters in the first place moots the premise — no matter how sharp the lens, an AA filter will make it under-resolve the sensor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: World Trade Centre Burning
Thanks for posting. But not a good memory. Didn't see this at the time. I was on a plane getting ready to take off for Mexico City. Paul via phone On Sep 11, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: Hi all, It's that time of year when some of us think back to the horrific events of 9/11. At the time, I subscribed to the digest version of the list. I kept about 6 or 7 hour's worth of the PDML chatter from that day, a beginning portion of which I provide below. If you want all the digests I have from that day, email me off list and I will email them direct. Discretion assured. Cheers, Cotty -- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:31:54 -0400 From: Amita Guha bfift2g...@nyc.rr.com Subject: World Trade Center burning Have you guys heard about this? I can see it from my apartment. Two planes have crashed into the Twin Towers in Manhattan. - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:47:31 +0300 From: Alin Flaider alinflai...@xnet.ro Subject: Re[2]: MZ-s FPS (WAS: poor MZ-S review on epinions.com) Nicholas wrote: NW Anyway, my question is this, I have not seen for the NW MZ-S anything stating whether 2.5 fps is in continous or single AF mode. Can NW anyone help? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Auto tone in LR
On 9/11/2014 5:36 PM, Eric Weir wrote: I just used LR’s Auto Tone, under Library in the Quick Develop module, for the first time. Liked the results I got so much I started synchronizing them across groups of images shot under similar conditions. Am I cheating? If you're not cheating, you ain't trying hard enough! When I look at the details of what was done in Develop mode I see that many small adjustments have been made. What I don’t like is that I’m not learning to make these adjustments my. In most cases I don’t even have any idea what the qualities changed are. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net You keep on learning and learning, and pretty soon you learn something no one has learned before. - Richard Feynman -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: World Trade Centre Burning
Oh Cotty - no no no I look out my window at the twin lights right now - far close than Amita, you know. I hide every 9/11 - no TV They milk it in NY - disgusting ann On 9/11/2014 17:27, Steve Cottrell wrote: Hi all, It's that time of year when some of us think back to the horrific events of 9/11. At the time, I subscribed to the digest version of the list. I kept about 6 or 7 hour's worth of the PDML chatter from that day, a beginning portion of which I provide below. If you want all the digests I have from that day, email me off list and I will email them direct. Discretion assured. Cheers, Cotty -- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:31:54 -0400 From: Amita Guha bfift2g...@nyc.rr.com Subject: World Trade Center burning Have you guys heard about this? I can see it from my apartment. Two planes have crashed into the Twin Towers in Manhattan. - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:47:31 +0300 From: Alin Flaider alinflai...@xnet.ro Subject: Re[2]: MZ-s FPS (WAS: poor MZ-S review on epinions.com) Nicholas wrote: NW Anyway, my question is this, I have not seen for the NW MZ-S anything stating whether 2.5 fps is in continous or single AF mode. Can NW anyone help? If my MZ-5n can sustain a 2 fps while autofocusing the FA 28-70/4, I suspect the MZ-S holds on too at the maximum rate. Oh my God, I just found out about the terrorist attack over World Trade Center. It still sounds incredible. Bruce, Bob, hope you're alive and well. Servus, Alin - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:55:36 +0200 From: Daphne d...@netvision.net.il Subject: Re: World Trade Center burning I'm watching it on CNN. three kamikaze planes so far. and I thought that NY would take me away from local terrorists. Daphne - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:59:58 -0400 From: Robert Harris rharr...@pipeline.com Subject: OT Re: World Trade Center burning Amita Guha wrote: Have you guys heard about this? I can see it from my apartment. Two planes have crashed into the Twin Towers in Manhattan. Also an attack in Washington, DC. TYhese seem to be terrorist attacks. Latest from BBC: Two planes have crashed into the World Trade Center in New York City while another has exploded close to the Pentagon in Washington DC. The White House in the American capital is reportedly being evacuated. One report says six people have been killed in the World Trade Center attack while hundreds have been injured. Smoke is pouring from the upper storeys of both towers of the World Trade Center while latest pictures from Washington show smoke coming from an area near the Pentagon. Full story at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1537000/1537469.stm - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:03:36 -0400 From: Mick Maguire m...@maguire.net Subject: RE: World Trade Center burning Just about all the news web sites are blocked solid now. i have snagged a picture from CNN of the second plane about to hit, if anybody wants to see it mail me and I'll forward it. Regards, /\/\ick... ++ __/) Mick Maguire | | Email: m...@maguire.net | (_/) ICQ: 48609010 | \/ | \ /---+ - -Original Message- From: owner-pentax-disc...@pdml.net [mailto:owner-pentax-disc...@pdml.net]On Behalf Of Amita Guha Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:32 AM To: pentax-disc...@pdml.net Subject: World Trade Center burning Have you guys heard about this? I can see it from my apartment. Two planes have crashed into the Twin Towers in Manhattan. - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:07:02
Re: PESO watch the birdie
Thank you, Ann. On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Nice grab shot! ann On 8/6/2014 09:46, Bruce Walker wrote: Took a trip down to Bronte Harbour in Oakville on Monday to catch a new musician friend doing a solo matinee gig at a vegan cafe. I was lining up for a candid shot of his girlfriend Katie when my wife cried out, oh look, there's a Buteo up there. I took a quick look to verify it was a Red Tailed Hawk then turned back to grab this portrait. http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/93969169352 K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:3.2, 1/250th, ISO 1600. Comments welcome! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
Sent from my iPad On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: On 11 Sep 2014, at 14:36, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: [...] Log scales can be another useful tool… My logs weigh more than your logs. B -- Ah, but my logs crackle and pop nicely when used to mull wine! stan PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO-A Young Lady on a Bike
I agree about the blurry guy. I couldn't figure a way to crop him out in a way that worked. Thanks for the comment! Cheers, frank On 7 September, 2014 8:31:11 PM EDT, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Yep legs, I sure do like legs. especially healthy legs attached to a female. FWIW I don't think the blurry fellow adds. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO-A Young Lady on a Bike Some images need to stay in colour: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2014/09/a-young-lady-on-bike.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO-A Young Lady on a Bike
Thanks, Rick, and thanks to everyone else who commented. It was dusk and darker than I thought. The slow shutter speed worked though. Just one of those quick-reaction snaps. Glad you all enjoyed. :-) Cheers, frank On 9 September, 2014 8:28:33 PM EDT, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote: Nice composition, great color, excellent panning, attractive subject. Well done! Rick On Sep 7, 2014, at 8:17 PM, knarf wrote: Some images need to stay in colour: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2014/09/a-young-lady-on-bike.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://photo.net/photos/RickW “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Mimesis
Interesting stuff. I think I prefer the more representational stuff but it's all very interesting. I think it will look great up on a wall. Cheers, frank On 10 September, 2014 8:53:28 AM EDT, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Images #1-6 from my Mimesis project, a continuing series. NSFW, but just artistic nudity. The model is the amazing Fredau. http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/97065397892/mimesis-1-6-with-fredau While it's digital composited art, I mostly stuck to techniques that are plausible with double exposures. All components shot by me on the K-3 with a mix of lenses: DA 35/2.8 Macro Ltd, DA* 16-50/2.8 SDM, DA* 50-135/2.8 SDM. Comments welcome. Enjoy! “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
My Wife, Marlene
Marlene is having surgery at 10 am tomorrow for colorectal cancer. No other organs involved but quite a few lymph nodes must be removed, including one next to the aorta. Been sorting this out since she was diagnosed last month. Not easy, but It’s the hand we were dealt. Prayers and positive thoughts appreciated. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Wife, Marlene
You and your wife are in my thoughts, Paul. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On September 12, 2014 6:17:48 AM Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Marlene is having surgery at 10 am tomorrow for colorectal cancer. No other organs involved but quite a few lymph nodes must be removed, including one next to the aorta. Been sorting this out since she was diagnosed last month. Not easy, but It’s the hand we were dealt. Prayers and positive thoughts appreciated. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Wife, Marlene
Best wishes to Marlene for a positive outcome, I'm betting that you've made sure that she's in the best of hands, positive thoughts to Marlene, you and your family. On 12 September 2014 13:17, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Marlene is having surgery at 10 am tomorrow for colorectal cancer. No other organs involved but quite a few lymph nodes must be removed, including one next to the aorta. Been sorting this out since she was diagnosed last month. Not easy, but It’s the hand we were dealt. Prayers and positive thoughts appreciated. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO watch the birdie
Xlnt! :-) Cheers, frank On 11 September, 2014 8:54:37 PM EDT, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Ann. On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Nice grab shot! ann On 8/6/2014 09:46, Bruce Walker wrote: Took a trip down to Bronte Harbour in Oakville on Monday to catch a new musician friend doing a solo matinee gig at a vegan cafe. I was lining up for a candid shot of his girlfriend Katie when my wife cried out, oh look, there's a Buteo up there. I took a quick look to verify it was a Red Tailed Hawk then turned back to grab this portrait. http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/93969169352 K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:3.2, 1/250th, ISO 1600. Comments welcome! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Wife, Marlene
Paul, We will keep her in our thoughts. You too. Hope the surgery goes well. Bob Lynn On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Marlene is having surgery at 10 am tomorrow for colorectal cancer. No other organs involved but quite a few lymph nodes must be removed, including one next to the aorta. Been sorting this out since she was diagnosed last month. Not easy, but It’s the hand we were dealt. Prayers and positive thoughts appreciated. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Wife, Marlene
Paul, Good luck, and all the best! Igor On September 12, 2014 6:17:48 AM Paul Stenquist wrote: Marlene is having surgery at 10 am tomorrow for colorectal cancer. No other organs involved but quite a few lymph nodes must be removed, including one next to the aorta. Been sorting this out since she was diagnosed last month. Not easy, but It.s the hand we were dealt. Prayers and positive thoughts appreciated. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Wife, Marlene
Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: Marlene is having surgery at 10 am tomorrow for colorectal cancer. No other organs involved but quite a few lymph nodes must be removed, including one next to the aorta. Been sorting this out since she was diagnosed last month. Not easy, but It?s the hand we were dealt. Prayers and positive thoughts appreciated. I'm really sorry to hear that, Paul. As a cancer survivor I know that this is a stressful time for all concerned. My thoughts and best wishes for a complete recovery to Marlene, yourself and your family. Best wishes Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO-A Young Lady on a Bike
A very dynamic image, Frank! Textbook panning and perfect timing on the shutter button. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:37 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Rick, and thanks to everyone else who commented. It was dusk and darker than I thought. The slow shutter speed worked though. Just one of those quick-reaction snaps. Glad you all enjoyed. :-) Cheers, frank On 9 September, 2014 8:28:33 PM EDT, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote: Nice composition, great color, excellent panning, attractive subject. Well done! Rick On Sep 7, 2014, at 8:17 PM, knarf wrote: Some images need to stay in colour: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2014/09/a-young-lady-on-bike.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://photo.net/photos/RickW “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Wife, Marlene
Sorry to hear it, as well. Stressful for everyone, I'm sure (to say the least). Best wishes for coming through with flying colors. We are with you and Marlene in spirit. Looking forward to your sharing good news out the other side. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: Marlene is having surgery at 10 am tomorrow for colorectal cancer. No other organs involved but quite a few lymph nodes must be removed, including one next to the aorta. Been sorting this out since she was diagnosed last month. Not easy, but It?s the hand we were dealt. Prayers and positive thoughts appreciated. I'm really sorry to hear that, Paul. As a cancer survivor I know that this is a stressful time for all concerned. My thoughts and best wishes for a complete recovery to Marlene, yourself and your family. Best wishes Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Wife, Marlene
She couldn't have a better man by her side. Thoughts with Marlene, Grace and you at this difficult time. Hoping for the best possible outcome for tomorrow. All the best, frank On 11 September, 2014 11:17:15 PM EDT, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Marlene is having surgery at 10 am tomorrow for colorectal cancer. No other organs involved but quite a few lymph nodes must be removed, including one next to the aorta. Been sorting this out since she was diagnosed last month. Not easy, but It’s the hand we were dealt. Prayers and positive thoughts appreciated. Paul “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Wife, Marlene
May the peace of the Lord be with you all at this difficult time. You are in our prayers. Alan Ann C -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 5:17 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: My Wife, Marlene Marlene is having surgery at 10 am tomorrow for colorectal cancer. No other organs involved but quite a few lymph nodes must be removed, including one next to the aorta. Been sorting this out since she was diagnosed last month. Not easy, but It’s the hand we were dealt. Prayers and positive thoughts appreciated. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Wife, Marlene
On 11/09/2014 9:17 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Marlene is having surgery at 10 am tomorrow for colorectal cancer. No other organs involved but quite a few lymph nodes must be removed, including one next to the aorta. Been sorting this out since she was diagnosed last month. Not easy, but It’s the hand we were dealt. Prayers and positive thoughts appreciated. Paul I'm not a Christian boy, I doubt if prayer will do anything, but as many positive thoughts as I can muster are being sent your way. Stay positive and she will need you to be as strong as you are able. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Wife, Marlene
Hi Paul: Darrel and I send the very best wishes and positive thoughts to Marlene and the rest of the Stenquist family! Christine Darrel Sent from my iPad On Sep 11, 2014, at 10:17 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Marlene is having surgery at 10 am tomorrow for colorectal cancer. No other organs involved but quite a few lymph nodes must be removed, including one next to the aorta. Been sorting this out since she was diagnosed last month. Not easy, but It’s the hand we were dealt. Prayers and positive thoughts appreciated. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Wife, Marlene
on 2014-09-11 21:17 Paul Stenquist wrote Marlene is having surgery at 10 am tomorrow for colorectal cancer. i'll have Marlene in my thoughts, Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Wife, Marlene
Knowing about this earlier, mine have been in place for a little while it was good to see the outpouring of support here this evening. It's hard on you, too, we all know. Glad Marlene has you. Please give her my love. ann On 9/11/2014 23:17, Paul Stenquist wrote: Marlene is having surgery at 10 am tomorrow for colorectal cancer. No other organs involved but quite a few lymph nodes must be removed, including one next to the aorta. Been sorting this out since she was diagnosed last month. Not easy, but It’s the hand we were dealt. Prayers and positive thoughts appreciated. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
I'm seeing pretty impressive results from the K3 coupled with the Sigma 18-35/1.8 in studio. Editing shots from a session last week from a pretty loosely shot group portrait of 11 I found some moire in a small headpiece of fine netting. I'm not sure if the lens is out-resolving the sensor but it's probably close. Suffice to say it's impressive, it's always nice to have more data to work with but I'm not sure that it's of practical benefit. On 12 September 2014 08:14, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: steve harley wrote: on 2014-09-11 1:22 Larry Colen wrote P.J. Alling wrote: 46mp in a 24x36mm sensor seems like they're pushing the ragged edge of physics. That's about the same pixel pitch as 24MP in a K-3. did the math — K-3 has significantly higher pixel density, so it would be the one pushing the ragged edge … megapixels per square millimeter: 46 mp / 864 sq mm = 0.054 (that's only 54,000 pixels per square millimeter) vs 24 mp / 367 sq mm = 0.065 I really like the idea of judging sensors by pixel density rather than simple pixel count – this puts APS-C and FF sensors on equal footing. By most reports, the 36-megapixel cameras are pushing the ragged edge, so the 24MP APS-C cameras are over it (as would the 46MP sensor). At this point they really seem to be pushing pixel density to the point of uselessness. Filling up hard drives with bigger files that carry no image benefit. It's all marketing. But if it works, more power to 'em. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Wife, Marlene
All the best to both of you for a positive outcome. May her doctor's hands be sure and steady. -p On 9/11/2014 10:17 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Marlene is having surgery at 10 am tomorrow for colorectal cancer. No other organs involved but quite a few lymph nodes must be removed, including one next to the aorta. Been sorting this out since she was diagnosed last month. Not easy, but It’s the hand we were dealt. Prayers and positive thoughts appreciated. Paul -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
Actually resolution unlike sharpness can be objectively measured. On 9/11/2014 1:26 PM, Jack Davis wrote: It's obviously all about marketing. Lens resolution is elusive and unique to each sample, therefore is as high as it's owner decides. IOW, they will find what they're looking for. Camera handling notwithstanding(???) Jack - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:46:50 AM Subject: Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: And I suspect a rounded pixel count increase of 28% will be viewed as a significant step. Since the current 36-megapixel camersa already out-resolve most available lenses it's a 28% increase in storage space with little or no improvement in image quality. As John says, whether it's successful marketing or not is what counts. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Auto tone in LR
Not cheating, what ever works is fine. On 9/11/2014 5:36 PM, Eric Weir wrote: I just used LR’s Auto Tone, under Library in the Quick Develop module, for the first time. Liked the results I got so much I started synchronizing them across groups of images shot under similar conditions. Am I cheating? When I look at the details of what was done in Develop mode I see that many small adjustments have been made. What I don’t like is that I’m not learning to make these adjustments my. In most cases I don’t even have any idea what the qualities changed are. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net You keep on learning and learning, and pretty soon you learn something no one has learned before. - Richard Feynman -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
