Re: Diesels

[mike wilson]

> On 14 December 2016 at 03:22 Bill  wrote:
> Yeah. This is a brand new truck with just over 2000km on it. I'm going 
> to let the dealer figure it out. It's good for them to learn new stuff. 
> I really think it's a faulty block heater. On every other vehicle I've 
> owned, unplugging the heater cable produces a spark at the plug (it's 
> really dry at -20). This thing, no spark.

OK.  I'd like to know the outcome.

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Re: PESO - 'Standing out in the lake'

[Ken Waller]

Thanks so much for your thoughtful comments Dan, glad you liked it.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 

Subject: Re: PESO - 'Standing out in the lake'



Oh, that is simply wonderful!

It has a very strong composition, with a lot of textures and, obviously
striking symmetry.

This peaceful scene works as a landscape, an abstract and a nature study
all at once.

Pleasing to the eye, the more I look at it, the more I see to like.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:56 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:


Taken last fall in Seney National Wildlife Refuge in the Upper Peninsula
of Michigan

K3 and 300mm f4.5 FA

Comments ?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18320529

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Re: GESO Benefit for Pete

[Larry Colen]

Paul Stenquist wrote:

I like both, but the BW could be intriguing. It is a bit dark, although I think 
the black point is good. I would do a levels adjustment and move the white 
point quite a bit, ignoring those speculate highlights.


Thanks a bunch, I think that really helped. I mostly just moved the 
"whites" slider to the right.




Paul via phone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 9:16 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:



Paul Stenquist wrote:

Some excellent shots, I love 32108.

Thanks a bunch Paul.  I'm curious how people feel about it in color:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30773675534/in/album-72157673913999413/

versus black and white:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30790503864/in/album-72157673913999413/

And if the B is too dark.



Paul via phone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Larry Colen   wrote:



Marco Alpert wrote:

Well. if you hadn’t told us you weren’t happy with the focusing, we wouldn’t 
know it from this set. Nice stuff!

Thanks Marco.  Despite my reputation to the contrary, I actually do know how to 
refrain from showing the crappy photos.

Also thanks to Dan and Malcolm, and everyone else who had a look.

   LRC


- Marco


On Dec 13, 2016, at 12:26 AM, Larry Colenwrote:

Some friends of mine run a weekly blues jam.  Tonight was the last one this 
year, and they did it as a benefit to raise money for a friend (the fellow in 
the first six frames of the set).  Most of these were shot with the K-1 and the 
FA 80-200/2.8, a few with the 15-30 and the 28-105, and one with my bigma.  I 
think I lost fewer shots to missed focus than with earlier bodies, but I'm 
still not completely happy with the focusing on the K-1.

Lighting was with led spots, with a lot of blue in the back.

If anyone has hints for how to increase the autofocus hit rate when 
photographing musicians moving around on stage, I'm interested.
On the plus side, the K-1 doesn't seem to obsess on the microphone as badly as 
previous bodies did either.

I don't know if I got any knockout photos, but I trimmed down the facebook set 
to 41 competent frames for flickr, I'm pretty happy with the set:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673913999413

For gear heads who want to see the exif data:
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673913999413

I haven't yet applied any noise reduction via the slider in lightroom.

Comments and such are appreciated as always.


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Re: PESO: A bit of creative fun

[John]

Just don't blink.

On 12/13/2016 10:11 PM, PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com wrote:

Ann - Belated Happy Birthday and forewarn you that this photo was taken
at my favorite cemetery but it will be safe for you to view it.

This probably won't be everyone's cup of coffee/tea but I was in a
creative mood with some of the recent photos created while visiting
Mount Olivet Cemetery here in Nashville TN.

Silhouette of winged angel colorful background
http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/digitally_altered_captures_and_abstract_captures/e28cfd177


Now for those that would like to see the originals ( Ann don't look at
these) of the visit to Mount Olivet Cemetery.

http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/mount_olivet_cemetery_nashvilletn_ii

Ann hope you went out partying or at least got out on your birthday with
your camera.

Happy Holidays to everyone..


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Re: Almost on topic

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 10:16 PM, John  wrote:

> Wasn't Asahi the original name for the cameras they manufactured &
> Pentax was a model name they applied to their reflex cameras when they
> added the pentaprism?
>

Yes.  My first Pentax had "Asahi" on it, as well as "Pentax" and
"Spotmatic."  It looked like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/142197065123?lpid=82=ps_noapp=true

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Re: PESO - Balboa Park 2

[John]

The best thing about Balboa Park are the aviaries at the San Diego Zoo.

On 12/13/2016 9:13 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

Ha - oh that is sooo tacky!

ann


On 12/13/2016 8:48 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

A bit more distinctive architecture:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18318869

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated.

Rick




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Re: New Box Build.

[John]

On 12/13/2016 8:49 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

So Friday I decided to finally upgrade my Photo PC to Win7.

Saturday I obtained a small fast HD for the system and a copy of Windows
7 Ultimate.

After two days of update HELL, (can someone please tell me why Microsoft
has created an updating system that's so buggy that it tries to install
already installed updates multiple times).

I decided to buy a SSD from which to run the OS and primary programs ,
and bought the cheapest 240gb SSD I could find.

The improvement in performance is phenomenal.   Even though the drive is
cheap, (did I mention that?), it /seems/ to be hundreds of times faster
than the mechanical drive.  Which will still serve a purpose.  It's
going to be a live backup of the finished system, just in case.

Now all I have to do is install all my data HDs and reinstall my tools,
but reboots, and configurations take orders of magnitude less time.

Next upgrade will be to max out the memory.




Another thing that can speed Photoshop is to add a second SSD & use it
for nothing but Photoshop's scratch disk. NewEgg has 120GB SSDs for less
than $50.


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Re: Diesels

[Bill]

On 12/13/2016 9:09 PM, mike wilson wrote:

On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Bill  wrote:

 > I just got a call from the dealer, the block heater checks out, but they
 > can't check the glow plugs until next week when their diesel tech is
 > working.

Easy to test yourself that there is power to the rail(s?) by using a multimeter
or even a bulb and two wires. But you would need to find some way to turn the
ignition on without triggering the start sequence.  There must be a way to do
that but it might be a hidden one so that idiot owners don't flatten the
battery.

Other, vague possibilities: improperly insulated fuel lines/tank.  Even winter
diesel has its limits and lying in a metal fuel line overnight will get it as
cold as it is going to be.  I would suggest the old trick of adding petrol to
the tank but the seals on modern engines' ancillaries are likely to object to
that.  Coolant temperature sender - these usually fail so that they make the
engine think it is cold.  If yours has failed so that the engine thinks it is
warm, it might not be triggering the glow plugs.



Yeah. This is a brand new truck with just over 2000km on it. I'm going 
to let the dealer figure it out. It's good for them to learn new stuff. 
I really think it's a faulty block heater. On every other vehicle I've 
owned, unplugging the heater cable produces a spark at the plug (it's 
really dry at -20). This thing, no spark.


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Re: Almost on topic

[John]

I believe when they first got into manufacturing cameras Asahi was a
"horizontally integrated" (??) conglomerate; the company that owned the
breweries also owned newspapers, manufacturing, glass-making ... they
started spinning off various subsidiaries post WWII.

Wasn't Asahi the original name for the cameras they manufactured &
Pentax was a model name they applied to their reflex cameras when they
added the pentaprism? And the camera brand morphed into Asahi Pentax and
then into Pentax alone?

Or I could be wrong. It's not really that important. I just ran across
the article & noticed the name.

On 12/13/2016 2:35 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Asahi is a decent beer.

Of course, Asahi is a common brand name used by many unrelated Japanese
companies.  "Asa hi" means "morning sun," which is an alternative for
"rising sun," the symbol of japan.  (The Japanese name for their country,
Nihon or Nippon, means "origin of the sun," a name borrowed from the
Chinese, which view their own country as the Middle Kingdom and Japan as
the land of the origin of the (ie rising" sun.  I believe the largest
Japanese newspaper is still Asahi Shinbun.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 1:32 PM, John  wrote:


http://www.wsj.com/articles/ab-inbev-to-sell-eastern-europe-
beer-brands-to-asahi-for-7-8-billion-1481613040




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PESO: A bit of creative fun

[PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com]

Ann - Belated Happy Birthday and forewarn you that this photo was taken 
at my favorite cemetery but it will be safe for you to view it.


This probably won't be everyone's cup of coffee/tea but I was in a 
creative mood with some of the recent photos created while visiting 
Mount Olivet Cemetery here in Nashville TN.


Silhouette of winged angel colorful background
http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/digitally_altered_captures_and_abstract_captures/e28cfd177

Now for those that would like to see the originals ( Ann don't look at 
these) of the visit to Mount Olivet Cemetery.


http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/mount_olivet_cemetery_nashvilletn_ii

Ann hope you went out partying or at least got out on your birthday with 
your camera.


Happy Holidays to everyone..
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/Bringing joy and happiness to lonely and depressed walls across the 
planet with wonderful diverse range of photography./


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Re: Diesels

[mike wilson]

> On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Bill  wrote:
 > I just got a call from the dealer, the block heater checks out, but they
 > can't check the glow plugs until next week when their diesel tech is
 > working.

Easy to test yourself that there is power to the rail(s?) by using a multimeter
or even a bulb and two wires. But you would need to find some way to turn the
ignition on without triggering the start sequence.  There must be a way to do
that but it might be a hidden one so that idiot owners don't flatten the
battery.

Other, vague possibilities: improperly insulated fuel lines/tank.  Even winter
diesel has its limits and lying in a metal fuel line overnight will get it as
cold as it is going to be.  I would suggest the old trick of adding petrol to
the tank but the seals on modern engines' ancillaries are likely to object to
that.  Coolant temperature sender - these usually fail so that they make the
engine think it is cold.  If yours has failed so that the engine thinks it is
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Re: GESO Benefit for Pete

[Paul Stenquist]

Ignoring the specular highlights...

Paul via phone

> On Dec 13, 2016, at 9:28 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> I like both, but the BW could be intriguing. It is a bit dark, although I 
> think the black point is good. I would do a levels adjustment and move the 
> white point quite a bit, ignoring those speculate highlights.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Dec 13, 2016, at 9:16 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> Some excellent shots, I love 32108.
>> 
>> Thanks a bunch Paul.  I'm curious how people feel about it in color:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30773675534/in/album-72157673913999413/
>> 
>> versus black and white:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30790503864/in/album-72157673913999413/
>> 
>> And if the B is too dark.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Paul via phone
>>> 
 On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
 
 
 
 Marco Alpert wrote:
> Well. if you hadn’t told us you weren’t happy with the focusing, we 
> wouldn’t know it from this set. Nice stuff!
 Thanks Marco.  Despite my reputation to the contrary, I actually do know 
 how to refrain from showing the crappy photos.
 
 Also thanks to Dan and Malcolm, and everyone else who had a look.
 
  LRC
 
> - Marco
> 
>> On Dec 13, 2016, at 12:26 AM, Larry Colen   wrote:
>> 
>> Some friends of mine run a weekly blues jam.  Tonight was the last one 
>> this year, and they did it as a benefit to raise money for a friend (the 
>> fellow in the first six frames of the set).  Most of these were shot 
>> with the K-1 and the FA 80-200/2.8, a few with the 15-30 and the 28-105, 
>> and one with my bigma.  I think I lost fewer shots to missed focus than 
>> with earlier bodies, but I'm still not completely happy with the 
>> focusing on the K-1.
>> 
>> Lighting was with led spots, with a lot of blue in the back.
>> 
>> If anyone has hints for how to increase the autofocus hit rate when 
>> photographing musicians moving around on stage, I'm interested.
>> On the plus side, the K-1 doesn't seem to obsess on the microphone as 
>> badly as previous bodies did either.
>> 
>> I don't know if I got any knockout photos, but I trimmed down the 
>> facebook set to 41 competent frames for flickr, I'm pretty happy with 
>> the set:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673913999413
>> 
>> For gear heads who want to see the exif data:
>> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673913999413
>> 
>> I haven't yet applied any noise reduction via the slider in lightroom.
>> 
>> Comments and such are appreciated as always.
>> 
>> 
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Re: GESO Benefit for Pete

[Paul Stenquist]

I like both, but the BW could be intriguing. It is a bit dark, although I think 
the black point is good. I would do a levels adjustment and move the white 
point quite a bit, ignoring those speculate highlights.

Paul via phone

> On Dec 13, 2016, at 9:16 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Some excellent shots, I love 32108.
> 
> Thanks a bunch Paul.  I'm curious how people feel about it in color:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30773675534/in/album-72157673913999413/
> 
> versus black and white:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30790503864/in/album-72157673913999413/
> 
> And if the B is too dark.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marco Alpert wrote:
 Well. if you hadn’t told us you weren’t happy with the focusing, we 
 wouldn’t know it from this set. Nice stuff!
>>> Thanks Marco.  Despite my reputation to the contrary, I actually do know 
>>> how to refrain from showing the crappy photos.
>>> 
>>> Also thanks to Dan and Malcolm, and everyone else who had a look.
>>> 
>>>   LRC
>>> 
 - Marco
 
> On Dec 13, 2016, at 12:26 AM, Larry Colen   wrote:
> 
> Some friends of mine run a weekly blues jam.  Tonight was the last one 
> this year, and they did it as a benefit to raise money for a friend (the 
> fellow in the first six frames of the set).  Most of these were shot with 
> the K-1 and the FA 80-200/2.8, a few with the 15-30 and the 28-105, and 
> one with my bigma.  I think I lost fewer shots to missed focus than with 
> earlier bodies, but I'm still not completely happy with the focusing on 
> the K-1.
> 
> Lighting was with led spots, with a lot of blue in the back.
> 
> If anyone has hints for how to increase the autofocus hit rate when 
> photographing musicians moving around on stage, I'm interested.
> On the plus side, the K-1 doesn't seem to obsess on the microphone as 
> badly as previous bodies did either.
> 
> I don't know if I got any knockout photos, but I trimmed down the 
> facebook set to 41 competent frames for flickr, I'm pretty happy with the 
> set:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673913999413
> 
> For gear heads who want to see the exif data:
> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673913999413
> 
> I haven't yet applied any noise reduction via the slider in lightroom.
> 
> Comments and such are appreciated as always.
> 
> 
> --
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Re: GESO Benefit for Pete

[Larry Colen]

Paul Stenquist wrote:

Some excellent shots, I love 32108.


Thanks a bunch Paul.  I'm curious how people feel about it in color:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30773675534/in/album-72157673913999413/

versus black and white:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30790503864/in/album-72157673913999413/

And if the B is too dark.




Paul via phone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:



Marco Alpert wrote:

Well. if you hadn’t told us you weren’t happy with the focusing, we wouldn’t 
know it from this set. Nice stuff!

Thanks Marco.  Despite my reputation to the contrary, I actually do know how to 
refrain from showing the crappy photos.

Also thanks to Dan and Malcolm, and everyone else who had a look.

   LRC


- Marco


On Dec 13, 2016, at 12:26 AM, Larry Colen   wrote:

Some friends of mine run a weekly blues jam.  Tonight was the last one this 
year, and they did it as a benefit to raise money for a friend (the fellow in 
the first six frames of the set).  Most of these were shot with the K-1 and the 
FA 80-200/2.8, a few with the 15-30 and the 28-105, and one with my bigma.  I 
think I lost fewer shots to missed focus than with earlier bodies, but I'm 
still not completely happy with the focusing on the K-1.

Lighting was with led spots, with a lot of blue in the back.

If anyone has hints for how to increase the autofocus hit rate when 
photographing musicians moving around on stage, I'm interested.
On the plus side, the K-1 doesn't seem to obsess on the microphone as badly as 
previous bodies did either.

I don't know if I got any knockout photos, but I trimmed down the facebook set 
to 41 competent frames for flickr, I'm pretty happy with the set:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673913999413

For gear heads who want to see the exif data:
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673913999413

I haven't yet applied any noise reduction via the slider in lightroom.

Comments and such are appreciated as always.


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Re: PESO - 'Standing out in the lake'

[ann sanfedele]

Ken  - that's lovely would have worked well for the tranquil PUG  - 
definitely nice geometry :-)


ann



On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:56 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:


Taken last fall in Seney National Wildlife Refuge in the Upper Peninsula
of Michigan

K3 and 300mm f4.5 FA

Comments ?

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Kenneth Waller
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Re: PESO - Balboa Park 2

[ann sanfedele]

Ha - oh that is sooo tacky!

ann


On 12/13/2016 8:48 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

A bit more distinctive architecture:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18318869

(K-5, DA 16-45)

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New Box Build.

[P. J. Alling]

So Friday I decided to finally upgrade my Photo PC to Win7.

Saturday I obtained a small fast HD for the system and a copy of Windows 
7 Ultimate.


After two days of update HELL, (can someone please tell me why Microsoft 
has created an updating system that's so buggy that it tries to install 
already installed updates multiple times).


I decided to buy a SSD from which to run the OS and primary programs , 
and bought the cheapest 240gb SSD I could find.


The improvement in performance is phenomenal.   Even though the drive is 
cheap, (did I mention that?), it /seems/ to be hundreds of times faster 
than the mechanical drive.  Which will still serve a purpose.  It's 
going to be a live backup of the finished system, just in case.


Now all I have to do is install all my data HDs and reinstall my tools, 
but reboots, and configurations take orders of magnitude less time.


Next upgrade will be to max out the memory.


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PESO - Balboa Park 2

[Rick Womer]

A bit more distinctive architecture:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18318869

(K-5, DA 16-45)

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Re: GESO Benefit for Pete

[Paul Stenquist]

Some excellent shots, I love 32108.

Paul via phone

> On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Marco Alpert wrote:
>> Well. if you hadn’t told us you weren’t happy with the focusing, we wouldn’t 
>> know it from this set. Nice stuff!
> 
> Thanks Marco.  Despite my reputation to the contrary, I actually do know how 
> to refrain from showing the crappy photos.
> 
> Also thanks to Dan and Malcolm, and everyone else who had a look.
> 
>   LRC
> 
>> 
>> - Marco
>> 
>>> On Dec 13, 2016, at 12:26 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Some friends of mine run a weekly blues jam.  Tonight was the last one this 
>>> year, and they did it as a benefit to raise money for a friend (the fellow 
>>> in the first six frames of the set).  Most of these were shot with the K-1 
>>> and the FA 80-200/2.8, a few with the 15-30 and the 28-105, and one with my 
>>> bigma.  I think I lost fewer shots to missed focus than with earlier 
>>> bodies, but I'm still not completely happy with the focusing on the K-1.
>>> 
>>> Lighting was with led spots, with a lot of blue in the back.
>>> 
>>> If anyone has hints for how to increase the autofocus hit rate when 
>>> photographing musicians moving around on stage, I'm interested.
>>> On the plus side, the K-1 doesn't seem to obsess on the microphone as badly 
>>> as previous bodies did either.
>>> 
>>> I don't know if I got any knockout photos, but I trimmed down the facebook 
>>> set to 41 competent frames for flickr, I'm pretty happy with the set:
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673913999413
>>> 
>>> For gear heads who want to see the exif data:
>>> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673913999413
>>> 
>>> I haven't yet applied any noise reduction via the slider in lightroom.
>>> 
>>> Comments and such are appreciated as always.
>>> 
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Re: PESO - life sustaining

[Larry Colen]

Bruce Walker wrote:

Thanks very much, Larry.

Intrigued by your DoF comment I pixel-peeped the shot. I estimate that
the plane of focus includes Annie's hair (her bangs over her
forehead), her fingers (handle of the cup), and her right shoulder and
upper arm.  Her knee and that piercing are actually soft. Her
eyelashes are in reasonable focus, but her eyes are closed so that
matters less.

That was a kind of one-off shot as I was mostly shooting to include
environment and I scooted forward on a whim to get that close-framed
shot. I most likely tried to focus on her eyes but focus-recompose may
have thrown that off, or I just blew focus because I just wanted to
capture the moment.


Interesting, I did use the word "seems".  I suspect that the hair at the 
back of her head being quite out of focus, and the other bits of her 
face being harder to see what is in focus just fools my eyes.


It was definitely worth shooting, and looking at.  I think that it is a 
concept that you could revisit to good effect, especially since this one 
was a bit off the cuff.  I think that where this is a good photo, with a 
bit of planning you could get some great photos on the theme of people 
relaxing with a comforting beverage or meal, and if some of them happen 
to be beautiful women, that could have merits as well.



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Re: PESO - 'Standing out in the lake'

[Philip Northeast]

Nice, love the reflections and the contrast

Philip Northeast

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On 14/12/16 11:56 am, Ken Waller wrote:

Taken last fall in Seney National Wildlife Refuge in the Upper Peninsula
of Michigan

K3 and 300mm f4.5 FA

Comments ?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18320529

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Re: PESO - 'Standing out in the lake'

[Jack Davis]

Exceptional lighting, nicely caught.

J


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 13, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> Taken last fall in Seney National Wildlife Refuge in the Upper Peninsula of 
> Michigan
> 
> K3 and 300mm f4.5 FA
> 
> Comments ?
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18320529
> 
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Re: PESO - 'Standing out in the lake'

[Rick Womer]

"Standing Out" is OutStanding.

How did you light it?

Rick

On Dec 13, 2016, at 7:56 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

> Taken last fall in Seney National Wildlife Refuge in the Upper Peninsula of 
> Michigan
> 
> K3 and 300mm f4.5 FA
> 
> Comments ?
> 
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Re: GESO Benefit for Pete

[Larry Colen]

Marco Alpert wrote:

Well. if you hadn’t told us you weren’t happy with the focusing, we wouldn’t 
know it from this set. Nice stuff!


Thanks Marco.  Despite my reputation to the contrary, I actually do know 
how to refrain from showing the crappy photos.


Also thanks to Dan and Malcolm, and everyone else who had a look.

   LRC



- Marco


On Dec 13, 2016, at 12:26 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

Some friends of mine run a weekly blues jam.  Tonight was the last one this 
year, and they did it as a benefit to raise money for a friend (the fellow in 
the first six frames of the set).  Most of these were shot with the K-1 and the 
FA 80-200/2.8, a few with the 15-30 and the 28-105, and one with my bigma.  I 
think I lost fewer shots to missed focus than with earlier bodies, but I'm 
still not completely happy with the focusing on the K-1.

Lighting was with led spots, with a lot of blue in the back.

If anyone has hints for how to increase the autofocus hit rate when 
photographing musicians moving around on stage, I'm interested.
On the plus side, the K-1 doesn't seem to obsess on the microphone as badly as 
previous bodies did either.

I don't know if I got any knockout photos, but I trimmed down the facebook set 
to 41 competent frames for flickr, I'm pretty happy with the set:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673913999413

For gear heads who want to see the exif data:
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673913999413

I haven't yet applied any noise reduction via the slider in lightroom.

Comments and such are appreciated as always.


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Re: PESO - 'Standing out in the lake'

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Oh, that is simply wonderful!

It has a very strong composition, with a lot of textures and, obviously
striking symmetry.

This peaceful scene works as a landscape, an abstract and a nature study
all at once.

Pleasing to the eye, the more I look at it, the more I see to like.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:56 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

> Taken last fall in Seney National Wildlife Refuge in the Upper Peninsula
> of Michigan
>
> K3 and 300mm f4.5 FA
>
> Comments ?
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18320529
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PESO - 'Standing out in the lake'

[Ken Waller]

Taken last fall in Seney National Wildlife Refuge in the Upper Peninsula of 
Michigan


K3 and 300mm f4.5 FA

Comments ?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18320529

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Re: Diesels

[Ken Waller]

The Ford F series has been the best selling nameplate worldwide for 37 
years.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Gonz" 

Subject: Re: Diesels



You just need to trade that Titan for this beast:
http://autoweek.com/article/car-reviews/2017-ford-super-duty-first-drive-king-torque.
Even the gas version is plenty powerful.


On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Bill  
wrote:

On 12/10/2016 10:29 AM, Ken Waller wrote:


Hey Bill - enjoy the ride

I have no hands on diesel experience but I do know that block heaters
are a must for diesels in cold climes like yours, especially if the
vehicle is kept outside,



This is one of the problems. The truck is either being driven, or it's
plugged in. It's still a bear to get running.



You could keep the block heater plugged into a timer if you have a
regular routine of use.

Curious as to what got you interested in a diesel - heavy towing,
mileage etc?



We do a fairly annual vacation to British Columbia, pulling a 6000 lb
trailer. One of the passes we have to go over is a truck killer, 
something

like 30 km of 9º+ grades. The last time I drove it, we were down to about
20km/hr nearing the top, and I was feathering between overheating the 
tranny

and overheating the engine.

This was with a gas Nissan Titan, 5.6L 8 cyl, 307 HP, 385Lb torque. The
diesel is 306 HP, 555 lbs torque.

We can avoid the pass by doing a 5 hour bypass that takes a ferry 
crossing
instead, but it pretty much wastes a day. I can only take two weeks 
vacation

at a time, so losing 2 extra days to travel is a pain.

Other than that, I'm fine with the gas engine, though I do like the 
diesel

power curve.

I just got a call from the dealer, the block heater checks out, but they
can't check the glow plugs until next week when their diesel tech is
working.

thanks

bill






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- Original Message - From: "Bill" 
Subject: OT: Diesels



A couple of months ago I spoiled myself in a major way and bought one
of the new Nissan Titan diesel trucks, equipped with a 5 liter turbo
Cummins engine. This is my first foray into the world of diesel
engines. I expect there are a few people on the list that have more
experience with the things.
My questions all revolve around cold weather starting.
What is considered cold for a Diesel?
Should plugging in the block heater make a difference?
Can glow plugs be flakey?

It's not all that cold here right now. Anything below about -16ºC is
an issue for this truck. This morning was -27ºC, and it took multiple
attempts to get it running. Starting is completely automatic, the only
control the driver has in this regard is a PHD button that initiates
the start cycle. After that, it's up to the truck.
I like the truck, but if I need to go out and start it and warm it up
every 5-6 hours during the cold months, it is not going to be a
pleasant vehicle to own.  They say don't idle it for extended periods
because of the particulate filters, and if it is idled to much, it
goes into perpetual regeneration of the filter, which means it's
dumping raw fuel into the exhaust to burn off the soot. This drops gas
mileage to about 60l/100km. One it is running, it is a joy to drive.

If there are any diesel wonks on the forum, your thoughts would be
appreciated.

thanks

bill







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Re: Diesels

[Paul Stenquist]

Nissan trucks are crap. Don't you read reviews? Brooks has it right.

Paul via phone

> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
>> On 12/13/2016 4:43 PM, Gonz wrote:
>> You just need to trade that Titan for this beast:
>> http://autoweek.com/article/car-reviews/2017-ford-super-duty-first-drive-king-torque.
>> Even the gas version is plenty powerful.
>> 
> 
> The reason I bought a Nissan is because it isn't a Ford (or a DOdGe or a GM)
> 
> But seriously, what I don't like about the F250, and it is the same thing I 
> don't like about the Ram 2500 series and the 2500s from GM (friends don't let 
> friends buy a GM vehicle©) is the 2500 series ride.
> I also don't like GM because they make garbage on wheels.
> The Titan XD still has a fairly soft ride by truck standards.
> Anyway, it goes in on Thursday to have it's stuff checked over.
> 
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Re: Diesels

[Bill]

On 12/13/2016 4:43 PM, Gonz wrote:

You just need to trade that Titan for this beast:
http://autoweek.com/article/car-reviews/2017-ford-super-duty-first-drive-king-torque.
Even the gas version is plenty powerful.



The reason I bought a Nissan is because it isn't a Ford (or a DOdGe or a GM)

But seriously, what I don't like about the F250, and it is the same 
thing I don't like about the Ram 2500 series and the 2500s from GM 
(friends don't let friends buy a GM vehicle©) is the 2500 series ride.

I also don't like GM because they make garbage on wheels.
The Titan XD still has a fairly soft ride by truck standards.
Anyway, it goes in on Thursday to have it's stuff checked over.




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Re: Diesels

[Gonz]

You just need to trade that Titan for this beast:
http://autoweek.com/article/car-reviews/2017-ford-super-duty-first-drive-king-torque.
Even the gas version is plenty powerful.


On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Bill  wrote:
> On 12/10/2016 10:29 AM, Ken Waller wrote:
>>
>> Hey Bill - enjoy the ride
>>
>> I have no hands on diesel experience but I do know that block heaters
>> are a must for diesels in cold climes like yours, especially if the
>> vehicle is kept outside,
>
>
> This is one of the problems. The truck is either being driven, or it's
> plugged in. It's still a bear to get running.
>>
>>
>> You could keep the block heater plugged into a timer if you have a
>> regular routine of use.
>>
>> Curious as to what got you interested in a diesel - heavy towing,
>> mileage etc?
>
>
> We do a fairly annual vacation to British Columbia, pulling a 6000 lb
> trailer. One of the passes we have to go over is a truck killer, something
> like 30 km of 9º+ grades. The last time I drove it, we were down to about
> 20km/hr nearing the top, and I was feathering between overheating the tranny
> and overheating the engine.
>
> This was with a gas Nissan Titan, 5.6L 8 cyl, 307 HP, 385Lb torque. The
> diesel is 306 HP, 555 lbs torque.
>
> We can avoid the pass by doing a 5 hour bypass that takes a ferry crossing
> instead, but it pretty much wastes a day. I can only take two weeks vacation
> at a time, so losing 2 extra days to travel is a pain.
>
> Other than that, I'm fine with the gas engine, though I do like the diesel
> power curve.
>
> I just got a call from the dealer, the block heater checks out, but they
> can't check the glow plugs until next week when their diesel tech is
> working.
>
> thanks
>
> bill
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Bill" 
>> Subject: OT: Diesels
>>
>>
>>> A couple of months ago I spoiled myself in a major way and bought one
>>> of the new Nissan Titan diesel trucks, equipped with a 5 liter turbo
>>> Cummins engine. This is my first foray into the world of diesel
>>> engines. I expect there are a few people on the list that have more
>>> experience with the things.
>>> My questions all revolve around cold weather starting.
>>> What is considered cold for a Diesel?
>>> Should plugging in the block heater make a difference?
>>> Can glow plugs be flakey?
>>>
>>> It's not all that cold here right now. Anything below about -16ºC is
>>> an issue for this truck. This morning was -27ºC, and it took multiple
>>> attempts to get it running. Starting is completely automatic, the only
>>> control the driver has in this regard is a PHD button that initiates
>>> the start cycle. After that, it's up to the truck.
>>> I like the truck, but if I need to go out and start it and warm it up
>>> every 5-6 hours during the cold months, it is not going to be a
>>> pleasant vehicle to own.  They say don't idle it for extended periods
>>> because of the particulate filters, and if it is idled to much, it
>>> goes into perpetual regeneration of the filter, which means it's
>>> dumping raw fuel into the exhaust to burn off the soot. This drops gas
>>> mileage to about 60l/100km. One it is running, it is a joy to drive.
>>>
>>> If there are any diesel wonks on the forum, your thoughts would be
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> bill
>>
>>
>>
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Re: This camera seems DOA

[Paul in MKE]

In the immortal words of Col. Potter..."What a bunch of horse puckey."

-p


On 12/13/2016 11:10 AM, Gonz wrote:

$1200/year?  Why?  People already have phones that do pretty much the
same thing on top of their existing data plan

https://www.cnet.com/news/relonch-bets-youll-pay-99-per-month-for-one-button-photography/




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Re: This camera seems DOA

[Gonz]

Not to mention that the idea is centered mostly around putting your
pics into a social media environment right away.  Phones already allow
you to that.  No one wants to carry a phone AND this device.  I can
see carrying a phone and a DSLR, but not a compact camera that does
virtually the same thing as the phone does.


On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:
> I could see $10 gaining a bit of a following, but $100 a month is just
> sheer lunacy. Let's not forget that this company has yet to deliver an
> actual product despite at least one other failed attempt at
> crowdfunding something.
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Gonz  wrote:
>> $1200/year?  Why?  People already have phones that do pretty much the
>> same thing on top of their existing data plan
>>
>> https://www.cnet.com/news/relonch-bets-youll-pay-99-per-month-for-one-button-photography/
>>
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Re: This camera seems DOA

[Zos Xavius]

I could see $10 gaining a bit of a following, but $100 a month is just
sheer lunacy. Let's not forget that this company has yet to deliver an
actual product despite at least one other failed attempt at
crowdfunding something.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Gonz  wrote:
> $1200/year?  Why?  People already have phones that do pretty much the
> same thing on top of their existing data plan
>
> https://www.cnet.com/news/relonch-bets-youll-pay-99-per-month-for-one-button-photography/
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Re: Almost on topic

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Asahi is a decent beer.

Of course, Asahi is a common brand name used by many unrelated Japanese
companies.  "Asa hi" means "morning sun," which is an alternative for
"rising sun," the symbol of japan.  (The Japanese name for their country,
Nihon or Nippon, means "origin of the sun," a name borrowed from the
Chinese, which view their own country as the Middle Kingdom and Japan as
the land of the origin of the (ie rising" sun.  I believe the largest
Japanese newspaper is still Asahi Shinbun.

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On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 1:32 PM, John  wrote:

> http://www.wsj.com/articles/ab-inbev-to-sell-eastern-europe-
> beer-brands-to-asahi-for-7-8-billion-1481613040
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Re: This camera seems DOA

[John]

It's not quite that dumb an idea. They've just got the decimal in the
wrong place. People would probably buy it at $9.90 or $0.99 per month.

As it is, I expect the "fools" will get to write their investment off as
a tax loss & make out like bandits whether it ever comes to market or not.


On 12/13/2016 1:01 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

The backers are the fools who've already been parted from their money.


On 12/13/2016 12:52 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:

Honestly, I don’t think even many fools would go for this. What a
preposterous thing.

m




On Dec 13, 2016, at 9:27 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:

I wonder who their backers are.  The immortal words of P.T. Barnum,
(thought I doubt he said it first), come to mind.  A fool and his
money are soon parted.


On 12/13/2016 12:10 PM, Gonz wrote:

$1200/year?  Why?  People already have phones that do pretty much the
same thing on top of their existing data plan

https://www.cnet.com/news/relonch-bets-youll-pay-99-per-month-for-one-button-photography/










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Almost on topic

[John]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/ab-inbev-to-sell-eastern-europe-beer-brands-to-asahi-for-7-8-billion-1481613040

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Re: This camera seems DOA

[Gonz]

No truer words have ever been spoken


On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 12:01 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> The backers are the fools who've already been parted from their money.
>
>
>
> On 12/13/2016 12:52 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:
>>
>> Honestly, I don’t think even many fools would go for this. What a
>> preposterous thing.
>>
>> m
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 13, 2016, at 9:27 AM, P. J. Alling 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I wonder who their backers are.  The immortal words of P.T. Barnum,
>>> (thought I doubt he said it first), come to mind.  A fool and his money are
>>> soon parted.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/13/2016 12:10 PM, Gonz wrote:

 $1200/year?  Why?  People already have phones that do pretty much the
 same thing on top of their existing data plan


 https://www.cnet.com/news/relonch-bets-youll-pay-99-per-month-for-one-button-photography/


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Re: This camera seems DOA

[P. J. Alling]

The backers are the fools who've already been parted from their money.


On 12/13/2016 12:52 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:

Honestly, I don’t think even many fools would go for this. What a preposterous 
thing.

m




On Dec 13, 2016, at 9:27 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:

I wonder who their backers are.  The immortal words of P.T. Barnum, (thought I 
doubt he said it first), come to mind.  A fool and his money are soon parted.


On 12/13/2016 12:10 PM, Gonz wrote:

$1200/year?  Why?  People already have phones that do pretty much the
same thing on top of their existing data plan

https://www.cnet.com/news/relonch-bets-youll-pay-99-per-month-for-one-button-photography/







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Re: GESO Benefit for Pete

[Marco Alpert]

Well. if you hadn’t told us you weren’t happy with the focusing, we wouldn’t 
know it from this set. Nice stuff!

- Marco

> On Dec 13, 2016, at 12:26 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> Some friends of mine run a weekly blues jam.  Tonight was the last one this 
> year, and they did it as a benefit to raise money for a friend (the fellow in 
> the first six frames of the set).  Most of these were shot with the K-1 and 
> the FA 80-200/2.8, a few with the 15-30 and the 28-105, and one with my 
> bigma.  I think I lost fewer shots to missed focus than with earlier bodies, 
> but I'm still not completely happy with the focusing on the K-1.
> 
> Lighting was with led spots, with a lot of blue in the back.
> 
> If anyone has hints for how to increase the autofocus hit rate when 
> photographing musicians moving around on stage, I'm interested.
> On the plus side, the K-1 doesn't seem to obsess on the microphone as badly 
> as previous bodies did either.
> 
> I don't know if I got any knockout photos, but I trimmed down the facebook 
> set to 41 competent frames for flickr, I'm pretty happy with the set:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673913999413
> 
> For gear heads who want to see the exif data:
> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673913999413
> 
> I haven't yet applied any noise reduction via the slider in lightroom.
> 
> Comments and such are appreciated as always.
> 
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Re: This camera seems DOA

[Marco Alpert]

Honestly, I don’t think even many fools would go for this. What a preposterous 
thing.

m



> On Dec 13, 2016, at 9:27 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> I wonder who their backers are.  The immortal words of P.T. Barnum, (thought 
> I doubt he said it first), come to mind.  A fool and his money are soon 
> parted.
> 
> 
> On 12/13/2016 12:10 PM, Gonz wrote:
>> $1200/year?  Why?  People already have phones that do pretty much the
>> same thing on top of their existing data plan
>> 
>> https://www.cnet.com/news/relonch-bets-youll-pay-99-per-month-for-one-button-photography/
>> 
>> 


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Re: This camera seems DOA

[P. J. Alling]

I wonder who their backers are.  The immortal words of P.T. Barnum, 
(thought I doubt he said it first), come to mind.  A fool and his money 
are soon parted.



On 12/13/2016 12:10 PM, Gonz wrote:

$1200/year?  Why?  People already have phones that do pretty much the
same thing on top of their existing data plan

https://www.cnet.com/news/relonch-bets-youll-pay-99-per-month-for-one-button-photography/





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This camera seems DOA

[Gonz]

$1200/year?  Why?  People already have phones that do pretty much the
same thing on top of their existing data plan

https://www.cnet.com/news/relonch-bets-youll-pay-99-per-month-for-one-button-photography/


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Re: PESO - life sustaining

[Bruce Walker]

Malcolm, I'm in the middle of my third 30-day Facebook ban in 5
months. It is supposed to end on Christmas day I think.  Facebook's
Merry Christmas to me. :)

It's an occupational hazard shared by everybody shooting nudes. The
model I am shooting today is just now off a Facebook ban, and all the
photographers in the private art nude groups I'm in are banned from
time to time.


On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 4:55 AM, Malcolm Smith  wrote:
> Bruce Walker wrote:
>
> http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/GPswv0g5Z9bQ/IPNL4h00ZZqI
> ++
>
> Quite wonderful.
>
> Tell me Bruce, are you live on Facebook, or have they put you in the naughty 
> corner again?
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Re: PESO - life sustaining

[Bruce Walker]

Thanks very much, Larry.

Intrigued by your DoF comment I pixel-peeped the shot. I estimate that
the plane of focus includes Annie's hair (her bangs over her
forehead), her fingers (handle of the cup), and her right shoulder and
upper arm.  Her knee and that piercing are actually soft. Her
eyelashes are in reasonable focus, but her eyes are closed so that
matters less.

That was a kind of one-off shot as I was mostly shooting to include
environment and I scooted forward on a whim to get that close-framed
shot. I most likely tried to focus on her eyes but focus-recompose may
have thrown that off, or I just blew focus because I just wanted to
capture the moment.

On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>
> Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> It has been an interval since I annoyed you all with a shot. So here's
>> another from my Déshabillé series.
>>
>> About a 2 on the 0-10 scaled NSFW-o-Meter.
>>
>> http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/GPswv0g5Z9bQ/IPNL4h00ZZqI
>
>
> It's a very nice photo, with a very quiet peaceful feel to it.
>
> Interesting,  the right side of the bookshelf gives the photo both a "square
> composition" and a "horizontal composition, and the photo is well composed
> in either case.
>
> The plane of focus seems to be on the handle of the coffee cup and the
> piercing, but not on her eyes, which doesn't make sense, unless you were
> shooting up at her.  I think it might just be the sharp, hard edges make
> those more prominent.  Looking more closely, her knee and shoulder also seem
> to be pretty sharp.  I think it might have been improved a bit if the field
> of focus were further back so that her hair was sharper and her knee was
> less sharp.
>
> Did you, by any chance, get any shots of that pose from about two feet to
> your left of this one?  Or was there too much clutter to the right of the
> bookshelf?
>
>>
>> 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8, f/8, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO; handheld; mix of
>> strobe and ambient.
>>
>
> Very nice, a classic example of the genre.
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Re: GESO Benefit for Pete

[Daniel J. Matyola]

A very fine collection of great "action portraits," Larry.

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On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 3:26 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> Some friends of mine run a weekly blues jam.  Tonight was the last one
> this year, and they did it as a benefit to raise money for a friend (the
> fellow in the first six frames of the set).  Most of these were shot with
> the K-1 and the FA 80-200/2.8, a few with the 15-30 and the 28-105, and one
> with my bigma.  I think I lost fewer shots to missed focus than with
> earlier bodies, but I'm still not completely happy with the focusing on the
> K-1.
>
> Lighting was with led spots, with a lot of blue in the back.
>
> If anyone has hints for how to increase the autofocus hit rate when
> photographing musicians moving around on stage, I'm interested.
> On the plus side, the K-1 doesn't seem to obsess on the microphone as
> badly as previous bodies did either.
>
> I don't know if I got any knockout photos, but I trimmed down the facebook
> set to 41 competent frames for flickr, I'm pretty happy with the set:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673913999413
>
> For gear heads who want to see the exif data:
> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673913999413
>
> I haven't yet applied any noise reduction via the slider in lightroom.
>
> Comments and such are appreciated as always.
>
>
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RE: GESO Benefit for Pete

[Malcolm Smith]

Larry Colen wrote:

For gear heads who want to see the exif data:
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673913999413
+

Another excellent set. I've tried to pick a favourite but this time it's too
difficult. Really enjoyed looking at them.

Malcolm


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GESO Benefit for Pete

[Larry Colen]

Some friends of mine run a weekly blues jam.  Tonight was the last one 
this year, and they did it as a benefit to raise money for a friend (the 
fellow in the first six frames of the set).  Most of these were shot 
with the K-1 and the FA 80-200/2.8, a few with the 15-30 and the 28-105, 
and one with my bigma.  I think I lost fewer shots to missed focus than 
with earlier bodies, but I'm still not completely happy with the 
focusing on the K-1.


Lighting was with led spots, with a lot of blue in the back.

If anyone has hints for how to increase the autofocus hit rate when 
photographing musicians moving around on stage, I'm interested.
On the plus side, the K-1 doesn't seem to obsess on the microphone as 
badly as previous bodies did either.


I don't know if I got any knockout photos, but I trimmed down the 
facebook set to 41 competent frames for flickr, I'm pretty happy with 
the set:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673913999413

For gear heads who want to see the exif data:
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673913999413

I haven't yet applied any noise reduction via the slider in lightroom.

Comments and such are appreciated as always.


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