date:20171019


He lives in England, I think they have to import them at quite a premium.


On 10/19/2017 9:48 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Many thanks to all who responded to me (both on and off the list). You 
suggestions are valuable!


And an extra question for Cotty:
For those 15 years, where have you been getting extra virgins
(to grease the pole)? ;-)


Igor




 Steve Cottrell Thu, 19 Oct 2017 03:44:44 -0700 wrote:

On 18/10/17, Igor PDML-StR, discombobulated, unleashed:


I am considering buying a simple inexpensive one for myself.
I haven't used "rolling" cutters (I believe they are frequently called
trimmers?). I see that they could be a bit more versatile if there are
multiple types of edges (wave, straight, etc.), but then you'd need to
change the "knife head", probably very frequently (?).



I have a Dahle A4 rotary trimmer. It's about 15 years old, never 
changed the blade. Only maintenance is to very occasionally grease the 
pole with a bit of extra virgin olive oil ;-)




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Re: Peso-Crator Lake Winter


The popular choice it seems. Mine also.
Thanks for comments.

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- Original Message -
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Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 8:06:35 PM
Subject: Re: Peso-Crator Lake Winter

What Ann said. Nice shot!

Paul via phonep

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 10:53 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I like the first better too, the one with the sun looks a bit artificial
> ann
> 
>> On 10/19/2017 5:46 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> Thanks much, Paul!
>> J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2017, at 2:16 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Both nice, but prefer the first.  Would make a good holiday card.
>>> 
>>> -p
>>> 
>>> 
 On 10/19/2017 11:00 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
 A few years ago while watching a few snow flakes drift through
 an open Crater Lake Lodge window.
 
 Mamyia6/50mm lens.
 
 C?
 Thanks.
 
 J
 
 https://www.photo.net/photo/18431006
 
 https://www.photo.net/photo/18431007
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Re: Peso-Crator Lake Winter



Thanks, Ann. The first is my choice as well.
Thanks for commenting.

J

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To: "PDML" 
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 7:53:21 PM
Subject: Re: Peso-Crator Lake Winter

I like the first better too, the one with the sun looks a bit artificial
ann

On 10/19/2017 5:46 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
> Thanks much, Paul!
> J
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 19, 2017, at 2:16 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
>>
>> Both nice, but prefer the first.  Would make a good holiday card.
>>
>> -p
>>
>>
>>> On 10/19/2017 11:00 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>>
>>> A few years ago while watching a few snow flakes drift through
>>> an open Crater Lake Lodge window.
>>>
>>> Mamyia6/50mm lens.
>>>
>>> C?
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18431006
>>>
>>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18431007
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Re: Peso-Crator Lake Winter

2017-10-19 Thread Paul Stenquist

What Ann said. Nice shot!

Paul via phonep

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 10:53 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I like the first better too, the one with the sun looks a bit artificial
> ann
> 
>> On 10/19/2017 5:46 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> Thanks much, Paul!
>> J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2017, at 2:16 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Both nice, but prefer the first.  Would make a good holiday card.
>>> 
>>> -p
>>> 
>>> 
 On 10/19/2017 11:00 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
 A few years ago while watching a few snow flakes drift through
 an open Crater Lake Lodge window.
 
 Mamyia6/50mm lens.
 
 C?
 Thanks.
 
 J
 
 https://www.photo.net/photo/18431006
 
 https://www.photo.net/photo/18431007
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Re: Peso-Crator Lake Winter

2017-10-19 Thread ann sanfedele


I like the first better too, the one with the sun looks a bit artificial
ann

On 10/19/2017 5:46 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Thanks much, Paul!
J

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 19, 2017, at 2:16 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:

Both nice, but prefer the first.  Would make a good holiday card.

-p



On 10/19/2017 11:00 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

A few years ago while watching a few snow flakes drift through
an open Crater Lake Lodge window.

Mamyia6/50mm lens.

C?
Thanks.

J

https://www.photo.net/photo/18431006

https://www.photo.net/photo/18431007


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OT - Changes to Flickr’s wall art and photo books

2017-10-19 Thread Igor PDML-StR




For those who are using Flickr, - and just in case their 
notifications are sent directly to the Spam folder...



-- Forwarded message --
Date: 19 Oct 2017 21:14:54 +
From: Flickr Mail 
Subject: Changes to Flickr’s wall art and photo books

Flickr

HI [USERNAME],

We are transitioning our photo book offering to Blurb® and shutting down our
wall art offering.

Beginning October 16, 2017 you will be able to connect your Flickr account to
Blurb’s online photo book-making tool.

If you are a Flickr Pro member, you will get $35 toward your first Blurb
order and $35 toward another order when you renew (with minimum purchase of
$70). Learn more here.

If you have wall art or photo books that you haven’t finished, you will have
45 days to do so.

Please follow these steps:

 1. You have until December 1, 2017 to complete any in-progress wall art or
photo book orders that you have not purchased. After December 1, 2017,
you will not be able to access the Flickr wall art tool or the Flickr
photo book tool and your progress will be lost.
 2. If you want to print your old order history, you will need to go to your
Flickr Wallet before December 1, 2017. After December 1, 2017, we will
remove the wall art and photo book order history. You can manage your new
orders on Blurb’s website.

If you have any questions or concerns about the changes, please visit the
Flickr Help Forum and share your thoughts.

  The Flickr Team


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Re: guillotine or rolling cutter for paper?

2017-10-19 Thread Igor PDML-StR




Many thanks to all who responded to me (both on and off the list). You 
suggestions are valuable!


And an extra question for Cotty:
For those 15 years, where have you been getting extra virgins
(to grease the pole)? ;-)


Igor




 Steve Cottrell Thu, 19 Oct 2017 03:44:44 -0700 wrote:

On 18/10/17, Igor PDML-StR, discombobulated, unleashed:


I am considering buying a simple inexpensive one for myself.
I haven't used "rolling" cutters (I believe they are frequently called
trimmers?). I see that they could be a bit more versatile if there are
multiple types of edges (wave, straight, etc.), but then you'd need to
change the "knife head", probably very frequently (?).



I have a Dahle A4 rotary trimmer. It's about 15 years old, never changed 
the blade. Only maintenance is to very occasionally grease the pole with a 
bit of extra virgin olive oil ;-)


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Re: Milwaukee

2017-10-19 Thread Rick Womer

Mark,

No time in Chicago—just getting to Milwaukee and back via ORD.

If she want to schlep up to MKE on Saturday, that would be fine.

Rick

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Rick Womer wrote:
> 
>> Paul,
>> 
>> Traveling with my wife, who will be at a conference Thursday afternoon and
>> all day Saturday. Friday we plan to be tourists together.
>> 
>> Flying in and out of OHare, and renting a car. Were staying at the
>> downtown Hyatt.
> 
> Rick, Lisa's in Chicago for a conference through Sunday. Drop her a
> line at her Harvard email address if you want to meet up. (I'm stuck
> here in Boston, I'm afraid.)
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Re: Adobe doesn't seem to want my money


On 10/19/2017 15:26, Mark Roberts wrote:

Rick Womer wrote:


Mark, what are you using for sorting and processing your images?

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

They haven't wanted my money for years now. Fuck 'em.


I'm using the years-old versions I last purchased.

Mind you, Affinity Pro is a viable replacement for Photoshop. And
they're said to be working on a Lightroom competitor, too.
  



I'll keep it in mind if I ever get a Mac to replace my current Photoshop 
machine.

How much of a learning curve switching from Photoshop?

Does it support layers & masks & blend modes? What about plugins similar to Nik 
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Re: Milwaukee

2017-10-19 Thread Mark Roberts

Rick Womer wrote:

>Paul,
>
>Traveling with my wife, who will be at a conference Thursday afternoon and
>all day Saturday. Friday we plan to be tourists together.
>
>Flying in and out of OHare, and renting a car. Were staying at the
>downtown Hyatt.

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Re: Peso-Crator Lake Winter

Thanks much, Paul!
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 2:16 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> 
> Both nice, but prefer the first.  Would make a good holiday card.
> 
> -p
> 
> 
>> On 10/19/2017 11:00 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> 
>> A few years ago while watching a few snow flakes drift through
>> an open Crater Lake Lodge window.
>> 
>> Mamyia6/50mm lens.
>> 
>> C?
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18431006
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18431007
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Re: Bong Manayon

2017-10-19 Thread Jostein


He's active on FB.
Seems to be doing quite a lot of camera restoration projects these days. 
He has issued some very beautiful MX'es and KX'es lately.


Jostein

Den 19.10.2017 14:53, skrev Daniel J. Matyola:

Has anyone heard from Bong recently?

I see his images regularly on the PPG, and they are as stunning as ever,
but I don't think he has been here in a while.

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Re: Peso-Crator Lake Winter

2017-10-19 Thread Paul Sorenson


Both nice, but prefer the first.  Would make a good holiday card.

-p


On 10/19/2017 11:00 AM, Jack Davis wrote:


A few years ago while watching a few snow flakes drift through
an open Crater Lake Lodge window.

Mamyia6/50mm lens.

C?
Thanks.

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https://www.photo.net/photo/18431006

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Re: Bong Manayon

2017-10-19 Thread Mark C


He posts on flickr from time to time.

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Has anyone heard from Bong recently?

I see his images regularly on the PPG, and they are as stunning as ever,
but I don't think he has been here in a while.

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Re: Adobe doesn't seem to want my money

2017-10-19 Thread mike wilson

> On 19 October 2017 at 20:27 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:
> 
> 
> There are some very capable RAW processors, other than Lightroom.
> 
> I haven't bought a new Adobe product in quite some time and I feel 
> pretty smug about that, as  Adobe has developed all the highhandedness 
> of MIcrosoft at it's peak and the arrogance of Apple selling iProducts, 
> with features  removed to satisfy their design aesthetic whether you 
> like it or not, so you better like it.
> 
> Smaller vendors sometimes fail to support older products because they 
> simply haven't the resources, but I see little excuse for would be 
> monopolists to abuse their position and simply design systems to milk 
> the consumer, once they think their customers are locked into their system.
> 
> I don't know of anyone who complained of having slightly outdated 
> software if what they had did the job.   They bought the upgrade when 
> they needed it and if they didn't need the upgrade soldered on with what 
> they had.
> 
> I've heard stories of CC upgrades significantly changing controls.  I 
> don't know how true that is but I have had that happen with an upgrade 
> to Windows 7 it changed the shutdown behavior without telling me.   
> Which is a problem, I thought I was shutting the system down, but 
> instead it put the machine into sleep mode.  It's probably not a good 
> idea to pull the power supply, and remove a hard drive at that time, but 
> that's what I almost did.
> 
> It's annoying enough to move between major revs of a software package 
> and find features significantly changed when you expect such changes, 
> DxO optics Pro 9 changed the rendering and export options almost 
> completely from version 8 which took a lot of getting used to.  I can 
> only imagine how wonderful that would be to fire up Lightroom CC and 
> find a similar thing happening after a minor update.
> 

Almost makes you long for chemicals and a darkroom.  Almost.

> 
> 
> On 10/19/2017 2:49 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
> >
> > https://fstoppers.com/apps/adobe-announces-lightroom-classic-cc-lightroom-cc-photoshop-cc-updates-and-more-200026
> > 
> >
> >
> > First, Lightroom 6 will be the final standalone version of Lightroom. 
> > There will be a Lightroom 6.3 update that will provide Nikon D850 
> > support (which is here now for Lightroom Classic CC, Lightroom CC, and 
> > Photoshop CC), but that's all that we can expect. There will be no 
> > further updates after this year to Lightroom 6. While Lightroom 6 will 
> > still be available for an unspecified amount of time, going forward, 
> > there will simply be two new subscription-only desktop versions: 
> > Lightroom Classic CC and Lightroom CC.

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Re: Samyang 14/2.8 on K-1, good?


Which I guess means that Dali is pretty close.


On 10/18/2017 9:57 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

Handlebar think Snidely Whiplash...


On 10/15/2017 10:53 AM, Jostein wrote:



Den 10.10.2017 22:17, skrev P. J. Alling:


On an APS-C sensor it's moderate but correctable barrel distortion, 
but on FF it's mustache distortion.


Interesting expression. Would that be akin to Hitler's, Stalin's or 
Dali's moustache?


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Re: UPS Stupidy

I think they delivere it if, they have a truck going close to the 
location so that it could work that delivery into their route. They do 
whatever will cost less, and they have completely computerized their 
delivery routes to maximize efficiency.  I think the USPS charges other 
package delivery services 58¢ for last mile delivery so if they can work 
that delivery into an existing delivery route, they save a bit more than 
half a dollar.



On 10/18/2017 11:57 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Actually, that's not quite correct.
Both UPS and FedEx have introduced the lower-cost option when the 
"last-mile" delivery (more exactly, within your city/region) is done 
by the USPS. It is called "UPS Mail Innovations" and "FedEx 
SmartPost", respectively.

http://www.upsmailinnovations.com/
http://www.fedex.com/us/smart-post/outbound.html

But it is the vendor's choice if this option is used or not. It is not 
decided by UPS/FedEx on themselves.


HTH,

Igor

PS. I might be wrong, but it seems to me that once, UPS (or FedEx) 
delivered such a package themselves, despite the lower-cost option 
used by the vendor.



 P. J. Alling Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:44:41 -0700 wrote:

Actually UPS uses the USPS for final delivery for small items so even 
if UPS is your carrier, you don't know who's ultimately responsible 
for final delivery...



This is especially problematic if you expect UPS since if you have a 
P. O. Box and no mail receptacle at your physical address USPS rules 
won't allow delivery.


On Wed, 18 Oct 2017, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Amazon uses only UPS and USPS, and it seems unpredictable which one 
they'd use in each case.

So, you don't order from Amazon?

Igor


Mark Roberts Wed, 18 Oct 2017 05:50:46 -0700 wrote:

I'll always pay a little extra to get my stuff delivered by any
service other than UPS. They're the worst of a bad lot.

Here's another thing that pisses me off: Places that offer only a
choice between "standard", "two-day" and "overnight" shipping, without
specifying what carrier is being used for any of them.






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Re: Adobe doesn't seem to want my money

There are some very capable RAW processors, other than Lightroom.

I haven't bought a new Adobe product in quite some time and I feel
pretty smug about that, as Adobe has developed all the highhandedness
of MIcrosoft at it's peak and the arrogance of Apple selling iProducts,
with features removed to satisfy their design aesthetic whether you
like it or not, so you better like it.

Smaller vendors sometimes fail to support older products because they
simply haven't the resources, but I see little excuse for would be
monopolists to abuse their position and simply design systems to milk
the consumer, once they think their customers are locked into their system.

I don't know of anyone who complained of having slightly outdated
software if what they had did the job. They bought the upgrade when
they needed it and if they didn't need the upgrade soldered on with what
they had.

I've heard stories of CC upgrades significantly changing controls. I
don't know how true that is but I have had that happen with an upgrade
to Windows 7 it changed the shutdown behavior without telling me.
Which is a problem, I thought I was shutting the system down, but
instead it put the machine into sleep mode. It's probably not a good
idea to pull the power supply, and remove a hard drive at that time, but
that's what I almost did.

It's annoying enough to move between major revs of a software package
and find features significantly changed when you expect such changes,
DxO optics Pro 9 changed the rendering and export options almost
completely from version 8 which took a lot of getting used to. I can
only imagine how wonderful that would be to fire up Lightroom CC and
find a similar thing happening after a minor update.

On 10/19/2017 2:49 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

https://fstoppers.com/apps/adobe-announces-lightroom-classic-cc-lightroom-cc-photoshop-cc-updates-and-more-200026

First, Lightroom 6 will be the final standalone version of Lightroom.
There will be a Lightroom 6.3 update that will provide Nikon D850
support (which is here now for Lightroom Classic CC, Lightroom CC, and
Photoshop CC), but that's all that we can expect. There will be no
further updates after this year to Lightroom 6. While Lightroom 6 will
still be available for an unspecified amount of time, going forward,
there will simply be two new subscription-only desktop versions:
Lightroom Classic CC and Lightroom CC.

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Re: Adobe doesn't seem to want my money

2017-10-19 Thread Mark Roberts

Rick Womer wrote:

>Mark, what are you using for sorting and processing your images?
>
>On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Mark Roberts
> wrote:
>> They haven't wanted my money for years now. Fuck 'em.

I'm using the years-old versions I last purchased.

Mind you, Affinity Pro is a viable replacement for Photoshop. And
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Re: UPS Stupidy - USPS just as Bad

2017-10-19 Thread J.C. O'Connell

Last week I sent an insured priorty mail parcel from ft. lauderdale to  
miami, FL.
This was on a friday with expected delivery date of saturday. As of today,  
six
days later, its still not delivered, and expected delivery date is  
"delayed"?
ive never had such bad service from USPS before and their call in help  
line is not working

properly so I cant reach a live agent for help. jco




On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 12:04:08 -0400, John  wrote:

Well, FWIW, my experience is USPS is they still do allow their carriers  
the leeway to use some common sense ... at least here in Raleigh.


And I've noticed lately that for some smaller packages (books, T-shirts  
& small repair parts) UPS & FedEx are both handing off to USPS for the  
last mile; the benefit being if the package won't fit in my regular  
mailbox, the carrier *does* leave a form so I can pick it up at the post  
office.


On 10/18/2017 09:38, P. J. Alling wrote:

The USPS used to allow, informally, a lot of leeway to their
employees, at least in smaller towns.  Now all rules must be followed
good bad or indifferent.  This leads to scenarios where the locals
who know their customers have to do things that are antithetical to
good customer relations, and those higher in the organization wonder
why no one wants to use the US mail.
 I cannot fathom why UPS, FedEx and other delivery businesses would
want to emulate the latest stupidities that strictly enforcing USPS
rules have created.
 On the other hand it is disturbing that a signature required tracked
package could be left on one's doorstep, as FedEx did, and be
considered properly delivered, as happened when I ordered my K20D
from B photo several years ago.
 I guess there's no middle ground, either they follow the rules
exactly or ignore them entirely.
  On 10/18/2017 8:35 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:

 UPS, FedEx, USPS, and I assume, Canada Post, - all they are large
machines that are designed to work well on average for the planned
scenarios. And humans (employees) are not given much freedom to
think and make decisions. Any disturbances that break those
scenarios can lead to unpredictable results. (Although in this
case, I believe, the end result is "as doctor prescribed": the
package was delivered to their outlet, as you requested. So, from
the UPS point of view, - they complied with your request. :-P )
 I would argue that it is a feature of any large service system: it
works acceptably well until it breaks; but when it breaks, all hell
breaks loose, and nobody knows what to do.
  Speaking of large service "machines": I was greatly impressed with
the design and setup of another large machine: Disneyland. They
have a very complex traffic control/switching, and it is designed
extremely well. But with all of that, the staff is trained well and
they are given enough freedom to think and make decisions on the
spot if needed.
 Igor
  William Robb Tue, 17 Oct 2017 22:42:45 -0700 wrote:
 I ordered some stuff from Lee Valley Tools to support my other
hobby. Working on the theory that I am never home when UPS wants to
deliver, and I don’t really want a bunch of expensive tools sitting
in a box on my back landing, I changed the delivery to pick up at
one of their outlets that is close to where I work. I was home for
supper, and the UPS driver came to my back door and knocked. As I
was opening the door, he scanned the parcel, and told me that it
had been redirected to the depot and I would be able to pick it up
tomorrow. And with that, he took my parcel back to his van and
drove away.
  And people wonder why I despise UPS.
 Have fun
 Bill









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Re: guillotine or rolling cutter for paper?

2017-10-19 Thread mike wilson

> On 18 October 2017 at 18:14 Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I don't do much paper cutting, and when I do, I use either a good knife or
> a generic guillotine-type paper cutter available in the departmental 
> office or elsewhere.
> I am considering buying a simple inexpensive one for myself.
> I haven't used "rolling" cutters (I believe they are frequently called 
> trimmers?). I see that they could be a bit more versatile if there are 
> multiple types of edges (wave, straight, etc.), but then you'd need to 
> change the "knife head", probably very frequently (?).
> 
> So, my question is:
> What are the pro's and con's of both types of cutters, especially in 
> application to the photo paper?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Igor

After nearly forty years of buying the damned things, I would say there is very
little difference between types.  It depends on what you fancy.  What does make
a difference is quality.  Buy the very best one you can afford.  Then, according
again to my experience, you need to bolt it to something exceedingly large and
heavy.  Then bolt that to the floor.

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Re: Pesos-Cratr Lake Winter


Thanks for asking, John. Yes, we're
fine and no flames within a number
of miles, thankfully!
Sorry I messed up the photo IRL and
corrected it on a following post.
J
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 9:38 AM, John  wrote:
> 
> You doing OK out there? I saw something on the news last weekend about one of 
> the fires being near Yuba City & IIRC, that's near you. It was on Headline 
> News, and I didn't catch a repeat of the story later.
> 
> OH, and there don't seem to be any links to your photos.
> 
>> On 10/19/2017 11:46, Jack Davis wrote:
>> A couple shots taken a few winters back.
>> Both with Mamiya6 as a few snow flakes were drifting in through an open 
>> window
>> of the, just re-opened for the season, Crater Lake Lodge.
>> C?
>> Thanks!
>> J
>> 18431006
>> 18431007
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Re: SIGMA 70-200mm f/2.8 EX APO - thoughts?

2017-10-19 Thread Steve Sharpe


At 12:34 PM -0400 10/19/17, John wrote:
I have a SIGMA 24-70mm f/2.8 EX APO. If the build quality on the 
70-200mm is as good, you'll get your money's worth out of it, and 
maybe a little more.


I know. The seller also had one of those in Nikon mount which I 
bought for my old D2Xs. It is built like a tank but seems to flare 
badly when pointed in the general direction of the sun. (it did not 
come with a lens hood)


Paul, thanks for the advice. I will definitely test it before I decide.

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Re: Pesos-Cratr Lake Winter


You doing OK out there? I saw something on the news last weekend about one of the 
fires being near Yuba City & IIRC, that's near you. It was on Headline News, 
and I didn't catch a repeat of the story later.

OH, and there don't seem to be any links to your photos.

On 10/19/2017 11:46, Jack Davis wrote:



A couple shots taken a few winters back.
Both with Mamiya6 as a few snow flakes were drifting in through an open window
of the, just re-opened for the season, Crater Lake Lodge.

C?

Thanks!

J

18431006

18431007





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Re: Adobe doesn't seem to want my money


On 10/19/2017 08:35, Mark Roberts wrote:

They haven't wanted my money for years now. Fuck 'em.
  



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Re: SIGMA 70-200mm f/2.8 EX APO - thoughts?


I have a SIGMA 24-70mm f/2.8 EX APO. If the build quality on the 70-200mm is as 
good, you'll get your money's worth out of it, and maybe a little more.

On 10/19/2017 06:35, Steve Sharpe wrote:

What do people think of this lens? It looks like I have the opportunity
to buy one of these (used) for C$225. It is not the current model. I
think it's a few generations old and I do not think it has the "DG"
(digital grade) coatings. I cannot seem to find a review online for
this model. I have handled the lens though I have not tried it on a
body, and it appears to be in very good condition.

I already have three telezooms in this range, so I do not absolutely
*need* this lens. However, my current telezooms all have issues of one
sort or another, which the Sigma might solve. To start I would use it
on my K-3, but I am really looking to have a quality full frame
telezoom for when I upgrade to a K-1 (or whatever full frame DSLR
Pentax/Ricoh will be offering) in a year or two.

Thanks in advance for all your words of wisdom...or otherwise!

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Re: guillotine or rolling cutter for paper?


On 10/18/2017 13:14, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Hi All,

I don't do much paper cutting, and when I do, I use either a good knife or
a generic guillotine-type paper cutter available in the departmental office or 
elsewhere.
I am considering buying a simple inexpensive one for myself.
I haven't used "rolling" cutters (I believe they are frequently called trimmers?). I see 
that they could be a bit more versatile if there are multiple types of edges (wave, straight, 
etc.), but then you'd need to change the "knife head", probably very frequently (?).

So, my question is:
What are the pro's and con's of both types of cutters, especially in 
application to the photo paper?

Thank you,

Igor



My experience is that the rolling style cutters give a more precise cut, less 
slippage and fewer ragged edges. It's a lot easier to use when you misjudge the 
cut and have to cut it again to take a tiny sliver off.

I only have a straight cutter & have never had to change the wheel. I probably 
could if I was doing industrial quantities.



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Re: UPS Stupidy

2017-10-19 Thread Bob W-PDML

I've been enjoying the full customer failed-delivery journey experience with a 
couple of carriers over the last two weeks. 

With one of them today I logged a query on their system. In response I received 
three emails over the space of an hour to tell me they'd logged my case. Each 
of the emails gave a different case number. Just now, several hours later and 
with no intervening communication at all, I have received two further emails 
congratulating me because my case has been closed. Neither of the case numbers 
in these emails matched any of the earlier ones.

I'm wondering if I should raise a new case for each of the 4 emails after the 
first one...

B

> On 19 Oct 2017, at 17:05, John  wrote:
> 
> Well, FWIW, my experience is USPS is they still do allow their carriers the 
> leeway to use some common sense ... at least here in Raleigh.
> 
> And I've noticed lately that for some smaller packages (books, T-shirts & 
> small repair parts) UPS & FedEx are both handing off to USPS for the last 
> mile; the benefit being if the package won't fit in my regular mailbox, the 
> carrier *does* leave a form so I can pick it up at the post office.
> 
>> On 10/18/2017 09:38, P. J. Alling wrote:
>> The USPS used to allow, informally, a lot of leeway to their
>> employees, at least in smaller towns.  Now all rules must be followed
>> good bad or indifferent.  This leads to scenarios where the locals
>> who know their customers have to do things that are antithetical to
>> good customer relations, and those higher in the organization wonder
>> why no one wants to use the US mail.
>> I cannot fathom why UPS, FedEx and other delivery businesses would
>> want to emulate the latest stupidities that strictly enforcing USPS
>> rules have created.
>> On the other hand it is disturbing that a signature required tracked
>> package could be left on one's doorstep, as FedEx did, and be
>> considered properly delivered, as happened when I ordered my K20D
>> from B photo several years ago.
>> I guess there's no middle ground, either they follow the rules
>> exactly or ignore them entirely.
>>> On 10/18/2017 8:35 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>>> UPS, FedEx, USPS, and I assume, Canada Post, - all they are large
>>> machines that are designed to work well on average for the planned
>>> scenarios. And humans (employees) are not given much freedom to
>>> think and make decisions. Any disturbances that break those
>>> scenarios can lead to unpredictable results. (Although in this
>>> case, I believe, the end result is "as doctor prescribed": the
>>> package was delivered to their outlet, as you requested. So, from
>>> the UPS point of view, - they complied with your request. :-P )
>>> I would argue that it is a feature of any large service system: it
>>> works acceptably well until it breaks; but when it breaks, all hell
>>> breaks loose, and nobody knows what to do.
>>> Speaking of large service "machines": I was greatly impressed with
>>> the design and setup of another large machine: Disneyland. They
>>> have a very complex traffic control/switching, and it is designed
>>> extremely well. But with all of that, the staff is trained well and
>>> they are given enough freedom to think and make decisions on the
>>> spot if needed.
>>> Igor
>>> William Robb Tue, 17 Oct 2017 22:42:45 -0700 wrote:
>>> I ordered some stuff from Lee Valley Tools to support my other
>>> hobby. Working on the theory that I am never home when UPS wants to
>>> deliver, and I don’t really want a bunch of expensive tools sitting
>>> in a box on my back landing, I changed the delivery to pick up at
>>> one of their outlets that is close to where I work. I was home for
>>> supper, and the UPS driver came to my back door and knocked. As I
>>> was opening the door, he scanned the parcel, and told me that it
>>> had been redirected to the depot and I would be able to pick it up
>>> tomorrow. And with that, he took my parcel back to his van and
>>> drove away.
>>> And people wonder why I despise UPS.
>>> Have fun
>>> Bill
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Re: An new variation on the "silicon film" idea


On 10/17/2017 17:59, Mark Roberts wrote:

Larry Colen wrote:


Mark Roberts wrote:

This device replaces the back of your old film camera and lets you
take 16-megapixel photos.
https://petapixel.com/2017/10/17/im-back-new-digital-back-old-35mm-cameras/

It's currently on Kickstarter so there's no telling if it ever makes
it to market.


That's a clever idea, but there are two problems, first it's not very
clever, and second, as I often either point out or demonstrate, there
can be a huge disparity between clever ideas and good ideas.


I think it's neither "clever" nor "good". No, the word to describe
this is "hipster". It's basically high-tech lomography. Lo-fi
photography that lets you be seen using a "vintage" film camera. (And
make no mistake, being seen taking photos this way is at least as
important as the photos you get. Probably more.

That said, if it inspires people to try something new then I say they
should go for it. Whatever the pros and cons of the thing I wouldn't
be surprised if some people make some good art with it and have fun to
boot.
  



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Re: Way to go Paul !

Absolutely what Ann said, Paul!
Well composed prose, evident even after fumbled editing.

J

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To: "PDML" 
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 7:04:57 AM
Subject: Re: Way to go Paul !

So happy for you... particularly like one of the photos of the interior 
from an aesthetic point of view.  I know you know I won't be reading the 
text ;-)  so won't see the evidence of poor editing.

Looking forward to seeing the 1935 car..

ann






On 10/19/2017 8:39 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Thanks Dan. Shooting a 1935 Packard today. Should be fun.
>
> Paul
>> On Oct 19, 2017, at 8:31 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>>
>> Nice article, and fine images.
>>
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 11:38 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/ya8o9gby
>>>
>>> Kenneth Waller
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
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Re: UPS Stupidy


Well, FWIW, my experience is USPS is they still do allow their carriers the 
leeway to use some common sense ... at least here in Raleigh.

And I've noticed lately that for some smaller packages (books, T-shirts & small 
repair parts) UPS & FedEx are both handing off to USPS for the last mile; the 
benefit being if the package won't fit in my regular mailbox, the carrier *does* leave 
a form so I can pick it up at the post office.

On 10/18/2017 09:38, P. J. Alling wrote:

The USPS used to allow, informally, a lot of leeway to their
employees, at least in smaller towns.  Now all rules must be followed
good bad or indifferent.  This leads to scenarios where the locals
who know their customers have to do things that are antithetical to
good customer relations, and those higher in the organization wonder
why no one wants to use the US mail.

I cannot fathom why UPS, FedEx and other delivery businesses would
want to emulate the latest stupidities that strictly enforcing USPS
rules have created.

On the other hand it is disturbing that a signature required tracked
package could be left on one's doorstep, as FedEx did, and be
considered properly delivered, as happened when I ordered my K20D
from B photo several years ago.

I guess there's no middle ground, either they follow the rules
exactly or ignore them entirely.


On 10/18/2017 8:35 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


UPS, FedEx, USPS, and I assume, Canada Post, - all they are large
machines that are designed to work well on average for the planned
scenarios. And humans (employees) are not given much freedom to
think and make decisions. Any disturbances that break those
scenarios can lead to unpredictable results. (Although in this
case, I believe, the end result is "as doctor prescribed": the
package was delivered to their outlet, as you requested. So, from
the UPS point of view, - they complied with your request. :-P )

I would argue that it is a feature of any large service system: it
works acceptably well until it breaks; but when it breaks, all hell
breaks loose, and nobody knows what to do.


Speaking of large service "machines": I was greatly impressed with
the design and setup of another large machine: Disneyland. They
have a very complex traffic control/switching, and it is designed
extremely well. But with all of that, the staff is trained well and
they are given enough freedom to think and make decisions on the
spot if needed.

Igor


William Robb Tue, 17 Oct 2017 22:42:45 -0700 wrote:

I ordered some stuff from Lee Valley Tools to support my other
hobby. Working on the theory that I am never home when UPS wants to
deliver, and I don’t really want a bunch of expensive tools sitting
in a box on my back landing, I changed the delivery to pick up at
one of their outlets that is close to where I work. I was home for
supper, and the UPS driver came to my back door and knocked. As I
was opening the door, he scanned the parcel, and told me that it
had been redirected to the depot and I would be able to pick it up
tomorrow. And with that, he took my parcel back to his van and
drove away.


And people wonder why I despise UPS.

Have fun

Bill






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Peso-Crator Lake Winter



A few years ago while watching a few snow flakes drift through
an open Crater Lake Lodge window.

Mamyia6/50mm lens.

C?
Thanks.

J

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https://www.photo.net/photo/18431007


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