Fw: :Re: Test: (for Brian)

[Alan C]

My ISP said they did a "refresh" & everything is now back to normal but they 
won't (or can't?) say what the problem was.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Walters

Sent: 21 May, 2018 10:47 PM
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Subject: Re: :Re: Test:


On 22 May 2018 at 03:49 Alan C  wrote:


Brian

I discovered the most amazing thing. If I put a colon (:) at the beginning 
&

end of the subject line, it sends just fine.



Very strange indeed.  I have to ask - what made you decide to try that?  By
design or by accident?

Cheers
Brian

++
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Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/


-Original Message- 
From: Brian Walters

Sent: 21 May, 2018 1:35 PM
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Subject: Re: Fw: Test

Hmmm - don't think I can help.  I don't use Windows Live Mail.  For normal
email
I use Thunderbird but for the PDML I use my lyons-ryan domain's web mail 
so

that
list messages don't get mixed up with other mail.

Perhaps there are others who might have a better insight into the issue.

Cheers
Brian



> On 21 May 2018 at 17:19 Alan C  wrote:
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>
>
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Alan C

> Sent: 20 May, 2018 11:57 AM
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Test
>
> Brian
>
> I'm having e-mail problems.
>
> I can send using Windows Live Mail which I've always used but the 
> e-mails

> just vanish.
>
> The one you replied to was send directly from Vox Telecoms Webmail, not
> from
> the normal user's @lantic.
>
> I did mostly receive the other PDML posts OK but none from Jack Davis or
> Ann
> Sanfedele (I have to access those from the Archives). I have missed a
> couple
> of Bank e-mails too.
>
> At one stage I found I could send OK if I removed or simplified the
> Subject
> line but now that does,'t work any more. I can't even send to myself.
>
> I have now set the Vox Webmail to not delete after sending or receiving
> via
> Live Mail which may throw some light on the problem.
>
> Perhaps you have some suggestions?
>
>
>
> Alan
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Re: :Re: PESO Silver-studded blue:

[mike wilson]

All our greengocers must have Boer ancestry.

> On 23 May 2018 at 05:17 Alan C  wrote:
> 
> 
> In Afrikaans they do that too & it has "infected" may English speakers.
> 
> Alan C
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Toine
> Sent: 22 May, 2018 9:52 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: PESO Silver-studded blue
> 
> Ah yes. Never noticed this one. Panorama's is the correct spelling in
> Dutch.
> 
> On 22 May 2018 at 21:40, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> > P.s. That's a beautiful photo.
> >
> > Pps. There shouldn't be an apostrophe in "Panorama's" - you'll upset
> > Chris. The apostrophe indicates a possessive or a contraction, not a 
> > plural.
> >
> > > On 22 May 2018, at 20:34, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 22 May 2018, at 20:05, Toine  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I like that idea of living in the UK, if it isn't a job as a window
> > >> cleaner. In germany insects also dropped. Really no problems in the UK?
> > >
> > > This is where all the shit is these days.
> > >
> > >>
> > >>> On 22 May 2018 at 20:48, mike wilson  wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >  On 22 May 2018 at 17:08 Toine  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >  This one is almost gone, like all insects. Apparently all insects
> > show a
> >  70-80% decline in the last years. Can't remember the last time I had
> > to
> >  clean my windshield from splashed insects.
> > 
> >  https://www.repiuk.nl/content/heideblauwtje/
> > >>>
> > >>> Come and live in the UK.  You can have a full time job between now and
> > >>> September.

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Re: The Dog & Pony Show

[Gonz]

That is A LOT of money.  It can only be good for the industry, the
resulting tech war should bring some interesting new products.


On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 10:28 PM, Bill  wrote:
> On 5/22/2018 9:17 PM, Gonz wrote:
>>
>> Wow, this is crazy... Sounds more than just throwing to see what
>> sticks...  I guess time will tell.
>>
>>
>> https://petapixel.com/2018/05/22/sony-investing-9b-in-image-sensors-aims-to-be-top-camera-brand-by-2021/
>>
>
> They have a lot of money. It will be interesting to see if they can make it
> stick to something.
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:Re: PESO Silver-studded blue:

[Alan C]

In Afrikaans they do that too & it has "infected" may English speakers.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Toine

Sent: 22 May, 2018 9:52 PM
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Ah yes. Never noticed this one. Panorama's is the correct spelling in
Dutch.

On 22 May 2018 at 21:40, Bob W-PDML  wrote:


P.s. That's a beautiful photo.

Pps. There shouldn't be an apostrophe in "Panorama's" - you'll upset
Chris. The apostrophe indicates a possessive or a contraction, not a 
plural.


> On 22 May 2018, at 20:34, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>
>> On 22 May 2018, at 20:05, Toine  wrote:
>>
>> I like that idea of living in the UK, if it isn't a job as a window
>> cleaner. In germany insects also dropped. Really no problems in the UK?
>
> This is where all the shit is these days.
>
>>
>>> On 22 May 2018 at 20:48, mike wilson  wrote:
>>>
>>>
 On 22 May 2018 at 17:08 Toine  wrote:


 This one is almost gone, like all insects. Apparently all insects
show a
 70-80% decline in the last years. Can't remember the last time I had
to
 clean my windshield from splashed insects.

 https://www.repiuk.nl/content/heideblauwtje/
>>>
>>> Come and live in the UK.  You can have a full time job between now and
>>> September.
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Re: PESO Silver-studded blue

[Alan C]

In Afrikaans they do that too & it has "infected" may English speakers.

Alan C

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Sent: 22 May, 2018 9:52 PM
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Ah yes. Never noticed this one. Panorama's is the correct spelling in
Dutch.

On 22 May 2018 at 21:40, Bob W-PDML  wrote:


P.s. That's a beautiful photo.

Pps. There shouldn't be an apostrophe in "Panorama's" - you'll upset
Chris. The apostrophe indicates a possessive or a contraction, not a 
plural.


> On 22 May 2018, at 20:34, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>
>> On 22 May 2018, at 20:05, Toine  wrote:
>>
>> I like that idea of living in the UK, if it isn't a job as a window
>> cleaner. In germany insects also dropped. Really no problems in the UK?
>
> This is where all the shit is these days.
>
>>
>>> On 22 May 2018 at 20:48, mike wilson  wrote:
>>>
>>>
 On 22 May 2018 at 17:08 Toine  wrote:


 This one is almost gone, like all insects. Apparently all insects
show a
 70-80% decline in the last years. Can't remember the last time I had
to
 clean my windshield from splashed insects.

 https://www.repiuk.nl/content/heideblauwtje/
>>>
>>> Come and live in the UK.  You can have a full time job between now and
>>> September.
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Re: The Dog & Pony Show

[Bill]

On 5/22/2018 9:17 PM, Gonz wrote:

Wow, this is crazy... Sounds more than just throwing to see what
sticks...  I guess time will tell.

https://petapixel.com/2018/05/22/sony-investing-9b-in-image-sensors-aims-to-be-top-camera-brand-by-2021/



They have a lot of money. It will be interesting to see if they can make 
it stick to something.


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Re: The Dog & Pony Show

[Gonz]

Wow, this is crazy... Sounds more than just throwing to see what
sticks...  I guess time will tell.

https://petapixel.com/2018/05/22/sony-investing-9b-in-image-sensors-aims-to-be-top-camera-brand-by-2021/


On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 2:50 PM, Bill  wrote:
> On 5/17/2018 12:26 PM, Gonz wrote:
>>
>> I see your point Bill, and you arguments make a certain amount of
>> sense as far as Ricoh's direction.  But where I diverge in my opinion
>> is the survival part.  Granted there will always be that cadre of
>> Pentax die hards, but as you can see from the average age of pdml
>> posters, its only going up, not down.
>
>
> The PDML is one of the best kept secrets on the internet. I hardly think we
> can use this mailing list as an example.
> I just entered "Pentax camera forums" into Google and what came back was
> forums neurotica, pentaxuser.com and DPReview.
> We aren't exactly on anyone's radar here.
> Spend some time on the neurotic forum and you will find plenty of thin
> skinned millennials just looking to take offense at even the smallest
> slight.
>
>
>  I.e. there is very little new
>>
>> Pentax "blood" coming in.  So someone who is just coming into the high
>> end/pro side of photography will in all likelihood migrate to one of
>> the big three i.e. Canon, Nikon, Sony.  Well at least as 35mm is
>> concerned.  I think medium format is a completely different beast and
>> I wont even venture an opinion on that.  Then there is Leica, but they
>> are also on a different league altogether when it comes to high end.
>> So where does that leave Pentax?
>
>
> It leaves them with somewhat of an uphill battle to be sure, but I do think
> that if Ricoh was planning on shuttering the brand any time soon we wouldn't
> be seeing long term plans and short term new products coming out of their
> factories.
>
>  With a reputation of a lower
>>
>> cost/amateur manufacturer, they will have a real hard time competing
>> in the space with those big boys and all their resources.  The market
>> is definitely shrinking, and it makes perfect sense to go after the
>> only remaining market not eviscerated by phone cameras (though I've
>> seen pros starting to move there too and even making full movies with
>> them), but whether they will survive or not is a crap shoot.
>
>
> Whether anyone survives is a crap shoot. Nikon is, from what I've read,
> somewhat on the ropes, Canon is taking hits all over the place because of
> very outdated sensor technology (the peril of making your own and then not
> throwing R dollars at the division that invents them), Sony makes no bones
> about throwing money at the wall and seeing what sticks. As soon as cameras
> stop sticking, they are out of the game, the same way they got out of
> consumer video recorders with Beta and became just another also ran VHS
> maker.
> I was, as it happens, one of the consumers they left high and dry with a
> cabinet full of tapes and no machine available to play them on.
>
> Friends don't let friends buy Sony.
>
> Canon is something of a crap shoot. As the market shrinks, they will look
> more and more at mirrorless, and I wouldn't be surprised if they jump in
> with both feet and change their mount (again). If they do that, expect the
> EF mount to go the way of the FD mount, with the same lame excuse given for
> killing it.
>
> They got away with it once, they might well try to get away with it again.
>
> At least Ricoh bought the Pentax brand because they wanted it and thought
> they could build something with it. Canon and Nikon are just doing what they
> have always done, and really, so is Sony (toying with a market until it
> dries up and then walking away).
>
> Fuji really is, to my mind, the safe bet regarding the camera industry, but
> let's not pretend that they can't fail either.
>
>
> bill
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Re: Amazon did it again!

[Igor PDML-StR]

I forgot to add the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O84p6amPY_Q

;-)

Igor


On Tue, 22 May 2018, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Paul:

Sorry to hear about your troubles, and sorry for being correct on my 
prediction that they were very likely to ship it packaged the same way.

It's a "collateral damage" of the "economy of scale".

Igor


   On 2018-05-21 14:14, Paul Stenquist wrote:

   I was shocked to see that once again, the lens was not boxed! I 
refused delivery. Called Amazon and told them to see if they could figure out 
how to put lens number three in a box. They will deliver another one 
tomorrow. We will see.




John,

Walmart.com is trying to compete with Amazon, but they are nowhere close.
Amazon mostly works. Walmart.com mostly fails.




John Tue, 22 May 2018 09:10:13 -0700 wrote:

So, I'm not totally down on Amazon; I'm just not totally down WITH them ...
IYKWIM.



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Re: Amazon did it again!

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Igor,
Lens number three arrives tomorrow. UPS shows it slightly heavier, so I’m 
mildly optimistic. If it’s in the Pentax box it won’t get in the door. 

Paul

> On May 22, 2018, at 10:05 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> 
> Paul:
> 
> Sorry to hear about your troubles, and sorry for being correct on my 
> prediction that they were very likely to ship it packaged the same way.
> It's a "collateral damage" of the "economy of scale".
> 
> Igor
> 
> 
>On 2018-05-21 14:14, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
>I was shocked to see that once again, the lens was not boxed! I 
> refused delivery. Called Amazon and told them to see if they could figure out 
> how to put lens number three in a box. They will deliver another one 
> tomorrow. We will see.
> 
> 
> 
> John,
> 
> Walmart.com is trying to compete with Amazon, but they are nowhere close.
> Amazon mostly works. Walmart.com mostly fails.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> John Tue, 22 May 2018 09:10:13 -0700 wrote:
> 
> So, I'm not totally down on Amazon; I'm just not totally down WITH them ...
> IYKWIM.
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Re: Amazon did it again!

[Igor PDML-StR]

Paul:

Sorry to hear about your troubles, and sorry for being correct on my 
prediction that they were very likely to ship it packaged the same way.

It's a "collateral damage" of the "economy of scale".

Igor


On 2018-05-21 14:14, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I was shocked to see that once again, the lens was not boxed! I 
refused delivery. Called Amazon and told them to see if they could figure 
out how to put lens number three in a box. They will deliver another one 
tomorrow. We will see.




John,

Walmart.com is trying to compete with Amazon, but they are nowhere close.
Amazon mostly works. Walmart.com mostly fails.




John Tue, 22 May 2018 09:10:13 -0700 wrote:

So, I'm not totally down on Amazon; I'm just not totally down WITH them 
...

IYKWIM.

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Re: Steller PESO and GESO

[ann sanfedele]

So you know about Clabbers, Alan?  The trouble is, it is even more 
important that you know how to spell the word youare clabbering or it 
comes off the board...


ann

On 5/16/2018 11:53 PM, Alan C wrote:

Clabbers?

Alan C

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Sent: 17 May, 2018 5:26 AM
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That gives you a lot more options in scrabble

On May 16, 2018 8:17:47 PM PDT, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I think stallars was my spell check..  but I have misspelled it before
STELLARS

I can't spell so well on a good day

ann

On 5/16/2018 11:10 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



ann sanfedele wrote:

The one I like best with mom in it is not the sharpest but tells the
story best, I think

20180516-LRC45093

 







Thanks, that's also one of my favorites, for about the same reason.




enjoyed all the snaps , though -- did I ever mentione I love

Stallars

jays? :-)


Yes you have. BTW, Steller's is spelled with two 'e's and now 'a's

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steller%27s_jay



ann

On 5/16/2018 8:15 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Vocal trio

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/41438942014/in/album-72157667013957077/ 







The whole set of various photos of the bird family over the past

week

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157667013957077

The kids are growing up fast, starting to get color in their wings.









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Re: PESO: Red Lily

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Paul.


Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 11:22 AM, Paul Stenquist 
wrote:

> Very nice, Dan. Excellent composition and color.
> Paul
>
> > On May 22, 2018, at 10:42 AM, Daniel J. Matyola 
> wrote:
> >
> > http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/5/20/red-lily
> >
> > K-5 IIs, FA 100 mm F 2.8 Macro
> >
> > Dan Matyola
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: PESO Red Breasted Flier

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Here is a woodpecker on the go:

https://youtu.be/HePVTmr_CDM

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Re: PDML Photo Annual 2018 - Stunning

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

My copy of the PDML Annual showed up today. No time to sit down with it, just a 
quick skim so far, but it's very nicely done. Thanks Mark! and everyone who 
contributed. Things like this are an inspiration. :-)

G
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Re: PDML Photo Annual 2018 - Stunning

[Matthew Hunt]

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 6:48 PM Larry Colen  wrote:

> I've been spending a few decades perfecting boring.

Maybe Elon Musk will hire you.

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Re: PDML Photo Annual 2018 - Stunning

[Larry Colen]

Toralf Lund wrote:


I tend to look for interesting, too, but hardly ever seem to spot any,
so what can you do? :-)


I've been spending a few decades perfecting boring.



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With the babies out of the nest, I'm wrapping up this season's set of 
Steller's jay family portraits.


Here's one of the steller parents yelling at me:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/41565605354/in/album-72157693982849042/

Full set of just the adults
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157693982849042

The past three seasons of baby birds,
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157691352323430/

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Re: PDML Photo Annual 2018 - Stunning

[Toralf Lund]

On 19/05/18 16:28, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Part 3A

I'm PISSED because Bruce Nagel and Larry Colen both called up the ghost of
M C Escher to produce images that just hypnotize me.

I'm PISSED because I took hundreds of images of beautiful orchids in Maui,
and Jan van Wijk came up with an orchid image that brings the flowers alive
to an extent I find frightening.

I'm PISSED because I am always looking for something interesting to
photograph, while Dag Thrane and Toralf Lund took images of nothing and
created compelling works of art.

Thanks.

I tend to look for interesting, too, but hardly ever seem to spot any, 
so what can you do? :-)


- Toralf





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Re: More birds

[Larry Colen]

Paul Stenquist wrote:

Fascinating look at nature!


Thanks Paul.  The kids have left the nest.  I added the last few to 
yesterday's album


Here's the last one  of them in the nest
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/42284846761/in/album-72157691326574300/

and here's one of the kids in the garden
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/42284864721/in/album-72157691326574300/

I've got a bunch  more I'm going through of the parents, I'll post those 
before too awful long, probably in their own set.





full set for them that are interested:
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Re: PESO Silver-studded blue

[Toine]

All insects numbers have declined. On apiaceae, the white umbrella like
flowers, you normally find dozens of insects. Currently none or one insect.
A clean windscreen is very very strange and a flower feeld without any
buzzing even stranger if not scary.

On Tue, 22 May 2018, 21:57 mike wilson,  wrote:

> What tends to happen when ecological balance is disturbed is that
> competition or predation for certain species is reduced and they breed
> prolifically.  For example, reduction in ladybird numbers due to invasion
> by alien competitors has allowed their aphid prey to increase numbers
> exponentially.  You will usually find that the majority of roadkill on the
> front of your vehicle is very limited in diversity.
>
> > On 22 May 2018 at 20:04 Toine  wrote:
> >
> >
> > I like that idea of living in the UK, if it isn't a job as a window
> > cleaner. In germany insects also dropped. Really no problems in the UK?
> >
> > On 22 May 2018 at 20:48, mike wilson  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > On 22 May 2018 at 17:08 Toine  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This one is almost gone, like all insects. Apparently all insects
> show a
> > > > 70-80% decline in the last years. Can't remember the last time I had
> to
> > > > clean my windshield from splashed insects.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.repiuk.nl/content/heideblauwtje/
> > >
> > > Come and live in the UK.  You can have a full time job between now and
> > > September.
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Re: Amazon did it again!

[Daniel J. Matyola]

We have one small photography store in this area (about 20 minutes by car.
They carry very few Pentax items, but in the past, I have told them what I
want and how much it is selling for at B or KEH, and they will order it
and discount it as close to the NYC price as possible.

I hope they hang in there and stay in business until my eyesight fails
completely, making new equipment unnecessary.  


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On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> I never have problems with B, but they were on a religious holiday
> shutdown. No Pentax dealer here at present, but when there was, it was
> strictly list price.
>
> Paul
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> > On May 21, 2018, at 4:53 PM, John  wrote:
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> > That's why, whenever possible, I prefer to buy local. Fortunately for
> me, I have a Pentax dealer nearby.
> >
> >> On 5/21/2018 16:24, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> >> That's so ridiculous.
> >> And for me, I ordered two strapping buckles which were sent in a shoebox
> >> sized package when they could have used a tiny envelope.
> >> G
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> last
> >>> week that was delivered in the Pentax box with a label stuck on it. I
> >>> checked the autofocus fine tuning and found it way out of range. I
> called
> >>> Amazon and told them it was defective, and that they can’t ship lenses
> >>> without packaging. They apologized profusely and send a second lens by
> >>> overnight delivery. The UPS guy arrived with the replacement 70-200
> about
> >>> an hour ago. I met him at the door, rather than having my son handle
> it. I
> >>> was shocked to see that once again, the lens was not boxed! I refused
> >>> delivery. Called Amazon and told them to see if they could figure out
> how
> >>> to put lens number three in a box. They will deliver another one
> tomorrow.
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Re: PESO Silver-studded blue

[mike wilson]

What tends to happen when ecological balance is disturbed is that competition 
or predation for certain species is reduced and they breed prolifically.  For 
example, reduction in ladybird numbers due to invasion by alien competitors has 
allowed their aphid prey to increase numbers exponentially.  You will usually 
find that the majority of roadkill on the front of your vehicle is very limited 
in diversity.

> On 22 May 2018 at 20:04 Toine  wrote:
> 
> 
> I like that idea of living in the UK, if it isn't a job as a window
> cleaner. In germany insects also dropped. Really no problems in the UK?
> 
> On 22 May 2018 at 20:48, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> >
> > > On 22 May 2018 at 17:08 Toine  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > This one is almost gone, like all insects. Apparently all insects show a
> > > 70-80% decline in the last years. Can't remember the last time I had to
> > > clean my windshield from splashed insects.
> > >
> > > https://www.repiuk.nl/content/heideblauwtje/
> >
> > Come and live in the UK.  You can have a full time job between now and
> > September.

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Re: PESO Silver-studded blue

[Toine]

Ah yes. Never noticed this one. Panorama's is the correct spelling in
Dutch.

On 22 May 2018 at 21:40, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

> P.s. That's a beautiful photo.
>
> Pps. There shouldn't be an apostrophe in "Panorama's" - you'll upset
> Chris. The apostrophe indicates a possessive or a contraction, not a plural.
>
> > On 22 May 2018, at 20:34, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> >
> >> On 22 May 2018, at 20:05, Toine  wrote:
> >>
> >> I like that idea of living in the UK, if it isn't a job as a window
> >> cleaner. In germany insects also dropped. Really no problems in the UK?
> >
> > This is where all the shit is these days.
> >
> >>
> >>> On 22 May 2018 at 20:48, mike wilson  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
>  On 22 May 2018 at 17:08 Toine  wrote:
> 
> 
>  This one is almost gone, like all insects. Apparently all insects
> show a
>  70-80% decline in the last years. Can't remember the last time I had
> to
>  clean my windshield from splashed insects.
> 
>  https://www.repiuk.nl/content/heideblauwtje/
> >>>
> >>> Come and live in the UK.  You can have a full time job between now and
> >>> September.
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Re: Last ditch effort to connect

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I have a friend and former partner who specializes in estate litigation.  I
tell everyone his motto is "The only good client is a dead client."

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On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Bill  wrote:

> On 5/22/2018 1:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>> I see you.
>>
>> Then again, "I see dead people."
>>
>
> The peril of being a lawyer
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Re: Last ditch effort to connect

[Bill]

On 5/22/2018 1:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I see you.

Then again, "I see dead people."


The peril of being a lawyer


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Re: PESO Silver-studded blue

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I really like that image, Toine.  Nice detail, pleasing colors and
unobtrusive background.

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On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Toine  wrote:

> This one is almost gone, like all insects. Apparently all insects show a
> 70-80% decline in the last years. Can't remember the last time I had to
> clean my windshield from splashed insects.
>
> https://www.repiuk.nl/content/heideblauwtje/
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Re: Last ditch effort to connect

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I see you.

Then again, "I see dead people."


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On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 12:28 PM, Donald Guthrie 
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> Test of my thunderbird settings. No reply needed.
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Re: PESO Silver-studded blue

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P.s. That's a beautiful photo.

Pps. There shouldn't be an apostrophe in "Panorama's" - you'll upset Chris. The 
apostrophe indicates a possessive or a contraction, not a plural.

> On 22 May 2018, at 20:34, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
>> On 22 May 2018, at 20:05, Toine  wrote:
>> 
>> I like that idea of living in the UK, if it isn't a job as a window
>> cleaner. In germany insects also dropped. Really no problems in the UK?
> 
> This is where all the shit is these days.
> 
>> 
>>> On 22 May 2018 at 20:48, mike wilson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On 22 May 2018 at 17:08 Toine  wrote:
 
 
 This one is almost gone, like all insects. Apparently all insects show a
 70-80% decline in the last years. Can't remember the last time I had to
 clean my windshield from splashed insects.
 
 https://www.repiuk.nl/content/heideblauwtje/
>>> 
>>> Come and live in the UK.  You can have a full time job between now and
>>> September.
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Re: Pentax Photo gallery

[Daniel J. Matyola]

The Pentax Photo Gallery is back online, and appears to be functioning
normally.  Both Bong and I have been able to log in and access the images.

The approval process is now almost 7 months behind.  I don't think that is
explained by a smaller pool of voters, because the pool of submitters would
also have decreased proportionately.  I think it is a case of benign
neglect by Ricoh.

For the time being, I shall continue to submit and vote, even though I
suspect the gallery's days are numbered.


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On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Daniel J. Matyola 
wrote:

> Does anyone know what is happning with the PPG?  Has Ricoh finally killed
> it?  I haven't be able to access it ice May 15.
>
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Re: PESO Silver-studded blue

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On 22 May 2018, at 20:05, Toine  wrote:
> 
> I like that idea of living in the UK, if it isn't a job as a window
> cleaner. In germany insects also dropped. Really no problems in the UK?

This is where all the shit is these days.

> 
>> On 22 May 2018 at 20:48, mike wilson  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 22 May 2018 at 17:08 Toine  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This one is almost gone, like all insects. Apparently all insects show a
>>> 70-80% decline in the last years. Can't remember the last time I had to
>>> clean my windshield from splashed insects.
>>> 
>>> https://www.repiuk.nl/content/heideblauwtje/
>> 
>> Come and live in the UK.  You can have a full time job between now and
>> September.

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Re: PESO Silver-studded blue

[Bill]

On 5/22/2018 1:04 PM, Toine wrote:

I like that idea of living in the UK, if it isn't a job as a window
cleaner. In germany insects also dropped. Really no problems in the UK?




I read something about this on the CBC news website (or I may have heard 
it on their science program Quirks and Quarks). Anyway, what you are 
seeing is the end result of an overuse of pesticides on crops.
Eventually, farmers will have to use Q-Tips to hand pollinate their 
crops as we kill all the pollinators along with the pests.

Except there won't be any cotton to make cotton swabs with..
Oops.
I suspect we have, at most, a couple of decades before the entire 
ecosystem collapses under the weight of our collective stupidity and 
hubris and we all starve to death.

Bone up on your cockroach recipes, that might be the entree of the future.

bill

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Re: PESO Silver-studded blue

[Toine]

I like that idea of living in the UK, if it isn't a job as a window
cleaner. In germany insects also dropped. Really no problems in the UK?

On 22 May 2018 at 20:48, mike wilson  wrote:

>
> > On 22 May 2018 at 17:08 Toine  wrote:
> >
> >
> > This one is almost gone, like all insects. Apparently all insects show a
> > 70-80% decline in the last years. Can't remember the last time I had to
> > clean my windshield from splashed insects.
> >
> > https://www.repiuk.nl/content/heideblauwtje/
>
> Come and live in the UK.  You can have a full time job between now and
> September.
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Re: PESO Silver-studded blue

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> On 22 May 2018 at 17:08 Toine  wrote:
> 
> 
> This one is almost gone, like all insects. Apparently all insects show a
> 70-80% decline in the last years. Can't remember the last time I had to
> clean my windshield from splashed insects.
> 
> https://www.repiuk.nl/content/heideblauwtje/

Come and live in the UK.  You can have a full time job between now and 
September.

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Re: :Re: PESO Silver-studded blue:

[Jack Davis]

Nice, Toine!
You picked a beautiful match.

J


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> On May 22, 2018, at 10:39 AM, Alan C  wrote:
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> Beautiful image. The curse of Neonicotinides.
> 
> Alan C
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:Re: PESO Silver-studded blue:

[Alan C]

Beautiful image. The curse of Neonicotinides.

Alan C

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This one is almost gone, like all insects. Apparently all insects show a
70-80% decline in the last years. Can't remember the last time I had to
clean my windshield from splashed insects.

https://www.repiuk.nl/content/heideblauwtje/
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Re: Amazon did it again!

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> On May 22, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> Which one is that?

Bear Images Photographic in Palo Alto. There are near where K used to be, on 
Lambert Street. They don't have a storefront, they cater mostly to commercial 
and professional photographers. I did a lot of business with them when I was 
running my photo business a decade ago. Good folks. 

> I find San Jose Camera pretty good, I bought my first couple of Pentax bodies 
> there.  They definitely have a range of stuff.

SJ Camera used to be another good shop, but now all I see there is mostly the 
kind of stuff that I bought and was done with an age ago. I see little of the 
old store where the personnel are knowledgeable and helpful to someone past the 
newbie period of photographic efforts. It's sad ... that would be a great and 
convenient place for me if there was anything there I needed or wanted, it's 
just three miles away. 

> Keeble and Shuchat went out of business last year. They were the high end 
> place I knew about.

I think K has been gone two or more years now. I knew the guys there for 
twenty-five years at least. They were a full service shop, with consumer and 
pro sections, darkroom section, their own processing lab, a repair department, 
and a gallery room that I hung at least a few photos in one or two exhibitions. 
I was very sad to see them go out, but all the profit had disappeared from the 
business with the rise of internet buying and ebay. People would go there, get 
loads of help and information from them, and then go buy their equipment 
elsewhere at cut rate prices. The processing business that used to fund a lot 
of that is simply non-existent now. A B just cannot survive that scenario in 
this area, the cost of doing business here is too high. 

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Last ditch effort to connect

[Donald Guthrie]

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Re: PESO Silver-studded blue

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Pretty shot! 

There were certainly enough insects kamakaziing into my faceshield on my way to 
and from Orange County this past weekend. I had to stop and clean off the 
shield at least three times on the way down and then again on the way back. If 
the little buggers would stop flying into cars, trucks, and motorcycles ... 
LOL!! 

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> On May 22, 2018, at 9:08 AM, Toine  wrote:
> 
> This one is almost gone, like all insects. Apparently all insects show a
> 70-80% decline in the last years. Can't remember the last time I had to
> clean my windshield from splashed insects.
> 
> https://www.repiuk.nl/content/heideblauwtje/

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Re: Amazon did it again!

[Larry Colen]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

There's only one decent photo shop left in this neighborhood and they only carry 
high-end medium and large format equipment, really. I should stop in and visit, 
haven't been there in some years now. The next decent B is up in Walnut Creek 
or somewhere like that, an hour or more away and a drive through a mess of 
miserable traffic.


Which one is that?

I find San Jose Camera pretty good, I bought my first couple of Pentax 
bodies there.  They definitely have a range of stuff.


Keeble and Schucat went out of business last year. They were the high 
end place I knew about.





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On May 22, 2018, at 9:08 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

I agree. Wish I had a local store with good pricing and Pentax stock. We did 
have one, but they usually only stocked a bit of Pentax equipment. I haven’t 
visited the other nearby store for quite some time, but last time I was there, 
they didn’t have any Pentax equipment.




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Re: Amazon did it again!

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There's only one decent photo shop left in this neighborhood and they only 
carry high-end medium and large format equipment, really. I should stop in and 
visit, haven't been there in some years now. The next decent B is up in 
Walnut Creek or somewhere like that, an hour or more away and a drive through a 
mess of miserable traffic. 

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> On May 22, 2018, at 9:08 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> I agree. Wish I had a local store with good pricing and Pentax stock. We did 
> have one, but they usually only stocked a bit of Pentax equipment. I haven’t 
> visited the other nearby store for quite some time, but last time I was 
> there, they didn’t have any Pentax equipment.

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Re: PESO 2018 - A Stop by the Side of the Road - GDG

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I should stop back and visit it again. I've visited the mission a couple of 
times, at least once when my mom was visiting me, but the most recent of those 
times has to be 23 to 25 years ago. I remember some interesting story about the 
organ there, but don't recall what it was.

It would be a nice day ride there and back, and there might be some nice photo 
ops ... Some time this summer! :-)

G

On May 22, 2018, at 8:33 AM, l...@red4est.com wrote:

>> Paul Sorenson wrote:
>> 
>>> When you go back, if you're a history buff and haven't done this 
>>> already, stop by the Mission San Juan Bautista and take a look at the 
>>> 18th century barrel organ.  There is an interesting story behind it's 
>>> being there.

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Re: Amazon did it again!

[John]

On 5/21/2018 22:40, steve harley wrote:

On 2018-05-21 14:14, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I was shocked to see that once again, the lens was not boxed! I refused 
delivery. Called Amazon and told them to see if they could figure out how to 
put lens number three in a box. They will deliver another one tomorrow. We 
will see.



be glad you aren't this guy:

 





I will say the time I ordered batteries from Amazon they sent the wrong ones, 
but I was able to find a phone number and talked to someone at an Amazon call 
center (and IF memory serves the call center was here in the U.S.).


I had to cancel my original order and order anew, but the replacement batteries 
they sent were the correct ones.


So, I'm not totally down on Amazon; I'm just not totally down WITH them ... 
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Re: Amazon did it again!

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I agree. Wish I had a local store with good pricing and Pentax stock. We did 
have one, but they usually only stocked a bit of Pentax equipment. I haven’t 
visited the other nearby store for quite some time, but last time I was there, 
they didn’t have any Pentax equipment.

Waiting for lens number three now. I see from the UPS notice that the weight is 
the same as the previous two, which makes me think they did it again. If it 
arrives in the Pentax box I will again refuse delivery. Amazon will have to 
refund my money, but they might cancel my account. They do that. 



> On May 22, 2018, at 11:58 AM, John  wrote:
> 
> As I said, I'm fortunate in that respect. Not knocking B or Amazon, just 
> glad to have the local option.
> 
> On 5/21/2018 16:58, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> I never have problems with B, but they were on a religious holiday
>> shutdown. No Pentax dealer here at present, but when there was, it was
>> strictly list price.
>> Paul
>>> On May 21, 2018, at 4:53 PM, John  wrote:
>>> That's why, whenever possible, I prefer to buy local. Fortunately for me, I
>>> have a Pentax dealer nearby.
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PESO Silver-studded blue

[Toine]

This one is almost gone, like all insects. Apparently all insects show a
70-80% decline in the last years. Can't remember the last time I had to
clean my windshield from splashed insects.

https://www.repiuk.nl/content/heideblauwtje/
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Re: PDML Photo Annual 2018 - Stunning

[Steve Cottrell]

On 22/5/18, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:

> I've been shooting
>actual film on an actual MX recently and one of my shots in the annual was
>one of these.

Hmmm. Something tells me it's the Romanesque church?

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Re: Amazon did it again!

[John]

As I said, I'm fortunate in that respect. Not knocking B or Amazon, just glad 
to have the local option.


On 5/21/2018 16:58, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I never have problems with B, but they were on a religious holiday
shutdown. No Pentax dealer here at present, but when there was, it was
strictly list price.

Paul


On May 21, 2018, at 4:53 PM, John  wrote:

That's why, whenever possible, I prefer to buy local. Fortunately for me, I
have a Pentax dealer nearby.



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Re: PESO 2018 - A Stop by the Side of the Road - GDG

[lrc]

Probably in fourth or fifth grade if I remember my California elementary school 
curriculum of the 1960s correctly.

On May 21, 2018 2:14:51 PM PDT, Mark Roberts  wrote:
>Paul Sorenson wrote:
>
>>When you go back, if you're a history buff and haven't done this 
>>already, stop by the Mission San Juan Bautista and take a look at the 
>>18th century barrel organ.  There is an interesting story behind it's 
>>being there.
>
>Speaking of missions, did you know that Cotty once built a model of
>the Mission at San Luis Obispo out of sugar cubes?
>
>True.
>
>http://www.robertstech.com/quot2004.htm
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Re: More birds

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Fascinating look at nature!
Paul

> On May 22, 2018, at 11:03 AM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> Thanks Dan.  It's fun having the nest right outside my living room, when I 
> hear the kids making "feed me" noises I can grab my camera.
> 
> On May 22, 2018 6:31:29 AM PDT, "Daniel J. Matyola"  
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>> I just love this series.  Fascinating!
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
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>> 
>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 3:39 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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>>> I got a few more photos of the Steller family
>>> 
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>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/42272774071/in/album-
>>> 72157691326574300/
>>> 
>>> full set for them that are interested:
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157691326574300
>>> 
>>> All shot with the sigma 50-500 on the K-3II, with a few of them I set
>> up
>>> lights to get a few more photons under the eaves.
>>> 
>>> And in the department of just because I could, some photos of a
>> hummer
>>> taken at 75mm
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157697102417695
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Re: PESO: Red Lily

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Very nice, Dan. Excellent composition and color.
Paul

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> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/5/20/red-lily
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Re: More birds

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Thanks Dan.  It's fun having the nest right outside my living room, when I hear 
the kids making "feed me" noises I can grab my camera.

On May 22, 2018 6:31:29 AM PDT, "Daniel J. Matyola"  
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>
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>On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 3:39 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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>> I got a few more photos of the Steller family
>>
>> Here's one of Mom and the kids:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/42272774071/in/album-
>> 72157691326574300/
>>
>> full set for them that are interested:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157691326574300
>>
>> All shot with the sigma 50-500 on the K-3II, with a few of them I set
>up
>> lights to get a few more photons under the eaves.
>>
>> And in the department of just because I could, some photos of a
>hummer
>> taken at 75mm
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157697102417695
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Re: PDML Photo Annual 2018 - Stunning

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On 18 May 2018 at 00:05, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

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> Stunned. And also a little sad that some of our best snappers aren't in
> due to lack of Pentax gear. Maybe worth pressing an old Pentax lens into
> service on those Leicas and Fujis eh? If Chris Mitchell can figure it
> out. ;-)
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Yep, it certainly ain't rocket science. But actually, I've been shooting
actual film on an actual MX recently and one of my shots in the annual was
one of these.

Chris

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PESO: Red Lily

[Daniel J. Matyola]

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/5/20/red-lily

K-5 IIs, FA 100 mm F 2.8 Macro

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Re: PESO: Pollen

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks for looking Jack.

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On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 6:03 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:

> Just too crowded, Dan.
> Glorious flower.
> J
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On May 22, 2018, at 12:39 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> >
> > Very nice!
> >
> > Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> >> From the lilies we bought recently:
> >>
> >> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/5/20/pollen
> >>
> >> K-5 IIs, FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8
> >> Comments are invited.
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Re: PESO: Pollen

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Thanks, Larry.

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On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 3:39 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> Very nice!
>
>
> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>>  From the lilies we bought recently:
>>
>> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/5/20/pollen
>>
>> K-5 IIs, FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8
>> Comments are invited.
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Re: More birds

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I just love this series.  Fascinating!

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> I got a few more photos of the Steller family
>
> Here's one of Mom and the kids:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/42272774071/in/album-
> 72157691326574300/
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> full set for them that are interested:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157691326574300
>
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> lights to get a few more photons under the eaves.
>
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Re: PESO: greater racket-tailed drongo

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Quite interesting!

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On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 3:03 AM, Subash Jeyan  wrote:

> greater racket-tailed drongo:
>
> https://somethingfeathered.wordpress.com/2018/05/22/
> greater-racket-tailed-drongo/
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> k5iis, FA*300/4.5
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Re: :greater racket tailed drongo:

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thanks Paul. will look into the levels...

On Tue, 22 May 2018 07:57:43 -0400
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> Strange creature! Nicely captured, but perhaps in need of a slight
> levels adjustment to brighten the midrange.
> 

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Re: :greater racket tailed drongo:

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Strange creature! Nicely captured, but perhaps in need of a slight levels 
adjustment to brighten the midrange.

Paul

> On May 22, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Subash Jeyan  wrote:
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> thank you Jack...for the one on the other as well...
> 
> On Tue, 22 May 2018 02:57:05 -0700
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>> WOW! Fascinating!
>> Especially clean, sharp image,
>> Subash!
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Re: :greater racket tailed drongo:

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thank you Jack...for the one on the other as well...

On Tue, 22 May 2018 02:57:05 -0700
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> WOW! Fascinating!
> Especially clean, sharp image,
> Subash!
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Re: PESO: greater racket-tailed drongo

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Seriously amazing creation!
J

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> On May 22, 2018, at 12:03 AM, Subash Jeyan  wrote:
> 
> greater racket-tailed drongo:
> 
> https://somethingfeathered.wordpress.com/2018/05/22/greater-racket-tailed-drongo/
> 
> k5iis, FA*300/4.5
> 
> 
> comments appreciated...
> 
> ~subash
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Re: PESO: Pollen

[Jack Davis]

Just too crowded, Dan.
Glorious flower.
J

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> On May 22, 2018, at 12:39 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> Very nice!
> 
> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>> From the lilies we bought recently:
>> 
>> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/5/20/pollen
>> 
>> K-5 IIs, FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8
>> Comments are invited.
>> 
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Re: :greater racket tailed drongo:

[Jack Davis]

WOW! Fascinating!
Especially clean, sharp image,
Subash!
J

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> On May 22, 2018, at 1:28 AM, Subash Jeyan  wrote:
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> On Tue, 22 May 2018 10:07:20 +0200
> "Alan C"  wrote:
> 
>> What an amazing bird!
> 
> isn't it? here's another angle (not that particular bird though):
> 
> https://somethingfeathered.wordpress.com/grtd/
> 
> i don't have a straight-on angle yet :)
> 
> subash
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> https://somethingfeathered.wordpress.com/2018/05/22/greater-racket-tailed-drongo/
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Re: :greater racket tailed drongo:

[Subash Jeyan]

On Tue, 22 May 2018 10:07:20 +0200
"Alan C"  wrote:

> What an amazing bird!

isn't it? here's another angle (not that particular bird though):

https://somethingfeathered.wordpress.com/grtd/

i don't have a straight-on angle yet :)

subash





> https://somethingfeathered.wordpress.com/2018/05/22/greater-racket-tailed-drongo/

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:greater racket tailed drongo:

[Alan C]

What an amazing bird!

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Subash Jeyan

Sent: 22 May, 2018 9:03 AM
To: pdml
Subject: PESO: greater racket-tailed drongo

greater racket-tailed drongo:

https://somethingfeathered.wordpress.com/2018/05/22/greater-racket-tailed-drongo/

k5iis, FA*300/4.5


comments appreciated...

~subash

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Re: PESO: Pollen

[Larry Colen]

Very nice!

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 From the lilies we bought recently:

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/5/20/pollen

K-5 IIs, FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8
Comments are invited.

Dan Matyola
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More birds

[Larry Colen]

I got a few more photos of the Steller family

Here's one of Mom and the kids:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/42272774071/in/album-72157691326574300/

full set for them that are interested:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157691326574300

All shot with the sigma 50-500 on the K-3II, with a few of them I set up 
lights to get a few more photons under the eaves.


And in the department of just because I could, some photos of a hummer 
taken at 75mm

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157697102417695


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PESO: greater racket-tailed drongo

[Subash Jeyan]

greater racket-tailed drongo:

https://somethingfeathered.wordpress.com/2018/05/22/greater-racket-tailed-drongo/

k5iis, FA*300/4.5


comments appreciated...

~subash

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:Re: Korhaan - Owner of the Eye:

[Alan C]

Thanks for looking, Jack, Ann, Dave & anyone else.

Very slow birds - Road Strollers!

Alan C

-Original Message- 
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Sent: 21 May, 2018 9:23 AM
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Subject: Re: PESO: Korhaan - Owner of the Eye

Interesting little fellow.  I thought it looked a bit like a miniature 
ostrich.  My wife asked if it's a road runner.  My daughter pointed and said 
"duck duck".


Cheers,
Dave


On May 21, 2018, at 3:59 PM, c...@lantic.net wrote:



A Korhaan ambling across the road near Sable Dam, Kruger Park.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/27334586647/ [1]

The male performs an impressive mating ritual which I have never seen
live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI-L1XwGM64

Alan C


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:Re: :Re: Test::

[Alan C]

I use Live Mail like that. Separate folders for everything & Storage 
Folders/Archives too. I did set up Thunderbird yesterday (just in case) but 
am reluctant to leave Live Mail in spite of the fact it is now discontinued 
by Microsoft. It was a big wrench leaving Outlook Express which didn't work 
beyond XP.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Walters

Sent: 21 May, 2018 10:45 PM
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Subject: Re: :Re: Test:


On 22 May 2018 at 04:44 ann sanfedele  wrote:


Brian I use thunderbird for everything... but the PDML mail has it's own
folderbased on filters... that's what is so neat about Thunderbird -
well one of the things anyway


Yeah - I know.  I could use Thunderbird that way for PDMl but I started 
using
webmail for the PDML long before I changed to Thunderbird and I just got 
used to

that way of working.


Cheers
Brian

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On 5/21/2018 1:49 PM, Alan C wrote:
> Brian
>
> I discovered the most amazing thing. If I put a colon (:) at the
> beginning & end of the subject line, it sends just fine.
>
> Alan C
>
> -Original Message- From: Brian Walters
> Sent: 21 May, 2018 1:35 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Fw: Test
>
> Hmmm - don't think I can help.  I don't use Windows Live Mail. For
> normal email
> I use Thunderbird but for the PDML I use my lyons-ryan domain's web
> mail so that
> list messages don't get mixed up with other mail.
>
> Perhaps there are others who might have a better insight into the issue.
>
> Cheers
> Brian
>
>
>
>> On 21 May 2018 at 17:19 Alan C  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Alan C
>> Sent: 20 May, 2018 11:57 AM
>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>> Subject: Re: Test
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> I'm having e-mail problems.
>>
>> I can send using Windows Live Mail which I've always used but the
>> e-mails
>> just vanish.
>>
>> The one you replied to was send directly from Vox Telecoms Webmail,
>> not from
>> the normal user's @lantic.
>>
>> I did mostly receive the other PDML posts OK but none from Jack Davis
>> or Ann
>> Sanfedele (I have to access those from the Archives). I have missed a
>> couple
>> of Bank e-mails too.
>>
>> At one stage I found I could send OK if I removed or simplified the
>> Subject
>> line but now that does,'t work any more. I can't even send to myself.
>>
>> I have now set the Vox Webmail to not delete after sending or
>> receiving via
>> Live Mail which may throw some light on the problem.
>>
>> Perhaps you have some suggestions?
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan
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