Re: Rome Walk 1

2018-11-30 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nice gallery;  ity really captures the feeling of the city as I remember it.

I especially like the image of part of the fountain at Navonna, and the
following image of the Pantheon.  What church is that after the Pantheon?


Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 6:01 PM Rick Womer  wrote:

> I took enough pix on our walk through central Rome on the last day of our
> trip that I’m dividing them into two galleries. Herewith the first:
>
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/Italy-11-2018/Rome-Walk-1/
>
> Comments always appreciated.
>
> Rick
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Fun with lenses and a musical digression

2018-11-30 Thread Larry Colen

Completely off topic:
While I was working on this post I ran across this link to a Mongolian 
rock band, with some interesting cinematography in the video


https://www.phantomsway.com/2018/11/17/we-didnt-know-we-needed-mongolian-folk-rock-until-we-heard-it/?fbclid=IwAR2kusOkZjWqnzS8Gwe6FZkreCrTgfdFA9KAn_W0Y1sgYnOIluf1rHHLmIk

The good news:
In a fit of fiscal irresponsibility I just picked up a used 43mm ltd for 
$300, I got it today and I can see pretty much no evidence that it's 
ever been used. It should be fun to play with.
I'm not entirely thrilled with the stock shade and lens cap, I'm certain 
that if I were to use them for any length of time I'd lose the fancy 
metal lens cap.


This probably is going to seriously suck:
My 15-30 came back from Precision. On the bright side, it does seem to 
autofocus now, although it didn't one of the times I tested it.

The tag came back
Returning unit unrepaired, unit is BER due to liquid damage.
There was no charge on the tag.

So, it may have shown up, they took it apart, put it back together and 
it may be working fine, for no charge, which would be awesome if the 
problem was just a connector that got knocked loose, but if something is 
fubar inside and will progressively get worse, then this is really going 
to suck.


Precision's customer relations is unnecessarily bad.  It would be 
trivial for them to be able to email the customer when important 
milestones are reached. I could spend a page and a half on the whole 
sordid tale, but I'm desperately short on fucks to give.  If I do ever 
change camera brands though, Precision would be a major reason.  On 
facebook, a friend commented that he has the same grief with them and Sony.



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Re: Rome Walk 1

2018-11-30 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Subash! Very glad you enjoyed it.

Rick

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 20:22 Subash Jeyan  wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 17:57:40 -0500
> Rick Womer  wrote:
>
> > I took enough pix on our walk through central Rome on the last day of
> > our trip that I’m dividing them into two galleries. Herewith the
> > first:
> >
> > https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/Italy-11-2018/Rome-Walk-1/
>
> that's a lovely gallery. quite enjoyed it
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Re: Landing Snows ll

2018-11-30 Thread Alan C
Quite an amazing image actually. The large version is better. I think 
you should also post a large heavy crop of, say, the upper central group 
against the tree so we can see just how good that big DFA really is.


Alan C

On 01-Dec-18 03:31 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Hoping I've been able to reduce the size of the earlier version to accomodate

  more screens. (for those not reviewing images with their phone.)



https://www.photo.net/photo/18509266



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GESO November faves

2018-11-30 Thread Larry Colen

It's that time of the month where I post my favorites from the month
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157703344120004

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Re: PESO 2018 - 120 - GDG

2018-11-30 Thread John

What does "polite company" have to do with PDML?

On 11/30/2018 17:41, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Well, I think young Stef is a bit taller than his dad now, but I’m not even
going to conjecture about this “longer” business. That’s not a discussion for
polite company. =8^)

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On Nov 30, 2018, at 2:19 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:

I'm guessing he's just been bragging again. (;-)

J

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 30, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Paul Stenquist 
wrote:

I don’t know how anything could make Cotty look longer. He’s one of the
longest people I know!



On Nov 30, 2018, at 2:42 PM, Steve Cottrell 
wrote:

On 30/11/18, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:


There is so much construction going on nearby our home at present
it's hard not to go there and make photographs:

https://flic.kr/p/2bSD17k


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Landing Snows ll

2018-11-30 Thread Jack Davis


Hoping I've been able to reduce the size of the earlier version to accomodate

 more screens. (for those not reviewing images with their phone.)



https://www.photo.net/photo/18509266



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Re: Rome Walk 1

2018-11-30 Thread Subash Jeyan
On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 17:57:40 -0500
Rick Womer  wrote:

> I took enough pix on our walk through central Rome on the last day of
> our trip that I’m dividing them into two galleries. Herewith the
> first:
> 
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/Italy-11-2018/Rome-Walk-1/

that's a lovely gallery. quite enjoyed it

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Peso

2018-11-30 Thread Jack Davis



Yes, Gray Lodge again, but this time I found a flight of snow geese sailing in 
for a landing.


Shot with the usual equipment.


Took advantage of a dry blue-sky day caught in the pattern of rain.


You'll be pleased to learn that this will probably be my last "Snow Goose" day 
of the season.


C?

Thanks!


J


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Rome Walk 1

2018-11-30 Thread Rick Womer
I took enough pix on our walk through central Rome on the last day of our trip 
that I’m dividing them into two galleries. Herewith the first:

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/Italy-11-2018/Rome-Walk-1/

Comments always appreciated.

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Re: PESO 2018 - 120 - GDG

2018-11-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Well, I think young Stef is a bit taller than his dad now, but I’m not even 
going to conjecture about this “longer” business. That’s not a discussion for 
polite company. =8^)

G



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> On Nov 30, 2018, at 2:19 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> I'm guessing he's just been bragging again. (;-)
> 
> J
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t know how anything could make Cotty look longer. He’s one of the 
>> longest people I know!
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 2:42 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 30/11/18, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>> 
 There is so much construction going on nearby our home at present it's
 hard not to go there and make photographs:
 
 https://flic.kr/p/2bSD17k
>>> 
>>> Like it. Made me look longer!
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: PESO 2018 - 120 - GDG

2018-11-30 Thread Jack Davis
I'm guessing he's just been bragging again. (;-)

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> I don’t know how anything could make Cotty look longer. He’s one of the 
> longest people I know!
> 
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 2:42 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>> 
>> On 30/11/18, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> 
>>> There is so much construction going on nearby our home at present it's
>>> hard not to go there and make photographs:
>>> 
>>> https://flic.kr/p/2bSD17k
>> 
>> Like it. Made me look longer!
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> 
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Re: OT? I detest digital photography

2018-11-30 Thread Scott Loveless
I'd like to make a suggestion going forward, though it won't help you
recover what has already been lost.  I do hope you're able to get your
work back.

Implement something local like FreeNAS, which uses ZFS and software
RAID.  You'll need some hardware and a few drives.  For example, I
have a 1U rack server with 4 1TB drives in it.  I have a total of
1.7TB of available storage in that box.  So if a drive fails, I can
simply remove it and plug in a new one without loss of data.  There
are turnkey NAS solutions, but FreeNAS is pretty easy to set up, will
run on just about any X86-64 box, and their documentation is top
notch.

Then, buy some off-site storage to mirror your local storage.
https://www.rsync.net/pricing.html  Those guys also use ZFS, so it
should be pretty straightforward to use something like "zfs send" to
keep everything in sync.

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 3:12 PM mike wilson  wrote:

> the stuff of nightmares

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Re: PESO 2018 - 120 - GDG

2018-11-30 Thread ann sanfedele

Har!  - Terrific fun, Gooders  - perfect geometry :-)

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On 11/30/2018 9:48 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

There is so much construction going on nearby our home at present it's hard not 
to go there and make photographs:

   https://flic.kr/p/2bSD17k

enjoy!
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Re: OT? I detest digital photography

2018-11-30 Thread mike wilson
> On 30 November 2018 at 19:42 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 30/11/18, Alan C, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >Laptops have an advantage.
> 
> That stirred a memory. I have only ever owned one desktop computer in my 
> life. Always had portable machines after that. Don't know why, probably part 
> of the job (being mobile). The wife gets hand-me-downs so we're totally 
> laptop here. I've never though of power-related hard drive crashes before. 
> And we get power cuts about once or twice a month of the flickery-lights type 
> you mention, Mike.

I seem to have an affinity for them.  One caused me untold troubles with Paypal.

> 
> Just a bit of mobile meandering. Commiserations.
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December PUG - Last Call

2018-11-30 Thread Brian Walters
G'day all

I'll be closing submissions on Monday 3 December, Sydney time.

Theme: Water

As usual submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Full Submission Guidelines here:

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Re: PESO 2018 - 120 - GDG

2018-11-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
I don’t know how anything could make Cotty look longer. He’s one of the longest 
people I know!


> On Nov 30, 2018, at 2:42 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 30/11/18, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> There is so much construction going on nearby our home at present it's
>> hard not to go there and make photographs:
>> 
>> https://flic.kr/p/2bSD17k
> 
> Like it. Made me look longer!
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
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Re: OT? I detest digital photography

2018-11-30 Thread mike wilson


> On 30 November 2018 at 09:11 Jostein  wrote:
> 
> 
> Oh, bugger!
> 
> Hope you get it fixed!
> 
> If it's any consolation, my experience is that when drives becomes 
> unbootable after a power glitch, it's usually because the allocation 
> table or boot sector is corrupted because that's where it was writing 
> something at the time of the glitch. Which means that the data probably 
> is intact.
> 
> Did you try to mount the drives in a different computer?
> 
> Jostein

Not yet.  It's been a more than usually fragmented week, of which more offlist 
when I have time.

> 
> Den 29.11.2018 19:32, skrev mike wilson:
> > I've had three hard drives on the go for a while.  Two at home and one off 
> > site.  The off site one croaked so I had a replacement to format.  Before 
> > that kicked off, I added some files to one of the other drives and then 
> > started backing that up to the other.  At which point we had one of those 
> > micro disruptions, where all the lights flicker - and computers reboot.  
> > Now neither of the drives is responsive - about four years' work.  Did I 
> > mention I hate digital photography?

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Re: OT? I detest digital photography

2018-11-30 Thread mike wilson


> On 30 November 2018 at 08:10 Subash Jeyan  wrote:
> 
> 
> i have had success in the past with TestDisk/PhotoRec:
> https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
> 
> as the above site says, "PhotoRec ignores the file system and goes after
> the underlying data, so it will still work even if your media's file system
> has been severely damaged or reformatted."
> command line only but very effective

Command line is good.  Many thanks.

> 
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 11:29 AM mike wilson 
> wrote:
> 
> > I'm not sure spinrite is suitable for this occurence.  My home system is
> > Linux and any disc recovery is beyond my meagre computing skills, so I'm
> > taking it in to work to see if any of the techs there will help me.
> >
> > > On 30 November 2018 at 03:18 Alan C  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > There are specialists who can recover data from "damaged" HD's.
> > >
> > > Alan C
> > >
> > > On 29-Nov-18 08:32 PM, mike wilson wrote:
> > > > I've had three hard drives on the go for a while.  Two at home and one
> > off site.  The off site one croaked so I had a replacement to format.
> > Before that kicked off, I added some files to one of the other drives and
> > then started backing that up to the other.  At which point we had one of
> > those micro disruptions, where all the lights flicker - and computers
> > reboot.  Now neither of the drives is responsive - about four years' work.
> > Did I mention I hate digital photography?

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Re: PESO 2018 - 120 - GDG

2018-11-30 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 30/11/18, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>There is so much construction going on nearby our home at present it's
>hard not to go there and make photographs:
>
>  https://flic.kr/p/2bSD17k

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Re: OT? I detest digital photography

2018-11-30 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 30/11/18, Alan C, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Laptops have an advantage.

That stirred a memory. I have only ever owned one desktop computer in my life. 
Always had portable machines after that. Don't know why, probably part of the 
job (being mobile). The wife gets hand-me-downs so we're totally laptop here. 
I've never though of power-related hard drive crashes before. And we get power 
cuts about once or twice a month of the flickery-lights type you mention, Mike.

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Re: I'm not sure if I should be happy or sad about this.

2018-11-30 Thread John

On 11/30/2018 12:44, P. J. Alling wrote:
I managed to drop my copy of the Sigma 70-219 f4~5.6 off my desk a fall of about 
4 feet.  This needless to say would probably cause serious damage to almost any 
other lens I own.  I know, because well...


The Sigma, completely unfazed.  No apparent damage at all. Files are sharp, from 
corner to corner.  Should I be happy about this or a little depressed.




If you're looking for an excuse to replace it, you could always try dropping it 
again.


I'd suggest finding somewhere with more height. A five story parking garage 
should do the trick.


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Re: OT? I detest digital photography

2018-11-30 Thread John

On 11/29/2018 17:02, P. J. Alling wrote:
The third drive might just be suffering from a bad controller board. The two 
that died in the machine probably have scrambled information in the boot sector, 
it's really bad luck when that happens, if they respond to the OS at all there 
are utilities that can analyze the drive and maybe rewrite that sector so the 
data is accessible, I haven't had much luck with those methods lately.




FDISK /MBR  worked well back in DOS days, but I haven't tried it with anything 
after Windoze95 (which was still really a DOS shell). Don't know what the 
equivalent command would be for Mac or Apple.


If the drives are old enough, and they are all the same model with the same 
firmware, you may be able to take the controller board from one of the drives in 
your machine, and perform a transplant.  Needless to say this will void the 
hardware warranty.   Also it may make things worse, though how that could be I 
don't know.


There are YouTube videos that give detailed instructions on how to do both.  I'd 
give some but as I've said, I haven't had a lot of luck recovering drives lately...




For older IDE and SATA drives there are vendors who sell refurbished controller 
boards. They're not that expensive. Twenty-five to Fifty dollars when I looked 
into it. In today's world that's chicken feed.


The YouTube videos can also give you information about whether your drive's 
symptoms suggest it would be one where replacing the controller board would work.


I wouldn't trust a drive using one of those boards for the long haul, but if I 
had a dead drive that I needed to recover DATA from I'd give it a try. If it 
works, your data is worth a lot more than the controller costs and if it fails 
you're no worse off than you were to begin with.


I've been fortunate so far that all the drives I've had fail were duplicated, so 
none of my critical data was lost. I do need to get busy and find a new OFF-SITE 
backup scheme.




On 11/29/2018 4:09 PM, mike wilson wrote:

On 29 November 2018 at 20:43 John  wrote:


On 11/29/2018 13:32, mike wilson wrote:

I've had three hard drives on the go for a while.  Two at home and one off
site.  The off site one croaked so I had a replacement to format.  Before
that kicked off, I added some files to one of the other drives and then
started backing that up to the other.  At which point we had one of those
micro disruptions, where all the lights flicker - and computers reboot.  Now
neither of the drives is responsive - about four years' work.  Did I mention
I hate digital photography?


Ouchies! I hope the third drive has the images duplicated & you can recover.


Third drive was already dead.






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I'm not sure if I should be happy or sad about this.

2018-11-30 Thread P. J. Alling
I managed to drop my copy of the Sigma 70-219 f4~5.6 off my desk a fall 
of about 4 feet.  This needless to say would probably cause serious 
damage to almost any other lens I own.  I know, because well...


The Sigma, completely unfazed.  No apparent damage at all. Files are 
sharp, from corner to corner.  Should I be happy about this or a little 
depressed.


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Re: PESO 2018 - 120 - GDG

2018-11-30 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Interesting image.  Almost looks like tiny men walking on the top of the
fence.

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On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 9:52 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi 
wrote:

> There is so much construction going on nearby our home at present it's
> hard not to go there and make photographs:
>
>   https://flic.kr/p/2bSD17k
>
> enjoy!
> G
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PESO 2018 - 120 - GDG

2018-11-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
There is so much construction going on nearby our home at present it's hard not 
to go there and make photographs:

  https://flic.kr/p/2bSD17k

enjoy!
G
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Re: OT? I detest digital photography

2018-11-30 Thread Jostein

Oh, bugger!

Hope you get it fixed!

If it's any consolation, my experience is that when drives becomes 
unbootable after a power glitch, it's usually because the allocation 
table or boot sector is corrupted because that's where it was writing 
something at the time of the glitch. Which means that the data probably 
is intact.


Did you try to mount the drives in a different computer?

Jostein

Den 29.11.2018 19:32, skrev mike wilson:

I've had three hard drives on the go for a while.  Two at home and one off 
site.  The off site one croaked so I had a replacement to format.  Before that 
kicked off, I added some files to one of the other drives and then started 
backing that up to the other.  At which point we had one of those micro 
disruptions, where all the lights flicker - and computers reboot.  Now neither 
of the drives is responsive - about four years' work.  Did I mention I hate 
digital photography?



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Re: OT? I detest digital photography

2018-11-30 Thread Subash Jeyan
i have had success in the past with TestDisk/PhotoRec:
https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec

as the above site says, "PhotoRec ignores the file system and goes after
the underlying data, so it will still work even if your media's file system
has been severely damaged or reformatted."
command line only but very effective

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 11:29 AM mike wilson 
wrote:

> I'm not sure spinrite is suitable for this occurence.  My home system is
> Linux and any disc recovery is beyond my meagre computing skills, so I'm
> taking it in to work to see if any of the techs there will help me.
>
> > On 30 November 2018 at 03:18 Alan C  wrote:
> >
> >
> > There are specialists who can recover data from "damaged" HD's.
> >
> > Alan C
> >
> > On 29-Nov-18 08:32 PM, mike wilson wrote:
> > > I've had three hard drives on the go for a while.  Two at home and one
> off site.  The off site one croaked so I had a replacement to format.
> Before that kicked off, I added some files to one of the other drives and
> then started backing that up to the other.  At which point we had one of
> those micro disruptions, where all the lights flicker - and computers
> reboot.  Now neither of the drives is responsive - about four years' work.
> Did I mention I hate digital photography?
> > >
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