Re: PESO: Citrus Swallowtail

[Subash Jeyan]

On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 15:58:51 +0200
Alan C  wrote:

> Something to brighten your day.
> 
> Citrus Swallowtail (Papilio demodocus). Many of our Papilio spp.
> don't actually have tails.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/49760698771/

very nice. it is a common butterfly here too though they are called
lime swallowtail here...

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Re: Lockdown life #2

[John Francis]

On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 05:54:09PM +0200, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
> Am 11.04.20 um 17:02 schrieb Bob Pdml:
> 
> > I saw two aeroplanes on the approach to Heathrow - imagine that!
> 
> There's still a fair amount of cargo in the air but next to no passenger
> traffic. This link should show you all airplanes currently on their way
> to or from Heathrow:

I keep meaning to take a look at exactly how many flights are operating.
The last little company I worked for is in the business of working with
flight data, and I've still got a login acount there in case they need the
software fixed; there's no longer anyone working there who understands it.

One little fringe benefit of that is that I've got access to an archive of
all the passenger flight schedules worldwide for the last couple of years.


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Re: Scanning old negs

[John Francis]

On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 11:23:36AM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Apr 11, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks Godfrey. Lots to mull over. I thought about that mixed density issue 
> > yesterday evening. Problem is, to try these ideas at the moment i???d have 
> > to buy a full set-up, since nowhere is open like a photo club where i could 
> > experiment. I???m very reluctant to spend money at the moment as there???s 
> > a good chance i could be furloughed - they???ve already started at work - 
> > and although they are making people???s pay up to 100% (at the moment) and 
> > I am ready to draw my pension anyway, there is so much uncertainty around 
> > that I am only spending on absolute necessities until the picture is a bit 
> > clearer.
> 
> 
> You are so much more grownup than I am.  My thought processes generally go 
> more like:
> 
> I???m worried about losing my job, I should buy these things while I still 
> can.

My wife will be retiring at the end of the year - I'm already retired.
We're definitely in the "trying to avoid too much spending while our
retirement investment portfolio (hopefully) recovers" category.

I am considering one significant purchase, though; I'll probably be buying
a new camera of some kind.  Until recently I'd only been contemplating the
new Pentax APS-C flagship (assuming it ever gets released).  But an outing
with Larry & Boris made me realise that I'm getting a bit too old to lug a
heavy bag full of lenses and suchlike around. That made me look at what it
would cost me to switch over to something lighter; the Olympus E-M1 Mk III
and a few matching lenses.  Fortunately I unexpectedly landed a short-term
job at the end of last year, so the funds have already been set aside.

It will be a while before I come to any firm decision.  But if I do decide
to go the Olympus route there'll probably be a few Pentax lenses for sale.


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Re: PESO: Citrus Swallowtail

[Alan C]

Thanks, Dan & Larry. In the warm Lowveld we have butterflies all the 
year round. The cooler season versions tend to be darker in colour. 
Gynandromorphs, mixtures of the cold & warm weather ones are frequently 
encountered.


Alan C

On 11-Apr-20 09:28 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Very Nice!
I can't wait until butterfly season here.  So far, only a solitary cabbage
white.

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On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 9:59 AM Alan C  wrote:


Something to brighten your day.

Citrus Swallowtail (Papilio demodocus). Many of our Papilio spp. don't
actually have tails.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/49760698771/

K5 & Sigma 170-500 DG @ 250mm, f8, 1/1600, ISO 1000.


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Re: PESOs Half Male, Half Female?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

The difference is not that obvious to my eye.

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On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 4:05 PM Paul Stenquist 
wrote:

> I shot this bird perching this afternoon. He appeared to be an ordinary
> Cardinal.
>
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18593470/Bilateral-Gynandromorph-Cardinal
>
> Then it flew to the feeder. I normally don’t shoot birds at the feeder,
> but I did this time because when seen in profile it appeared to by what
> they call a Bilateral Gynandromorph Cardinal — half male, half female but
> not a hermaphrodite. Now juvenile Cardinals can have some brown markings,
> but this bird appears too large to be a juvenile, particularly at this time
> of years.
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Re: PESOs Half Male, Half Female?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

One of my favorite scenes from one of my favorite movies.

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On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 4:09 PM Bob Pdml  wrote:

> https://youtu.be/qWS2NVX6VP0
>
>
> > On 11 Apr 2020, at 21:05, Paul Stenquist 
> wrote:
> >
> > I shot this bird perching this afternoon. He appeared to be an ordinary
> Cardinal.
> >
> > https://www.photo.net/photo/18593470/Bilateral-Gynandromorph-Cardinal
> >
> > Then it flew to the feeder. I normally don’t shoot birds at the feeder,
> but I did this time because when seen in profile it appeared to by what
> they call a Bilateral Gynandromorph Cardinal — half male, half female but
> not a hermaphrodite. Now juvenile Cardinals can have some brown markings,
> but this bird appears too large to be a juvenile, particularly at this time
> of years.
> >
> > https://www.photo.net/photo/18593471/Bilateral-Gynandromorph-Cardinal
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Re: PESOs Half Male, Half Female?

[mike wilson]

> On 11 April 2020 at 21:04 Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> 
> I shot this bird perching this afternoon. He appeared to be an ordinary 
> Cardinal.
> 
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18593470/Bilateral-Gynandromorph-Cardinal
> 
> Then it flew to the feeder. I normally don’t shoot birds at the feeder, but I 
> did this time because when seen in profile it appeared to by what they call a 
> Bilateral Gynandromorph Cardinal — half male, half female but not a 
> hermaphrodite. Now juvenile Cardinals can have some brown markings, but this 
> bird appears too large to be a juvenile, particularly at this time of years.
> 
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18593471/Bilateral-Gynandromorph-Cardinal

I'm not seeing an obvious difference to the sides of the head.  I've seen the 
phenomenon in Zebra finches, that have a distinct tan cheek patch in males that 
is missing in females.  Is that what I'm looking for here?

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Re: PESO: Waltzing Ferries

[Paul Stenquist]

I like the light and the composition. Nice!

Paul

> On Apr 11, 2020, at 4:05 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> That’s nice - the sunlight one looks as though it’s escaping
> 
>> On 11 Apr 2020, at 20:20, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
>> 
>> Brilliant light for ages and not a single ship in sight and once there
>> was this group of three only one of them was in the sunlight.
>> 
>> Then again, I like it the way it is. Do you?
>> 
>> https://www.fotocommunity.de/photo/wie-das-so-ist-mit-dem-licht-fotoralfbe/43700436
>> 
>> Ralf
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Re: PESO: Waltzing Ferries

[Larry Colen]

> On Apr 11, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Brilliant light for ages and not a single ship in sight and once there
> was this group of three only one of them was in the sunlight.
> 
> Then again, I like it the way it is. Do you?
> 
> https://www.fotocommunity.de/photo/wie-das-so-ist-mit-dem-licht-fotoralfbe/43700436

I think it’s far more interesting this way.

> 
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Re: PESOs Half Male, Half Female?

[Bob Pdml]

https://youtu.be/qWS2NVX6VP0


> On 11 Apr 2020, at 21:05, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> I shot this bird perching this afternoon. He appeared to be an ordinary 
> Cardinal.
> 
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18593470/Bilateral-Gynandromorph-Cardinal
> 
> Then it flew to the feeder. I normally don’t shoot birds at the feeder, but I 
> did this time because when seen in profile it appeared to by what they call a 
> Bilateral Gynandromorph Cardinal — half male, half female but not a 
> hermaphrodite. Now juvenile Cardinals can have some brown markings, but this 
> bird appears too large to be a juvenile, particularly at this time of years.
> 
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18593471/Bilateral-Gynandromorph-Cardinal
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Re: PESO: Waltzing Ferries

[Bob Pdml]

That’s nice - the sunlight one looks as though it’s escaping

> On 11 Apr 2020, at 20:20, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Brilliant light for ages and not a single ship in sight and once there
> was this group of three only one of them was in the sunlight.
> 
> Then again, I like it the way it is. Do you?
> 
> https://www.fotocommunity.de/photo/wie-das-so-ist-mit-dem-licht-fotoralfbe/43700436
> 
> Ralf
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PESOs Half Male, Half Female?

[Paul Stenquist]

I shot this bird perching this afternoon. He appeared to be an ordinary 
Cardinal.

https://www.photo.net/photo/18593470/Bilateral-Gynandromorph-Cardinal

Then it flew to the feeder. I normally don’t shoot birds at the feeder, but I 
did this time because when seen in profile it appeared to by what they call a 
Bilateral Gynandromorph Cardinal — half male, half female but not a 
hermaphrodite. Now juvenile Cardinals can have some brown markings, but this 
bird appears too large to be a juvenile, particularly at this time of years.

https://www.photo.net/photo/18593471/Bilateral-Gynandromorph-Cardinal
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Pentax offering the 645Z for 3999 Euro in Germany

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Just received an email from Ricoh-Pentax Germany. They're offering the
645Z for 3999 euros.

Ralf

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Re: Scanning old negs

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I'd play with the copy camera type of scanning ideas using whatever you have 
currently to start. A "copy stand" can be your existing tripod, if you have a 
normal lens and a couple of close up lenses, that can get you into the right 
magnification range. It's sometimes amazing the quality you can get with just 
that kind of stuff. :) Obviously, if you want to go with a scanner solution, 
you have to buy that piece of equipment. 

Yeah, current times throws a lot of uncertainty into the game. Being 
financially conservative now makes good sense. I'm glad I made cash outlay for 
the big purchases that came earlier this year in the middle of last Summer, 
when the market was high. 

G

> On Apr 11, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Godfrey. Lots to mull over. I thought about that mixed density issue 
> yesterday evening. Problem is, to try these ideas at the moment i’d have to 
> buy a full set-up, since nowhere is open like a photo club where i could 
> experiment. I’m very reluctant to spend money at the moment as there’s a good 
> chance i could be furloughed - they’ve already started at work - and although 
> they are making people’s pay up to 100% (at the moment) and I am ready to 
> draw my pension anyway, there is so much uncertainty around that I am only 
> spending on absolute necessities until the picture is a bit clearer.
> 
> Cheers,
> Bob


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Re: PESO: Citrus Swallowtail

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Very Nice!
I can't wait until butterfly season here.  So far, only a solitary cabbage
white.

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On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 9:59 AM Alan C  wrote:

> Something to brighten your day.
>
> Citrus Swallowtail (Papilio demodocus). Many of our Papilio spp. don't
> actually have tails.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/49760698771/
>
> K5 & Sigma 170-500 DG @ 250mm, f8, 1/1600, ISO 1000.
>
>
> Alan C
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Re: PESO: Max

[Daniel J. Matyola]

What a charming animal!

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On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 11:29 PM Bill  wrote:

> We've had Max for a year and a half. We aren't quite sure what he is
> other than a sweet little dog.
> We are told he is a Shepherd cross, and he has some behaviors of the
> breed, but he didn't get the looks.
>
> Anyway, this was shot on the K1 with the D FA 70-210
> 115mm, f/4.5 @1/500 second.
> I, of course, focused on his nose.
>
> Anyway, enjoy.
>
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/max.html
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PESO: Waltzing Ferries

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Brilliant light for ages and not a single ship in sight and once there
was this group of three only one of them was in the sunlight.

Then again, I like it the way it is. Do you?

https://www.fotocommunity.de/photo/wie-das-so-ist-mit-dem-licht-fotoralfbe/43700436

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Re: Scanning old negs

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I haven't tried that particular Epson scanner, Paul. But at that price, and the 
inevitable size that such a scanner has to be, it's both too big to have for 
the amount of use I have for it, and I don't believe it would produce 
sufficiently more resolution and consistency than the Nikon Coolscan V ED to be 
worth both its size and price. I'm sure it wouldn't outperform the Nikon Super 
Coolscan 9000 ED that I had for a time, and sold for the same reasons. That was 
the best film scanner I've ever used, modulo that same Hasselblad Imacon 
scanner (which I could rent time on at the local camera pro shop once upon a 
day.. the shop went out of business a few years ago). I had the Epson V700 Pro 
once upon a day too, and sold it because it just didn't net anything better 
than other scanners I had. My friend uses it quite happily still. 

Of course, the Nikon scanner is long out of production and only available used 
now, where the 850 Pro is available new. 

By and large, I would not take the published resolution numbers of the flatbed 
scanners as being actually achievable. I measured resolution on the V700 and my 
ancient Epson 2450 and found the actual resolution on the V700 was only 2900 
PPI and the 2450's 1800 ppi (supposed to achieve something like 2900 ppi by the 
specs IIRC). Measured resolution on the Nikon Coolscan V actually achieves 3950 
ppi (spec: 4000 ppi). 

I never bought the Imacon scanner either because of its price…  :)

G


> On Apr 11, 2020, at 11:34 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> The Epson 850 Pro offers extremely high resolution, “glass” film holders and 
> fine focus adjustment by means of the film holders. I’ve tried numerous 
> dedicated film scanners, including most of Nikon’s. The only one Ive used 
> that outperformed the 850 Pro was a Hasselblad Imacon scanner. But at about 
> 8k it’s too rich for my blood. The Epson 850 Pro isn’t exactly cheap. I think 
> it goes for about $1100.
> 
> Paul
> [… snip]

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Re: Scanning old negs

[Bob Pdml]

Thanks Paul, that looks as though it’s worth considering.

B

> On 11 Apr 2020, at 19:35, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> The Epson 850 Pro offers extremely high resolution, “glass” film holders and 
> fine focus adjustment by means of the film holders. I’ve tried numerous 
> dedicated film scanners, including most of Nikon’s. The only one Ive used 
> that outperformed the 850 Pro was a Hasselblad Imacon scanner. But at about 
> 8k it’s too rich for my blood. The Epson 850 Pro isn’t exactly cheap. I think 
> it goes for about $1100.
> 
> Paul
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2020, at 1:50 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Godfrey. Lots to mull over. I thought about that mixed density issue 
>> yesterday evening. Problem is, to try these ideas at the moment i’d have to 
>> buy a full set-up, since nowhere is open like a photo club where i could 
>> experiment. I’m very reluctant to spend money at the moment as there’s a 
>> good chance i could be furloughed - they’ve already started at work - and 
>> although they are making people’s pay up to 100% (at the moment) and I am 
>> ready to draw my pension anyway, there is so much uncertainty around that I 
>> am only spending on absolute necessities until the picture is a bit clearer.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Bob
>> 
 On 11 Apr 2020, at 16:42, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Bob!
>>> 
>>> I do/have done quite a lot of negative, transparency, and small print 
>>> capture over the past thirty years using all sorts of scanners, copy camera 
>>> setups, and fixtures. I still shoot film in several formats—Minox to 6x9 
>>> plus instant film prints. Here's a brief synopsis of my thoughts:
>>> 
>>> - A dedicated film scanner nearly always produces better resolution and 
>>> detailing than any flatbed scanning solution, almost regardless of pixel 
>>> count, because any good one includes a focusing lens that will pinpoint the 
>>> correct focus accurately. Trying to obtain this precision with any flatbed 
>>> scanner is almost impossible, and is certainly quite a bit of work and 
>>> inconvenience. You can get this precision with a copy camera approach 
>>> presuming you take care in your focusing and have a reliable fixture for 
>>> camera and film that holds them in precise alignment.
>>> 
>>> - For smaller than 35mm film, generally speaking the copy camera approach 
>>> produces the best results for the simple reason that I can net a higher 
>>> pixel count that is more editable with a copy camera setup than I can with 
>>> a 4000 ppi film scanner, given today's DSLR and EVF cameras. For example, 
>>> given a 35mm original, an Olympus E-M1 can produce up to a 15.9 Mpixel 
>>> image BUT  since the format proportion is not isomorphic, the actual 
>>> negative scan data will be less than that. My Nikon Coolscan V ED (LS-50) 
>>> film scanner will net 21.4 Mpixels at the limit, a copy camera approach 
>>> with the Leica CL or SL will net 24 Mpixels. For Minox film, to show an 
>>> extreme, the scanner drops way down to 2.2 Mpixels but both cameras can do 
>>> nearly the same as they do with 35mm film. 
>>> 
>>> - For 35mm strips, it's a toss up now as to whether a good copy camera 
>>> approach or a good film scanner approach produces the best results. The key 
>>> problem with a dedicated scanner approach is how much time it takes to do 
>>> the job; the key problem with the copy camera approach is the quality of 
>>> the configuration, the time for setup, and how repeatable the configuration 
>>> is from frame to frame. You don't want to have to refocus for every frame 
>>> if you're doing volumes of negs with a copy camera … this is where 
>>> expensive fixtures like the Negative Supply film carrier make very good 
>>> sense despite their price. (Since I have the Nikon LS-50 and I don't shoot 
>>> 35mm all that much, I give up on the time for 35mm and just use the film 
>>> scanner. For medium format, where I really need to have a better fixture 
>>> and have worked a dozen different fixtures already with only middling 
>>> success/consistency, I've got a pledge/pre-order in place to get their film 
>>> carrier as soon as it gets to market. It will be the right solution, 
>>> finally; wish I could have produced one myself!)
>>> 
>>> - For me, the notion of scanning a whole roll of 35mm in one go and 
>>> producing a contact page of images to look at in a single scan is not 
>>> particularly useful. The variations in image density, etc, through a roll 
>>> of film makes it really tough to produce useable images that way that are 
>>> consistently easy to view and assess for further work. I did that for my 
>>> Minox negs and found the amount of time I had to put into adjusting each 
>>> frame on the exposure to be a bigger time sink than just capturing each 
>>> frame was with a consistent setup. For 35mm, when I want to produce a 
>>> contact sheet, I simply scan the whole roll with the film scanner or copy 
>>> camera, and then use LR to adjust them all, using a "similar 

Easter streak

[Bob Pdml]

Some good photos here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-52241453

The third one in particular is excellent, and reminds me very much of this 
famous shot:
https://deadspin.com/the-story-behind-the-perfect-photo-of-sports-first-stre-1789434691


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Re: OT Quarantine Quisine

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I am experimenting with Blue Apron for a few weeks during the quarantine.
Not cheap, but introducing us to interesting ingredients that I would
otherwise not think of using.  Also, the only thing left over afterwards is
garlic.  Like me, they love garlic.

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On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 4:41 AM Larry Colen  wrote:

> In theory, cooking at home more gives me an opportunity to improve my
> diet, eating both better food and more healthy food.
>
> In practice I do things like grating all of the small random bits of
> cheese left in my fridge and make a lasagna using sliced potatoes rather
> than pasta.  Moderation was not helped by finding a bottle of very tasty
> 2004 Zin in my wine rack.  After my third helping, I  put it in the
> leftovers in the fridge while there were still leftovers.  I may, however,
> do something about the siren song of  haagen dazs sitting in the freezer.
>
> By request, I’ve been keeping a photo album of many of the things that
> I’ve been cooking during isolation.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/C3h3bFe2PQWfTHJ19
>
> I am certain that the pandemic is going to prove to be a growth experience.
>
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Re: Scanning old negs

[Paul Stenquist]

The Epson 850 Pro offers extremely high resolution, “glass” film holders and 
fine focus adjustment by means of the film holders. I’ve tried numerous 
dedicated film scanners, including most of Nikon’s. The only one Ive used that 
outperformed the 850 Pro was a Hasselblad Imacon scanner. But at about 8k it’s 
too rich for my blood. The Epson 850 Pro isn’t exactly cheap. I think it goes 
for about $1100.

Paul

> On Apr 11, 2020, at 1:50 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Godfrey. Lots to mull over. I thought about that mixed density issue 
> yesterday evening. Problem is, to try these ideas at the moment i’d have to 
> buy a full set-up, since nowhere is open like a photo club where i could 
> experiment. I’m very reluctant to spend money at the moment as there’s a good 
> chance i could be furloughed - they’ve already started at work - and although 
> they are making people’s pay up to 100% (at the moment) and I am ready to 
> draw my pension anyway, there is so much uncertainty around that I am only 
> spending on absolute necessities until the picture is a bit clearer.
> 
> Cheers,
> Bob
> 
>> On 11 Apr 2020, at 16:42, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bob!
>> 
>> I do/have done quite a lot of negative, transparency, and small print 
>> capture over the past thirty years using all sorts of scanners, copy camera 
>> setups, and fixtures. I still shoot film in several formats—Minox to 6x9 
>> plus instant film prints. Here's a brief synopsis of my thoughts:
>> 
>> - A dedicated film scanner nearly always produces better resolution and 
>> detailing than any flatbed scanning solution, almost regardless of pixel 
>> count, because any good one includes a focusing lens that will pinpoint the 
>> correct focus accurately. Trying to obtain this precision with any flatbed 
>> scanner is almost impossible, and is certainly quite a bit of work and 
>> inconvenience. You can get this precision with a copy camera approach 
>> presuming you take care in your focusing and have a reliable fixture for 
>> camera and film that holds them in precise alignment.
>> 
>> - For smaller than 35mm film, generally speaking the copy camera approach 
>> produces the best results for the simple reason that I can net a higher 
>> pixel count that is more editable with a copy camera setup than I can with a 
>> 4000 ppi film scanner, given today's DSLR and EVF cameras. For example, 
>> given a 35mm original, an Olympus E-M1 can produce up to a 15.9 Mpixel image 
>> BUT  since the format proportion is not isomorphic, the actual negative scan 
>> data will be less than that. My Nikon Coolscan V ED (LS-50) film scanner 
>> will net 21.4 Mpixels at the limit, a copy camera approach with the Leica CL 
>> or SL will net 24 Mpixels. For Minox film, to show an extreme, the scanner 
>> drops way down to 2.2 Mpixels but both cameras can do nearly the same as 
>> they do with 35mm film. 
>> 
>> - For 35mm strips, it's a toss up now as to whether a good copy camera 
>> approach or a good film scanner approach produces the best results. The key 
>> problem with a dedicated scanner approach is how much time it takes to do 
>> the job; the key problem with the copy camera approach is the quality of the 
>> configuration, the time for setup, and how repeatable the configuration is 
>> from frame to frame. You don't want to have to refocus for every frame if 
>> you're doing volumes of negs with a copy camera … this is where expensive 
>> fixtures like the Negative Supply film carrier make very good sense despite 
>> their price. (Since I have the Nikon LS-50 and I don't shoot 35mm all that 
>> much, I give up on the time for 35mm and just use the film scanner. For 
>> medium format, where I really need to have a better fixture and have worked 
>> a dozen different fixtures already with only middling success/consistency, 
>> I've got a pledge/pre-order in place to get their film carrier as soon as it 
>> gets to market. It will be the right solution, finally; wish I could have 
>> produced one myself!)
>> 
>> - For me, the notion of scanning a whole roll of 35mm in one go and 
>> producing a contact page of images to look at in a single scan is not 
>> particularly useful. The variations in image density, etc, through a roll of 
>> film makes it really tough to produce useable images that way that are 
>> consistently easy to view and assess for further work. I did that for my 
>> Minox negs and found the amount of time I had to put into adjusting each 
>> frame on the exposure to be a bigger time sink than just capturing each 
>> frame was with a consistent setup. For 35mm, when I want to produce a 
>> contact sheet, I simply scan the whole roll with the film scanner or copy 
>> camera, and then use LR to adjust them all, using a "similar exposure and 
>> content" batch approach to rough in the adjustments very quickly, and 
>> assemble them into a grid print that I can put out on standard letter paper 
>> if I want it for records keeping (can be 

Re: Scanning old negs

[Larry Colen]

> On Apr 11, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Godfrey. Lots to mull over. I thought about that mixed density issue 
> yesterday evening. Problem is, to try these ideas at the moment i’d have to 
> buy a full set-up, since nowhere is open like a photo club where i could 
> experiment. I’m very reluctant to spend money at the moment as there’s a good 
> chance i could be furloughed - they’ve already started at work - and although 
> they are making people’s pay up to 100% (at the moment) and I am ready to 
> draw my pension anyway, there is so much uncertainty around that I am only 
> spending on absolute necessities until the picture is a bit clearer.


You are so much more grownup than I am.  My thought processes generally go more 
like:

I’m worried about losing my job, I should buy these things while I still can.

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Re: PESO: Citrus Swallowtail

[Larry Colen]

That’s an excellent photo.  

> On Apr 11, 2020, at 6:58 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Something to brighten your day.
> 
> Citrus Swallowtail (Papilio demodocus). Many of our Papilio spp. don't 
> actually have tails.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/49760698771/
> 
> K5 & Sigma 170-500 DG @ 250mm, f8, 1/1600, ISO 1000.
> 
> 
> Alan C
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Re: Scanning old negs

[Bob Pdml]

Thanks Godfrey. Lots to mull over. I thought about that mixed density issue 
yesterday evening. Problem is, to try these ideas at the moment i’d have to buy 
a full set-up, since nowhere is open like a photo club where i could 
experiment. I’m very reluctant to spend money at the moment as there’s a good 
chance i could be furloughed - they’ve already started at work - and although 
they are making people’s pay up to 100% (at the moment) and I am ready to draw 
my pension anyway, there is so much uncertainty around that I am only spending 
on absolute necessities until the picture is a bit clearer.

Cheers,
Bob

> On 11 Apr 2020, at 16:42, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bob!
> 
> I do/have done quite a lot of negative, transparency, and small print capture 
> over the past thirty years using all sorts of scanners, copy camera setups, 
> and fixtures. I still shoot film in several formats—Minox to 6x9 plus instant 
> film prints. Here's a brief synopsis of my thoughts:
> 
> - A dedicated film scanner nearly always produces better resolution and 
> detailing than any flatbed scanning solution, almost regardless of pixel 
> count, because any good one includes a focusing lens that will pinpoint the 
> correct focus accurately. Trying to obtain this precision with any flatbed 
> scanner is almost impossible, and is certainly quite a bit of work and 
> inconvenience. You can get this precision with a copy camera approach 
> presuming you take care in your focusing and have a reliable fixture for 
> camera and film that holds them in precise alignment.
> 
> - For smaller than 35mm film, generally speaking the copy camera approach 
> produces the best results for the simple reason that I can net a higher pixel 
> count that is more editable with a copy camera setup than I can with a 4000 
> ppi film scanner, given today's DSLR and EVF cameras. For example, given a 
> 35mm original, an Olympus E-M1 can produce up to a 15.9 Mpixel image BUT  
> since the format proportion is not isomorphic, the actual negative scan data 
> will be less than that. My Nikon Coolscan V ED (LS-50) film scanner will net 
> 21.4 Mpixels at the limit, a copy camera approach with the Leica CL or SL 
> will net 24 Mpixels. For Minox film, to show an extreme, the scanner drops 
> way down to 2.2 Mpixels but both cameras can do nearly the same as they do 
> with 35mm film. 
> 
> - For 35mm strips, it's a toss up now as to whether a good copy camera 
> approach or a good film scanner approach produces the best results. The key 
> problem with a dedicated scanner approach is how much time it takes to do the 
> job; the key problem with the copy camera approach is the quality of the 
> configuration, the time for setup, and how repeatable the configuration is 
> from frame to frame. You don't want to have to refocus for every frame if 
> you're doing volumes of negs with a copy camera … this is where expensive 
> fixtures like the Negative Supply film carrier make very good sense despite 
> their price. (Since I have the Nikon LS-50 and I don't shoot 35mm all that 
> much, I give up on the time for 35mm and just use the film scanner. For 
> medium format, where I really need to have a better fixture and have worked a 
> dozen different fixtures already with only middling success/consistency, I've 
> got a pledge/pre-order in place to get their film carrier as soon as it gets 
> to market. It will be the right solution, finally; wish I could have produced 
> one myself!)
> 
> - For me, the notion of scanning a whole roll of 35mm in one go and producing 
> a contact page of images to look at in a single scan is not particularly 
> useful. The variations in image density, etc, through a roll of film makes it 
> really tough to produce useable images that way that are consistently easy to 
> view and assess for further work. I did that for my Minox negs and found the 
> amount of time I had to put into adjusting each frame on the exposure to be a 
> bigger time sink than just capturing each frame was with a consistent setup. 
> For 35mm, when I want to produce a contact sheet, I simply scan the whole 
> roll with the film scanner or copy camera, and then use LR to adjust them 
> all, using a "similar exposure and content" batch approach to rough in the 
> adjustments very quickly, and assemble them into a grid print that I can put 
> out on standard letter paper if I want it for records keeping (can be kept 
> with the negatives…) and quick selection that way. I usually don't bother and 
> just keep them in LR electronically, since that's where I'm going to do the 
> bulk of my selection and such anyway. 
> 
> - ANY film/small print scanning will take a modest investment in equipment 
> and a modest—but probably larger—investment in time spent learning how to get 
> what you want out of it consistently and reliably. If you're going to use a 
> Micro-FourThirds based copy camera approach, I found the Pansonic-Leica 
> Macro-Elmarit-DG 45mm f/2.8 

Re: Lockdown life #2

[Bob Pdml]

> On 11 Apr 2020, at 16:54, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 11.04.20 um 17:02 schrieb Bob Pdml:
>> Two more, from today’s ride to Kew Bridge and back. One says “Thank you bus 
>> drivers”, the other is s view of Strand-on-the-Green at low tide.
> 
> Both great but if I had to decide I'd go for the second one. In my next
> life, I'll be stinking rich and have a beautiful house somewhere on a
> waterfront.

Thanks. Oddly enough, Strand-otg is not that bad compared to other parts of 
London. It is a very nice little spot, but the traffic around Kew Bridge and 
parts of Chiswick is awful, normally. At the moment it’s a joy.

> 
>> I saw two aeroplanes on the approach to Heathrow - imagine that!
> 
> There's still a fair amount of cargo in the air but next to no passenger
> traffic.

The second of the planes had no fuselage windows, so was clearly cargo. Or 
extraordinary rendition. 


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Re: Lockdown life

[Mark Roberts]

Rick Womer wrote:

>Our son is an internal medicine resident/registrar in NYC, and is seeing 
>almost 
>nothing but COVID these days. He came down with it himself a couple of weeks 
>ago; he felt horrible for a while (and had his parents rather anxious), but is 
>now recovered and planning to return to work Monday. His wife is a nurse on 
>what has become an all-COVID unit, so there is still anxiety in the air around 
>here.

Glad to hear your son's OK. I'll keep my fingers crossed for his wife!

Boston is pretty much locked down. I'm teaching all my courses online
now. It sucks but at least with photography it's possible. I have no
idea how the professors teaching sculpture or printmaking manage.
Lisa's back at work but she gets to stay in her lab with her
microscope so her exposure is minimized. And her workload is down
because all elective surgery has been cancelled.

Lisa walks to work and back every day (it's just under 2 miles to the
hospital). I get out once a day to take a run, usually just 5 miles on
an out-and-back route that's pretty quiet, but on Saturday I treat
myself to a long run. Very few people out.

Stay safe.
 
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Re: Lockdown life

[Ken Waller]

There’s a lot of similar stupidity going on in my state re the virus.
While big box hardware stores are open to the public, some items are off limits 
for purchase like planting material and plants. Also power boating has just 
been put off limits and landscaping firms are not allowed to operate ie, grass 
cutting outfits are prevented from cutting grass. The craziness continues.


-Original Message-
>From: David Mann 
>Sent: Apr 11, 2020 1:43 AM
>Subject: Re: Lockdown life
>
>On Apr 11, 2020, at 10:05 AM, Brian W  wrote:
>
>> Of course, over this Easter weekend, the self indulgent feel they still have 
>> a
>> right to drive to their favourite holiday spots - the police are turning 
>> back as
>> many as they can and issuing substantial fines.
>
>That's happened here as well.  Some were being turned back some 300km into 
>their journey.  The police have also warned that if you make it through on the 
>way out, you may be turned back to your holiday house when you try to return.
>
>The German government has chartered flights to repatriate their citizens from 
>NZ so there has been a 747 taking off from my city every morning for the past 
>few days.  It's pretty rare to see those here.  They've done flyovers a couple 
>of times but I was busy indoors for the first one and today I only just caught 
>a faraway glimpse as they didn't fly over my part of the city.  They certainly 
>make some noise at takeoff!
>
>Cheers,
>Dave


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Re: Even More Water

[Ken Waller]

Bill, have you ever tried the multiple, in camera, exposures process available 
with the later Pentax cameras? 

I’ve used it for similar scenes and have gotten results similar to what you 
have posted.  



-Original Message-
>From: Bill 
>Sent: Apr 11, 2020 12:27 AM
>Subject: Even More Water
>
>This is a 28 image stack from the K1 with the D FA* 50/1.4
>Each exposure was 30 seconds at f/7.1
>There would have been a polarizing filter and a neutral density filter 
>involved.
>
>http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/wilson748.html
>
>Enjoy
>
>bill


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Re: Scanning old negs

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Hi Bob!

I do/have done quite a lot of negative, transparency, and small print capture 
over the past thirty years using all sorts of scanners, copy camera setups, and 
fixtures. I still shoot film in several formats—Minox to 6x9 plus instant film 
prints. Here's a brief synopsis of my thoughts:

- A dedicated film scanner nearly always produces better resolution and 
detailing than any flatbed scanning solution, almost regardless of pixel count, 
because any good one includes a focusing lens that will pinpoint the correct 
focus accurately. Trying to obtain this precision with any flatbed scanner is 
almost impossible, and is certainly quite a bit of work and inconvenience. You 
can get this precision with a copy camera approach presuming you take care in 
your focusing and have a reliable fixture for camera and film that holds them 
in precise alignment.

- For smaller than 35mm film, generally speaking the copy camera approach 
produces the best results for the simple reason that I can net a higher pixel 
count that is more editable with a copy camera setup than I can with a 4000 ppi 
film scanner, given today's DSLR and EVF cameras. For example, given a 35mm 
original, an Olympus E-M1 can produce up to a 15.9 Mpixel image BUT  since the 
format proportion is not isomorphic, the actual negative scan data will be less 
than that. My Nikon Coolscan V ED (LS-50) film scanner will net 21.4 Mpixels at 
the limit, a copy camera approach with the Leica CL or SL will net 24 Mpixels. 
For Minox film, to show an extreme, the scanner drops way down to 2.2 Mpixels 
but both cameras can do nearly the same as they do with 35mm film. 

- For 35mm strips, it's a toss up now as to whether a good copy camera approach 
or a good film scanner approach produces the best results. The key problem with 
a dedicated scanner approach is how much time it takes to do the job; the key 
problem with the copy camera approach is the quality of the configuration, the 
time for setup, and how repeatable the configuration is from frame to frame. 
You don't want to have to refocus for every frame if you're doing volumes of 
negs with a copy camera … this is where expensive fixtures like the Negative 
Supply film carrier make very good sense despite their price. (Since I have the 
Nikon LS-50 and I don't shoot 35mm all that much, I give up on the time for 
35mm and just use the film scanner. For medium format, where I really need to 
have a better fixture and have worked a dozen different fixtures already with 
only middling success/consistency, I've got a pledge/pre-order in place to get 
their film carrier as soon as it gets to market. It will be the right solution, 
finally; wish I could have produced one myself!)

- For me, the notion of scanning a whole roll of 35mm in one go and producing a 
contact page of images to look at in a single scan is not particularly useful. 
The variations in image density, etc, through a roll of film makes it really 
tough to produce useable images that way that are consistently easy to view and 
assess for further work. I did that for my Minox negs and found the amount of 
time I had to put into adjusting each frame on the exposure to be a bigger time 
sink than just capturing each frame was with a consistent setup. For 35mm, when 
I want to produce a contact sheet, I simply scan the whole roll with the film 
scanner or copy camera, and then use LR to adjust them all, using a "similar 
exposure and content" batch approach to rough in the adjustments very quickly, 
and assemble them into a grid print that I can put out on standard letter paper 
if I want it for records keeping (can be kept with the negatives…) and quick 
selection that way. I usually don't bother and just keep them in LR 
electronically, since that's where I'm going to do the bulk of my selection and 
such anyway. 

- ANY film/small print scanning will take a modest investment in equipment and 
a modest—but probably larger—investment in time spent learning how to get what 
you want out of it consistently and reliably. If you're going to use a 
Micro-FourThirds based copy camera approach, I found the Pansonic-Leica 
Macro-Elmarit-DG 45mm f/2.8 lens was a godsend for this kind of work : infinity 
to 1:1 magnification, all internal focusing, and near perfect correction all 
the way through the range. The Olympus ZD 35 Macro and 50 Macro lenses did very 
well too, adapted to mFT, albeit that the 35 Macro needs a bit of rectilinear 
correction for copy work at this scale. (I haven't used either the 30 or 60mm 
macro lenses available now.) For copying nominal 35mm frames with mFT, you need 
about 1:2.1-2.3 magnification, depending on just how much latitude you want in 
positioning the negatives to allow easy framing in post process afterwards with 
minimal cropping loss. 

(I use the Leica CL body for this work nowadays, typically with the 
Macro-Elmarit-R 60mm f/2.8 or Summicron-R 50mm f/2 lenses. Both produce 
outstanding results and are 

Re: Lockdown life #2

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 11.04.20 um 17:02 schrieb Bob Pdml:

Two more, from today’s ride to Kew Bridge and back. One says “Thank you bus 
drivers”, the other is s view of Strand-on-the-Green at low tide.


Both great but if I had to decide I'd go for the second one. In my next
life, I'll be stinking rich and have a beautiful house somewhere on a
waterfront.


I saw two aeroplanes on the approach to Heathrow - imagine that!


There's still a fair amount of cargo in the air but next to no passenger
traffic. This link should show you all airplanes currently on their way
to or from Heathrow:

https://www.flightradar24.com/31.79,-10.62/3#

If you get a whole screen full of planes, go to the vertical row of
buttons on the right, click on the 3rd from the top (Filters), select
'airport' and enter 'LHR', then '+'.

Ralf

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Re: Even More Water

[Stanley Halpin]

Very nice!

> On Apr 11, 2020, at 12:27 AM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> This is a 28 image stack from the K1 with the D FA* 50/1.4
> Each exposure was 30 seconds at f/7.1
> There would have been a polarizing filter and a neutral density filter 
> involved.
> 
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/wilson748.html
> 
> Enjoy
> 
> bill
> 


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Lockdown life #2

[Bob Pdml]

Two more, from today’s ride to Kew Bridge and back. One says “Thank you bus 
drivers”, the other is s view of Strand-on-the-Green at low tide.

https://adobe.ly/3eaMdSE

I saw two aeroplanes on the approach to Heathrow - imagine that! Even rarer, 
while eating lunch by the river I saw two red kites, possibly a pair, 
spiralling upwards on the thermals where the planes usually fly. I’ve never 
seen red kites in London before. Too far for a photo.


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PESO: Citrus Swallowtail

[Alan C]

Something to brighten your day.

Citrus Swallowtail (Papilio demodocus). Many of our Papilio spp. don't 
actually have tails.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/49760698771/

K5 & Sigma 170-500 DG @ 250mm, f8, 1/1600, ISO 1000.


Alan C

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Re: PESO: Max

[Bulent Celasun]

Looks lovely.
Might have some Border Collie relatives.
(Not that I know well).

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Bill , 11 Nis 2020 Cmt, 06:29 tarihinde şunu yazdı:
>
> We've had Max for a year and a half. We aren't quite sure what he is
> other than a sweet little dog.
> We are told he is a Shepherd cross, and he has some behaviors of the
> breed, but he didn't get the looks.
>
> Anyway, this was shot on the K1 with the D FA 70-210
> 115mm, f/4.5 @1/500 second.
> I, of course, focused on his nose.
>
> Anyway, enjoy.
>
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/max.html
>
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Re: Even More Water

[David J Brooks]

Excellent, love this one

Dave

On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 12:28 AM Bill  wrote:

> This is a 28 image stack from the K1 with the D FA* 50/1.4
> Each exposure was 30 seconds at f/7.1
> There would have been a polarizing filter and a neutral density filter
> involved.
>
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/wilson748.html
>
> Enjoy
>
> bill
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Re: PESO: Max

[David J Brooks]

Nice dog, nice nose

Dave

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 11:29 PM Bill  wrote:

> We've had Max for a year and a half. We aren't quite sure what he is
> other than a sweet little dog.
> We are told he is a Shepherd cross, and he has some behaviors of the
> breed, but he didn't get the looks.
>
> Anyway, this was shot on the K1 with the D FA 70-210
> 115mm, f/4.5 @1/500 second.
> I, of course, focused on his nose.
>
> Anyway, enjoy.
>
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OT Quarantine Quisine

[Larry Colen]

In theory, cooking at home more gives me an opportunity to improve my diet, 
eating both better food and more healthy food.

In practice I do things like grating all of the small random bits of cheese 
left in my fridge and make a lasagna using sliced potatoes rather than pasta.  
Moderation was not helped by finding a bottle of very tasty 2004 Zin in my wine 
rack.  After my third helping, I  put it in the leftovers in the fridge while 
there were still leftovers.  I may, however, do something about the siren song 
of  haagen dazs sitting in the freezer. 

By request, I’ve been keeping a photo album of many of the things that I’ve 
been cooking during isolation.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/C3h3bFe2PQWfTHJ19

I am certain that the pandemic is going to prove to be a growth experience.


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Re: Lockdown life

[Bob Pdml]

Hi Rick,

Glad to hear your son got through it in one piece. It must be very worrying for 
you all at the front line, and I read every day of doctors and nurses 
succumbing to it. 

It is a very heroic effort.  

Over here I think the NHS will be politically untouchable for a generation once 
this is over. At least, I hope so. Over there I hope it brings a realisation 
that there is a place for a decent healthcare system that supports everybody in 
society. 

Regards,
Bob

> On 11 Apr 2020, at 00:48, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Bob, as usual those are excellent photos (though I would have enjoyed the 
> second one more if those hideous red and green structures in the background 
> were rendered in B!).
> 
> Here in Philadelphia, the transit is running on a Sunday schedule, with 
> several bus, tram, and train lines shut completely. Churches (including ours) 
> are using Zoom for services. I’ve been working from home, and I “walk to 
> work” in the morning with a circuit of the nearby park, where dog-walkers are 
> about the only other people out. In the evening it is more active, but still 
> nowhere near normal.
> 
> The park has a basketball court, which was jammed until the city removed the 
> hoops on Monday. There are still a few courts in the city the crews haven’t 
> gotten to yet, and apparently they’re still jammed. It’s hard to imagine a 
> better place for COVID to spread than a basketball court in heavy use.
> 
> Our case count is rising, but not at a crisis point yet; but we’ve always 
> been a couple of weeks behind New York City in these things.
> 
> Our son is an internal medicine resident/registrar in NYC, and is seeing 
> almost nothing but COVID these days. He came down with it himself a couple of 
> weeks ago; he felt horrible for a while (and had his parents rather anxious), 
> but is now recovered and planning to return to work Monday. His wife is a 
> nurse on what has become an all-COVID unit, so there is still anxiety in the 
> air around here.
> 
> Stay well, all,
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Apr 10, 2020, at 6:05 PM, Brian W  wrote:
>> 
>> It's much the same here.  We have to stay at home except for essential 
>> services
>> but we can go for a walk for exercise - no more than two people and 
>> maintaining
>> social distancing.
>> 
>> Of course, over this Easter weekend, the self indulgent feel they still have 
>> a
>> right to drive to their favourite holiday spots - the police are turning 
>> back as
>> many as they can and issuing substantial fines.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Brian
>> 
>> ++
>> Brian Walters
>> Western Sydney Australia
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>> 
 On 10 April 2020 at 15:08 Alan C  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You guys are still fortunate. We are now in Total lockdown (Stay at 
>>> home) except for essential services until the end of April. Gardening it 
>>> will be.
>>> 
>>> https://www.cnbcafrica.com/coronavirus/2020/04/09/sa-extends-lockdown-by-two-weeks-until-end-april/
>>> 
>>> Alan C
>>> 
>>> On 10-Apr-20 01:23 AM, Brian W wrote:
 Looks like a pleasant area to walk around. A very good compilation of
 lockdown
 life.
 
 Unfortunately nothing quite as attractive with walking distance around 
 here.
 I've been reduced to photographing my dinner
 
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/cd3zuseh8v8z4td/_IGO7606-EM10-1x.jpg?dl=0
 
 
 Cheers
 Brian
 
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> On 10 April 2020 at 04:11 Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> 
> Some snaps from today’s state-endorsed early evening lockdown walk:
> 
> https://adobe.ly/3eaMdSE
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Re: PESO: Repatriation

[mike wilson]

> On 11 April 2020 at 08:00 David Mann  wrote:
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> 
> This was just a quick opportunistic grab shot.
> 
> It's a Lufthansa 747 chartered by the German government to repatriate their 
> citizens.  They've been running daily flights lately and a couple have done 
> flyovers of the city.  This one was a bit far away for a decent photo but I 
> happened to have the 400mm on, trying to photograph a bird (until one of the 
> neighbour's cats started climbing the tree).
> 
> This is a pretty severe crop.
> 
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1078/#peso

You can somewhat predict opportunity on this website.
https://www.flightradar24.com/-41.2,175.11/6

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Re: PESO: Repatriation

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 11.04.20 um 09:00 schrieb David Mann:


It's a Lufthansa 747 chartered by the German government to repatriate their 
citizens.


Photograph them while you can. Many European airlines are getting rid of
their 747 and A380, a move that has been planned long before the Corona
crisis. Too big, too much fuel consumption. The days of the 4-engine jet
are over.

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PESO: Repatriation

[David Mann]

This was just a quick opportunistic grab shot.

It's a Lufthansa 747 chartered by the German government to repatriate their 
citizens.  They've been running daily flights lately and a couple have done 
flyovers of the city.  This one was a bit far away for a decent photo but I 
happened to have the 400mm on, trying to photograph a bird (until one of the 
neighbour's cats started climbing the tree).

This is a pretty severe crop.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1078/#peso

Cheers,
Dave


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