Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

> On Jun 22, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 1:40 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> By the way having owned a Leica doesn't make you a member of an elite group 
>> except in your own mind.  Just don't tell that to your dentist.
> 
> That’s the only place I’m a member of an elite group anyways.

At your dentist's office? Odd.

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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[P. J. Alling]

Because it's nice looking.  Even though the viewfinder and rangefinder 
windows are too far apart, and the film winder is a pita to use and it 
doesn't feel all that great in the hand, it looks nice...


On 6/22/2021 5:47 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:



[…] It's not a particularly special camera from a collectors viewpoint, except 
it being a Leica, nor does it seem to be particularly desirable to use, so it's 
basically economically irreparable.

If I ever find where I stored it I'll probably put it on a shelf for display.

By the way having owned a Leica doesn't make you a member of an elite group 
except in your own mind.  […]

Then why put it on display?
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Re: PESOs Seeing Red

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Nice pose among other things.

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Many Cardinals this year. I’ve been careful to provide lots of sunflower seeds, 
and it appears they like the grub worms in my lawn as well.

https://www.photo.net/photo/18654405/Father-s-Day-Brunch

https://www.photo.net/photo/18654406/
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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[Larry Colen]

> On Jun 22, 2021, at 1:40 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> By the way having owned a Leica doesn't make you a member of an elite group 
> except in your own mind.  Just don't tell that to your dentist.

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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[Bob Pdml]

> […] It's not a particularly special camera from a collectors viewpoint, 
> except it being a Leica, nor does it seem to be particularly desirable to 
> use, so it's basically economically irreparable.
> 
> If I ever find where I stored it I'll probably put it on a shelf for display.
> 
> By the way having owned a Leica doesn't make you a member of an elite group 
> except in your own mind.  […]

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Re: PESOs Seeing Red

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Dan. I need to expand my horizons once I’ve healed. But in the meantime 
I can shoot birds from a chair.

Paul

> On Jun 22, 2021, at 12:59 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Both are fine images, but Father's Day Brunch is really special.
> You certainly have refined the necessary skills to create interesting and
> effective bird portraits.
> 
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> 
> 
>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 12:13 PM Paul Stenquist 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Many Cardinals this year. I’ve been careful to provide lots of sunflower
>> seeds, and it appears they like the grub worms in my lawn as well.
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18654405/Father-s-Day-Brunch
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18654406/
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Re: PESO 2021 - 087-088 - GDG

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It’d be easy in a darkroom, particularly with deep red safelights, but I 
haven’t had a darkroom in 30 years. Might be able to rig the bathroom as a 
temporary darkroom just to cut the paper down to size. 

Biggest problem is getting enough table space to do the cutting. Sealing the 
door isn’t hard. My kitchen counter is plenty of space, but the light tent 
makes it really slow going. There’s no way to seal up the kitchen.. open-plan 
condo. 

I’ve been looking into it. It’d be much easier if I could use my big roller 
cutter on a table in the bathroom. 

G

> On Jun 22, 2021, at 9:53 AM, John  wrote:
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>> I need to experiment with the paper some more. The simple thing to do would
>> be to get a cheap 4x5in field camera and some film holders, that would save
>> a huge amount of time in cutting down the paper sheets and fitting into the
>> fussy Mamiya Press 23 film holders. :)
> 
> Do you have to do that in total darkness like a mushroom or is this something 
> you can do in the darkroom with a safe-light on?
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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

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> On Jun 22, 2021, at 1:42 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 08:03:55PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
>> But now, I can claim to be a member of that elite group of photographers who 
>> have owned a Leica.  Woo Hoo!
> 
> I would ask when we could hope to see your photographs improve,
> but as a Leica owner you probably wouldn't deign to talk to
> those of us who only use other brands.
> (That's assuming you'd even actually use the thing)

I did actually shoot a couple of frames to make sure it worked, but I don’t 
think even the magic red dot could make a photograph of my living room be all 
that special.

On the subject of gripes, I briefly owned an FZ-50, which when it was stolen I 
replaced it with the K-100.  The FZ-50 had a wonderful user interface, handling 
more like an SLR than a point and shoot, but with the nifty features of the 
electronic viewfinder (like a live histogram).  After the FZ-50 they went back 
to the clunky PoS interface, and this being a tarted up FZ-200 suffers from 
that.


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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[John Francis]

On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 08:03:55PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
> But now, I can claim to be a member of that elite group of photographers who 
> have owned a Leica.  Woo Hoo!

I would ask when we could hope to see your photographs improve,
but as a Leica owner you probably wouldn't deign to talk to
those of us who only use other brands.
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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[P. J. Alling]

Somewhere I have a Leica IIIc, it was given to me by a non photographer 
friend on semi permanent loan.


I have two lenses for it, the collapsible 50mm and a Canon 35mm.

I found the camera to be ergonomically inferior to the Kodak Retna IIc, 
it's only actual advantage being that it's easier to interchange lenses.


I think I may have shot two whole rolls of film through the thing before 
the shutter jammed.


It's not a particularly special camera from a collectors viewpoint, 
except it being a Leica, nor does it seem to be particularly desirable 
to use, so it's basically economically irreparable.


If I ever find where I stored it I'll probably put it on a shelf for 
display.


By the way having owned a Leica doesn't make you a member of an elite 
group except in your own mind.  Just don't tell that to your dentist.


On 6/21/2021 11:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

So, I briefly owned a Leica, for Panasonic values of Leica.

I saw a friend last weekend who asked if I was interested in a broken Leica.  
My first thought was that it was some old film era Leica that no longer worked, 
but which might still have a usable lens. Long story short, it turns out it was 
a V-Lux4, aka a Lumix FZ-200 pimped out with a red dot.  It had been given to 
them, but when they turned it on they got some error message, they tried 
contacting Leica about getting it repaired and Leica said “It’s too old we 
don’t even touch those any more”.

My friend dropped it off, the error message was that the clock needed to be 
set, and there was some weirdness such that after I set the clock, I couldn’t 
leave that menu, but when I power cycled it, it powered up and worked fine. So 
I texted my friend that it seems to be fine, do they want it back, and it’s 
going home sometime in the next day or so.

But now, I can claim to be a member of that elite group of photographers who 
have owned a Leica.  Woo Hoo!


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Re: PESOs Seeing Red

[Daniel J. Matyola]

May the bluebird of happiness fly up your nose.
johnny Carson

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> In that case, they are very different from our bluebirds of discontent.
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Re: PESOs Seeing Red

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I agree. Cardinals aren’t particularly common, at least not here in Michigan. 
If you don’t try to attract them, they will be few and far between. Our 
bluejays are much more common. 

> On Jun 22, 2021, at 2:49 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Cardinals are special to we easterners too..  I would say your Stellers are 
> like our Eastern Bluejays in the sense you mean.  The brilliant color of the 
> Cardinals especially in winter as they hang around all year, catches eyes no 
> matter where they are. and their song and call are distinctive and pleasant 
> too.
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> On 6/22/2021 2:38 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> Very cool.  Nice photos.
>> 
>> I wonder if your cardinals are like our steller’s jays.  Very common 
>> locally, but cool and exotic for folks from outside the area.
>> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 9:13 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Many Cardinals this year. I’ve been careful to provide lots of sunflower 
>>> seeds, and it appears they like the grub worms in my lawn as well.
>>> 
>>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18654405/Father-s-Day-Brunch
>>> 
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Re: PESOs Seeing Red

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Don't forget our goldfinches (the state bird of New Jersey).
Here in Jersey, we love to give folks the bird.

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On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 2:49 PM ann sanfedele  wrote:

> Cardinals are special to we easterners too..  I would say your Stellers
> are like our Eastern Bluejays in the sense you mean.  The brilliant
> color of the Cardinals especially in winter as they hang around all
> year, catches eyes no matter where they are. and their song and call are
> distinctive and pleasant too.
>
> ann
>
>
> On 6/22/2021 2:38 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> > Very cool.  Nice photos.
> >
> > I wonder if your cardinals are like our steller’s jays.  Very common
> locally, but cool and exotic for folks from outside the area.
> >
> >> On Jun 22, 2021, at 9:13 AM, Paul Stenquist 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Many Cardinals this year. I’ve been careful to provide lots of
> sunflower seeds, and it appears they like the grub worms in my lawn as well.
> >>
> >> https://www.photo.net/photo/18654405/Father-s-Day-Brunch
> >>
> >> https://www.photo.net/photo/18654406/
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Re: PESOs Seeing Red

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> On Jun 22, 2021, at 11:49 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Cardinals are special to we easterners too..  I would say your Stellers are 
> like our Eastern Bluejays in the sense you mean.  The brilliant color of the 
> Cardinals especially in winter as they hang around all year, catches eyes no 
> matter where they are. and their song and call are distinctive and pleasant 
> too.

In that case, they are very different from our bluebirds of discontent.


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Re: PESOs Seeing Red

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Cardinals are special to we easterners too..  I would say your Stellers 
are like our Eastern Bluejays in the sense you mean.  The brilliant 
color of the Cardinals especially in winter as they hang around all 
year, catches eyes no matter where they are. and their song and call are 
distinctive and pleasant too.


ann


On 6/22/2021 2:38 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Very cool.  Nice photos.

I wonder if your cardinals are like our steller’s jays.  Very common locally, 
but cool and exotic for folks from outside the area.


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Many Cardinals this year. I’ve been careful to provide lots of sunflower seeds, 
and it appears they like the grub worms in my lawn as well.

https://www.photo.net/photo/18654405/Father-s-Day-Brunch

https://www.photo.net/photo/18654406/
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Re: PESOs Seeing Red

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Being a contrarian, I have a slight  preference for the second.. but 
both shots are lovely.


shooting birds (with a camera) from a chair is better than shooting fish 
in a barrel.  Glad they are coming to you while your

horizon's are limited.

ann

On 6/22/2021 1:35 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Thanks Dan. I need to expand my horizons once I’ve healed. But in the meantime 
I can shoot birds from a chair.

Paul


On Jun 22, 2021, at 12:59 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

Both are fine images, but Father's Day Brunch is really special.
You certainly have refined the necessary skills to create interesting and
effective bird portraits.

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Many Cardinals this year. I’ve been careful to provide lots of sunflower
seeds, and it appears they like the grub worms in my lawn as well.

https://www.photo.net/photo/18654405/Father-s-Day-Brunch

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Re: PESOs Seeing Red

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Very cool.  Nice photos.

I wonder if your cardinals are like our steller’s jays.  Very common locally, 
but cool and exotic for folks from outside the area.  

> On Jun 22, 2021, at 9:13 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Many Cardinals this year. I’ve been careful to provide lots of sunflower 
> seeds, and it appears they like the grub worms in my lawn as well.
> 
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18654405/Father-s-Day-Brunch
> 
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Re: PESOs Seeing Red

[Alan C]

Excellent images Paul especially the one on the ground. Your Cardinals 
look a lot like our Barbets but much more spectacular.


Alan C


On 22-Jun-21 07:35 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Thanks Dan. I need to expand my horizons once I’ve healed. But in the meantime 
I can shoot birds from a chair.

Paul


On Jun 22, 2021, at 12:59 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

Both are fine images, but Father's Day Brunch is really special.
You certainly have refined the necessary skills to create interesting and
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Many Cardinals this year. I’ve been careful to provide lots of sunflower
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https://www.photo.net/photo/18654405/Father-s-Day-Brunch

https://www.photo.net/photo/18654406/
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Re: PESOs Seeing Red

[Alan Cole]

Excellent images Paul especially the one on the ground. Your Cardinals look
a lot like our Barbets but much more spectacular.

Alan C




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> Many Cardinals this year. I’ve been careful to provide lots of sunflower
> seeds, and it appears they like the grub worms in my lawn as well.
>
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Re: PESO 2021 - 087-088 - GDG

[David J Brooks]

Interesting shots, the birdfeeder is definitely a halloween type photo

Dave

On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 11:17 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi 
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> My experiment with Ilford Harmann Direct Positive paper as a sheet film,
> first results:
>
> https://flic.kr/p/2m6URSN :: Birdhouse - Santa Clara 2021
> https://flic.kr/p/2m6TjF5 :: Locked Gate - Santa Clara 2021
>
> technical info:
> - Mamiya Press 23 Super, sheet film back
> - Sekor 65mm f/5.6 lens
> - Ilford Harmann Direct Positive paper in Ilford Multigrade developer
> - ISO 3 @ f/11 @ 1 second
> - scanned with Hasselblad 907x + Leitz Macro-Elmar 100mm f/4
>
> I like the feel of the results, but dang! it's one heck of a PITA process
> … Probably only an "once in a while" thing to do as a result.
>
> Enjoy!
> G
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Re: PESOs Seeing Red

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Both are fine images, but Father's Day Brunch is really special.
You certainly have refined the necessary skills to create interesting and
effective bird portraits.

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On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 12:13 PM Paul Stenquist 
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> Many Cardinals this year. I’ve been careful to provide lots of sunflower
> seeds, and it appears they like the grub worms in my lawn as well.
>
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18654405/Father-s-Day-Brunch
>
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18654406/
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Re: PESO 2021 - 087-088 - GDG

[John]

I need to experiment with the paper some more. The simple thing to do would
be to get a cheap 4x5in field camera and some film holders, that would save
a huge amount of time in cutting down the paper sheets and fitting into the
fussy Mamiya Press 23 film holders. :)


Do you have to do that in total darkness like a mushroom or is this something 
you can do in the darkroom with a safe-light on?



On 6/21/2021 13:00:37, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Interesting questions, Paul. Answering in reverse order:

POP or std - The paper requires standard development processing, you cannot 
just watch the image form as it is exposed to light (POP). The happy thing is 
that it works with standard paper development chemistry and processing 
techniques.

Contrast - The best I can answer is "I don't know." I've never used this paper 
before so have no experience with it in a darkroom situation using standard tray 
development. I estimated sensitivity at ISO 6, made exposures at ISO 6 and ISO 3 as a 
test. My paper developer was so far out of date (which I didn't know until I started 
mixing it) that I felt the results were going to fall way off the curve ... I mixed it up 
at 1:31 dilution and gave the paper 12 minutes of development time (standard would be 1:9 
or 1:14 @ ~2 minutes). The resulting paper image was very, very flat, with the ISO 3 
images showing more useable tonal scale. I could probably have gone to ISO 1.5 and 20 
minutes processing time with that defective soup.

With the Hasselblad's 907x/CFVII 50c sensor's great tonal depth, I was able to 
get a pretty decent range out of the originals that matched what I had in mind 
when making the exposures, but it was a bit more work than my usual film 
captures.

I need to experiment with the paper some more. The simple thing to do would be 
to get a cheap 4x5in field camera and some film holders, that would save a huge 
amount of time in cutting down the paper sheets and fitting into the fussy 
Mamiya Press 23 film holders. :)

G




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Re: PESO: Mustang

[John]

I think they're habituated to having people, vehicles & houses around, but 
they're not tame.


The original horses were abandoned on the Carolina coast around 500 years ago. I 
believe they came from shipwrecks along the coast & being left behind by failed 
colonization efforts.


On 6/21/2021 04:26:44, Alan C wrote:
I agree. Are the Mustangs "people" attuned? There is a forgotten village south 
of here (Kaapsehoop) where horses were simply left to fend for themselves when 
people abandoned their smallholdings. The place is mostly a tourist attraction 
nowadays. The horses are very tame. Enjoy your 4x4 adventures & the Mustangs.


Alan C

On 20-Jun-21 08:59 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Very nice shot.

It’s interesting the way that your crop included the metal marker, rather than 
cropping in tight on the horse or doing a faux pano to crop out the signage.  
It really shows that it is at the interface of settled and wild.



On Jun 20, 2021, at 7:05 AM, John  wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/51259954104

Spanish Mustang - one of the wild horses on North Carolina's Outer Banks. The 
horses are descended from horses dumped off ships that ran aground on the 
shoal waters around the North Carolina coast back during the age of 
exploration (1500s)


I went down there yesterday (Juneteenth) to get a season parking permit for 
the 4WD beach, because it's the only place in North Carolina I know where I 
can use the 4WD on my Jeep. I'm not crazy about off-roading, but I might need 
the skill if I ever get to make my photo safari to the Southwest U.S.


Plus, there are the wild horses to photograph.

And they seemed to be able to drag you away to the beach.




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PESOs Seeing Red

[Paul Stenquist]

Many Cardinals this year. I’ve been careful to provide lots of sunflower seeds, 
and it appears they like the grub worms in my lawn as well.

https://www.photo.net/photo/18654405/Father-s-Day-Brunch

https://www.photo.net/photo/18654406/
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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[Bill]

She liked you a lot too.

bill.

On Tue., Jun. 22, 2021, 8:26 a.m. ann sanfedele,  wrote:

> I can attest to that..
>
> ann
>
> On 6/21/2021 11:34 PM, Bill wrote:
> > I had a Leica for quite some time. Mine was a real dog.
> >
> > bill
> >
> > On Mon., Jun. 21, 2021, 9:04 p.m. Larry Colen,  wrote:
> >
> >> So, I briefly owned a Leica, for Panasonic values of Leica.
> >>
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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I inherited my father-in-law's Leica III (and his Speed Graphics 3 ¼ X 4
¼).  I used both for a few years before the digital era, but my Pentax 6X7
was a lot easier to use and gave comparable results.   I sold the Leica
several years ago, when I first started cleaning up and consolidating.
Anyone interested in the Speed Graphics?


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On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 2:54 AM Bob Pdml  wrote:

> Without the clock it could never have fired at the Decisive Moment, so
> well done for fixing it!
>
> > On 22 Jun 2021, at 04:04, Larry Colen  wrote:
> >
> > So, I briefly owned a Leica, for Panasonic values of Leica.
> >
> > I saw a friend last weekend who asked if I was interested in a broken
> Leica.  My first thought was that it was some old film era Leica that no
> longer worked, but which might still have a usable lens. Long story short,
> it turns out it was a V-Lux4, aka a Lumix FZ-200 pimped out with a red
> dot.  It had been given to them, but when they turned it on they got some
> error message, they tried contacting Leica about getting it repaired and
> Leica said “It’s too old we don’t even touch those any more”.
> >
> > My friend dropped it off, the error message was that the clock needed to
> be set, and there was some weirdness such that after I set the clock, I
> couldn’t leave that menu, but when I power cycled it, it powered up and
> worked fine. So I texted my friend that it seems to be fine, do they want
> it back, and it’s going home sometime in the next day or so.
> >
> > But now, I can claim to be a member of that elite group of photographers
> who have owned a Leica.  Woo Hoo!
> >
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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[Paul Stenquist]

I still have my 1953 Leica iiif RD and three thread mount lenses, including the 
Summicron 50/2. I load up a roll of film every couple of years. I’m due!

Paul

> On Jun 22, 2021, at 10:27 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I can attest to that..
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 6/21/2021 11:34 PM, Bill wrote:
>> I had a Leica for quite some time. Mine was a real dog.
>> 
>> bill
>> 
>>> On Mon., Jun. 21, 2021, 9:04 p.m. Larry Colen,  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, I briefly owned a Leica, for Panasonic values of Leica.
>>> 
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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[ann sanfedele]

I can attest to that..

ann

On 6/21/2021 11:34 PM, Bill wrote:

I had a Leica for quite some time. Mine was a real dog.

bill

On Mon., Jun. 21, 2021, 9:04 p.m. Larry Colen,  wrote:


So, I briefly owned a Leica, for Panasonic values of Leica.


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Re: PESO 2021 - 087-088 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

So … 

"Orthochromatic"? Yes.

"…a feel for where sensitivity peaks on the spectral curve…" Um, not really. 
I've made four exposures with it so far, and processed it in a damaged mixture 
of over-age developer. I got two exposures that I kinda like. :)

It's fun, but the old Mamiya Press 23 is truly a lot of work to shoot it with. 
I haven't decided where to go with this spur off my usual photography yet. 

G


> On Jun 21, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Ralf.
> 
> -p
> 
> On 6/21/2021 4:22 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
>> Am 21.06.21 um 23:14 schrieb Paul Sorenson:
>>> Thanks.  A couple more questions, just to salve my curiosity.  Is the
>>> emulsion panchromatic or orthochromatic?  Do you have a feel for where
>>> its sensitivity peaks on the spectral curve?
>> 
>> There's a very detailed datasheet, with curves and all, available here:
>> 
>> https://www.ilfordphoto.com/harman-direct-positive-paper-sheets
>> 
>> Ralf
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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[Bob Pdml]

Without the clock it could never have fired at the Decisive Moment, so well 
done for fixing it!

> On 22 Jun 2021, at 04:04, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> So, I briefly owned a Leica, for Panasonic values of Leica.
> 
> I saw a friend last weekend who asked if I was interested in a broken Leica.  
> My first thought was that it was some old film era Leica that no longer 
> worked, but which might still have a usable lens. Long story short, it turns 
> out it was a V-Lux4, aka a Lumix FZ-200 pimped out with a red dot.  It had 
> been given to them, but when they turned it on they got some error message, 
> they tried contacting Leica about getting it repaired and Leica said “It’s 
> too old we don’t even touch those any more”.
> 
> My friend dropped it off, the error message was that the clock needed to be 
> set, and there was some weirdness such that after I set the clock, I couldn’t 
> leave that menu, but when I power cycled it, it powered up and worked fine. 
> So I texted my friend that it seems to be fine, do they want it back, and 
> it’s going home sometime in the next day or so.
> 
> But now, I can claim to be a member of that elite group of photographers who 
> have owned a Leica.  Woo Hoo!
> 
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