Re: ADVICE PLEASE (WRAP UP?)
Thanks Larry. Interesting Eagles. There are a couple of Pitts here. Some other very fast flashy looking jobs too! I'll need to get a programme to find out what they all are. I'll get it right over the next couple of days. Probably the last chance I'll get of seeing something like this. Ellies are much easier! Alan C On 18-Aug-21 06:54 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Aug 17, 2021, at 9:20 PM, Alan C wrote: Thanks all. This image pretty well sums it up. And some stunt planes: https://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157705985048831/ The planes are just too distant - too small - out of range. A bit like trying to photograph an eagle in flight at 300m! There’s a really good chance that they are eagles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviat_Eagle I used TAV 1000sec, f8 exclusively. Tried single, 5 point & 11 point focusing. I started by focusing on the moon. In all auto focus modes the camera just couldn't lock on to the planes. There was no lens creep. Didn't try panning. Yeah, sounds like you need to go full manual to get a chance at focus. If it was easy, anybody could do it. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ADVICE PLEASE (WRAP UP?)
> On Aug 17, 2021, at 9:20 PM, Alan C wrote: > > Thanks all. This image pretty well sums it up. > > And some stunt planes: > https://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157705985048831/ > > The planes are just too distant - too small - out of range. A bit like trying > to photograph an eagle in flight at 300m! There’s a really good chance that they are eagles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviat_Eagle > > I used TAV 1000sec, f8 exclusively. Tried single, 5 point & 11 point > focusing. I started by focusing on the moon. In all auto focus modes the > camera just couldn't lock on to the planes. There was no lens creep. Didn't > try panning. Yeah, sounds like you need to go full manual to get a chance at focus. If it was easy, anybody could do it. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ADVICE PLEASE (WRAP UP?)
Thanks all. This image pretty well sums it up. And some stunt planes: https://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157705985048831/ The planes are just too distant - too small - out of range. A bit like trying to photograph an eagle in flight at 300m! I used TAV 1000sec, f8 exclusively. Tried single, 5 point & 11 point focusing. I started by focusing on the moon. In all auto focus modes the camera just couldn't lock on to the planes. There was no lens creep. Didn't try panning. Today is the first day of the 4 day competition. Yesterday was official practice but spectators could not actually get access to the airfield. From today, limited access will be possible subject to Covid restrictions. There is a large rooftop area above the terminal which would will be perfect, otherwise I'll just have to find a suitable place. Alan C -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mafia Nuns
Ya think ? -Original Message- From: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Sent: Aug 16, 2021 3:09 PM To: Subject: Re: Mafia Nuns It's becoming an acrimonious political discussion. On 8/13/2021 14:32:17, Bob Pdml wrote: > Will be the title of my first movie. There was one today in the cafe where I > do my Greek homework. > > Shot with my iPhone on massive digital zoom, and BWed in LR. > > https://adobe.ly/37IoKX0 > > > > -- -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Ken Waller -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mafia Nuns
Yeah, he couldnt kick the habit -Original Message- From: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Sent: Aug 14, 2021 12:14 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Mafia Nuns Hes nun the wiser > On 14 Aug 2021, at 16:44, ann sanfedele wrote: > > SO you never knew the REAL reason LUther left the church... :-) > > a > >> On 8/14/2021 10:14 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> I guess we Lutherans have a more benign image of nuns. >> >> Dan Matyola >> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery >> * >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 3:47 PM Bob Pdml wrote: >> On 13 Aug 2021, at 19:51, Daniel J. Matyola >>> wrote: Nice image, Bob. Somehow, the excessive light coming through the windows creates a >>> powerful effect, as well as highlighting the face of your subject. Why "Mafia"? What am I missing? >>> I always think nuns look like mafiosi, and I went to a Christian Brothers >>> school, where some of them behaved like it too. >>> >>> >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > ann sanfedele photography > https://annsan.smugmug.com > https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts > https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan > https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Ken Waller -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mafia Nuns
-Original Message- From: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Sent: Aug 13, 2021 3:46 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Mafia Nuns > On 13 Aug 2021, at 19:51, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > Nice image, Bob. > > Somehow, the excessive light coming through the windows creates a powerful > effect, as well as highlighting the face of your subject. > > Why "Mafia"? What am I missing? I always think nuns look like mafiosi, and I went to a Christian Brothers school, where some of them behaved like it too. That explains a lot ! > >> On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 2:32 PM Bob Pdml wrote: >> >> Will be the title of my first movie. There was one today in the cafe where >> I do my Greek homework. >> >> Shot with my iPhone on massive digital zoom, and BWed in LR. >> >> https://adobe.ly/37IoKX0 >> >> -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Ken Waller -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Loon Family
These loons were frequent visitors to the cove our cottage was on. I took this on the fifth day of our two-week stay; by the end the chick was much larger, and was sporting a white breast, and speckled white-and-black head and body feathers. By late September it will probably follow its parents to a wintering ground off the East coast. https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2021/August-2021/New-Hampshire/i-fCnjgpj/A Comments always appreciated! (K-5, SMC FA 80-320) Rick -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ADVICE PLEASE
You may have to move your viewpoint of the camera along with the traject of the plane (as I usually do with birds and dragonflies) Henk Op 2021-08-17 om 19:41 schreef Alan C: The South African Aerobatic Championships is currently on in Phalaborwa with plenty of Photographic opportunities. I've tried everything but just don't seem to be able to focus on fast moving aircraft at height. I get close with MF but AF.S AF.C are hopeless. Perhaps someone can enlighten me? Perhaps screw drive is too slow? I've tried the K5 with the HD 55-300 @ 300mm & the Sigma 170-500 DG @ 500mm. I can focus just fine on the quarter moon! The Airfield is less than 1Km from my house! About 40 planes are taking part. The last event like this in Phalaborwa was about 25years ago so this is quite something. Of course there are several wet blankets complaining about the noise. Alan C -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ADVICE PLEASE
Yep, Moffett Field air show - pretty sure they were Phantoms……. On 17 Aug 2021, at 21:28, Larry Colen wrote: I think I remember seeing them at Moffett during that era, but it didn’t register that they were F4s. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ADVICE PLEASE
I only ever use manual focus for these kinds of subjects and shooting situations. I pick the framed field I want to catch the car or plane in, find something static to set the focus, and then just follow and frame until the subject hits my "release the shutter" mark, which depends on the particular cameras response time. It just takes some practice. :) G > On Aug 17, 2021, at 10:41 AM, Alan C wrote: > > The South African Aerobatic Championships is currently on in Phalaborwa with > plenty of Photographic opportunities. I've tried everything but just don't > seem to be able to focus on fast moving aircraft at height. I get close with > MF but AF.S AF.C are hopeless. Perhaps someone can enlighten me? Perhaps > screw drive is too slow? I've tried the K5 with the HD 55-300 @ 300mm & the > Sigma 170-500 DG @ 500mm. I can focus just fine on the quarter moon! > > The Airfield is less than 1Km from my house! About 40 planes are taking part. > The last event like this in Phalaborwa was about 25years ago so this is quite > something. Of course there are several wet blankets complaining about the > noise. > > > Alan C -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ADVICE PLEASE
> On Aug 17, 2021, at 1:25 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > Remember when they were F4 Phantoms? ;-) I think I remember seeing them at Moffett during that era, but it didn’t register that they were F4s. > > > On 17 Aug 2021, at 21:17, Larry Colen wrote: > > It looks like I’d shoot at f/8 and either 1/800 or 1/1000 in TAv mode when > they were close, using a K-3 and Sigma 50-500: > https://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157677323484307/ > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ADVICE PLEASE
Remember when they were F4 Phantoms? ;-) On 17 Aug 2021, at 21:17, Larry Colen wrote: It looks like I’d shoot at f/8 and either 1/800 or 1/1000 in TAv mode when they were close, using a K-3 and Sigma 50-500: https://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157677323484307/ -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ADVICE PLEASE
> On Aug 17, 2021, at 12:39 PM, John Francis wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 07:41:12PM +0200, Alan C wrote: >> The South African Aerobatic Championships is currently on in Phalaborwa with >> plenty of Photographic opportunities. I've tried everything but just don't >> seem to be able to focus on fast moving aircraft at height. I get close with >> MF but AF.S?? AF.C are hopeless. Perhaps someone can enlighten me? Perhaps >> screw drive is too slow? I've tried the K5 with the HD 55-300 @ 300mm & the >> Sigma 170-500 DG @ 500mm. I can focus just fine on the quarter moon! > > Are you sure it's focus that is your problem? A plane flying at 250mph > (which is what the faster aerobatic planes seem to be capable of) will > move over a foot in 1/250 of a second - more than enough to blur the shot. > If you haven't had a lot of practice panning to keep your target relatively > stationary in the viewfinder you're going to see quite a few fuzzy shots. That’s a very good point. I would suggest shooting in TAv and really cranking up the shutter speed. If that makes the blur go away, you can drop the shutter speed to recover a bit of noise and dynamic range. By the same token, maybe not shoot wide open to get a bit more depth of field. I had forgotten about my attempts a couple of years ago Looking at some photos from a couple of years ago, the blue angels were practicing for the Salinas airshow and the pot farm I was working at was pretty much directly under their flight path, so when they were practicing I’d take a break and grab some photos. It looks like I’d shoot at f/8 and either 1/800 or 1/1000 in TAv mode when they were close, using a K-3 and Sigma 50-500: https://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157677323484307/ Also a DeHaviland Vampire: https://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157704200196382/ And some stunt planes: https://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157705985048831/ > > While you can elimnate much of the motion with higher shutter speeds you > then end up with shots that look strange because the propellers appear to > be almost stationary (e.g. http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/FatAlbert.jpg) > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ADVICE PLEASE
Am 17.08.21 um 19:41 schrieb Alan C: I've tried everything but just don't seem to be able to focus on fast moving aircraft at height. I get close with MF but AF.S AF.C are hopeless. Could it be that you're pointing the camera upwards and your lens is creeping out of focus? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ADVICE PLEASE
On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 07:41:12PM +0200, Alan C wrote: > The South African Aerobatic Championships is currently on in Phalaborwa with > plenty of Photographic opportunities. I've tried everything but just don't > seem to be able to focus on fast moving aircraft at height. I get close with > MF but AF.S?? AF.C are hopeless. Perhaps someone can enlighten me? Perhaps > screw drive is too slow? I've tried the K5 with the HD 55-300 @ 300mm & the > Sigma 170-500 DG @ 500mm. I can focus just fine on the quarter moon! Are you sure it's focus that is your problem? A plane flying at 250mph (which is what the faster aerobatic planes seem to be capable of) will move over a foot in 1/250 of a second - more than enough to blur the shot. If you haven't had a lot of practice panning to keep your target relatively stationary in the viewfinder you're going to see quite a few fuzzy shots. While you can elimnate much of the motion with higher shutter speeds you then end up with shots that look strange because the propellers appear to be almost stationary (e.g. http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/FatAlbert.jpg) -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ADVICE PLEASE
Maybe those planes get closer than one would expect... maybe that is why the wet blankets are complaining :-) OK, on a serious note what Bob said makes sense to me.. and easier ann On 8/17/2021 2:50 PM, Bob Pdml wrote: Surely the planes are at infinity or beyond? So why focus at all? Choose your focal length and aperture, set it manually to infinity focus, or the hyperfocal distance, and leave it. Or am I missing something? On 17 Aug 2021, at 19:12, Larry Colen wrote: I have never found a single solution that works all of the time. I would try A-9 AF-S set up in the center, also manual. I agree with Godfrey’s suggestion of planning ahead. Pre-focus so that things are close to in focus, wait until the subject is close to in focus and within the 9 selected points. On Aug 17, 2021, at 10:41 AM, Alan C wrote: The South African Aerobatic Championships is currently on in Phalaborwa with plenty of Photographic opportunities. I've tried everything but just don't seem to be able to focus on fast moving aircraft at height. I get close with MF but AF.S AF.C are hopeless. Perhaps someone can enlighten me? Perhaps screw drive is too slow? I've tried the K5 with the HD 55-300 @ 300mm & the Sigma 170-500 DG @ 500mm. I can focus just fine on the quarter moon! The Airfield is less than 1Km from my house! About 40 planes are taking part. The last event like this in Phalaborwa was about 25years ago so this is quite something. Of course there are several wet blankets complaining about the noise. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ADVICE PLEASE
Surely the planes are at infinity or beyond? So why focus at all? Choose your focal length and aperture, set it manually to infinity focus, or the hyperfocal distance, and leave it. Or am I missing something? > On 17 Aug 2021, at 19:12, Larry Colen wrote: > > I have never found a single solution that works all of the time. I would > try A-9 AF-S set up in the center, also manual. I agree with Godfrey’s > suggestion of planning ahead. Pre-focus so that things are close to in focus, > wait until the subject is close to in focus and within the 9 selected points. > >> On Aug 17, 2021, at 10:41 AM, Alan C wrote: >> >> The South African Aerobatic Championships is currently on in Phalaborwa with >> plenty of Photographic opportunities. I've tried everything but just don't >> seem to be able to focus on fast moving aircraft at height. I get close with >> MF but AF.S AF.C are hopeless. Perhaps someone can enlighten me? Perhaps >> screw drive is too slow? I've tried the K5 with the HD 55-300 @ 300mm & the >> Sigma 170-500 DG @ 500mm. I can focus just fine on the quarter moon! >> >> The Airfield is less than 1Km from my house! About 40 planes are taking >> part. The last event like this in Phalaborwa was about 25years ago so this >> is quite something. Of course there are several wet blankets complaining >> about the noise. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ADVICE PLEASE
I have never found a single solution that works all of the time. I would try A-9 AF-S set up in the center, also manual. I agree with Godfrey’s suggestion of planning ahead. Pre-focus so that things are close to in focus, wait until the subject is close to in focus and within the 9 selected points. > On Aug 17, 2021, at 10:41 AM, Alan C wrote: > > The South African Aerobatic Championships is currently on in Phalaborwa with > plenty of Photographic opportunities. I've tried everything but just don't > seem to be able to focus on fast moving aircraft at height. I get close with > MF but AF.S AF.C are hopeless. Perhaps someone can enlighten me? Perhaps > screw drive is too slow? I've tried the K5 with the HD 55-300 @ 300mm & the > Sigma 170-500 DG @ 500mm. I can focus just fine on the quarter moon! > > The Airfield is less than 1Km from my house! About 40 planes are taking part. > The last event like this in Phalaborwa was about 25years ago so this is quite > something. Of course there are several wet blankets complaining about the > noise. > > > Alan C > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
ADVICE PLEASE
The South African Aerobatic Championships is currently on in Phalaborwa with plenty of Photographic opportunities. I've tried everything but just don't seem to be able to focus on fast moving aircraft at height. I get close with MF but AF.S AF.C are hopeless. Perhaps someone can enlighten me? Perhaps screw drive is too slow? I've tried the K5 with the HD 55-300 @ 300mm & the Sigma 170-500 DG @ 500mm. I can focus just fine on the quarter moon! The Airfield is less than 1Km from my house! About 40 planes are taking part. The last event like this in Phalaborwa was about 25years ago so this is quite something. Of course there are several wet blankets complaining about the noise. Alan C -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
