Re: Where are you located? (Lurkers also welcome to reply.)
Adelaide, SA, Australia here. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FSF teaser
From: Larry Colen Paul Stenquist wrote: Does it cover full frame? It is supposed to. That is why I bought it. I forget which page I looked on. But doing a quick google shows several positive results: http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/10/compatibility-of-da-lenses-on-full.html According to dpreview (FWIW) the DA* 55mm F1.4 works in full frame when stopped-down. It doesn't say how much, but according to them "Ricoh has published a list of those lenses that will produce relatively useable results in full frame mode, if the aperture is stopped down.", so I suppose its official, though I couldn't find the ricoh source with a quick search. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-1 I'd be holding on to the FA50/1.4 myself, for now. The DA55 is my favourite lens on APS/C, but if it winds up being an F2 or F2.8, then... meh. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Extremely disappointed: K-1 does not appear to work with ...
From: Mark C The only issue with a wireless release is lack of a bulb setting. AFAIK, you need a cabled release for that. Too bad the K1 does not have T as well as B shutter mode. Bulb mode with IR remote works fine for me on the K3, and as far as I recall worked fine with previous cameras too. I do find setting CF7 (Bulb Mode) to be 'Mode2' (press-start / press-stop) rather than 'Mode1' (press-and-hold) to be somewhat more practical with the IR remote, but it does work in either. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New iMac 5K: M380 vs. M390 graphics
One advantage of the newer iMacs is that they can be used as displays when they obsolete out. This is no longer true, unfortunately. "Note: iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2014) and later iMac models can't be used as Target Display Mode displays." https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204592 Probably for the same reasons Apple can't make a 5k retina monitor for use with MacBook Pros... Thunderbolt 2 doesn't have enough bandwidth to do it. You'll need Thunderbolt 3 on both computer and monitor for it. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Elections and Politics and Guns and Religion
You guys and your elections, how inefficient. We don't even bother with that stuff to change PMs these days :) - Peter -Original Message- From: knarf Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 2:01 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT - Elections and Politics and Guns and Religion Okay, now that I got your attention, it's really a post about elections. We in the Great White North just had one. It was the longest election campaign in our country's history: three months. The news guys declared the winner about 6 minutes after the polls closed, and declared a majority government an hour after polls closed. Living in Canada has its advantages. Cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6172 / Virus Database: 4447/10853 - Release Date: 10/19/15 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Picked up a second-hand Pentax
Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >I've often been tempted by the K-01 mated with an FA43 and DA21, it would >be an ideal little kit. Yes, the 43 Ltd also works very nicely. My K-01 is the black/silver one and the silver Limited lens looks very good on it. The focal length is just a wee bit longer than I like for general shooting. Mike Johnston has predicted that the K-01 will become a collector's item and I think he may be right about that. I picked up one of these new some years back, when they were at the end of their lifecycle and Pentax Australia (CR Kennedy) was clearing their last stock out. I think it was A$250, including the 40mm DA XS pancake. Not a great lens by any measure, but it was all so ridiculously cheap for that much camera, I didn't really even consider the lens to be costing anything. Hell, even the fact they use the same battery as the K-5 and on which I've used as yet-another-spare makes it even cheaper :) Its real downside, as already mentioned, is its terrible buffer. From memory, in raw it's only one frame? I can't say I use it a whole lot, but I don't think I'll ever get rid of it either. It's just too unique. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?
So - do you use it? Nope. Never except to test, as with you. never had any problem, nor have I with the K-5IIs. - Peter -Original Message- From: Mark C Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 12:47 PM To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator? When the K-3 came out once feature that contributed to the press coverage was the Anti Alias filter simulator. So after more than a year with the K-3 I can say that I only turned the AA simulator on once, to see what it would do. On my camera, it does make a distinct sound during exposures when enabled... Otherwise I have never used it, but I really don't shoot many images where there is fabric or other things that might kick off moire' patterns. So - do you use it? Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5645 / Virus Database: 4281/9064 - Release Date: 02/05/15 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - RIP Phillip Hughes
Very sad indeed, I've enjoyed watching him play for SA the last few seasons. Not only a talented player, but a great leader at a young age. He will be missed on and off the field. Nicely captured image, good to see it again. Love, Light and Peace, - Peter Loveday -Original Message- From: Brian Walters Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 7:35 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - RIP Phillip Hughes The name wont mean a lot unless you're a cricket lover but, if you are you'll be aware that a fine young cricketer was seriously injured when hit on the back of the head during a match on Tuesday and died today without regaining consciousness. It was a freak event with a tragic outcome. My wife and I were privileged to witness Phillip's maiden first-class century at the Sydney Cricket Ground a few years ago. We are both devastated by what has occurred. I PESOed this image a few years ago so I hope you'll indulge me if I do so again. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/66734.html http://tinyurl.com/oq9ezwb Further details here: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/australian-cricketer-phillip-hughes-dead-at-25-20141127-11vd48.html -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Has anyone been using the yongnuo 560-III and the TX controller?
Yep. I have these. They work as advertised really, well worth their ridiculously cheap price. The 560TX isn't my favourite form-factor for on camera. I tend to use a 603ii on camera and a 560tx handheld to set power levels. Anything specific you'd like to know? - Peter -Original Message- From: Larry Colen Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 10:32 AM To: Pentax-Discuss List Subject: Has anyone been using the yongnuo 560-III and the TX controller? I was poking around, and the 560-III always looked pretty good for the price, and with the new wireless controller, they seem to be a really nice setup, even for a lot more money than they charge. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4189/8498 - Release Date: 11/02/14 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FF daydreaming
On 9/17/2014 3:43 PM, JC OConnell wrote: I was daydreaming today about the possible upcoming Pentax FF DSLR and it got me thinking about the lensmount. Since the FF body will initially be relying heavily on legacy, not current lenses, would Pentax dare to uncripple the mount and bring back the aperture cam sensor so that K and M lenses could meter and do autoexposure? That would be icing on the cake and make the camera irresistible for me. Daydream on like Pentax's soul the aperture simulator is lost forever. Not only that. I expect the mechanical aperture lever to go away eventually and be replaced by all-electronic aperture stop-down. Probably with some backwards compatibility at first. Yes, indeed. If anything we may see less compatibility with the (mythical?) FF line than we have with APS/C. Ricoh may see this as an opportunity to modernize and make a clean(ish) break. A good number of DA lenses will already be unusable (without some auto-crop), and it's really anyone's guess how well legacy K glass will perform. Much of it has been less-than-stellar on APS/C, and FF would potentially be somewhat worse. I'm not suggesting all lenses will instantly be incompatible, but I would be *very* surprised if they took the mount backwards and not forwards. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FF daydreaming
On 9/17/2014 7:36 PM, Peter Loveday wrote: On 9/17/2014 3:43 PM, JC OConnell wrote: I was daydreaming today about the possible upcoming Pentax FF DSLR and it got me thinking about the lensmount. Since the FF body will initially be relying heavily on legacy, not current lenses, would Pentax dare to uncripple the mount and bring back the aperture cam sensor so that K and M lenses could meter and do autoexposure? That would be icing on the cake and make the camera irresistible for me. Daydream on like Pentax's soul the aperture simulator is lost forever. Not only that. I expect the mechanical aperture lever to go away eventually and be replaced by all-electronic aperture stop-down. Probably with some backwards compatibility at first. Yes, indeed. If anything we may see less compatibility with the (mythical?) FF line than we have with APS/C. Ricoh may see this as an opportunity to modernize and make a clean(ish) break. A good number of DA lenses will already be unusable (without some auto-crop), and it's really anyone's guess how well legacy K glass will perform. Much of it has been less-than-stellar on APS/C, and FF would potentially be somewhat worse. I'm not suggesting all lenses will instantly be incompatible, but I would be *very* surprised if they took the mount backwards and not forwards. But really Ricoh can't afford to alienate the Pentax user base. if they build a Full Frame DSLR that doesn't at least have as much backward compatibility as the current APS-C cameras why would I or any of us for that matter, really care if they build one. Because it says Pentax on the prism? Please. Asahi Optical Company is dead and gone. My loyalty to the Pentax brand lasts as long as they support my lenses. Once they stop doing that, I might as well buy a Sony A7, if I want full frame. Well, as I did say, I don't expect them to be incompatible right away. What I think is more likely is progressive modernising of the mount, not progressively taking it back to old mechanical linkages. Hypothetically we may see electronic stopdown capability, then new full frame lenses that require that. Future bodies may or may not drop the mechanical coupling, but it is certainly possible we'll start seeing lens/body combos that just don't work together so well. Much like when they introduced lenses with no aperture ring. Anyway, it's all guesswork, but I agree they won't completely change mount unless they are crazy. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FF daydreaming
A good number of DA lenses will already be unusable (without some auto-crop), and it's really anyone's guess how well legacy K glass will perform. Much of it has been less-than-stellar on APS/C, and FF would potentially be somewhat worse. That depends. A 24-megapixel FF would have significantly lower pixel pitch than a 24MP APS-C sensor – even a 36MP FF has slightly lower pixel pitch – so both should theoretically be less lens-critical than 24MP APS-C. That's true Mark, but I would also expect the increased angle of light caused by the FF circle to be a significant issue with lenses not designed for digital? I may be wrong though. I guess it's not difficult to see how that's worked out for Nikon FF with older lenses, it's unlikely to be significantly different. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Q-S1 Officially released
Looks to be a Q7 in the (much nicer) Q body, almost. I'm sure there some other changes, but I'm not sure what. I must admit, I love the original Q, but never really warmed to the subsequent ones.The Q-S1 looks pretty nice to me. - Peter -Original Message- From: Brian Walters Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 8:47 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Pentax Q-S1 Officially released The rumours were true... http://www.photographyblog.com/news/pentax_q_s1/ I'm not sure how it differs from the previous Q7. Also officially released is the DA645 28-45mm F4.5 for the 645Z. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7977 - Release Date: 08/04/14 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The local store had a K3 on display
*almost* -Original Message- From: Larry Colen Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:53 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: The local store had a K3 on display After playing with it for a few minutes, I can’t say anything about it’s performance, but it does seem like they did a good job on improving the button layout on the back. Several of the buttons that I’d hit by mistake seem to be moved to less obnoxious spots. Just on that basis alone it would almost be worth getting a job just to be able to buy one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4714 / Virus Database: 3986/7746 - Release Date: 06/26/14 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adafruit display review
Yeah I got one of these some time back. Kind of fun as a third monitor, but Windows 7 has no support for different DPI settings on different monitors, which makes it tricky to reconcile with the 27. I'm not entirely keen to update the desktop to 8.1, which does do that. (though I use that on my laptop). But for a dedicated image display, or whatever, it works quite well. Larry, do you have any trouble with displayport losing connection, or interference lines across the monitor like a bad connection occasionally? I'm not sure that I don't have a fault in mine :-/ - Peter -Original Message- From: Larry Colen Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 8:25 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List ; Larry Colen Subject: Adafruit display review 1) It comes as a kit. I suspect that this is an end run around Intel thunderbolt licensing and certification. 2) No instructions in the box. product: https://www.adafruit.com/products/1652 Led to a tutorial: https://learn.adafruit.com/qualia-high-res-displayport-desktop-monitor Which didn’t say anything particularly useful, but had a very subtle link at the bottom titled Assembly that looks like it’s part of a clip from an apple page. Which links to the actual instructions for assembly. 3) They use flat blade screws. WTF? Why not phillips like every civilized product? They are 4-40 so I could replace them with real screws. The ruler is to tell the different lengths of screws apart. But, the 2-56 screws are phillips, not slotted. —— Overall the assembly went fairly well. The directions were pretty good. I should have read through all of the way before starting. They don’t mention needing both flat and phillips screwdrivers. I think that they’ve substituted steel for nylon screws, which is a good thing. It would be nice if there were an easy to print out version of the instructions. I ran into a couple of issues with the monitor. The first was entirely my fault in that I had USB 2 devices, like keyboard and mouse, plugged into the display, and when I unplugged my thunderbolt display, I lost mouse and keyboard, and couldn’t figure out why. The other problem, which is something that I had forgotten about is that you cannot daisy chain the monitors, so my hopes of having three monitors at home have been dashed. I’ve heard rumors of daisy chaining monitor, drive, monitor working to get multiple monitors, but I don’t have a thunderbolt drive to test with. $ Overall the quality of the display is very nice. It’s definitely smaller than I’d like for doing real work, but it should be enough to do the important work of copying files off my SD card onto a hard drive. One nit of personal preference, is that I’d rather the display bezel were a matte finish rather than glossy. If they ever make this with a 15” display it’d be damn near a must have. We just did a quick test on a macbook pro as a second monitor, and it works just fine, though it’s damn small. I suspect that if I were doing photo editing on a laptop, I’d want it for holding menus and such. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adafruit display review
It’d be awesome if I could use it as an external display for my camera when doing studio work. Would need an HDMI-DisplayPort for that, which is not so cheap sadly. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pilot error
Heh. One of the many reasons I set my cameras to take all the bracketed shots with a single press these days... - Peter -Original Message- From: Larry Colen Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 9:29 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Pilot error In today’s episode of pilot error theater… Leaving the Kx in bracket exposure mode the last time I used it and wondering why the exposure is so irregularly wonky and every so often the shutter will stick open for so long. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4570 / Virus Database: 3931/7440 - Release Date: 05/04/14 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Keep the PEFs?
Not only skills, but software too. Certainly Lightroom (/ACR) has seen some major improvements to its demosaicing and noise reduction over the years, and I'm sure other software likewise. Even given the same settings and skill level, one can get a much better result re-processing a raw file now than 5 or 10 years ago. - Peter -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 6:27 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Keep the PEFs? I figure my rendering skills are always improving, so I hang onto the RAWs. Just the other day I wanted to print a picture of my dog who had passed away. I went back to a 2004 shot I had produced with the *istD. I looked at the tiff and felt that it left something to be desired. Went back and did a new conversion. The result was a much nicer photo. Paul On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Yep. At that point I consider the tiffs as my negative - I don't need to go back and convert the RAW again. -Original Message- From: Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com Subject: Re: Keep the PEFs? On Mar 14, 2014, at 23:16 , Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: 1. Should I convert all the old PEF files to DNG? If you're keeping the RAW files I'd say yes. After a time period after RAW file conversion I generall delete the RAW files. Wow! To my mind, this is like: After a time period after making prints from my negatives, I generally throw away the negatives. Really? -Charles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4354 / Virus Database: 3722/7241 - Release Date: 03/24/14 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: metz question
The new Vivitar Corporation sells brandy new 285HV flash units so they have new parts as well. Sadly the wiring is probably as cheep as possible, but then again I expect the same is true of the TT560 as both units are made in China, land of the Cut Corners. I find both the yonguo and the MPEX dumb strobes quite intriguing. 285HVs just aren't that interesting any more, there are so many good options out there. The YN560iii flashes would be better if yongnuo would get around to releasing the (now 6 months late) YN560TX. But currently, I'm really liking my Godox V850s (which are nice and cheap) and AD360s (not so much). It really is so nice to not have AAs in them anymore. And of course, remote power control... - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Camera Bags
The ThinkTank Retrospective series are worth a look. http://www.thinktankphoto.com/categories/shoulder-bags/retrospective.aspx I quite like the look of the pinestone ones, That's what I generally use for a smaller kit. (my poor Domke F2 doesn't really get much use nowadays...). But camera bags tend to be very much a matter of personal taste, I find. - Peter -Original Message- From: Bill Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 11:28 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT: Camera Bags I find myself in the market for a smallish camera bag. Said bag should carry a Fuji X-T1 (this is about the same size as a Pentax MX) with a lens mounted, and 3, perhaps 4 more lenses. The Fuji lenses aren't gargantuan, but they are not all that petite, either. The 14 and 35 are along the size of the 77Ltd, the 23 is about the same as the 31Ltd, the 56 appears to be about the same size as the DA*55/1.4, with the 60 Macro being slightly smaller. I think I would like a more classic looking bag for this stuff. Anyway, I am open to suggestions of brands and models. thanks bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3722/7161 - Release Date: 03/06/14 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: zx/mz question
I still have my MZ-3, but haven't used it in years. Sitting in a drawer alongside my other film bodies; LX, MX, SuperA, ME Super, et al. The most recent I've had a film in would be my MX, a few years back. - Peter -Original Message- From: CollinB Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 1:22 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: zx/mz question A simple poll: If you are shooting film, is anyone still using a ZX/MZ body? If so, which model? (I'm not seeing many of them around these days.) Collin Brendemuehl -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3697/7069 - Release Date: 02/06/14 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Heads-up Ricoh
http://sam-haskins.tumblr.com/image/34125592632 Damn, look at that grain! Pentax must've really used some terrible sensors back in the '60s. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: studio gear lust
Hmm looks pretty neat. Indoor use only I'd think, wouldn't deal with wind so well. It'd be nice if it would just go on a normal light stand (it may do, for all I know, but they don't seem to sell it without the stand). If I could get one for a normal stand, I'd be tempted.. - Peter -Original Message- From: Larry Colen Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:58 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: studio gear lust There was a photo booth at the company party this afternoon, I saw this background setup and was instantly filled with gear envy: http://www.calumetphoto.com/product/calumet-on-site-portable-background-system/MP0500/ $250 for a stand and backdrop is out of my price range this week, but it looks awesome. The white backdrop also looks like it could be used as an 8x8 softbox. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6912 - Release Date: 12/11/13 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Camera Strap
I love my Luma Loop straps. Unfortunately they don't make them any more (some patent dispute with black rapid I think). I actually use my loop attached to one of the strap rings rather than the tripod screw/QR plate, I find it works better for me. The quick release on the strap is very handy for those times I want to untether it from my shoulder (I also have a camdapter hand strap/QR plate on there for such occasions). Luma have a new Cinch strap, but I've not tried it so can't really comment. I seems to operate quite differently. I always found the actual blackrapids somewhat bulkier, but others swear by them. Either way, 'd never go back to a neckstrap now.. just seems so clunky and awkward. - Peter -Original Message- From: Steve Cottrell Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 5:50 AM To: pentax list Subject: Camera Strap Does anyone use any of the camera straps of the type that don't attach to the normal camera strap mounts - rather they attach to a mechanism, that screws into the tripod mount on the base plate, allowing the camera to be carried upside down over the shoulder? Any recommendations / pointers to manufacturers? THANKS -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6834 - Release Date: 11/13/13 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My K3.....
In Oz, the silver 'kit' was A$200 more, which is a bargain for the grip and a spare battery. There's no kit available with the black version including grip though, so I can't really compare pricing there. Still, I ordered the black one. I have plenty of D-LI90s.. I'll probably pay more than $200 for the grip - but I just couldn't bring myself to buy the ugly silver monstrosity version :) - Peter -Original Message- From: John Francis Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:09 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: My K3. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 06:20:02PM -0600, Bill wrote: On 30/10/2013 1:08 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Congrats on the K-3 and getting the limited for the same price as the plain chocolate version, Bill! Honestly, I thought about telling him to forget it, just get me a black one, but it seems foolish to give up the thrown in battery and grip because I don't like the silver cosmetics. I took a bath on my silver Limited lenses because I wanted black ones once they became available. bill It sounds to me as though one of you is getting a bit confused. AFAIK the Silver K-3 kit (with the matching grip and an extra battery) costs round about the same as the same package in black, not the same as a black K-3 'body only'. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wifi live view
That should be shit-tonne. I thought it was Imperial shit-tonne, and a metric (technically an ISO) shit-ton. I believe ASA also uses shit-ton, but I could be mistaken. Definitely Tonne in metric. Of course it all depends.. If you have a metric 'ton' of shit, that's a shit-tonne. But if you have an imperial ton of metric shit, that would be a shitte-ton. Then for a metric 'ton' of metric shit, that would of course be one shitte-tonne. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs
Yup :) Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody else order one yet? Bob S. On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: There is so much new and inviting to look forward to, but still, relative AF speed and sensitivity performance are the center of my curiosity at the moment. Jack - Original Message - From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 8:07 AM Subject: Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs Thanks. That looks rather impressive. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/7/2013 7:44:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes: Pssst: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/K-3/PENTAX%20-%20K-3.html#! product-highlights In case anyone missed it. On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: AND now the page is a 404 error. : ) On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the clarification, George. I agree with you; I would probably also want the ability to turn that off but it will be interesting to see what sort of images it produces. It is amazing to me what is possible with the in-camera horsepower of the PRIME III. I will be very interested to see what the dynamic range, etc. is for this sensor/camera. If it is anywhere close to the K-5/II/IIs it is probably going to be the *best* APS-C DSLR on the market (at least for a week or two). : ) It is worth remembering that other camera manufacturers also use the Fujitsu Milbeaut image processor and so will be seeing a corresponding jump in *their* capabilities sooner, rather than later. On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:06 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: that should say more than one correction. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:04 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Darren This is from the highlights page of the K-3 page. Multi-pattern white balance When shooting scenes that include multiple light sources, such as sunlight and shade or flash, light sources are recognized automatically and the image is separated into different areas. White balance is adjusted separately in each area according to the different light sources to achieve optimal color reproduction. Sounds like it makes more than correction in different parts of the same image. I agree, like most other adjustments, it probably only applies to jpgs. But, it sounds like something I would want to turn off or on as a creative tool. I'm thinking of twilight or night shots where you may have several types of light in the same image. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I believe that means that you can save JPEGs from the RAW image in different white balance configurations easily, in camera (which is very cool). ALL of the information is always there in the RAW file. IF that is correct, then I don't see any need to disable, because it won't happen automatically (saving you 9 different JPEGs at each preset white balance). Also, the anti-alias IS accomplished with microscopic sensor vibrations, so I was wrong about that. I don't really understand how it can do that AND shake reduction, but we'll see how it is implemented. I suppose that most people are going to shoot with it OFF and go for the resolution over the (rare) moire problem (unless you are shooting a lot of wedding dresses or something). On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:54 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: The multiple white balance corrections in a single photo sounds interesting from a technical standpoint. I hope that is something that can be disabled. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I see it now. Thanks, Brian. On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME III... There is, actually: http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-highlights in the section headed Fastest continuous shooting at 8.3FPS -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the
Re: Does the s cause moire problems?
I wonder if the K-3 has an option to switch off tge anti aliasing filter simulator? Ye! 3 options: Off/Low/High Dario Now, I want AA bracketing too :) - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs
Synchronization speed: 1/180 sec oh FFS :-/ Still?! Otherwise... looks awesome. -Original Message- From: Darren Addy Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:36 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-specs -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3408 / Virus Database: 3222/6728 - Release Date: 10/06/13 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: it's time ...
The most whining I've seen is that there is no improvement in the 1/180th flash sync speed. I find this a bit humorous, being an old fart, and wondering how we ever got along in the 1/60th of a second film camera X-sync days. There was a manufacturer that attained 1/125th with a vertical focal plane shutter, if memory serves. A manufacturer? Pretty much every manufacturer did 1/125 vertical focal plane, and beyond. Even Pentax managed 1/250 x-sync (PZ-1p). I dunno, as a (the? :) whinger about this one... I guess I don't see it as any different to any other camera spec that has changed since the old days ok, my first camera (ME Super) had 1/125, not 1/60.. but even then, we've moved on since those days. One could say the same about any 'spec' really. How did we ever get on before AF? Before we had continuous shooting/motor drives? before we could only fit 36 shots on a memory card? :) - we all managed with what we had, but it doesn't mean improvements aren't worthwhile. What annoys me, I guess, is that film cameras managed to get beyond 1/180. As I said even Pentax managed to get 1/250. And that was with a full frame to cover... With less shutter travel, given the same shutter velocity, we should be able to do better than that. Anyway, it's something I keep hoping for with each release, so it's a bit frustrating, especially with the rumoured new flash system. Not to mention 1/180 being a relatively awkward speed... as a 2/3rd stop, it means flash meters can be annoying to work with it, or flash settings, etc. I'd be happy enough with 1/250 just to make that easier. Actually the other thing that would be nice (and *could* be done with firmware, but I won't hold my breath), would be to fire the flash even at xsync. Nikons and Canons do this, and it's possible to do some clever tricks to get faster sync with pocket wizards and other triggers. It may not be important to everyone, but some would find it useful. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A camera for mom...?
Kids, Dogs, Beach... sounds messy :) Might be worth looking into something water/shock proof so she doesn't have to worry about babying it too much? Along the lines of the Pentax WG3, but there may be better out there. - Peter -Original Message- From: Christine Nielsen Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:52 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: A camera for mom...? So, here's a question... what kind of camera would you recommend for your mother? Your mother who isn't tech-savvy in any way. Who wants to take pics of the grandkids and the dog, on the beach, and at dance recitals and soccer games I'm thinking easy to use, not enormous or heavy, probably not dslr... maybe with large buttons on it, so she can read them without her glasses...? :) That's not an iPhone... Is there anything out there in the super zoom/bridge camera range that's worth considering? Thanks, -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
AF540FGZ-II
... just arrived. In a Ricoh branded box, with Pentax above the model name. The carry bag and flash itself still say ‘Pentax’ at least. Now off to play... - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses
This is why I want my flashes to be controlled vi wifi, and with an app for my phone/tablet/computer where I can simply and easily see and control everything from one place. Agreed. Having on-camera remote group control (as Canons can do, say), is a notch better than having to go to the flash to do it, but still not where I want it. A handheld device would be ideal; and I'm hoping the yongnuo 560TX will be able to do that. Will have to wait and see... - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Oh, Pentax
Well, I got the FA 50 f1.4 back and it seems to be working fine. But can you believe it: I'm still waiting for the DA* 50-135mm. Pentax has had it since the first week in July. I called the other day, and they have the new motor, but the accompanying circuit board is still on back order with Pentax Japan. Ugh! I asked if there was any chance to get it back by Sept. 18th (field trip that day), and no promises were given. Bummer. Just can't figure out why these parts would be so hard to ship. Do you have any idea how much time it takes to harvest all the baby unicorn tears required to make one of those? A very long time, that's how much. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses
I just got myself a Metz 58 AF-2, it seems up to the task and is very much more affordable here than the Pentax 540. I'm happy, though not ecstatic with my Metz. A few things are more awkward than they should be, like adjusting power in manual mode. I've been fairly happy with my (slightly older) 58AF-1, except it has just developed an issue with the motor zoom last week :-/ so I'm back to using the 540 for now. However I do agree the settings are a little tedious. The 54MZ series were a bit nicer in that respect. I'm seriously looking at one of those midwest photo lumopros as a manual backup to the Metz. If I'm using multiple strobes I'm not going to be shooting in TTL mode anyways. For the price, I'm pretty happy with my Yongnuo YN560-iii flashes at like $70 each. There were numerous QC issues with the original YN560, but they seem to have pretty much sorted this out. Or maybe I've just been lucky. Anyway, not only do they have built in RF receivers, but Yongnuo have recently announced they'll be releasing a trigger that allows group control with remote manual power setting on them. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stupid Metz question
You select Servo from the Remote menu. (Sel-Remote-Servo) But perhaps you need to update your firmware first, if you haven't? See http://www.metz.de/en/flash-units/firmware-download-flash-units/mecablitz-58-af-2-digital/pentax.html - Peter -Original Message- From: Larry Colen Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 6:30 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Stupid Metz question I did try to RTFM, and the answer wasn't obvious, probably because I was not looking for the right word in the index. How do I set up my new Metz 58 as an optically triggered dumb strobe? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enablement du jour
You will probably have the best luck, right off the bat, using all of the strobes in manual mode. This means you cannot trigger off the pop-up flash because Pentax can't understand why anyone would want to make any flash exposure decisions for themselves, or even worse, remotely trigger any flash that wasn't made with Pentax to use their wireless sync protocol. Hmm, doesn't the pop-up flash fire a single flash suitable as a trigger when in M mode? I must admit I've not recently tried this, maybe never with the K5. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K5 focus screen - user changable?
K5 focus screen - user changable? Does the K5 have user changable focus screens? Sure does. I put a katz-eye in mine. It’s pretty straight forward, though you might need to use different shims to adjust the focus properly (available as spares from Pentax). - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: IT'S HERE! Fifth PDML Photo Annual!
ROCKSTARS worked for me too. Thanks! - Peter -Original Message- From: Stan Halpin Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 11:43 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: IT'S HERE! Fifth PDML Photo Annual! Thanks Larry - that covered my cost of shipping. stan On May 8, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I was able to get 15% off with ROCKSTARS On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 12:14:25PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: Sorry, this promotion cannot be be applied to books you did not author. And with all the other codes I find, there is _always_ a reason they cannot be used. Here's a list: http://couponfollow.com/site/blurb.com -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2241 / Virus Database: 3162/5809 - Release Date: 05/08/13 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT For the cyclists here
Discussions around sex, religion, politics and the controversy surrounding bicycle helmets are usually shunned but I thought that this article may be of interest: http://sydney.edu.au/news/84.html?newsstoryid=11488 I wonder if there is a similar correlation between having sustained a 'severe head injury', and being a Pentax user. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nice Pentax watches
Bong Manayon wrote: Most camera makers have 'branded' items of sorts such as water bottle, towels and apparel (Canon has an umbrella, Pentax does not...). It's just more proof that Pentax is not a real competitor anymore. If I can't get an umbrella for my camera system, then why would I want to stick with them? All the big guys do umbrellas, come on Pentax, what are you thinking! :) But yeah, agreed, the watch is a 'cute' addition for marketing; I'm sure they'll give them away to various resellers (if they still have any...) or high profile users (ditto) as incentives. And they'll probably sell ok in Japan. All companies of any size do this kind of stuff, I'm not sure it's a sky-falling example really. If anything it's positive that they are doing *any* brand-recognition/marketing activities. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enablement and a question on list rules
Or using a Pentax Endoscope. Just don't post behind-the-scenes shots. -Original Message- From: Bong Manayon Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:34 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Enablement and a question on list rules So long you're wearing a Pentax watch... :) On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:59 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: The PUG has always allowed shots that use JUST a Pentax lens, not necessarily a Pentax camera. (I just double checked that, yup.) The annual I am not sure about. (I looked on Mark's page and didn't/couldn't find any break down in specifications like that.) HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-) But, you know, maybe one of these days they'll lighten up the rules to people who once USED a Pentax. Heh. In a message dated 4/17/2013 8:36:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bori...@gmail.com writes: Hi! After quite a wait (which was totally worth it), another Ricoh GXR-M mount module arrived here yesterday. This time it was accompanied by Novoflex K-mount adapter. This is most wondrous thing as it works seamlessly regardless of whether the lens has an aperture ring or not. Focusing it with A 50/1.2 fully open is not any more difficult than any other lens. In fact it is quite easy. So now, I have a Ricoh camera and all my Pentax lenses (notably 50/1.2, 43 and 77) that can be used on it. Is it then appropriate to: 1. Post photographs taken with this gear to PUG? 2. Submit such photographs to PDML annual? What would elders say? Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://bong.manayon.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2241 / Virus Database: 3162/5751 - Release Date: 04/17/13 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enablement
I've had the 58AF-1 for quite a few years (which is very similar), and have never had a problem with it. Been 100% reliable. Interface isn't great (the 54MZ metz flashes I have are much better), but it's usable. Yes, it stays on manual mode. 540FGZ is so frustrating for off camera work. It wouldn't bother me if it switched to PTTL when on camera; but doing it on power on even when not connected is ridiculous. USB is handy, Firmware updates have kept it working with newer Pentax cameras. All in all I'll reach for this ahead of my 540FGZ. Been very happy with all my Metz flashes. One thing to be aware of... full power has something like a 1/120 flash duration, so you won't see full GN at 1/180 sync. - Peter -Original Message- From: Larry Colen Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 4:33 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Enablement My metz 58 af-2 arrived in the mail today. I haven't had a chance to do any real photography with it yet, but my first impressions are: It's a bit smaller than the AF540 in just about every dimension. It has several features that the Pentax doesn't: The second flash on the front A stroboscopic mode (can set power, number of flashes and frequency) flash bracketing USB update for firmware Manual power control in 1/3 stop intervals to 1/256 power I am not entirely thrilled with the user interface. I don't have specific suggestions for how to make it better, but it isn't really trivial, or intuitive, to adjust anything on it. It was a bit of a pain finding an English only, PDF of the manual for the pentax version to download to my tablet. It will be interesting to see whether it stays in manual mode when set there (unlike the pentax), or how long it will work between needing to be sent in for repair. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5732 - Release Date: 04/08/13 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Has New Firmware
Doesn't everyone here shoot Nikon or Sony FF now? Hang on.. I thought we were all moving to Instagram? Have I missed the boat, again? - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I don't understand
The FA lenses also tell the body to what distance they are focused. Perhaps his lenses are at infinity? I had considered that too, but I'm not sure it follows. I could see the camera opening up the aperture based on focus distance relative to guide number, with a flash. But to adjust shutter speed? Unless you're shooting slow-sync, then surely it assumes all light comes from the Flash; and so shutter speed (up to x-sync) is irrelevant? Nonetheless, I blame the sigma flash :) - Peter -Original Message- From: Rick Womer Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 10:01 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: I don't understand The FA lenses also tell the body to what distance they are focused. Perhaps his lenses are at infinity? Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:51 PM Subject: Re: I don't understand - Original Message - From: Collin Brendemuehl Subject: I don't understand When I put either the FA28/2.8or the FA50/1.4 and use either the internal or a shoe-mount flash, the shutter speed goes to 1/25. But when I use an A lens it goes to the desired 1/180. Why? The FA lens supplies more information to the camera and allows dynamic shutter speed adjustment when using flash. A series and earlier don't supply such niceties, and so the feature is disabled. I suspect Pentax could enable it if they desired, the A lens does transmit aperture, which is all that should be required, but they want to sell new lenses, and so disable some features. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2238 / Virus Database: 2639/5572 - Release Date: 01/31/13 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom vs Sigma 18-250 question
The LCP files do indeed contain the ID, at least for the Pentax lenses. It is absent from some (all?) Sigma ones. I recall there are some conflicting IDs with third party lenses, presumably due to Sigma's unwillingness to actually licence anything? Anyway, If you look in, say, the Pentax DA 55 LCP file, you'll see: stCamera:LensID8 226/stCamera:LensID So I guess one could put the same (but I suppose 8 8) in the appropriate sigma file. Seems like you need to put it in every entry in the correction table. I have no idea if this will make it use this ID to identify the lens, mind you. - Peter -Original Message- From: Bruce Walker Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 6:57 AM To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Subject: Lightroom vs Sigma 18-250 question Posting for a K-5 -toting friend (Gerrit Visser) who just got Lightroom for Windows. Gerrit asks ... The puzzle is why the Sigma 18-250 shows as Unknown lens in Library/metadata while it is listed ok in Develop. The lens id is 8 8 which is in the exif, exiftools displays the correct lens etc. Has anyone figured out where LR/Camera Raw keeps it mapping tables? The .lcp files do not contain any information regarding the lens id, only corrections. As an added twist, the release notes have the word Macro in the Sigma lens name, while it appears nowhere else. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2629/5427 - Release Date: 11/29/12 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lost, K10D
Probably a bit early yet for photos to be out there, but: http://www.stolencamerafinder.com/home?searchType=auto Need to give it a photo with EXIF. Or a serial # manually. - Peter -Original Message- From: knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 1:50 PM To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: Lost, K10D Ok, not really lost, rather, stupidly left on a bench. It happened a week and a half ago. I was working at the time, had taken my camera strap off my neck and put the camera next to me while I sat in a shopping mall checking something in my wallet. Then my Android beeped, telling me I got a call to pick up. As I got off the subway about fifteen minutes later that sinking feeling hit me; no camera around my neck. I immediately got a second call to do, so unfortunately it was almost two hours after I left my camera before I got back to the mall. Checked with security and all the stores near the bench (who would have brought the camera to security - mall policy); nothing turned in. Checked the local lost and found ads, placed lost and found ads myself, continued to monitor ads and security. Nothing. Gone. Ok, I know the person who found it and walked away with it did nothing illegal, but you'll never convince me that keeping that camera was morally right. The ~right~ thing to do would have been to turn it in to security. They might as well have stolen it from me. I guess what bothers me most is that they won't get much for it if they pawn it or sell it. It's worth far more to me than it's market value. Even worse, what likely happened is that the finder sold it at a bar for $20 for a few beers. Oh well. About 30 lost images, maybe a few good ones but no prize winners. The 18-55mm was on it and while I'll miss it, at least it's not a valuable lens. And I still have my venerable *IstD. It was a terrific camera and took wonderful images. I'll miss it. cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5349 - Release Date: 10/23/12 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lost, K10D
Hmm actually, seems it only gives 1 result free. Maybe useless then. Might be other options around though, probably worth a bit of a search. - Peter -Original Message- From: Peter Loveday Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 2:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lost, K10D Probably a bit early yet for photos to be out there, but: http://www.stolencamerafinder.com/home?searchType=auto Need to give it a photo with EXIF. Or a serial # manually. - Peter -Original Message- From: knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 1:50 PM To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: Lost, K10D Ok, not really lost, rather, stupidly left on a bench. It happened a week and a half ago. I was working at the time, had taken my camera strap off my neck and put the camera next to me while I sat in a shopping mall checking something in my wallet. Then my Android beeped, telling me I got a call to pick up. As I got off the subway about fifteen minutes later that sinking feeling hit me; no camera around my neck. I immediately got a second call to do, so unfortunately it was almost two hours after I left my camera before I got back to the mall. Checked with security and all the stores near the bench (who would have brought the camera to security - mall policy); nothing turned in. Checked the local lost and found ads, placed lost and found ads myself, continued to monitor ads and security. Nothing. Gone. Ok, I know the person who found it and walked away with it did nothing illegal, but you'll never convince me that keeping that camera was morally right. The ~right~ thing to do would have been to turn it in to security. They might as well have stolen it from me. I guess what bothers me most is that they won't get much for it if they pawn it or sell it. It's worth far more to me than it's market value. Even worse, what likely happened is that the finder sold it at a bar for $20 for a few beers. Oh well. About 30 lost images, maybe a few good ones but no prize winners. The 18-55mm was on it and while I'll miss it, at least it's not a valuable lens. And I still have my venerable *IstD. It was a terrific camera and took wonderful images. I'll miss it. cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5349 - Release Date: 10/23/12 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5349 - Release Date: 10/23/12 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Jury verdict is for Apple (vs Samsung)
It does though depend a lot on what one considers prior art. There are examples of touch UI using pinch-zoom well before the iphone. This Microsoft/NYU-Research demo is a year prior to the iPhone being shown: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKh1Rv0PlOQ, and that's just one example. Now Apple's patent is admittedly specific to a portable device, and perhaps that makes a legal difference, I dunno. Still, borrowing your bluebird analogy, that seems akin to Kodak (as Apple this time) saying to MS/NYU, We've invented this great new bluebird photo. It looks just the same as yours, but ours is specific to having been shot on APS on a much smaller body. So it's a new invention, and took us years to think of. Anyway, the legalities will be debated for years I'm sure, but I don't really buy most of the Invention arguments on either side of the fence here. - Peter -Original Message- From: Stan Halpin Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:43 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Jury verdict is for Apple (vs Samsung) Rounded corners I think are a relatively trivial issue, though I must admit that I am surprised to see how many non-Apple phones look so much like Apple. You would think that other companies designers could do something other than copy. The part I most strongly react to is the patent(s) relating to the tap, pinch, etc. aspects of the interface. And Apple's statement that it took them three years to develop, and then it took Samsung 3 months to copy that work. I worked on interface design back when we were struggling with early GUIs, issues like natural-feeling ways to expand windows, pop-up vs. pull-down menus, etc. Interface design is a non-trivial process, and Apple deserves a great deal of respect for their continued ability to find good solutions. Good enough that others want to copy what they have done. I can hear the argument but those are the only gestures that could be used on a touch-screen interface, why should Apple profit from such an obvious trivial detail? The answer is that what they've done didn't exist before. Why shouldn't they have the benefit of their labors? I wouldn't want an Apple-dominated world anymore than an MS-dominated world. But I do like to see the little guy (Apple) do well and profit from it. And I will cheer on the next set of good ideas as well. Even if, however unlikely it is, that they come from MS or Samsung. stan On Aug 27, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Tom C wrote: From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info Tom, do you remember the iconic bluebird photo 10-15 years ago? It showed up in calendars, posters, postcards, etc. I remember an interview with the photographer - he earned enough from that one shot to build a home in the woods, full studio and darkroom, etc. What if Kodak early on had said that shot has great moneymaking potential; we'll copy it and use our superior marketing (and lower pricing) to compete with you for sales of that image. And oh by the way, if you don't like it, then our film division won't sell you any more film. I think that is a close analogy to what you are suggesting that Samsung should do. Yes, copyright and patent rights are not identical, but the principle is the same; theft of intellectual property is not a good thing. stan Hi Stan, I'm all for intellectual property rights. Apple and Xerox Parc have some potential issues as well then. I'm sure some will differ, and I'm not trying to start a debate by any means, as I'm truly no authority on the subject. I'll readily admit my statements are made upon the white-washed summarizations of the legal proceedings and not the gory legal or technical details. From what I've read some of Apple's issues are with shapes,radius of rounded corners and look of icons. My general opinion is you can patent an implementation of an idea, or particular code behind a technology, but not an idea. Again, I'm not a lawyer and don't have intimate knowledge. If Samsung actually stole intellectual property then I agree they should pay. If they said 'hey that's a good idea; let's do something like that' and then made their own block-buster product, that's the free market. I may recall the bluebird photo you're referring to (or it's my imagination). In any case Kodak or anyone else with a camera was certainly able to go out and take as many bluebird photos as they wanted to and compete with the guy and that would have been fair and legal, as long as they weren't using the bluebird image he took. I don't think Kodak theoretically refusing to sell film is the same issue as what I'm suggesting. I'm suggesting Samsung could recoup the penalty at some future time. What I'm against is a world where we only have Fords, Apple iPads, Apple smart phones, Samsung TV's, Frigidaire refrigerators,,, you get my drift, to choose from, and from what I can see that's the kind of world Apple would like it to be. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Re: Semi-OT: Put yourself in my shoes for a moment . . .
Are there any friendly local PDML'ers you could hit up for a loan of a lens for the trip? I'd offer, but i think going via Australia is probably a bit more of a detour than you'd want to take... - Peter -Original Message- From: Walt Gilbert Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:26 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Semi-OT: Put yourself in my shoes for a moment . . . . . . and give me your thoughts. Say you're going to be leaving for the Black Hills of South Dakota in a little over a month and have an extremely limited budget. I'm quite literally saving up the quarters from my tips (along with everything else that I can) to finance it. But, you want to make sure that you get some images worthy of the trip. I'll be taking all of my camera bodies with me -- K-x, K20D, K100D Super -- and plan to use my Promaster 70-300 as a zoom, at least one of my 50mm primes, and I'd like to have something wider for landscapes. I have a Takumar 28/2.8, but it's really a pretty crappy lens compared to the others. What would be the best, most affordable option -- best bang for the lowest buck -- for the wider landscapes? All I really care about is the focal length and IQ -- everything else is mere window dressing as far as I'm concerned. I'm essentially looking for something very common and highly regarded. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5210 - Release Date: 08/19/12 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Replacement for Pentax K-5
I dunno, I find the size/weight of the K-5 ok. All relative I suppose. I'm pretty much entirely happy with the K-5 in almost all regards. I suppose it shows how DSLRs are reaching maturity that so many of us are actually happy with the product. Not so long ago being happy with a Pentax product on this list might have been considered heresy :) About the only thing that would encourage me to upgrade would be better flash sync speeds, like 1/500th maybe. I can dream anyway :) - Peter -Original Message- From: John Francis Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 4:30 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Replacement for Pentax K-5 On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 01:02:41PM -0500, Darren Addy wrote: In any event, this is all a spectator sport for me. I'm very pleased with the K-5 and it will be a long time (if ever) before I exceed its capabilities. In fact, the next purchase I'm currently considering is a Q. The next purchase I'm considering is whatever replaces the OM-D. I doubt if I'll need anything more than the K-5 offers, and I've got most of the lenses I want. But I'd like something lighter. The EPL-1 doesn't replace the K-5, but it supplements it nicely. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5201 - Release Date: 08/14/12 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Do sRGB and adobe RGB make any difference in raw files?
If the color space for RAW is determined by the sensor associated hardware/software, what does setting the color space on the camera do? It probably affects the in-camera translation to jpeg. That is correct. Indeed. However... theoretically, there have been sporadic reports that the white balance setting actually affects gain adjustments to channels pre-ADC on various camera models, including some Pentax ones (amongst others). If this is indeed true, then this implies that the white balance setting can affect can cause changes to raw captured data. I imagine Auto WB would not do this, only specific settings, but I'm not really sure what was found to be the case. Anyway, not something I've ever really bothered about personally, but the implication is that on certain camera models, in certain WB settings and shooting situations, you may be able to get better captured RAW results with specific WB settings. But without anything concrete, it's more or less guesswork. Bottom line: shoot RAW, ignore WB, take photos :) - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom and RAW vs DNG files
On the K-7 K-20 I believe you could choose either PEF or DNG as the raw format. I never owned those cameras, so I'm not 100% sure. Yep. As you can on the K-5. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The difference between a tourist taking photos and an artistmaking images
From: Bruce Walker On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 June 2012 23:19, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://themetapicture.com/art-degrees/ Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola I'm inclined to agree with that observation. I am as well, to a degree. I dunno, it's a pretty obtuse observation. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: RIP Tommy
Brilliant photo. I know others have said that it shows how he is drinking himself to death, but to me.. well, I don't see that. Maybe the second one you posted makes that point more so (for me). Anyway, this, aside from the beautiful rendering, shows a character - larrikin, one of the boys, yob, whatever you want to call it. I feel a sense of carefree, happy go lucky, freedom to the image. And I guess that's where drinking takes us. In any case, beautiful photo, of an interesting subject - for me, not so much sad, but representative of someone who's where he wants to be. YMMV. - Peter Once again, I captured the last image ever someone I knew -- in this case, a guy named Tommy Pool. He used to frequent the club where I tend bar, but a little over a year ago, he applied for a re-enrollment and he was declined by the membership due to his inability to control his drinking. Well, that didn't stop him from drinking himself to death, which he a couple of weeks ago. I'd dropped by his place with a friend a few weeks prior and he was in his usual condition. I happened to be carrying my camera that night and decided to pop off a few shots. This was the last one of the bunch: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7181169897/ K-x, A50/1.7, f/2.2, ISO 3200, 1/125 Comments are, as always, welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Problems with K-5 and extension tubes
Just tried this, and I'm seeing the same thing too, with an A28/2.8 I'm guessing the camera refuses to stop down at all if it thinks there is no lens present. The vivitar extension tubes are black on the mount (well, mine are anyway) and I'm guessing non-conductive? The alfoil trick on the contacts does seem to make it work as intended. I'm now tempted to sand the paint off that part of the mount on my tubes. - Peter -Original Message- From: John Francis Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 2:13 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Problems with K-5 and extension tubes I've run into a problem trying to use my (Vivitar) auto extension tubes with my K-5. Scenarion: Camera set to M, lens (A 50/f1.4) set to f/22. With the lens directly mounted to the camera, everything works as expected: DOF preview stops the lens down to f/22, and the exposure check showshow far I am off from correct exposure. Taking theshoot results in an image correctly exposed at f/22. If I put one of the extension tubes in place, though, the lens stays wide open at all times, and the image is captured at f/1.4 [no other changes to the settings on either lthe lens or the body] This is not what I expect (or want). Any clue as to what is wrong? Fortunately I have a work-around; using the Fotodiox K-mount-to-m43 adapter (and the same lens extension tubes) on the Olympus E-PL1. Here's what I was trying to photograph: http://www.jfwaf.com/temp/pfsmini1.jpg That's a small metal figure a friend of ours painted for my wife to use when we participate in tabletop role-playing games (Pathfinder). For a size reference, the large knurled circular plinth at the very bottom of the shot is a metal K-mount body cap. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5001 - Release Date: 05/15/12 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras
I have an L-308s, I hadn't actually seen that they had new digital versions out. As far as I can see, it's more or less just the added ability to calibrate that's different? I don't get the impression it meters any differently to suit digital at all, more that you can calibrate it to match your (presumably incorrect ISO rated) digital sensor? I've never really had any problems using mine with my DSLRs, so I'm not really that convinced I need to upgrade. - Peter -Original Message- From: Bob W Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:47 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen [...] People seem to have taken my question as a challenge to their adulthood or something. I seriously don't see what light meter will get you that a little creative work with the camera and histogram won't. Meanwhile, nobody's answering my actual question. Bienvenue a l'internet. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2171 / Virus Database: 2425/4999 - Release Date: 05/14/12 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentaxes in the classroom, and reliability
His problems are kind of a shame, because I think that a big part of the reason that the K1000 was such an iconic student camera was its robustness. Yeah, we had a stable of K1000s and some Ricoh K mount equivalent (no idea what model now) in our school; While there always seemed to be a few off for repair, I recall the photography teacher once saying Notice how it's always the Ricohs that break down. Ironically, I suppose your friend could say exactly the same thing these days... - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax cameras really really really really...
Yes, I think you might be right. For some reason, I had thought it was in all of them, but obviously I just remember it from the *istD. Guess I mostly avoid this issue, as I always make a habit of leaving the SD hatch (and battery hatch, if applicable) open when I've removed the card/battery, so I remember to put them back in before I take the camera out with me. - Peter -Original Message- From: John Francis Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 5:23 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax cameras really really really really... On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 04:45:01PM +1000, Brian Walters wrote: Both my *ist DS and K200D will fire the shutter with no card in the camera and I can't see any custom function on either camera to change this. If you can point me to the appropriate custom function, I'd be in your debt! The *ist-D had a setting that would prevent shutter tripping without a card in the camera, but that may well have been the only Pentax DSLR to have this function. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4953 - Release Date: 04/22/12 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax cameras really really really really...
Which camera? There is usually a setting to stop that. - Peter -Original Message- From: Tim Bray Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 12:59 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Pentax cameras really really really really... ... really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really ... ... shouldn’t let you take a picture with a cheerful click of the shutter when you don’t have a memory card installed. That is all. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4953 - Release Date: 04/22/12 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another Pentax Oddity
It very likely that this is a fake. None of the features make sense, especially the film type reminder on the back that looks like it came off a 60's german rangefinder. Yes, Looks a lot like the one on the top of my Retinette (II I think?), to me. And what a ridiculous place to put it; doesn't look likely. - Peter On 14/04/2012, at 5:29 PM, Brian Walters wrote: This seems to be a special version of the ME. It's not listed on Boz's site as far as I can tell. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem_trksid=p4340.l2557hash=item256f32e2f8item=160779395832nma=truept=Film_Camerasrt=ncsi=Lx42P3wE8S4cGT2KnGj42OA3hYU%253Dsspagename=RSS%3AB%3ASHOP%3AAU%3A101orig_cvip=truert=nc or http://alturl.com/xsgon -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Photo Annual update
Tim Bray wrote: Do like a game designer and ship it when it’s ready to ship. And the community thanks you. So long as it doesn't turn out like a 3D Realms/Triptych Games/Gearbox Software/Piranha Games release (Duke Nukem Forever), we'll all be happy :) - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: monitor calibration upgrade
FYI, as I understand it, Spyder2 can still be used with Lion; but you need to use the Spyder3Express software (which is a free download): http://spyder.datacolor.com/support-osx-lion.php - Peter -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:56 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: monitor calibration upgrade The Spyder 2 has a new home. On Mar 21, 2012, at 8:33 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I finally had to purchase office 2011 for Mac. Too many problems with comments, hyperlinks and other peripheral items with an older version that relied on a conversion utility to read dock files. Since it's my livelihood, I decided not to experiment with open office or other alternatives. So that opened the way for an upgrade to opsys 10.7, Lion. Good enough. Except that obsoleted my trusty Spider 2 Express calibration tool, which has kept my monitors palette right in sync with my printers for years. Seems it only works on Macs with 10.6 and earlier. Since I had so much good luck with that product, i purchased Spier Pro 4 from BH for $169. It nailed the color palette, and since it also sets luminance, I didn't have to do the fiddly workaround to set the brightness that I previously employed. What's more, it will calibrate a second monitor, so my Apple Cinema Display 21 now matches the iMac 27. Not absolutely necessary, since I use it mainly for tools and function windows with PhotoShop, but a nice convenience. I'm pleased. That brings us back to the Spider 2 Express. As I said, it does a good job on color calibration, at least it did on all my Macs. I think it works on all PCs, but not sure about that. It's free to anyone in the U.S. who wants to pay postage. Hate to discriminate against those in other places, but you probably don't want to fool around with potential custom problems and postage that almost exceeds the worth of the item. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4885 - Release Date: 03/21/12 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)
Coopers all the way :) But then, I'm South Australian, so somewhat biased :) There are various good microbreweries around, of course. I would suggest various SA wine destinations, but as you're not really coming this way... But if you are into wine, there are a number of areas between Melbourne and Sydney, depending on the route you're taking, say around Griffith or Mudgee area, amongst others. I've not visited them myself. Of course Hunter Valley isn't prohibitively far up from Sydney, if you wanted to do that. Hmm, do we have any Victorian PDMLers? I can't actually think of any... - Peter -Original Message- From: David Savage Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:32 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney) I'm a big fan of James Squire Little Creatures beers. LC is here in Freo. The do an awesome lentil curry the pizzas are spectacular. On 23/02/2012, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:32 PM, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: P.S.: I hear Australia is a better place for beer wine than liquor, so I may have to pass on the gin. ;) Not sure how big craft brewing is in Australia, but the native beers I sampled were similar enough to the popular brews in the U.S. from the big breweries. I've heard that they are a bit territorial about beers (literally, by province). VB (Victoria Bitter) for Victoria, for example. The first 33 on this list are Australian. Perhaps you can see how many you can hunt down while there: http://bit.ly/wyQDBr or https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=vq=cache:U_XwtB5PB-MJ:www.jacksonsongeorge.com.au/pdf/BHF%2520Beer%2520List.pdf+hl=engl=uspid=blsrcid=ADGEESjyrMuBSj8dIoJl9JVElE0DiOYW5rt4kHLPzDWUx4arDIbNIJB6HF5mSJiLFE94fTLv-ITL3O_bWEbzEClLiEMbiehZiQcQLwVXcZpwSNKyKhp44nZitRhD4MQhisrC4gTDh_NBsig=AHIEtbRDdVW-1Of2MWReDOCHrmNpM4JJ1gpli=1 If you want a laugh, Google Hahn's Premium commercials and watch the videos. Enjoyed a pitcher with our (fantastic) meal at a tiny Melbourne pub. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I think the K-01 looks cool
If I could get a Hello Kitty one, I'd have pre-ordered by now :) -Original Message- From: Walt Gilbert Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:03 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: I think the K-01 looks cool On 2/10/2012 7:35 PM, Tim Bray wrote: Even in yellow. There, I said it. -T I agree. Yellow isn't my preference, but I wouldn't move into a clock tower if I were to have one forced on me. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Flash for K5/K20D Metz or Pentax or ?...
Amongst others, I have both an AF540 and a Metz 58AF-1 (the -2 is much the same, but with a metal shoe and perhaps other minor changes). They both do a good job, but for flexibility the Metz is hard to beat. Usable manual modes on any camera setting, intelligent auto mode, better manual power level range (down to 1/256 vs 1/64), and it's a bit smaller. The 540 might just have the edge in terms of power, but my choice between the two would be the Metz for sure. I think the Metz is probably also a bit cheaper? Let me know if you have any specific questions between the two. - Peter -Original Message- From: Robert and Leigh Woerner Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:58 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Flash for K5/K20D Metz or Pentax or ?... I am going to buy a new flash soon. I currently have the AF360 and want to upgrade. Any thoughts/opinions/real experience with the Pentax AF540 vs a Metz 58 AF2? I am also open to other recommendations. I am mainly concerned ref reported build quality issues of the Pentax unit and hot shoe sticking problems. Thanks in advance, Robert -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: size comparison
Yeah those little NG bags aren't bad, I was tempted but decided on a thinktank restrospective 5 (http://goo.gl/X9dKS) for casual stuff nowadays. *Just* tall enough for the 60-250 if I want to take it. I prefer it for working out of over my urban disguise 40, and it sure beats carting the Domke F2 everywhere. I often take the camera+55/1.4 loose anyway, and find that the retrospective 5 gives me plenty of space to work out of. I dunno if I'd call the Sigma 30/1.4 a small lens, though :) - Peter -Original Message- From: Tim Bray Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 6:40 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: size comparison I have a nice little National Geographic bag (http://goo.gl/j0gTG) (but with the branding removed). It enforces a useful discipline. I can take the 50-135 and *one* small lens. Or the DFA-100 and two small lenses. Or 3 small lenses, which is all I have (21mm/40mm limited, Sigma f1.4 30mm). Moving from K20 to K-5 made everything a little less strained. -T On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: In another forum, there was a discussion about what kit people take on spontaneous photo walks. Several people mentioned how their primary camera (Nikon D2x and the like) was too big and heavy got me thinking about how my K-5 with the DA40 compares with what was my only SLR for decades, an SRT-101 with a 58/1.4. Note that both set ups have about the same FOV. For fun I threw a couple of primes on a K-1000 and an FE2. Digital cameras aren't really all that much bigger than their film counterparts after all: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/7215… My bathroom scale only has resolution of 100g/.2 lb, but on it, both cameras came in at 1.8 pounds, so it hasn't gotten significantly heavier either. When you compare the size and weight of half a dozen SD cards, that'll each hold a few hundred frames, with a few rolls of film, all of a sudden digital becomes very appealing. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
WTB: Luma Loop / LoopIt v2
I don't suppose anyone has a Luma Loop or LoopIt strap they want to part with do they? They're no longer available new, and I'd like to get a second one... Thanks, - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I blame Savage
Who's to say it isn't? Larry's showing us his bosons interacting with oddly-flavoured quarks. The uncertainty of the spin is a bit strange. What's strange is that this is the first time any body has told me that my quarks are oddly flavoured. I'm wondering how Bob knows what your quarks taste like... - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I blame Savage
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6503305225/ For some reason, given the subject, I was expecting this to be a photo down your pants. Once bitten, twice shy, I guess :) - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I blame Savage
On 12/13/2011 4:02 PM, Peter Loveday wrote: On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6503305225/ For some reason, given the subject, I was expecting this to be a photo down your pants. Once bitten, twice shy, I guess :) I am fairly confident that I have never posted a photo down my pants to this august forum. Likely true. Mr Savage, on the other hand... :) - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDMLers on Facebook - do me a favor?
And some crap too :) Aside from Mark's, which obviously benefits from the omnipotent combined wisdom of the PDML's votes, the number of votes for images seems inverse to its quality. You sure we're not supposed to be voting for the pictures we least want to win? :) The current leader that I could find, with 60 votes, is a guy skiing in trees (Ski Owls Head), which illustrates this perfectly. Ah well, that's public opinion for you. - Peter -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:17 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PDMLers on Facebook - do me a favor? Done. Some nice pics here, but yours is certainly a winner. On Dec 12, 2011, at 8:25 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Could you throw a vote my way in the AMC Photo Contest? My shot is the BW Spring Melt at Pinkham Notch, which I showed as a PESO a couple of weeks ago. http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150424877981681.354590.43527081680type=3 (3rd from right in 28th row down) -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sanyo XX Battery Powered by eneloop, 2500mAh - Best of, bothworlds or a gimmick?
Well, just going by the math ... The 1500mAh Eneloops give 1500 charges X 360 flashes per charge = 540,000 flashes The 2500mAh Eneloops give 500 charges X 460 flashes per charge = 230,000 flashes 2 x 230,000 = 460,000 So it looks like the new high power ones have less than half the usable life of the old ones. Price-wise, they cost 67% more than the regular eneloops ($24.99 vs $14.99), but only give about 43% of the value. Regular Eneloops are 2000mAh. But yeah, unless you really need it (ie don't want to have to change batteries in the middle of a wedding...), then I'd stick with the regular ones. Plus, you can get them in pretty glitter colours :) - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It just gets worse for Olympus
Someone will want their medical division for sure. Hoya will probably corner the market on endoscopes. You're expecting their medical division to go ass-up, then? - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- The Waitress
Nice. Makes me think of... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g12f7uDIGZc - Peter -Original Message- From: P. J. Alling Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 1:56 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO -- The Waitress I went to a dinner meeting the other night as the semi official photographer, (I still had to pay damn it). I took informal portraits of all the attendees, and a few of our waitress, who was much more interesting looking, no one else is officially interested in the photo of the waitress. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thewaitress.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds w/smc Pentax M 40mm f2.8. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is riduculous
You have to set the appropriate custom function (37: Using Aperture Ring) to allow it. See p294 of the manual. -Original Message- From: Larry Colen Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:39 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: This is riduculous On 9/26/2011 10:03 PM, Tom C wrote: I'm trying to use my 43/1.9 in Bulb mode, in a non-A aperture setting. Shutter will not fire. Now I want to use my Zenitar fish-eye. Shutter will not fire. I've probably experienced this before but WTH IS IT SO HARD for this stinking K-7 to work with a lens in MF, manual aperture mode or with a MF lens? It should be OBVIOUS how to do this, or I'm an idiot. I want to just smash this thing with a baseball bat and change brands. Did you tell the K-7 to work with manual aperture lenses? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shopping for an O-GPS1
A) Has anyone on the list been recently shopping for one? Any strong recommendations on places to check out, or to avoid? Bought mine here in Oz, so I can't help you there. But some observations: B) Has anyone that has one run into critical problems that made them decide that it wasn't really worth the money after all? The GPS works well; though don't expect it to work that well indoors. It will work in my house (not that I use it here, for security), though it can take quite a long time to get a lock - if I wander in from outside it maintains it ok though. Recently in some galvanised iron shed type buildings, I couldn't get a lock. Nonetheless, pretty happy with the GPS side of it. The astrotracer function is interesting, and works well within its limitations. But some (silly, to me) decisions with the software implementation limit it a little. Specifically: * No ability to do any sort of multi-exposure for layering. Most astrophotographers will take multiple short exposures rather than one long one, for noise and dynamic range benefits. You can do a nice 3min exposure, but you can't do over the same astro-track, say, 60 x 1sec exposures, each with DFS (or not). * There is also no way to get it to do multiple traced frames in sequence; note this is different to the previous point where I wanted to do multi exposure in one trace, this is to do a time-lapse of lots of astrotraced shots to put together in a video. The astro trace function only works in its own custom menu, so there's no way to use the intervalometer with it. Right, I thought, I can use an external interval remote with it on bulb/astrotrace - but that doesn't work either, because for an astrotrace shot, you don't push the shutter release, you press OK. Like I said, silly little implementation decisions that severely (for me) limit the flexibility of the function; which is frustrating considering the function *does* work well otherwise. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shopping for an O-GPS1
Some other notes: * Even though it's hotshoe mounted, it doesn't prevent all flash usage. The PC sync socket still works fine, and in conjunction with an appropriate hotshoe cable set, I can use my 540FGZ (off-camera) in PTTL just fine. Using the GPS off camera likely would work too, but that could present issues with the compass direction, unless you kept it lined up nicely. Note Pentax say you can't (shouldn't?) use this with a flash - so use at your own risk. * The calibration is slightly awkward, particularly if you have a big lens on. Makes me feel like I'm gonna drop it... :-/ - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shopping for an O-GPS1
DFS? Sorry, Dark-Frame Subtraction. The lack of multiple exposures seems annoying. Could it have something to do with the movement limitations of the sensor? I certainly wouldn't expect it to be able to exceed the total duration (ie movement limits) over all the shots. But within the, say, 3min window there's really no reason it couldn't take several exposures with the sensor tracking over the whole sequence. I did a quick bit of shopping around and ran into another annoying limitation. They don't seem to be currently available. They do seem to have released in an unusual region order with this one; usually these things are available in the US somewhat before Europe/Australia would see them. PentaxWebstore.com still lists them as on pre-order too. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shopping for an O-GPS1
* The calibration is slightly awkward, particularly if you have a big lens on. Makes me feel like I'm gonna drop it... :-/ The guy I was shooting with today was quite amused, watching me juggle my camera to get the thing calibrated. You don't need to do the physical calibration for GPS tagging at least, you just need to do it for astrotracing, if I am not mistaken. The astro-tracing has a more accurate calibration (forget what they call it offhand) - AFAIK in both cases, the calibration is all to do with the direction stuff (compass, perhaps accelerometers). Obviously the astrotracer relies heavily on this being accurate; but also just the direction tagged in the image uses it. I'm not sure how off the mark the compass heading is without it. The actual GPS position (not direction), is unaffected AFAIK. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Enablement
Got my O-GPS1. Seems to work as advertised so far, now looking forward to trying out the AstroTracer. Anyone else playing with one of these? - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras running on Android
I'd love to have a wifi interface for my camera, so I could control it from my phone, including some semblance of live view on the display. I have recently been considering doing a tethered shooting app for Android; specifically for my Nook Colour (running CyanogenMod 7) - though it'd work on any phone/tablet with USB *Host* support. Wouldn't give you wifi control (though it may be possible I guess with two phones/tablets...), but it could, in theory, give tethered shooting/viewfinder via USB. Does anyone else think this would be useful, or would it be largely a waste of time? - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Is Ricoh Going to Buy Pentax????????
The sky isn't falling. This is the PDML. The sky is _always_ falling. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Is Ricoh Going to Buy Pentax????????
Does this mean the K-r K-5 would look like this...? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/5163816994/ Heh :) I'm assuming all new lenses are going to get stuck on the AF drive too... - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TOTALLY OT, but proud mummy needs your help!!
Done and done. -Original Message- From: Tanya Love Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 11:27 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: TOTALLY OT, but proud mummy needs your help!! So hey everyone! I know I haven't been around of late much, been crazy busy, will fill you all in soon, however... I just realised that I haven't posted this to the list and I am such a bad mummy for not doing so! Some of you have seen this on Facebook, but, here goes: My daughter is in the top 10 in the Australian Search for the next Milky Bar Kid!! You may remember Molly-Rose as I photograph her so much and she is all over my portfolio with her ginormous eyes! Anyways, she has beaten over 1600 entrants Nationwide, to get where she is and if she wins, will receive $10k and also record the new Milky Bar TVC in New Zealand next month. So,Final shameless Mummy Plug (I promise)! I just realised that today is the big day! Voting for the Milky Bar Kid closes at midnight tonight! If you haven't already, please vote for our beautiful Molly-Rose Mayer-Love, she is driving us nutts! If she doesn't win, I think I might go on holiday to the Himalayas for a week whilst she grieves! lol. The link to the site to vote is here: www.milkybar.com.au and she is the second last picture on the page. Thanks guys, hopefully we will have some great news to announce come Monday when we find out who the winner is! Tan.x. Tanya Love AIPP Accredited Professional Photographer www.lovebytes.com.au www.facebook.com/LoveBytesPhoto www.loveandsoul.com.au m: 0458 006 740 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Android Camera Apps Suggestions
Huh, where did you get this - there's an Android version actually released? -Original Message- From: John Sessoms Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 5:59 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Android Camera Apps Suggestions The Photographer's Ephemeris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nook color as a photo viewer
I installed CyanogenMod 7 on my Nook Colour. Turns it into a fully functional Android (Gingerbread) tablet. Then you can choose what picture viewer/reader/etc you want to use... - Peter -Original Message- From: Larry Colen Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 7:21 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Nook color as a photo viewer On Apr 13, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Zab returned from her three month sojourn in Sleepy Hollow. While she was there she bought a nook color for her aging mom to use, as it is getting difficult for her to read regular print. In the process of using it for a few days so she could show her mom how to use it, she became so fond of it, she decided to keep it for herself and bought a second one for her mom. Now that she's home with it, I'll let her have it back in a couple of days. Seriously though, it reminds me a lot of my early experiences with my iMac in that the things it does well, it does so well, that it makes its annoyances so much more infuriating, especially since most of the limitations are just there as limitations to keep you from using it for anything that BN doesn't want you to. Photos on it look very good. Unfortunately, the gallery program is an unrepentant piece of crap. It shows all photos in one flat file, rather than letting you sort out photos by category. If I do use it to show off my photos, I'll have to start publishing them as pdfs or something. I just bought and downloaded the pdml annual, and tried looking at it on the nook. First of all, I can't rotate the book sideways in it to format it better on the screen, on top of that, I can't adjust the size of the photos. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A sensor question
Ah sorry for adding to the confusion then, I misunderstood. Interestingly, older sensors quite often used CYM sensor sites rather than RGB. There was a shift toward primary colour sensor arrays however, generally because they were considered to give more accurate representations of colours. It is an interesting question, however. There are certainly some cases where I'd trade off colour accuracy for high ISO capability; though with cameras like the K5 this is becoming less of a requirement. In an ideal world, I'd like to be able to change the bayer array electronically, even remove it for BW. But I can't see that happening. - Peter -Original Message- From: Sandy Harris Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 2:35 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: A sensor question On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Peter Loveday pe...@loveday.org wrote: That's not like any XYZ colour space transform I've ever seen? I've never heard of an XYZ colour space transform. I just used XYZ as names for what the sensor elements might be sensitive to in a different sensor design. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A sensor question
That's not like any XYZ colour space transform I've ever seen? It depends on the chromaticities of the source/target RGB space, but say for sRGB to XYZ, one would use the matrix transform: [ 0.4124564 0.3575761 0.1804375 ] [ 0.2126729 0.7151522 0.0721750 ] [ 0.0193339 0.1191920 0.9503041 ] And the reverse, XYZ-sRGB: [ 3.2404542 -1.5371385 -0.4985314 ] [ -0.9692660 1.8760108 0.0415560 ] [ 0.0556434 -0.2040259 1.0572252 ] - Peter -Original Message- From: Sandy Harris Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 2:06 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: A sensor question The usual sensor uses basically three types of element -- R, G and B -- in a particular layout. Why not X Y Z where X = R+G, Y = R+G+B, Z = G+B ? You can get RGB from XYZ easily enough: Y-X = R+G+B - R+G = B Y-Z = R+G+B - B+G = R X+Z-Y = R+G + B+G - R+G+B = R But the total light you are accepting is 2+2+3 = 7 rather than 1+1+1=3, so you are getting more photons overall. Isn't that beneficial? Y also gives you a straightforward monochrome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Lens Roadmap?
On the plus side, the lack of a roadmap gives us the opportunity for even more boundless wild speculation. :) - Peter -Original Message- From: Thibouille Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 7:58 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax Lens Roadmap? No roadmap and I do not expect one. They got burned pretty badly with theirs (60-250 anyone?) and as a small company they probably do not want to shout to everybody their next move. We'll have to to without. 2011/2/24 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: Anyone seen a recent lens roadmap? Awhile back it seems I saw something about a pending DA* 400mm.(?) Thanks! Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question about Metz 45CL4 (analog one, not the recent digitalversion) and SCA adapters
Without TTL support, I'm not really sure that it'll give you anything over using a stock SCA-301 even, on a 45 series? I don't have one of these, but I have a flock of 60CTs, and really there's little to be gained by any form of dedicated SCA with these on non-TTL capable cameras. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when itarrives...
I also would like to ask When is Spring and when will it finally get here? PDML doesn't do spring :-) Welcome! Cheers, Christine Indeed. We're more a perpetual 'winter of our discontent' type crowd :) - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Mirrorless: This is interesting
'interesting' might be one word for it. 'Not in the least bit' would be another five. At least, not to me. Now if it were APS-C... - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Now that the K-7 can do SDXC...
Can anyone think of a scenario where a 64-gigabyte card sounds like something you'd want/need? That's almost 3,000 shots on one card in RAW mode, even. Wow! Video! I wonder if they've removed the 4GB limit on video in this situation, given that SDXC (well, exFAT) doesn't have the limit. I'm guessing not, as that would be useful :-/ - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Now that the K-7 can do SDXC...
Thermal certainly comes into it, and that's likely going to be a killer anyway. But the fixed time limit is due to the 4GB file size, and is why the length varies based on resolution/quality. At full quality, full 1080p, it can only do about 5 mins before it hits 4GB. - Peter -Original Message- From: Bong Manayon Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:11 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Now that the K-7 can do SDXC... On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Peter Loveday pe...@loveday.org wrote: I wonder if they've removed the 4GB limit on video in this situation, given that SDXC (well, exFAT) doesn't have the limit. I'm guessing not, as that would be useful :-/ Is it a file size limitation? I thought it was a time limit; or thermal... Bong -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Candle
Kai thought these glowing things were fascinating at our local Christmas Carol service: http://picasaweb.google.com/loveboy/PESOs?authkey=Gv1sRgCJCsjeWRqsKHlwE#5557565728449298194 And no, he didn’t touch it :) Love, Light and Peace, - Peter Loveday -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Ya know you're old when you remember...
From: David J Brooks I quit that job to work on the ice, 1096-1971, at $1.35 and hour, which was adult minimum wage back then. Damn, that's a long time to stick at a job. Do you remember Hastings at all, or was that just before your time? :) - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Ya know you're old when you remember...
Hmm, dunno about most of that, must be US stuff :) However I just checked and my K1000 is still metal and glass :) - Peter -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Masoner Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 12:16 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT Ya know you're old when you remember... Ok, the age question thread made me start thinking how different each generation's experiences are. Mine are kind of a mismash because my parents were much older before they started their family and almost all of my cousins were old enough to be my parents. Thought it might be fun to do some comparing of stuff we remember. The Aldridge Family radio program The Shadow radio program It being safe to eat anything you got on Halloween (homemade/unwrapped/etc) Riding the go-kart down the main street in town and not getting in trouble with the police All grown ups having the authority to call you down if you acted up in public Walking home from school to eat lunch The first big CB craze (my dad bought us handheld CBs to use as walkie talkies - wow did we hear some stuff) Challenger Explosion Ronald Reagan getting shot When the K1000 was metal and glass (my first SLR) Lawn darts that had points ~Liz http://lizmasoner.wordpress.com/ http://thornsnclaws.wordpress.com/ http://photography.about.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: COMPLETELY OT! Roll Call...
Hmm, I would've been 28 I guess when I first subscribed to PDML, back when it was a real Pentax list. Now I'm 40. - Peter -Original Message- From: Tanya Love Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 1:12 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: COMPLETELY OT! Roll Call... So, it occurred to me after all these years on the list, that I may actually not be the baby of the list anymore! How sad is that?! I am getting old! So, just out of interest, was wondering if you guys would all like to post your ages so we can get a bit of a demographic round up of sorts. Sadly, I just turned 34. I was only 23 when I sent my initial email to the list back in 2000!! I had only 2 young babies at the time, now with 5 it seems so long ago! So scary to think that I can no longer be considered a junior member of the PDML! I might actually have to start offering some advice/knowledge around here rather than asking for it all the time! Tan.x. Tanya Love Photographer www.lovebytes.com.au www.facebook.com/LoveBytesPhoto www.loveandsoul.com.au m: 0458 006 740 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: COMPLETELY OT! Roll Call...
With the average age of PDMLers so far, we're already a valuable archaeological treasure. - Peter -Original Message- From: Subash Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 2:46 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: COMPLETELY OT! Roll Call... On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 12:42:32 +1000 Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: So, just out of interest, was wondering if you guys would all like to post your ages so we can get a bit of a demographic round up of sorts. as it happens, turned 48 yesterday Mark, is there a way yet of marking an entire thread? i have a feeling this thread may turn out to be of immense archaeological value to posterity... -- regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
