18/06 - World Pentax Day

[Peter Zalabai]

Pentaxforums is giving away a Limited lens for the WPD this year. Read more 
about the event at 
http://www.pentaxforums.com/World-Pentax-Day---June-18th,-2011-w/-Prize


Cheers,
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Re: Where are the rumors?

[Peter Zalabai]

Pentax is not going Full Frame, it was stated by Hoya many times.

.t
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Sullivan" 

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Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: Where are the rumors?


The 645D was next and it's making all kinds of waves of it's own.
And I'm still figuring out how to take full advantage of the K5.
I suppose the next step is a full frame sensor for the K5.
I would like a fast DFA 400 mm or even DFA 300 mm.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:06 PM,   wrote:
It's a good point. Since the K5 we've heard little speculation about 
what's next.

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Subject: Where are the rumors?

Isn't it about time for the rumors about the K5 replacement to start
appearing? The K10 had a production run of 2 years but the K20 and K7
only ran for 1 year before being replaced. On that record the K3 (?)
should be appearing soon - or at least start being talked about.

I keep looking at the K5's low light performance (the only thing I'm
not happy with in the K7). And then I think the next model should be
even better, but I hate waiting.

So where are the rumors about the next camera. What are the must have
features that will sell it? Or are we reaching the point where
advancement is slowing simply because technology can't keep up?

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Re: Peso's First IR of the season

[Peter Zalabai]

I love the house with the mailbox. Very nice IR effect and the shot is well 
framed.


Is your G3 having a clear glass or IR filter mod?

.t
- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks" 

To: "Pentax Discuss" ; "Barbara Brooks" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 8:59 PM
Subject: Peso's First IR of the season



From this past Sundays drive.

house with mailbox in IR
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13365813

Fungi fun:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13365812

Canon G3 converted. Shot in colour mode with custom WB and adjusted in
LR using WB tool and blue filter.

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Re: A little Pause

[Peter Zalabai]

Hi,

Thanks for all the comments!

The post process is mainly based my usual technique (you can read about it 
at: http://15kb.blogspot.com/2011/06/my-photoshop-routine.html ) with 3 
photo filter layers added on top of that.


Cheers,
.t

- Original Message - 
From: "Bulent Celasun" 

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Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: A little Pause



I liked the composition of this fine streeet portrait.
The background with its contributory shadows also contribute.
The post processing resembles a rather subtle HDR-like effect.
Is that it?

Bulent

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2011/6/8 Ken Waller :

Nice capture IMO.

Interesting looking fellow - hands & face particularly.


yet I really like this picture post processed this way.


What post processing are you talking about?

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Zalabai" 
Subject: PESO: A little Pause



Hi,

I had a very nice walk this Sunday at Brick Lane, London and made a 
little

candid shot of a guy having a bit of break.

Now the way I had to photo him was a bit funny as when I first stopped
next to him he was looking at me a bit unfriendly (at least that's how I
felt). So I started taking pictures at the area (signs, this and that...
whatever :D) and once he got familiar with me standing near and taking
pictures he just started to act 'normal' again... so I grabbed the
opportunity and took the picture. I've got this little tip (or trick) 
from

DigitalRev TV on Youtube and I have to say it really works :)

Well cut a long story short, the picture:
http://15kb.posterous.com/a-little-pause

The reason why I am posting the picture because I've posted it on a
hungarian forum and I got a nice e-bashing (well quite what I've 
expected
from my fellow hungarians :D) yet I really like this picture post 
processed

this way. (The picture was taken with Pentax K10D + Jupiter f2/85mm, no
flash)

What's your opinion?

All the best,
.t



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Re: Shot from GFM this year

[Peter Zalabai]

Ted,

Wish this picture would be exposure bracketed ;)

That was my idea as well, being in-camera HDR, and I still believe it would 
make a marvellous picture with a detailed post process.


That's why I never really let the camera do anything with my shots :) It's a 
kind of 'I am pressing the button and you just give me whatever comes out of 
your sensor, m'kay?' relationship between me and the camera :)


All the best,
.t
- Original Message - 
From: "Theodore Beilby" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: Shot from GFM this year



Peter

as I stated earlier, I submitted this to the contest for fun  The shot 
was
done "in camera" in my K 7 on HDR2 setting so there is not a set of 
exposures. I
did work with it a little in Lightroom but did not increase the 
saturation. I
boosted the black level and also vibrance a  little. I also boosted 
recovery and
clarity sliders. Little bit of graduated on the foreground and sky and 
that was
mostly it. I did have misgivings about the ghosting on the ridge so I did 
try to

lighten the sky to reduce that some. Thanks for your comments.

Ted
"The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer." Albert 
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Re: Where are the rumors?

[Peter Zalabai]

Well not much rumours for Pentax. There is nothing about the K-line, all the 
rumours going around are focusing on the mirrorless systems of Pentax. One 
being APS-C (I do believe the NC-1 pictures floating around is the APS-C or 
4/3 one) and one being a small sensor one (some says it's called Pentax Q) 
and one of them is rumoured to be based on the Auto 110 system (I bet that's 
the small sensor one)


The companies in focus for rumours are:
Sony - Nex C3, A35, 30mm macro lens and a new flash for the Nex are 
announced today, but there is more to come. A77, Nex 7 and one more camera 
will be announced soon, most likely the 7th of July (7/7 for the A77... 
cheeky :D)
Panasonic - G3 is out and there is a rumoured GF3 with ultra small body, few 
pictures already floating the net so it's just matter of days to get 
announced

Olympus - EPL3 and one real small camera to be announced soon
Samsung - They are the main thread in the rumor mill. NX20, NX200 and 85 
f1.4 will be announced soon. One the cameras might be a Leica M9 / Fuji X100 
like and there is a rumoured square sensor mirrorless Medium Format like 
camera-box :)
Nikon - not much, mirrorless will have smaller than 4/3 sensor (2.5-2.8x 
crop factor)

Canon - Who cares? :)
Holga - Open Source mirrorless camera project. Sounds interesting and a good 
idea.

.t
- Original Message - 
From: "Leon Altoff" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:52 PM
Subject: Where are the rumors?



Isn't it about time for the rumors about the K5 replacement to start
appearing?  The K10 had a production run of 2 years but the K20 and K7
only ran for 1 year before being replaced.  On that record the K3 (?)
should be appearing soon - or at least start being talked about.

I keep looking at the K5's low light performance (the only thing I'm
not happy with in the K7).  And then I think the next model should be
even better, but I hate waiting.

So where are the rumors about the next camera.  What are the must have
features that will sell it?  Or are we reaching the point where
advancement is slowing simply because technology can't keep up?

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PESO: A little Pause

[Peter Zalabai]

Hi,

I had a very nice walk this Sunday at Brick Lane, London and made a little 
candid shot of a guy having a bit of break.


Now the way I had to photo him was a bit funny as when I first stopped next 
to him he was looking at me a bit unfriendly (at least that's how I felt). 
So I started taking pictures at the area (signs, this and that... whatever 
:D) and once he got familiar with me standing near and taking pictures he 
just started to act 'normal' again... so I grabbed the opportunity and took 
the picture. I've got this little tip (or trick) from DigitalRev TV on 
Youtube and I have to say it really works :)


Well cut a long story short, the picture:
http://15kb.posterous.com/a-little-pause

The reason why I am posting the picture because I've posted it on a 
hungarian forum and I got a nice e-bashing (well quite what I've expected 
from my fellow hungarians :D) yet I really like this picture post processed 
this way. (The picture was taken with Pentax K10D + Jupiter f2/85mm, no 
flash)


What's your opinion?

All the best,
.t 



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Re: Shot from GFM this year

[Peter Zalabai]

Hi Ted*,

First of all, I wish all the best to your Grandson and hopefully all this 
mystery sickness will be nothing more than a fading memory soon.


The shot is good, it's well composed I like it. The moment, the framing and 
the feeling of the picture is just excellent.


But the post process is just not good for me. I feel the picture way too 
oversaturated and you have a lot of 'HDR-Glow'. There are many HDR softwares 
around, which can create nice Tone Mapped pictures from Expo-Bracketed 
shots, but I haven't found any that would do the job properly. My method for 
HDR photos is a mix of using Photomatix / Lightroom / Photoshop and the 
workflow based on the workflow of Joel Grimes (who is famous for his HDR 
backgrounded portraits) with adding my own twists.


But if you would share the original brackets (or was it in-camera HDR?) I 
would love to give it a try to post-process it.


Cheers,
.t

*Ps.: After Room 404 in the movie, Four Rooms I don't dare to call anyone 
Theodore :)




- Original Message - 
From: "Theodore Beilby" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:39 PM
Subject: Shot from GFM this year


To those interested, my Grandson is out of the hospital and doing well, 
however,
it is still a mystery as to what is affecting him. I am still in Memphis, 
Diane

is planning on coming here tomorrow. Not sure when we will head back to
Arkansas. I decided to post one of my shots from the contest.

http://tedbeilby.posterous.com/56359176

Ted
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Re: safety and photography?

[Peter Zalabai]

I had the same problem back then when me and my friend had a project to take 
pictures of homeless people. Some of them were really friendly and some of 
them were just rude. But there was one guy who was rude and agressive and he 
decided to attacked me... Luckily I had my monopod with me, a Giottos 
MM9560. For me that's the best safety device. Also works as image 
stabilisation :)


.t

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I'd be interested in knowing what safety strategies you employ when 
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Re: What is this : Kipronar f=13cm

[Peter Zalabai]

On Flickr there are some photos made with CZJ Kipronar lenses, try to 
contact one of the guys to ask the flange distance.. then you can try to 
mount it on your camera... 135 at f1.9 sounds really interesting to me :)


.t
- Original Message - 
From: "Bulent Celasun" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:03 PM
Subject: What is this : Kipronar f=13cm



Hello All,

Today I have found a Carl Zeiss Jena Kipronar 1:1,9 f=135mm "lens".
I guess this is a lens for projection devices and was built in,
perhaps, nineteen forties.
It does not seem to be coated.
No diaphragm is present. Likewise, no focusing ring...
It seems to have two elements (or, groups) at each end.
Glass seems fine.
It is 140mm long and the diameter is about 76 mm.
The middle part consists of a 88 mm- long bright (chrome?) metal.

I wonder if I can use this as anything other than a USD 20 paper weight.

Can I, perhaps, built a camera which exposes a sensitized surface via this 
lens?

Sort of a view camera?
How can I find its "flange distance", if there is one?

Any ideas?

Bulent

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Re: Workflow Quandary

[Peter Zalabai]

Hi Brian

I just read this mail now and I haven't read the replies yet :)

So basicaly I have two softwares for my workflow...
First one is the organizer and batch processer. This is Adobe Lightroom.
With LR you can create user presets for your taste, I have one for basic 
processing (little play with exposure settings), one for Black&White 
processing, one for Infrared Processing, one for Welding Glass processing, 
one for Urban Acidish processing and one for preparing for my more detailed 
Photoshop workflow. If you want I can share these presets with you.
But the main advantage of LR is the Import Photos. I organize all my photos 
by date. Each day a separate folder. You can set this up under the Import 
Photo settings panel. It just makes everything sooo simple for me :)
But to be honest there is much more in Lightroom than you can see for the 
first look. I highly recommend http://lightroomkillertips.com/ and 
http://www.presetsheaven.com/


As of the more detailed workflow I use Photoshop. There is something that 
Lightroom just not capable and it is Layers and Blending modes.
First of all I shoot in RAW. It gives soo much more room to play with 
(especially the 14 bits  RAW files)

My workflow is based on 3 layers all of them looking rubbish on it's own.
All of them starts from the prepared RAW (basic exposure settings, 0 
Highlights, Fill Lights and Blacks, and -50 on Contrast... looks really flat 
and really rubbish :D) in LR. I open the picture from Lightroom as a Smart 
Object. This is the key for detailed RAW workflow. You can open a picture as 
SO from LR by right clicking on the picture, Edit and there Open as Smart 
Object in Photoshop.
The 3 layers are quite similar and they are copies of each other (not just 
simple layer copies... it's right click on the layer and New Smart Object 
via Copy). All of them in Overlay Blending Mode. They are (from bottom to 
top):
1. The Bottom: A flat base layer to give the the very  basic setup for my 
picture. I usually set the Vibrance to +100 and I move the Clarity based on 
what I want: more softness or more 'sharpness'.
2. The Middle: A grayscale image that gives all the contrast to my image. I 
usuall not touching the Contrast setting I better play with Blacks, Fill 
Lights and a bit of Highlight Recovery. Sometimes I also put the Clarity 
high. Also to depending on the picture I change the White Balance to make 
the picture more 'flat' or more 'contrasty'
3. The Top: The Color Control Cream as I call :) This one often gets a 
Gaussian Blur (smart) filter as well. On this one I put the Vibrance down 
and the Saturation high. Also Clarity goes -100. This layer controls the 
Color Contrast in my pictures. Also it gives me a little play with the White 
Balance as it can have a warmer tone without affecting the whole picture 
drastically.


Also to increase contrast and sharpness I add 2 High Pass Layers based on 
the Grayscale layer. One of them is for finer details (High Pass +5) and the 
other one is for contrast (High Pass +25). They are in between the GrayScale 
Contrast Controller and the Color Control Cream one... of course Overlay. 
Just add them a Layer Mask and you can selective sharpen or contrast parts 
of the image.


Now the big advantage of this workflow that I can finetune each details 
separately. As I have 3 layers I can edit invidually and the mix of the 3 
gives the final results and as they are Smart Objects you can go and edit 
them any time. Obviously create an action to prepare all your workflow (If 
requested I can share my actions :D) as it can save you loads of time.


But again... what I can say look for tutorials on the internet (I liked Joel 
Grimes and Joey L) as many times you can see it's much easier than it looks 
like :)


And most importantly... explore and research... your Photoshop is your 
laboratory. Find a post process technique that works for you.


Hope it helps,
.t
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Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:51 AM
Subject: Workflow Quandary



G'day all

First - a confession.

I know it's a bit Kenny boy-ish - but I shoot mainly JPGs.

There.

I've said it.

I feel unburdened somehow.

I know I 'should' be shooting RAW and I do shoot RAW from time to time.
And it's not that I don't understand its advantages, it's just that I
struggle with the workflow.  So I'm hoping for a bit of enlightenment.

It seems to me that if you only shoot RAW, you have to have some system
in place to batch process those images. There just aren't enough hours
in the day to process each image individually.  I have CS3 and I know
that I can batch process a folder full of RAW images with Photoshop's
File > Automate > Batch command (presumably Lightroom can do something
similar), but here is where things get murky.

So - I'm interested in how others go about the process while still
retaining a measure of sanity.  A few questions, then...

Do you point your conversion

Re: When your Leica Love goes too far

[Peter Zalabai]

I find it very original :)

.t
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From: "Miserere" 

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Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 2:41 AM
Subject: When your Leica Love goes too far


This:

http://leicarumors.com/2011/05/30/his-and-hers-leica-50mm-summilux-wedding-rings.aspx/

is too far.


—M.

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PESO: Desire

[Peter Zalabai]

It's a quite old picture (2008 I believe) one of my 'early' shots with the 
K20D and the Porst f1.2 55mm.

http://15kb.posterous.com/desire

Cheers,
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Re: lens repair question

[Peter Zalabai]

Hi,

If you are happy with the lens and will use it as it is now... then don't 
touch it :)


But I do believe you can't really use the lens this way and probably a 
repair wouldn't really worth it's price if it's made by a professional. So 
you can give it a try, open it up and see if you can fix it. Most of the old 
manual lenses are not too complicated. And after all it will be a good 
experience! :)


Cheers,
.t

- Original Message - 
From: "Collin Brendemuehl" 

To: "pdml" 
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 1:19 AM
Subject: ot: lens repair question



The Vivi S1 24-70/3.8-4.8 that I picked up last weekend ...
It will not focus past about 5 ft.  The focus ring is its a stopping 
point.

I've not disassembled one of these before.
Any hints?  Or should I chalk it up to experience?

Sincerely,

Collin Brendemuehl
http://kerygmainstitute.org

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Re: OT Picture fix help

[Peter Zalabai]

Well... not much you can do for mainly 2 reasons:
1. Sharpness
The picture seems very soft... It's probably because of the age.
2. The 'texture'
That's a really challenging task to remove, I would say you might need to 
edit the picture almost pixel level and might need to re-paint some parts


I am not a retouch expert but this is what I was able to do with the 
picture:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26737283/picture0001_2.jpg

Cheers,
.t
- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks" 

To: "Pentax Discuss" 
Cc: "Godfrey" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: OT Picture fix help



A good friend of mine has a scan of an old family photo in pretty
rough shape and asked me last night if i could help fix it. I just got
the scan a few moments ago:

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/picture0001.jpg

and had a quick look. I'm not even sure i know how to go about
touching this up. I told he i would look and at least try.

Any comments or help.

She tried to send a large Tiff file but on dial up the 24mb photo
would not load so she just sent me a 2.5 MB jpg.

Any help is appreciated.

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OT/PESO: Happy Towel Day

[Peter Zalabai]

Hi,

It's the 10th Towel Day today! If you don't know what it is:
Towel Day is celebrated every 25 May as a tribute by fans of the late author 
Douglas Adams. On this day, fans carry a towel with them to demonstrate 
their love for the books and the author, as referenced in Adams's The 
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. The commemoration was first held in 2001, 
two weeks after Adams's death on 11 May 2001.


Here's my celebration PESO:
http://15kb.posterous.com/happy-towel-day

Cheers,
.t

Ps.: It's quite challenging to four-in-hand-knot tie a towel :) 



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Re: Samsung Medium Format

[Peter Zalabai]

Samsung is very very serious about the mirrorless market. They have loads of 
resource for R&D and they (almost) always had good market strategy... so I 
do hope they will release these cameras...


and a MF mirrorless... three thumbs up! :)

.timber

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:43 PM
Subject: Samsung Medium Format



This is a weird.  The picture might be for real.
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/is-the-samsung-medium-format-mirrorless-camera-coming-for-real/
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[Peter Zalabai]

Looks sooo infraredish... I love it! :)

.t
- Original Message - 
From: "Don Guthrie" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:44 PM
Subject: Winter Weeds B&W


On a rare warm Iowa February day I came upon these common weeds in the 
park. Behind the weeds was the dark shadowed underside of a bridge. I 
snapped the photo as I was walking past them to get another angle on the 
bridge. Accidental competence.


http://donspix.posterous.com/#!/

Comments & Brickbats all welcomed. Don

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"OT" : The future of photography / post process?

[Peter Zalabai]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcwm4yaom4w

Very interesting video!

.t

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PESO: Shame and Sorrow

[Peter Zalabai]

Hi,


From my latest Thames Path walk...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/5711189051/

Please be brutal with your critique as recently I feel I need a lot of 
feedback to be able to improve my photography...


Yours,
.t 



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Re: Processing high ISO images in LR3

[Peter Zalabai]

I also use the Clarity to support Noise Reduction. If I have to use very 
strong Luminance NR then I use high value for Clarity to get back some 
details. To show you the difference I just put up an example on my blog ( 
http://15kb.blogspot.com/2011/05/tip-clarity-to-support-noise-reduction.html 
).


Hope it helps,
.t

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On 5/9/11 at 3:08 PM, pentaxl...@gmail.com (Thibouille) wrote:


2011/5/9 Bruce Walker :


On 11-05-09 2:46 PM, Eric Weir wrote:
  Anyone have any suggestions for a simple processing step in Lightroom 
3 I
could apply to the collection that would improve the quality of the 
images

even slightly?


Does LR's noise reduction control have much effect on these?


Luminance and chroma NR of LR3 should render those usable.


Thanks, Thibouille, and Bruce to. These were pretty messy images, but 
these tweaks helped a bit.


In exporting for uploading I selected the "sharpen for screen" option. 
Don't have much hope that it will help much, but even a little would be 
nice in this case.


Sincerely,

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Re: PESO: (not a) Daddy Longleg

[Peter Zalabai]

> Great shot, but you had me confused by the terminology:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pholcidae

Sorry :)

As English not being my native I make mistakes and a friend of mine
(same as me... not English native) said to me that the mostquito male is
called daddy longleg. Sorry for the confusion around the name :(

Regards,
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PESO: Daddy Longleg

[Peter Zalabai]

Hi list,

It's been a while I've been posting anything here :) Mostly because I
had no time to do photos and *coughs* I had no Pentax, but Nikon for a
while (had to sell my K20D and I bought a Nikon D5000 as I had a good
bargain and also I had a spare D70s from my dad so had a couple Nikon
lenses...). As Pentax is making awesome cameras these days I got a
Pentax K-r (white one) recently (X-mass gift :D).

So dusted off my good ol' K-bayonett lenses and of course my favourite
macro photo combo: Tamron Adaptall-2 f2.5 24mm and a cheap chinese
reverse ring. Luckily I had a daddy longleg (a male mosquito) landing on
my curtain (around 3 AM...) so I had a chance to test my macro skills.

Well long story short, here's the result:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/5633693262/

C&C welcomed! :)

.timber


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Re: What was your first camera?

[Peter Zalabai]

Zeiss Ikonta C 521/2 :) I still love that 'pocket camera' :D

.t

On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 09:32 -0400, Bill Owens wrote:
> In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye with flash that used Press 25 bulbs
> 
> Bill
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Re: Tilt-shift lenses or adaptors

[Peter Zalabai]

Only the Hartblei one. The Arsat (rebranded as Arax or Photex) one is
still selling:
35mm f2.8:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Arax-Photex-2-8-35mm-TILT-SHIFT-lens-Pentax-M42-camera-/170620854199?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item27b9cb9fb7#ht_wt_1141

80mm f2.8:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Arax-Photex-2-8-80mm-TILT-SHIFT-lens-Pentax-M42-camera-/170620853126?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item27b9cb9b86#ht_1052wt_1141

And you can also find used one on Ebay sometimes...

.t

Ps.: I just made this picture today with PSix adaptor and Flektogon
50/f4, tilted at 8:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/5615919487/


On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 13:26 -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
> From: Peter Zalabai
> 
> > Not sure what's cheap for you, but you might want to have a look at the
> > Hartblei and Arsat lenses:
> > http://www.hartblei.com/lenses/general_info.htm
> >
> > In Soviet Russia the lenses tilt you! :)
> >
> > Regards,
> > .timber
> >
> 
> When you go to the price list you find the following message:
> 
> "Super-Rotator lenses are out of stock ... (please, don't ask about 
> availability - if item is available, it's mentioned in the price list)"
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Re: Tilt-shift lenses or adaptors

[Peter Zalabai]

One more thing... I've just found it:
Kipon adapters for Sony NEX-3/5 have a Nikon tilt adapter. They go
around $99. Well the only thing you need is a Sony Nex5 and a Nikon
lens :) Maybe them will be easier to borrow than a tilt-shift lens :)

Just my (another) 2 cents.

.timber

On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 19:09 +0200, Thibouille wrote:
> Thank you all.
> Definitely interesting ideas :)
> 
> I'd prefer not to use a bellow, for convenience reasons and avoid the
> freelensing (though it should be fun, I have the Tamron but in 28/2.5
> version).
> I even contemplate the possibility of using other brands cameras just
> for that purpose.
> I guess using a vue camera in studio is influencing my wishes for my
> photography.
> 
> Canon TSE lenses are insanely priced. Isn't there any other TS lenses
> for cheap? Too bad... I'd even use a CaNikon if needs to (ouch).
> 
> 2011/4/12 eckinator :
> > The Zörkendörfer MFS (Multi Focus System) might do the trick for you -
> > it is basically a tilt convertor for enlarger lenses (other lenses can
> > also be adapted but the default is M39 screwmount). They show up on
> > eBay from time to time. Expect to pay 150-250 w/o a lens. Zörk also
> > builds a shift adaptor to go with it. Problem with all aftermarket t/s
> > conversions is that you can't really shoot wide angles.
> > HTH Ecke
> > BTW you can borrow my Novoflex t/s bellows if you can afford to
> > replace/repair it should it come to that.
> >
> > 2011/4/5 Thibouille :
> >> I'm looking into getting a T/S lens.
> >> I don't care much if not Pentax or if I need an adaptor. However I
> >> care about price.
> >> Those things are usually very pricey.
> >>
> >> I might even accept a Canon lens, if it is what I need to get
> >> Tilt/shift. I know Pentax only did a Shift but no tilt.
> >>
> >> If anybody has an 'affordable' way of doing this, please speak ;)
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs
> >> --
> >> Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45,
> >> DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ
> >>   KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30
> >>   Mamiya C330+80/2.8
> >>   Sekonic L-208
> >>   FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes
> >>
> >> Laptop: Macbook 13" Unibody SnowLeo/Win7
> >>
> >> Programing: Delphi 2009
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> DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ
>   KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30
>   Mamiya C330+80/2.8
>   Sekonic L-208
>   FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes
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Re: Tilt-shift lenses or adaptors

[Peter Zalabai]

Not sure what's cheap for you, but you might want to have a look at the
Hartblei and Arsat lenses:
http://www.hartblei.com/lenses/general_info.htm

In Soviet Russia the lenses tilt you! :)

Regards,
.timber

On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 19:09 +0200, Thibouille wrote:
> Thank you all.
> Definitely interesting ideas :)
> 
> I'd prefer not to use a bellow, for convenience reasons and avoid the
> freelensing (though it should be fun, I have the Tamron but in 28/2.5
> version).
> I even contemplate the possibility of using other brands cameras just
> for that purpose.
> I guess using a vue camera in studio is influencing my wishes for my
> photography.
> 
> Canon TSE lenses are insanely priced. Isn't there any other TS lenses
> for cheap? Too bad... I'd even use a CaNikon if needs to (ouch).



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Re: Tilt-shift lenses or adaptors

[Peter Zalabai]

Lensbabies are selective focus and not tilt/shift.

My solution for tilt/shift photography are:
solution 1 - freelensing: 
if you don't mind being a bit on the wild side. My best freelensing lens
is a Tamron Adaptall-2 f2.5 24mm without any adaptor, so I can put the
lens a bit closer to the 'film' pane allowing me to focus to infinity. I
recommend the use of a tripod with this setting as the last thing you
want is to hold the lens in one hand, the camera in the other and
somehow try to fire the shutter. LOL
A sample for my free-lensing:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/4421716087/ (it was made with Nikon
D70s... please excuse my blasphemy! :D)

solution 2 - Hartblei Tilt (or shift) adapter for Pentacon 6 lenses
this setup is the easiest to use. You take an old PSix lens, like the
Carl Zeiss Flektogon f4 50mm and attach to your camera with a Tilt
adaptor. Since the PSix lenses are designed to make pictures on a 6x6 cm
'sensor' if you use them on an APSC (or even a 35mm film) then only the
middle of the 'image-circle' will be used, which is the best quality for
all lenses. Also the advantage is you don't really need to shift these
lenses to compensate the 'slide' of the 'image-circle' as you have a
loads of areas to work with.
The limitation of this system is the wide angle. As 50mm on 6x6 is
already wide angle (35mm is fisheye :D) you can't really find lenses
wider than 50mm (you can find some 35-40mm ones... for a bit too high
price). But in the other hand you can get some seriously good lenses :D
for a bargain with good picture quality, my favourite is being the Carl
Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8 which is IMHO the best portrait lens ever made
if you like to draganize your pictures as it's disturbingly sharp at
f2.8 :D (I just love this lens... sorry!) And also a one hour photoshoot
with this lens and you don't need to go to gym for a while :D
A sample with the 80mm f2.8 Biometar:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/2953220154/

So my advise:
Go for the Hartblei adaptor with a cheap Carl Zeiss Biometar 80mm f2.8
(it's smaller and cheaper, easier to use in the beginning) or a Carl
Zeiss Flektogon 50mm f4. You will get an easy to use tilt lens without
the need of shifting the lens. Also the Biometar is good to use for
portraits.
Also get a Tamron Adaptall-2 f2.5 24mm (I have the 01BB version) and try
freelensing. If you are interested in macro then get a 55mm reverse
adapter as well as this lens is one of my main extreme-macro lens as
well. 
A recent sample for it's macro capabilities. The image is not a crop,
actually I had to extend it a bit (about 10-15% on the left and bottom)
for better composition. Keep in mind that the spider is about 2-3mm in
total.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/5609939029/

Some Ebay links for you:
The PSix - PK tilt adaptor:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hartblei-Tilt-Adapter-Pentacon-Six-Lens-Pentax-/170548600701?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b57d1f7d#ht_722wt_1141

The Flektogon 50mm f4:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Zeiss-FLEKTOGON-50mm-F4-Pentacon-Six-Canon-EOS-Nikon-/150589386498?pt=UK_Photography_VintagePhotography_VintagePhotoAccessories&hash=item230fd3af02#ht_6048wt_1141

The Biometar 80mm f2.8:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CARL-ZEISS-Jena-BIOMETAR-MC-80mm-f-2-8-80-/370490133352?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item5642eecb68
as this one was the 'kit-lens' for the PSix camera I recommend looking
for one with the camera as well... usually you can get it for cheap and
hey, you get a MF camera as well!

The Tamron 24mm f2.5:
This one has 3 versions... I have the latest 01BB one.
This is the previous version 01B:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tamron-24mm-f2-5-lens-exc-adaptall-mount-choice-/390262438991?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item5add743c4f#ht_2575wt_1141
And this is the oldest version (notice the old tamron logo... my
logo/signo is based on this :D)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TAMRON-24mm-f2-5-Lens-NIKON-FE-FM-FE2-D90-D80-ETC-/170531874417?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item27b47de671#ht_1706wt_907


Hope it helps and let us see your tilt photos soon! :D

Regards,
.timber

Ps.: Back to Pentax with a white Pentax K-r! :D


On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 09:12 +0200, Thibouille wrote:
> I didn't think about those.
> Can they really replace a proper T/S lens ?
> 
> 
> 2011/4/5 AlunFoto :
> > Lensbabies?
> >
> > 2011/4/5 Thibouille :
> >> I'm looking into getting a T/S lens.
> >> I don't care much if not Pentax or if I need an adaptor. However I
> >> care about price.
> >> Those things are usually very pricey.
> >>
> >> I might even accept a Canon lens, if it is what I need to get
> >> Tilt/shift. I know Pentax only did a Shift but no tilt.
> >>
> >> If anybody has an 'affordable' way of doing this, please speak ;)
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs
> >> --
> >> Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45,
> >> DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ
> >>   KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30
> >>   Mamiya C330+80/2.8
> >>   Sekonic L-208
> >>   FalconEy

PESO: The Wheel of Time

[Peter Zalabai]

http://15kb.blogspot.com/2010/03/wheel-of-time.html

Including Behind the Scenes :)

Comments and Critiques always welcomed.

Regards,
.timber

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Re: RE: A bit OT: ND filter stacking

[Peter Zalabai]

Even the expensive B+W 10 stop filter is having this problem based on 
the experience of a friend.
The Cokin ND8 is not really considered as cheap crap :) and they made a 
'revise' on their filters called 'Digital Solutions'.
I believe these filters were made first for film cameras where this is 
not a problem.


I will stick to more expensive filters once I am ready to afford them :) 
and I am happy with the result as it opens up new possibilities in IR 
photography.


Regards,
.t

Bob W wrote:
I had a question that none of my friends could answer exactly 
(we all had our guesses :D).
What happens if you stack for example 2 ND8 filters? Will it 
be ND16 or

ND64 equivalent?

So I decided to order 2 more ND8 filters from EBay and done a 
test. But during the tests I found out that ND filters are 
not that Neutral Density as they should be...

More at my photoblog: http://15kb.blogspot.com/2010/02/nd-anomaly.html




That's probably because the ones you used are cheap crap. You'd get better
results, and more accurate density measures, using brands like Lee, B+W and
Heliopan, or the pro versions of Cokin and Hoya.

Bob



  



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A bit OT: ND filter stacking

[Peter Zalabai]

Hi list,

I had a question that none of my friends could answer exactly (we all 
had our guesses :D).
What happens if you stack for example 2 ND8 filters? Will it be ND16 or 
ND64 equivalent?


So I decided to order 2 more ND8 filters from EBay and done a test. But 
during the tests I found out that ND filters are not that Neutral 
Density as they should be...

More at my photoblog: http://15kb.blogspot.com/2010/02/nd-anomaly.html

Regards,
.timber

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Re: Re: DPReview Pentax Forum meeting @ London

[Peter Zalabai]

Now it starts to be like sending a letter to a Star Wars mailing list 
about a Star Trek meeting :)


Are the DPReview Forum guys _this_ bad? :)

.t


Cotty wrote:

On 12/2/10, Peter Zalabai, discombobulated, unleashed:

  

I just browsed the Pentax Forum @ DPReview and they will have a meeting
in London.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=34513125

If you are interested ;)



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London Camera Service advice needed

[Peter Zalabai]

Hi,

I've a faulty K10D (the aperture-arm doesn't works correctly) and a 
faulty BG-2. Could anyone give me any advice about the camera services 
in London. Which one is good and cheap? :P And most importantly... does 
it worths to repair or it will cost more than a new K-7? :)


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DPReview Pentax Forum meeting @ London

[Peter Zalabai]

Hi list,

I just browsed the Pentax Forum @ DPReview and they will have a meeting 
in London.


http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=34513125

If you are interested ;)

.timber

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Re: curing myself of Facebook

[Peter Zalabai]

The only reason I am using Facebook is because I can reach it from my 
phone. I was invited to the other 'social life' pages but I believe 
social life is better if it's lived in a pub next to a beer (or orange 
juice in my case) :)


.t

ann sanfedele wrote:
Just couldn't cope with it... email is my preferred method of 
communicating when a phone call is not possible (which is

my FAVORITE type of communication)

so for those of you who are on it,  please don't invite me back  -  
just don't want to do it


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Re: Does K20 feed video signals to video output during LV?

[Peter Zalabai]

Thank you Tim! I tought I am the only crazy man on earth who comes up 
with such an idea! :) I was also looking for small tv screens to do 
this... :) But now I feel better that I am not the only crazy one :)


You might give a try to the Zigview system as Zigview S2 might be a 
solution for you. But of course that one has it's limitations as well.


Regards,
.timber

Tim Øsleby wrote:

Thank you.
I think i could live with the bad quality for a while.
The idea is to hook it up with one of these
http://www.vosonic.com/product.php?PA=feature&kind=1&id_1=9
and use a cable release and a wide angle on tripod for some nest
photography next year. All I need is to see whats in frame.

On the other hand: I might use the bad screen quality to talk myself
into buying a K-7 :-)
Time will tell.

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2009/8/1 Peter Zalabai :
  

Tim Øsleby wrote:


Title says whats needed to say.


  

It does. Tried it already :) But quite bad quality.

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Re: Does K20 feed video signals to video output during LV?

[Peter Zalabai]

Tim Øsleby wrote:

Title says whats needed to say.

  

It does. Tried it already :) But quite bad quality.

.t

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OT: Under a Nuclear Cloud - Reportage by Gettyimages

[Peter Zalabai]

I must start with a warning. On the link below there are series of 
shocking pictures from a Nuclear Testing site, where villagers were used 
as human guinea pigs by the soviet regime to prepare for a war that 
never happened. Very nice and touching pictures and I believe they will 
shock anyone with a little social-sensitivity in their heart.


http://www.reportage-bygettyimages.com/#p=features/Under_A_Nuclear_Cloud

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OT: Two new Nikons announced

[Peter Zalabai]

Nikon D300s (HD video upgrade for the D300 with some tweaks) and the 
D3000 (it seems like a D60 upgrade to me).

More at http://dpreview.com

Can't wait a D300s vs K-7 test. I guess it would be a very even match.

Regards,
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OT: Nikon D5000 first impressions

[Peter Zalabai]

I've bought a Nikon D5000 (the replacement for the K20D) and wrote a 
small 'first impression' about it.


http://15kb.blogspot.com/2009/07/nikon-d5000-first-impressions.html

Regards,
.timber

Ps.: But I am still a pentaxian! :D Still have my K10D, using Pentax 
neckstrap and as soon I find Pentax stickers I will make my camera to be 
a Pentax D5000 :D :D :D


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PESO: Let them go first!

[Peter Zalabai]

As I only have IR camera at the moment... :)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3730661552/

More IR shots at
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=93820&id=660877839

Regards,
.timber

Ps.: anyone has any experience with the Nikon D5000? I am planning to 
buy one now (as it's quite cheap) and make it an Full Spectre camera 
later (like my FZ50)


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Re: :( K20D gone.

[Peter Zalabai]

Bob W wrote:

Wasn't Cotty raving about the Fuji a while back? It certainly looks on paper
like a good camera and worth having for £200. If you can live with 5
megapixels you can sometimes pick up an Olympus E-1 with a 14-54 (28-108)
lens for round about that price, if you keep an eye on the shops.
  
If not Pentax then only Nikon can come as a considerable choice for me. 
My reasons are a bit 'racist' :)

Canon - Hell no. I hate Canon. :D
Sony - The only Sony product I will ever buy is Playstation. :)
Olympus / Panasonic - 4/3... enough said :)
Sigma - Well... nice try but they are using their own mount and since 
Sigma is the only company making lenses for that... it's just... OUT. :D


So only Nikon stands and Fujifilm. I was reading a lot about their 
sensor technology and as I am a tech-geek (or nerd :D) it's always 
attracted me. And also keep in mind that for Nikon I already have 2 
lenses and a flash...


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:( K20D gone.

[Peter Zalabai]

Hi list,

I am a bit sad because I had to sell my K20D recently (was quite in a 
financial trouble). So now here I stand broken hearted and without a 
camera. I am thinking about to buy an older camera and so far Nikon D80 
came to my mind but recently I saw Fuji S3 Pro is going around 200 
Pounds. Do any of you have any first hand experience of this camera? I 
would like to have a Nikon based system as my father is giving me his 
unused (or less used) lens and an old Metz Flash so I only need a body :)


Regards,
.timber

Ps.: My Pentax DA 12-24 f4 is still available if anyone is thinking to 
buy one :)

Ps2.: No matter what system I use in my heart I will stay a Pentaxian :D


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Re: Oh another K-7 thread...

[Peter Zalabai]

Not conclusions, just feelings. I found very disappointing the sample 
shots on Pentax' site. I remember the old D300 sample shots that were 
shocking me and now seeing these shots to me it seems that the K-7 is 
worse than the K20D. I am not saying K-7 is bad or good but most of the 
"all other features" you mention are a, Box-Features; b, fixing 
weaknesses (marked them in your list). The VF and 100K Shutter are nice :)


I just expressed my feeling about the K-7 which was a dissapointment for 
me. I still have traces of the "I WANT ONE" fever but... oh, you know :)


And still... the sample shots on the site sucks. And _that's_ really 
disappointing.


Again... I am not here to argue, to convince or judge anything or 
anyone... I just had a feeling about the K-7, based on all the info I 
got, which I wanted to share... :) So don't take it as an offense please 
;) (Why so serious? :D)


Regards,
.timber


Thibouille wrote:

a HDR,
a contrast AF /Face detection,
* built-in level and auto level with SR,
b dampened mirror/shutter;
b fps,
b copyright credits on recorded images,
b completely new metering,
* 100% viewfinder,
* shutter certified for 100,000 actuations,
a stereo sound in video using an external mic,
b AA batteries possibility  with grip,
  



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Oh another K-7 thread...

[Peter Zalabai]

Hi list,

Sorry for opening a new K-7 thread... I just tought to share my thoughts 
with you...


So... K-7. When I first saw the pictures it was a beauty for me. The 
first thing that crossed my mind is "I MUST HAVE ONE" (yeah with 
all-caps :D). The K-7 is a very nice and very stylish camera and it 
brings back the old style when engineers designed machines with ruler 
and bows. Personally I dislike the now trendy 'everything is rounded' 
style that rules the designs nowadays (cars, computers, phones etc). 
But, oh-well, Nikon has quite similar design with D3 and D700, so it's 
not that unique, yet Pentax made it much more stylish than Nikon (IMHO).


Then as the first set of so-called-specifications came the K-7 was still 
a promising camera. 1/250 Synch and 1/8000 Shutter, Better AF, HD-Video, 
AF Assist light, etc. All in all the K-7 was the nice big red balloon 
that everyone wants :)


But as time passed by the specifications turned to be false or 
not-that-nice. 1/250 went back to 1/180, Better AF -like the sensor- is 
just an Improved (but same) SAFOX VII, HD-Video is "only" 720 lines and 
motion JPEG...


And now the test shots on the official page... Terrible. First the 
girl... totally lacks sharpness for me and well the dynamic range of the 
photo seems to me not that awesome. Then same applies to almost all 
shots. And in the end the last shot made with the 12-24. Terrible CA. 
One of the new features is the CA correction and this how they market it?


So all in all I am very disappointed with the K-7 as the "new" flagship 
model. It's nothing more just the K20D with a class-closing (or how 
should I call the opposite of class leading? :D) HD video feature and 
tweaked features. The nice big red balloon seems to be popped out...


But don't get me wrong... I still love the K20D and the Pentax Side of 
Life :)


Regards,
.timber

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Re: K7 HD video

[Peter Zalabai]

Nice video (but I liked Laforet's videos better.. links below) but keep 
in mind 2+1 things:
EOS 5D MKII is Full Frame. Better DOF, Better Dynamics, Better Noise 
handling.

EOS 5D MKII is Full HD (1080) while K-7 is "only" 720 lines
Nikon D90 has HD-video as well... but it sucks with it's wobbling problem

So while HD Video is a nice feature it still can be screwed :)

.timber

Ps.: And now for the links:
Laforet's videos:
http://vincentlaforet.smugmug.com/Laforet%20Videos (see Reverie)
Nikon's wobbling:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcycneFY9lw


Cotty wrote:

I dare say that with the advent of HD video on the K7 we'll see a few of
you trying out your hand. Here's an example of a 5DmII with a Zeiss
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Re: UK - 27. May - 1. June, anyone?

[Peter Zalabai]

Depends how I get my off-day... :) Keep me updated!

.t

Rick Womer wrote:

Sunday may be possible; stay tuned.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


--- On Mon, 5/18/09, AlunFoto  wrote:

  

I have a two-day meeting in London
28.-29. May. Will arrive in the
afternoon the 27., and could extend the stay over the
week-end if
anyone's interested in saying hello. I'm restricted to
London for the
afternoons on the weekdays, but could travel for the
week-end, of
course.

Jostein


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Re: DA* 60-250 arrived

[Peter Zalabai]

Congrats Paul! Can't wait to see pictures with your new 'toy'. :)

Regards,
.timber

paul stenquist wrote:
It showed up just before dark, and I only played with it a bit. But it 
has a wonderful feel. Zero wobble when extended. Solid as a rock.I 
noticed that with the K20d and battery grip, it seems to balance 
perfectly on the tripod foot.


 I shot a bit. The bokeh looks fabulous. First impression is that 
autofocus is right on, and the focus field appears to be flat. I'll 
check that more carefully tomorrow. Perhaps I'll even make a few 
photographs.

Paul

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Re: Pentax Ad Copy FAIL

[Peter Zalabai]

Guerilla Marketing is quite effective way to get attraction by using the 
power of internet and the thousands of 'fun blogs' and 'fun picture 
sites' or YouTube (remember the old, a bit offensive and racist VW Polo 
ad -see link below- that of course wasn't made by Volkswagen? Or was it? :D)


Regards,
.timber

ps.: the ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arfNofxBtfY

P. J. Alling wrote:

Who says this wasn't?



And it'll probably attract more notice that a correct ad would have.

I really wonder how long it will be until companies start making these
kinds of errors on purpose in order to attract attention.



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