Re: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in Italy)

2003-10-17 Thread Cotty
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 Don't forget your Dremmel...
 
 You know what? I would love one of those. It's something I've always
 wanted but just never gotten around to buying. 

You want one of us to drop your wife an email in time for Christmas
shopping?

LOL. She would groan !


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Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-16 Thread Jostein
Quoting Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 This proves the Netherlands is much much older, since it is all worn
 down to less then 50 meters.

LOL.
How deep must you dig in the Netherlands to reach solid rock? :-)

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RE: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in Italy)

2003-10-16 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Seems like I will definitely have to bring the screwmount collection I have.
Someone has to bring you techie-weenies back down to earth :-)

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

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RE: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in Italy)

2003-10-16 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Wait a minute now, I was always looked at strangely at NPW because I was the
one taking shots of the people not as dedicated to the nature shots!  I
think even Christian commented on this at a DC PDML at a park...

Hmmm, first he takes my bed, now he is going to be taking non-nature shots.
Good thing I don't have a girlfriend... :-)

Definitely looking forward to the what looks to be a great PDML gathering at
GFM!!!

But can overlook it all for a few gottles of geer;

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

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RE: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in Italy)

2003-10-16 Thread Cotty
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Seems like I will definitely have to bring the screwmount collection I have.

..and I'll bring a small hacksaw, file, and a big grin!


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Re: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in Italy)

2003-10-16 Thread Bill Owens
 Hmmm, first he takes my bed, now he is going to be taking non-nature
shots.
 Good thing I don't have a girlfriend... :-)

Look on the bright side.  You've still got a bed, and be thankful he's not
taking your bed and girlfriend at the same time

 Definitely looking forward to the what looks to be a great PDML gathering
at
 GFM!!!

Yeah, it's going to be a real hoot!

 But can overlook it all for a few gottles of geer;

I'll drink to that!

Bill




RE: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in Italy)

2003-10-16 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Those are fighting words :-)

But as well built as they are I think they can defend themselves...

This should be an interesting trip,

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

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Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-16 Thread Frits Wüthrich
Up to a few centimeters above sea level.


On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 21:54, graywolf wrote:
 How high do they have to climb to the beach (grin)?
 
 
 Jostein wrote:
  Quoting Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
  
 This proves the Netherlands is much much older, since it is all worn
 down to less then 50 meters.
  
  
  LOL.
  How deep must you dig in the Netherlands to reach solid rock? :-)
  
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Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-16 Thread Jostein

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 How high do they have to climb to the beach (grin)?


Strictly speaking, the geological formations in Netherlands are mostly
sediments, IOW a very recent formation. Not very old at all. More like a
mountain waiting to happen, really.

g, d,  r

Jostein



Re: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in Italy)

2003-10-16 Thread cbwaters
Don't forget your Dremmel...
Cory
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 Seems like I will definitely have to bring the screwmount collection I
have.

 ..and I'll bring a small hacksaw, file, and a big grin!


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Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-16 Thread Bill Owens
IIRC, the European and North American plates are separating at about 1
inch/year, and the Rocky Mountains are still growing due to subduction of
the Pacific plate beneath the Western North American plate.  Pal, correct me
if I'm wrong.

Bill

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  How high do they have to climb to the beach (grin)?
 

 Strictly speaking, the geological formations in Netherlands are mostly
 sediments, IOW a very recent formation. Not very old at all. More like a
 mountain waiting to happen, really.

 g, d,  r

 Jostein






Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-16 Thread Frits Wüthrich
Just keep digging till we get to the mountains of Australia.

On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 11:04, Jostein wrote:
 Quoting Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  This proves the Netherlands is much much older, since it is all worn
  down to less then 50 meters.
 
 LOL.
 How deep must you dig in the Netherlands to reach solid rock? :-)
 
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Re: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in Italy)

2003-10-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

Don't forget your Dremmel...

You know what? I would love one of those. It's something I've always
wanted but just never gotten around to buying. Actually they are quite
expensive, no? I might look at eBay for one...

And of course I'll need a belt holster for it. LOL.

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Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-15 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 15 Oct 2003, Frits Wüthrich wrote:

 Yesterday I asked my photoshop around the corner here in the
 Netherlands, and they ask 2199 euro's for it, ridiculous.
 I have one on order with Peter from sunny Brighton since 16 Sept, but he
 doesn't respond to me when I requested him for a status update. I wonder
 if he got fed up with my questions or is just too busy trying to get
 hold of one for me?
 
 Does anyone have experience with New York Camera in Germany?
 http://www.ny-camera.net/language/english/index.htm
 
Well, you could consider small and cheap trip to Poland - here *istD is 
1850 Euro, but you could probably use TAXfree formular and get back about 
15% (I am not sure of exact value) off this price - that would be about 
1600 Euro. 

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Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-15 Thread Dag T
onsdag, 15. oktober 2003, kl. 02:23, graywolf:

Did you guys know that they claim the Appalachians are the oldest 
mountains in the world. They say they averaged 25,000 feet when they 
were young and now are worn down to mostly less than 6,000.
They say the same about parts of Scotland and Norway, but I guess that 
i correct.  They were parts of the same mountain range long ago, before 
the Atlantic ocean was made...

:-)

DagT



Re: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in Italy)

2003-10-15 Thread Bill Owens
If you want a driver for your computer, the printer I'll be bringing is an
Epson 925.

Bill

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Subject: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in Italy)


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 And I plan on having a printer to print some of these digi files.

 Are you bringing a computer? If not, let me know which printer and I'll
 make sure I have the appropriate driver installed...


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Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-15 Thread graywolf
Ya, I keep telling the ATA that they need to extend the trail the rest of the way. The say the bridge would cost too much (grin).



Dag T wrote:

onsdag, 15. oktober 2003, kl. 02:23, graywolf:

Did you guys know that they claim the Appalachians are the oldest 
mountains in the world. They say they averaged 25,000 feet when they 
were young and now are worn down to mostly less than 6,000.


They say the same about parts of Scotland and Norway, but I guess that i 
correct.  They were parts of the same mountain range long ago, before 
the Atlantic ocean was made...

:-)

DagT


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Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-15 Thread Frits Wüthrich
This proves the Netherlands is much much older, since it is all worn
down to less then 50 meters.


On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 18:12, Dag T wrote:
 onsdag, 15. oktober 2003, kl. 02:23, graywolf:
 
  Did you guys know that they claim the Appalachians are the oldest 
  mountains in the world. They say they averaged 25,000 feet when they 
  were young and now are worn down to mostly less than 6,000.
 
 They say the same about parts of Scotland and Norway, but I guess that 
 i correct.  They were parts of the same mountain range long ago, before 
 the Atlantic ocean was made...
 
 :-)
 
 DagT
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Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-15 Thread Cotty
Waddya expect with all those bicycles!


This proves the Netherlands is much much older, since it is all worn
down to less then 50 meters.


On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 18:12, Dag T wrote:
 onsdag, 15. oktober 2003, kl. 02:23, graywolf:
 
  Did you guys know that they claim the Appalachians are the oldest 
  mountains in the world. They say they averaged 25,000 feet when they 
  were young and now are worn down to mostly less than 6,000.
 
 They say the same about parts of Scotland and Norway, but I guess that 
 i correct.  They were parts of the same mountain range long ago, before 
 the Atlantic ocean was made...
 




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*IstD price in Italy

2003-10-14 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Hi everybody,

I just checked the Italian importer website.
The list price of the *IstD is Euro 2299 (roughly US$ 2700).

Needless to say I'm not exactly happy about that...

Ciao,

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Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-14 Thread bucky
How much duty is charged on cameras imported to Italy?  You can buy the *istD 
here in Vancovuer for CDN$2199 (about USD$1640) without even bargaining very 
hard.  You could have it shipped with insurance; unless duty is exceedingly 
high, you'd save a bundle.

I will put you in touch with the dealer from whom I'm buying mine if you wish.

Cheers,

Mike

Quoting Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi everybody,
 
 I just checked the Italian importer website.
 The list price of the *IstD is Euro 2299 (roughly US$ 2700).
 
 Needless to say I'm not exactly happy about that...
 
 Ciao,
 
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Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-14 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How much duty is charged on cameras imported to Italy?  You
can buy the *istD 
 here in Vancovuer for CDN$2199 (about USD$1640) without even
bargaining very 
 hard.  You could have it shipped with insurance; unless duty
is exceedingly 
 high, you'd save a bundle.
 
 I will put you in touch with the dealer from whom I'm buying
mine if you wish.
 

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the offer. I guess I'll do something of that kinb as
soon as I'm able to purchase it (I already am, financially
speaking at least, but I'm waiting to hold one in my hands).
I'm a bit afraid that the customs duties are quite high by now
(they recently started to add duties even on used products every
now and then - I almost quit looking on eBay items in North
America for that). The usual duties are the VAT (20%) and the
import toll (dunno the exact amount, around 24%, maybe more). I
should still save something that way, though.

Ciao,

Gianfranco

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Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-14 Thread Dario Bonazza 2
Italian import taxes are as follows (regardless new or used items):

20% VAT
4% customs duties
a few euros for extra costs I don't know remember.

So the due total is around 25% of item+shipping (yes, those taxes are
calculated on shipping costs too).

And don't forget the shipping cost itself, to be added to the item price.

Dario

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: *IstD price in Italy


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  How much duty is charged on cameras imported to Italy?  You
 can buy the *istD
  here in Vancovuer for CDN$2199 (about USD$1640) without even
 bargaining very
  hard.  You could have it shipped with insurance; unless duty
 is exceedingly
  high, you'd save a bundle.
 
  I will put you in touch with the dealer from whom I'm buying
 mine if you wish.
 

 Hi Mike,

 Thanks for the offer. I guess I'll do something of that kinb as
 soon as I'm able to purchase it (I already am, financially
 speaking at least, but I'm waiting to hold one in my hands).
 I'm a bit afraid that the customs duties are quite high by now
 (they recently started to add duties even on used products every
 now and then - I almost quit looking on eBay items in North
 America for that). The usual duties are the VAT (20%) and the
 import toll (dunno the exact amount, around 24%, maybe more). I
 should still save something that way, though.

 Ciao,

 Gianfranco

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Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

Sounds like you need to take a trip to NA and buy one here.  Grandfather
Mountain perhaps?

The place will be awash with *ist D's !

I intend to bring along most of my stuff - I'll be metering the scene
with the digi and exposing some 'film' I believe they call it on a black
MX. I'll bring just 2 lenses with the MX - Tokina 17mm 3.5 and a Tokina
90mm 2.5 macro.

But I hope to cart away a PowerBook full of digital pics :-)


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Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-14 Thread Bill Owens
And I plan on having a printer to print some of these digi files.

Bill

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Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: *IstD price in Italy


 On 14/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
 
 Sounds like you need to take a trip to NA and buy one here.  Grandfather
 Mountain perhaps?
 
 The place will be awash with *ist D's !
 
 I intend to bring along most of my stuff - I'll be metering the scene
 with the digi and exposing some 'film' I believe they call it on a black
 MX. I'll bring just 2 lenses with the MX - Tokina 17mm 3.5 and a Tokina
 90mm 2.5 macro.
 
 But I hope to cart away a PowerBook full of digital pics :-)
 
 
 Cheers,
   Cotty
 
 
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Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-14 Thread graywolf
You will enjoy it.

Did you guys know that they claim the Appalachians are the oldest 
mountains in the world. They say they averaged 25,000 feet when they 
were young and now are worn down to mostly less than 6,000.

Not very good fall photography here this year as the leaves are green 
one day, turn the next, and gone the day after. You drive through the 
mountains and see about an equal mix of green, bright, and bare trees. 
Must be all the rain. But the rain is supposed to be pretty normal as 
this area has the second highest rainfall in the US. There has been a 
drought the last few years though.

Mountain trivia brought to you by contributions from the kind folks on 
the PDML. :)



Cotty wrote:

On 14/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:


Sounds like you need to take a trip to NA and buy one here.  Grandfather
Mountain perhaps?


The place will be awash with *ist D's !

I intend to bring along most of my stuff - I'll be metering the scene
with the digi and exposing some 'film' I believe they call it on a black
MX. I'll bring just 2 lenses with the MX - Tokina 17mm 3.5 and a Tokina
90mm 2.5 macro.
But I hope to cart away a PowerBook full of digital pics :-)

Cheers,
  Cotty
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