Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-19 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:53 PM, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action magazine about a month ago.
 The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show a pic. Another frame from the
 shoot is going on the cover, so I'll hold off on showing that.

 The car itself is quite remarkable. It's a basically stock Dodge Challenger
 with a different third member and a slightly modified 6.1 liter version of
 their hemi engine. You can buy it from the factory on special order. It's
 engineered for drag racine. i photographed it during prototype testing, so I
 couldn't choose the time of day for best light. This shot was in early
 afternoon. Performance? The car ran 10.01 at 132 mph in a quarter mile.
 That's faster than any exotic you can buy today. Not bad for a basically
 off-the-shelf piece of Detroit iron.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg

It's gone!

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Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/11/08, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg

It's gone!

They said it was a fast car

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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-16 Thread Carlos Royo



Cotty escribió:

On 15/11/08, Carlos Royo, discombobulated, unleashed:


Was the SR on? The manuals in Pentax cameras advise against using SR in
panning shots, as it can malfunction and cause strange effects.


What? Pentax SR does not have *2 modes* like 'all-your-eggs-in-one-
basket' Canon IS lenses do?!?!?




I think it is the usual disclaimer, in case you find any problems. I 
haven't seen such problem in real photography with my K10D, but who knows...


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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-16 Thread PN Stenquist

I use the IR remote:-).

On Nov 16, 2008, at 1:03 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

If you do forget to turn the SR off, then don't forget to bump the  
tripod as you release the shutter.



:-))

Joseph McAllister
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On Nov 15, 2008, at 18:38 , Christine Aguila wrote:

And same here.  Gosh.  I didn't even know I should be turning if  
off for panning.  I know about shutting it off when using a tripod,  
but I forget to do that too.  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - From: Ken Waller  
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Same here.


- Original Message - From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



I leave it on when panning. I've also left it on mistakenly when   
shooting off a tripod. Doesn't seem to make a difference there  
either,  although I try to remember to turn it off.










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Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-16 Thread Brendan MacRae
Holy moly. That's fast. I worked for a time at a Dodge
dealership in San Diego. Ralph Pearson, the old sand
dragger, was a servicewriter there. His son, Ralph,
Jr., had a 1967 Belvedere with an aluminum block 440,
dual Holly 4-barrel double pumpers with nitrous. It
was a door slammer but it was all decked out with
wheel tubs, fuel cell and a parachute. He used to run
the car at Carlsbad all the time. That car never ran a
10 flat.

That's one fast Mopar. Nice shot, too ;-]

-Brendan
--- PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action
 magazine about a month  
 ago. The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show
 a pic. Another  
 frame from the shoot is going on the cover, so I'll
 hold off on  
 showing that.
 
 The car itself is quite remarkable. It's a basically
 stock Dodge  
 Challenger with a different third member and a
 slightly modified 6.1  
 liter version of their hemi engine. You can buy it
 from the factory on  
 special order. It's engineered for drag racine. i
 photographed it  
 during prototype testing, so I couldn't choose the
 time of day for  
 best light. This shot was in early afternoon.
 Performance? The car ran  
 10.01 at 132 mph in a quarter mile. That's faster
 than any exotic you  
 can buy today. Not bad for a basically off-the-shelf
 piece of Detroit  
 iron.
 

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg
 
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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-16 Thread Christine Aguila

HAR!  :-)


- Original Message - 
From: Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]



If you do forget to turn the SR off, then don't forget to bump the  
tripod as you release the shutter.


On Nov 15, 2008, at 18:38 , Christine Aguila wrote:

And same here.  Gosh.  I didn't even know I should be turning if off  
for panning.  I know about shutting it off when using a tripod, but  
I forget to do that too.  Cheers, Christine




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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-15 Thread Cotty
On 14/11/08, PN Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

I don't know for certain what caused the front halo. But I have an
idea, and I'll tell you what I think after those who want to respond
have had a chance.

It precedes the air intake and also follows the rear roof...


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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-15 Thread Cotty
On 14/11/08, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

Looks to me like you were panning during the shot, and your panning
wasn't quite perfectly in sync ... 99 + 44/100% perfect, but not
absolutely PERFECT perfect.

Then why is it perfectly sharp with the livery? The writing on the side
is perfect.

Did Paul use flash?

If he did it might be a similar effect as this:

http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/photoessays/essays/footytricks.html



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Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-15 Thread Cotty
On 14/11/08, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:

It airs on BBC America, but I don't think they're the current series;
several of the most recently-shown programs appear to be from 2007.

Here's an excerpt from YouTube - the final bit where they speed test on
the salt flats:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RodkxBEdnXo

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Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-15 Thread drew

I liked the original, but this is great.

Drew.




PN Stenquist wrote:

Here's a version with the halo cloned out.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8227424size=lg


On Nov 14, 2008, at 8:28 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:


PN Stenquist wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg


Hmmm, I could clone the halo out. It's due to a shadow in the rear. 
Don't know what caused it in front. I thought it contributed to the 
sensation of motion, but perhaps it's distracting.


Well, different viewers see things differently, and I could easily be 
an outlier from the curve. :-)  When initially viewing the photo, I 
interpreted it as something that'd been added in post, which I now 
know to be wrong.


I'm not sure either what could have caused that effect.  If the rest 
wasn't well focused, I'd wonder if it came from a slight change in the 
zoom setting on the lens.  I think the Pz-1 cameras could do that 
automatically with the Power Zoom lenses.  On closer inspection, it 
looks like motion blur from slight changes in panning speed, but 
that's contradicted by the sharpness of the car's body and the lack of 
similar halos on the interior parts of the car's image.


I had a somewhat similar shot from the Petit le Mans this year.  On 
mine there were two well focused images just maybe 20 or 30 pixels 
apart horizontally.  I finally decided that what'd happened was I'd 
had a hitch in my panning where I either sped up or slowed down with 
relation to the car momentarily, but otherwise tracked it accurately. 
I'll see if I can find it and post an excerpt.


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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-15 Thread John Sessoms

From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 14/11/08, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:


Looks to me like you were panning during the shot, and your panning
wasn't quite perfectly in sync ... 99 + 44/100% perfect, but not
absolutely PERFECT perfect.


Then why is it perfectly sharp with the livery? The writing on the side
is perfect.



Because the Circle of Confusion is small enough?


Did Paul use flash?


Could be. It appears to be lit from in front of the car. Looks like a 
shadow behind rear of the car. Big soft box camera left?


Perhaps that darker gray streak on the ground is a pneumatic trigger 
like service stations used to use to ring a bell when you drove in; 
blurred by the panning.


Wouldn't take much to rig a switch to trip the strobe when the front 
tires hit it and the strobe would fire when the car was exactly in that 
position, while dragging the shutter.


Blur front and rear is from the panning  the sharp image is from the 
strobe.





If he did it might be a similar effect as this:

http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/photoessays/essays/footytricks.html


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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-15 Thread PN Stenquist

No flash here.
Paul
On Nov 15, 2008, at 12:27 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote:



On Nov 14, 2008, at 17:27 , PN Stenquist wrote:

I don't know for certain what caused the front halo. But I have an  
idea, and I'll tell you what I think after those who want to  
respond have had a chance.

Paul


I think that the shutter was open for x amount of time and began to  
record the car's image as you panned, then the flash went off and  
finished the exposure of the car, then the shutter closed. Panning  
was imperfect, leaving a transparent image of the car front and rear.


Am I close?



On Nov 14, 2008, at 8:22 PM, Ken Waller wrote:


Nicely captured PAul.

What's that going on at the front end - looks like cloud build up?


Joseph McAllister
Lots of gear, not much time


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Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-15 Thread David J Brooks
Thats a good shot Paul.

Dave

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:53 PM, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action magazine about a month ago.
 The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show a pic. Another frame from the
 shoot is going on the cover, so I'll hold off on showing that.

 The car itself is quite remarkable. It's a basically stock Dodge Challenger
 with a different third member and a slightly modified 6.1 liter version of
 their hemi engine. You can buy it from the factory on special order. It's
 engineered for drag racine. i photographed it during prototype testing, so I
 couldn't choose the time of day for best light. This shot was in early
 afternoon. Performance? The car ran 10.01 at 132 mph in a quarter mile.
 That's faster than any exotic you can buy today. Not bad for a basically
 off-the-shelf piece of Detroit iron.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg

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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/11/08, PN Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

No flash here.

Flash git ;-)

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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-15 Thread Carlos Royo



PN Stenquist escribió:
I don't know for certain what caused the front halo. But I have an idea, 
and I'll tell you what I think after those who want to respond have had 
a chance.

Paul
On Nov 14, 2008, at 8:22 PM, Ken Waller wrote:


Was the SR on? The manuals in Pentax cameras advise against using SR in 
panning shots, as it can malfunction and cause strange effects.


Carlos

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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-15 Thread Ken Waller

It precedes the air intake and also follows the rear roof...


I know - it was approaching the speed of sound and what is shown is 
compressed moisture in the air - talk about fast!


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package



On 14/11/08, PN Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:


I don't know for certain what caused the front halo. But I have an
idea, and I'll tell you what I think after those who want to respond
have had a chance.


It precedes the air intake and also follows the rear roof...


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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-15 Thread Jack Davis
A common Blue Angels phenomenon. 8-O

Jack


--- On Sat, 11/15/08, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Date: Saturday, November 15, 2008, 8:39 AM
  It precedes the air intake and also follows the rear
 roof...
 
 I know - it was approaching the speed of sound and what is
 shown is 
 compressed moisture in the air - talk about fast!
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package
 
 
  On 14/11/08, PN Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 I don't know for certain what caused the front
 halo. But I have an
 idea, and I'll tell you what I think after
 those who want to respond
 have had a chance.
 
  It precedes the air intake and also follows the rear
 roof...
 
 
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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/11/08, Carlos Royo, discombobulated, unleashed:

Was the SR on? The manuals in Pentax cameras advise against using SR in
panning shots, as it can malfunction and cause strange effects.

What? Pentax SR does not have *2 modes* like 'all-your-eggs-in-one-
basket' Canon IS lenses do?!?!?


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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-15 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 15/11/08, Carlos Royo, discombobulated, unleashed:

Was the SR on? The manuals in Pentax cameras advise against using SR in
panning shots, as it can malfunction and cause strange effects.

 What? Pentax SR does not have *2 modes* like 'all-your-eggs-in-one-
 basket' Canon IS lenses do?!?!?

As do Nikon.:-)

Dave


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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-15 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 09:06:29PM +, Cotty wrote:
 On 15/11/08, Carlos Royo, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Was the SR on? The manuals in Pentax cameras advise against using SR in
 panning shots, as it can malfunction and cause strange effects.
 
 What? Pentax SR does not have *2 modes* like 'all-your-eggs-in-one-
 basket' Canon IS lenses do?!?!?

Nope.  But I've never found that to be a problem, and routinely leave
SR on when panning with my K10D.  There again, I can't find anything
in the manual to suggest turning off SR while panning, either - just
when the camera is mounted on a tripod.

There was quite a lot of discussion of this around the time the K10D
was released, both here and on dpreview.  The general opinion was that
the Pentax firmware seemed to handle panning situations just fine.


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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-15 Thread PN Stenquist
I leave it on when panning. I've also left it on mistakenly when  
shooting off a tripod. Doesn't seem to make a difference there either,  
although I try to remember to turn it off.

Paul
On Nov 15, 2008, at 6:02 PM, John Francis wrote:


On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 09:06:29PM +, Cotty wrote:

On 15/11/08, Carlos Royo, discombobulated, unleashed:

Was the SR on? The manuals in Pentax cameras advise against using  
SR in

panning shots, as it can malfunction and cause strange effects.


What? Pentax SR does not have *2 modes* like 'all-your-eggs-in-one-
basket' Canon IS lenses do?!?!?


Nope.  But I've never found that to be a problem, and routinely leave
SR on when panning with my K10D.  There again, I can't find anything
in the manual to suggest turning off SR while panning, either - just
when the camera is mounted on a tripod.

There was quite a lot of discussion of this around the time the K10D
was released, both here and on dpreview.  The general opinion was that
the Pentax firmware seemed to handle panning situations just fine.


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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-15 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 6:21 PM, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I leave it on when panning. I've also left it on mistakenly when shooting
 off a tripod. Doesn't seem to make a difference there either, although I try
 to remember to turn it off.
 Paul

Don't tell that to the doom and gloom forum

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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-15 Thread Joseph McAllister


On Nov 15, 2008, at 14:37 , David J Brooks wrote:


On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 15/11/08, Carlos Royo, discombobulated, unleashed:

Was the SR on? The manuals in Pentax cameras advise against using  
SR in

panning shots, as it can malfunction and cause strange effects.


What? Pentax SR does not have *2 modes* like 'all-your-eggs-in-one-
basket' Canon IS lenses do?!?!?


As do Nikon.:-)

Dave



Pentaxians don't want to pay the extra $1000 to have that  
feature...:-)



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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-15 Thread Ken Waller

Same here.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

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Subject: Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package


I leave it on when panning. I've also left it on mistakenly when  shooting 
off a tripod. Doesn't seem to make a difference there either,  although I 
try to remember to turn it off.

Paul
On Nov 15, 2008, at 6:02 PM, John Francis wrote:


On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 09:06:29PM +, Cotty wrote:

On 15/11/08, Carlos Royo, discombobulated, unleashed:

Was the SR on? The manuals in Pentax cameras advise against using  SR 
in

panning shots, as it can malfunction and cause strange effects.


What? Pentax SR does not have *2 modes* like 'all-your-eggs-in-one-
basket' Canon IS lenses do?!?!?


Nope.  But I've never found that to be a problem, and routinely leave
SR on when panning with my K10D.  There again, I can't find anything
in the manual to suggest turning off SR while panning, either - just
when the camera is mounted on a tripod.

There was quite a lot of discussion of this around the time the K10D
was released, both here and on dpreview.  The general opinion was that
the Pentax firmware seemed to handle panning situations just fine.


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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-15 Thread Doug Franklin

PN Stenquist wrote:
I leave it on when panning. I've also left it on mistakenly when 
shooting off a tripod. Doesn't seem to make a difference there either, 
although I try to remember to turn it off.



On Nov 15, 2008, at 6:02 PM, John Francis wrote:

There was quite a lot of discussion of this around the time the K10D
was released, both here and on dpreview.  The general opinion was that
the Pentax firmware seemed to handle panning situations just fine.


I leave it on when panning, too, and haven't noticed any particular 
problems with doing so.  In fact, it seems to smooth out any vertical 
movement while I'm panning.  Hard to tell if it's doing good or bad in 
the horizontal direction.


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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-15 Thread Christine Aguila
And same here.  Gosh.  I didn't even know I should be turning if off for 
panning.  I know about shutting it off when using a tripod, but I forget to 
do that too.  Cheers, Christine



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Same here.


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I leave it on when panning. I've also left it on mistakenly when  shooting 
off a tripod. Doesn't seem to make a difference there either,  although I 
try to remember to turn it off.




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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-15 Thread Joseph McAllister
If you do forget to turn the SR off, then don't forget to bump the  
tripod as you release the shutter.



:-))

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On Nov 15, 2008, at 18:38 , Christine Aguila wrote:

And same here.  Gosh.  I didn't even know I should be turning if off  
for panning.  I know about shutting it off when using a tripod, but  
I forget to do that too.  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - From: Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Same here.


- Original Message - From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



I leave it on when panning. I've also left it on mistakenly when   
shooting off a tripod. Doesn't seem to make a difference there  
either,  although I try to remember to turn it off.










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PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-14 Thread PN Stenquist
I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action magazine about a month  
ago. The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show a pic. Another  
frame from the shoot is going on the cover, so I'll hold off on  
showing that.


The car itself is quite remarkable. It's a basically stock Dodge  
Challenger with a different third member and a slightly modified 6.1  
liter version of their hemi engine. You can buy it from the factory on  
special order. It's engineered for drag racine. i photographed it  
during prototype testing, so I couldn't choose the time of day for  
best light. This shot was in early afternoon. Performance? The car ran  
10.01 at 132 mph in a quarter mile. That's faster than any exotic you  
can buy today. Not bad for a basically off-the-shelf piece of Detroit  
iron.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg

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Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-14 Thread Jack Davis
Wonderful, Paul. They should be very pleased. Maybe you can find time to post 
the cover shot when that embargo is lifted.(?)

Jack


--- On Fri, 11/14/08, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 2:53 PM
 I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action magazine about
 a month ago. The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show
 a pic. Another frame from the shoot is going on the cover,
 so I'll hold off on showing that.
 
 The car itself is quite remarkable. It's a basically
 stock Dodge Challenger with a different third member and a
 slightly modified 6.1 liter version of their hemi engine.
 You can buy it from the factory on special order. It's
 engineered for drag racine. i photographed it during
 prototype testing, so I couldn't choose the time of day
 for best light. This shot was in early afternoon.
 Performance? The car ran 10.01 at 132 mph in a quarter mile.
 That's faster than any exotic you can buy today. Not bad
 for a basically off-the-shelf piece of Detroit iron.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg
 
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RE: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-14 Thread Bob W
 It's engineered for drag racine.

that's surprising. I wouldn't have thought Dodge were particularly interested in
17th century French playwrights who respected the classical unities. And I'm
astonished to learn that he, a Jansenist, liked to dress in women's clothing. He
seemed like such a nice man.

Qui te l'a dit? as Hermione so famously asked.

Bob

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 Behalf Of PN Stenquist
 Sent: 14 November 2008 22:54
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 Subject: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package
 
 I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action magazine about 
 a month ago. The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show a 
 pic. Another frame from the shoot is going on the cover, so 
 I'll hold off on showing that.
 
 The car itself is quite remarkable. It's a basically stock 
 Dodge Challenger with a different third member and a slightly 
 modified 6.1 liter version of their hemi engine. You can buy 
 it from the factory on special order. It's engineered for 
 drag racine. i photographed it during prototype testing, so I 
 couldn't choose the time of day for best light. This shot was 
 in early afternoon. Performance? The car ran
 10.01 at 132 mph in a quarter mile. That's faster than any 
 exotic you can buy today. Not bad for a basically 
 off-the-shelf piece of Detroit iron.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg
 
 


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Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/11/08, PN Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action magazine about a month
ago. The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show a pic. Another
frame from the shoot is going on the cover, so I'll hold off on
showing that.

The car itself is quite remarkable. It's a basically stock Dodge
Challenger with a different third member and a slightly modified 6.1
liter version of their hemi engine. You can buy it from the factory on
special order. It's engineered for drag racine. i photographed it
during prototype testing, so I couldn't choose the time of day for
best light. This shot was in early afternoon. Performance? The car ran
10.01 at 132 mph in a quarter mile. That's faster than any exotic you
can buy today. Not bad for a basically off-the-shelf piece of Detroit
iron.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg

Nice shot, as always.

Watch out for the first in the new series of Top Gear (don't know what
channel it airs on in the US - other petrolhead listers will tell you).
They spend a good deal of time with a Caddy, a Vette, and a new Challenger

http://jalopnik.com/5081442/top-gear-reviews-dodge-challenger-corvette-
zr1-cadillac-cts+vand-they-like-them

http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/2006/08/stories/11/1.html

I am deeply in love with the Challenger.

Try and see the programme - it's an absolute hoot!

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Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-14 Thread PN Stenquist

Thanks Jack. I'll post the cover shot when the magazine is published.

On Nov 14, 2008, at 6:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Wonderful, Paul. They should be very pleased. Maybe you can find  
time to post the cover shot when that embargo is lifted.(?)


Jack


--- On Fri, 11/14/08, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 2:53 PM
I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action magazine about
a month ago. The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show
a pic. Another frame from the shoot is going on the cover,
so I'll hold off on showing that.

The car itself is quite remarkable. It's a basically
stock Dodge Challenger with a different third member and a
slightly modified 6.1 liter version of their hemi engine.
You can buy it from the factory on special order. It's
engineered for drag racine. i photographed it during
prototype testing, so I couldn't choose the time of day
for best light. This shot was in early afternoon.
Performance? The car ran 10.01 at 132 mph in a quarter mile.
That's faster than any exotic you can buy today. Not bad
for a basically off-the-shelf piece of Detroit iron.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg

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Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-14 Thread Doug Franklin

PN Stenquist wrote:
I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action magazine about a month 
ago. The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show a pic. Another frame 
from the shoot is going on the cover, so I'll hold off on showing that.



http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg


/Very/ nice shot, Paul.  I'm not fond of the halo around the car, but 
that's a nit, surely. :-)


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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-14 Thread Christine Aguila
Congrats, Paul on the shot.  Looks great as usual.  Hope to see the cover 
shot soon.  Cheers, Christine



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Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 4:53 PM
Subject: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package


I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action magazine about a month  ago. 
The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show a pic. Another  frame from 
the shoot is going on the cover, so I'll hold off on  showing that.


The car itself is quite remarkable. It's a basically stock Dodge 
Challenger with a different third member and a slightly modified 6.1 
liter version of their hemi engine. You can buy it from the factory on 
special order. It's engineered for drag racine. i photographed it  during 
prototype testing, so I couldn't choose the time of day for  best light. 
This shot was in early afternoon. Performance? The car ran  10.01 at 132 
mph in a quarter mile. That's faster than any exotic you  can buy today. 
Not bad for a basically off-the-shelf piece of Detroit  iron.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg

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Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-14 Thread PN Stenquist

Thanks Doug.
Hmmm, I could clone the halo out. It's due to a shadow in the rear.  
Don't know what caused it in front. I thought it contributed to the  
sensation of motion, but perhaps it's distracting.

Paul
On Nov 14, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:


PN Stenquist wrote:
I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action magazine about a  
month ago. The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show a pic.  
Another frame from the shoot is going on the cover, so I'll hold  
off on showing that.



http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg


/Very/ nice shot, Paul.  I'm not fond of the halo around the car,  
but that's a nit, surely. :-)


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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-14 Thread Ken Waller

Nicely captured PAul.

What's that going on at the front end - looks like cloud build up?

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package


I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action magazine about a month  
ago. The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show a pic. Another  
frame from the shoot is going on the cover, so I'll hold off on  
showing that.


The car itself is quite remarkable. It's a basically stock Dodge  
Challenger with a different third member and a slightly modified 6.1  
liter version of their hemi engine. You can buy it from the factory on  
special order. It's engineered for drag racine. i photographed it  
during prototype testing, so I couldn't choose the time of day for  
best light. This shot was in early afternoon. Performance? The car ran  
10.01 at 132 mph in a quarter mile. That's faster than any exotic you  
can buy today. Not bad for a basically off-the-shelf piece of Detroit  
iron.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg



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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-14 Thread PN Stenquist
I don't know for certain what caused the front halo. But I have an  
idea, and I'll tell you what I think after those who want to respond  
have had a chance.

Paul
On Nov 14, 2008, at 8:22 PM, Ken Waller wrote:


Nicely captured PAul.

What's that going on at the front end - looks like cloud build up?

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


Subject: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package


I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action magazine about a  
month  ago. The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show a pic.  
Another  frame from the shoot is going on the cover, so I'll hold  
off on  showing that.
The car itself is quite remarkable. It's a basically stock Dodge   
Challenger with a different third member and a slightly modified  
6.1  liter version of their hemi engine. You can buy it from the  
factory on  special order. It's engineered for drag racine. i  
photographed it  during prototype testing, so I couldn't choose the  
time of day for  best light. This shot was in early afternoon.  
Performance? The car ran  10.01 at 132 mph in a quarter mile.  
That's faster than any exotic you  can buy today. Not bad for a  
basically off-the-shelf piece of Detroit  iron.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg



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Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-14 Thread Doug Franklin

PN Stenquist wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg


Hmmm, I could clone the halo out. It's due to a shadow in the rear. 
Don't know what caused it in front. I thought it contributed to the 
sensation of motion, but perhaps it's distracting.


Well, different viewers see things differently, and I could easily be an 
outlier from the curve. :-)  When initially viewing the photo, I 
interpreted it as something that'd been added in post, which I now know 
to be wrong.


I'm not sure either what could have caused that effect.  If the rest 
wasn't well focused, I'd wonder if it came from a slight change in the 
zoom setting on the lens.  I think the Pz-1 cameras could do that 
automatically with the Power Zoom lenses.  On closer inspection, it 
looks like motion blur from slight changes in panning speed, but that's 
contradicted by the sharpness of the car's body and the lack of similar 
halos on the interior parts of the car's image.


I had a somewhat similar shot from the Petit le Mans this year.  On mine 
there were two well focused images just maybe 20 or 30 pixels apart 
horizontally.  I finally decided that what'd happened was I'd had a 
hitch in my panning where I either sped up or slowed down with 
relation to the car momentarily, but otherwise tracked it accurately. 
I'll see if I can find it and post an excerpt.


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Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-14 Thread PN Stenquist

Here's a version with the halo cloned out.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8227424size=lg


On Nov 14, 2008, at 8:28 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:


PN Stenquist wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg


Hmmm, I could clone the halo out. It's due to a shadow in the rear.  
Don't know what caused it in front. I thought it contributed to the  
sensation of motion, but perhaps it's distracting.


Well, different viewers see things differently, and I could easily  
be an outlier from the curve. :-)  When initially viewing the  
photo, I interpreted it as something that'd been added in post,  
which I now know to be wrong.


I'm not sure either what could have caused that effect.  If the rest  
wasn't well focused, I'd wonder if it came from a slight change in  
the zoom setting on the lens.  I think the Pz-1 cameras could do  
that automatically with the Power Zoom lenses.  On closer  
inspection, it looks like motion blur from slight changes in panning  
speed, but that's contradicted by the sharpness of the car's body  
and the lack of similar halos on the interior parts of the car's  
image.


I had a somewhat similar shot from the Petit le Mans this year.  On  
mine there were two well focused images just maybe 20 or 30 pixels  
apart horizontally.  I finally decided that what'd happened was I'd  
had a hitch in my panning where I either sped up or slowed down  
with relation to the car momentarily, but otherwise tracked it  
accurately. I'll see if I can find it and post an excerpt.


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Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-14 Thread Christine Aguila
Paul:  this cloned version looks nice too.  I  think I like it better than 
the halo version.  Looking forward to your explanation about what might have 
caused the halo effect.  Cheers, Christine



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Here's a version with the halo cloned out.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8227424size=lg


On Nov 14, 2008, at 8:28 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:


PN Stenquist wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg


Hmmm, I could clone the halo out. It's due to a shadow in the rear. 
Don't know what caused it in front. I thought it contributed to the 
sensation of motion, but perhaps it's distracting.


Well, different viewers see things differently, and I could easily  be an 
outlier from the curve. :-)  When initially viewing the  photo, I 
interpreted it as something that'd been added in post,  which I now know 
to be wrong.


I'm not sure either what could have caused that effect.  If the rest 
wasn't well focused, I'd wonder if it came from a slight change in  the 
zoom setting on the lens.  I think the Pz-1 cameras could do  that 
automatically with the Power Zoom lenses.  On closer  inspection, it 
looks like motion blur from slight changes in panning  speed, but that's 
contradicted by the sharpness of the car's body  and the lack of similar 
halos on the interior parts of the car's  image.


I had a somewhat similar shot from the Petit le Mans this year.  On  mine 
there were two well focused images just maybe 20 or 30 pixels  apart 
horizontally.  I finally decided that what'd happened was I'd  had a 
hitch in my panning where I either sped up or slowed down  with 
relation to the car momentarily, but otherwise tracked it  accurately. 
I'll see if I can find it and post an excerpt.


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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-14 Thread John Celio

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg


*drool*

Why oh why must I be a poor designer?

*buckets of drool*

I'm going to need a bib if they have the Challenger at the SF Int'l Auto 
Show later this month.


Oh yeah, nice photo. ;)

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Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-14 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:17:06PM +, Cotty wrote:
 
 Watch out for the first in the new series of Top Gear (don't know what
 channel it airs on in the US - other petrolhead listers will tell you).

It airs on BBC America, but I don't think they're the current series;
several of the most recently-shown programs appear to be from 2007.


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Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-14 Thread Jack Davis
I thought it might be area lights reflecting off the white nose of the car.(?)

Jack


--- On Fri, 11/14/08, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 5:41 PM
 Here's a version with the halo cloned out.
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8227424size=lg
 
 
 On Nov 14, 2008, at 8:28 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:
 
  PN Stenquist wrote:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg
  
  Hmmm, I could clone the halo out. It's due to
 a shadow in the rear. Don't know what caused it in
 front. I thought it contributed to the sensation of motion,
 but perhaps it's distracting.
  
  Well, different viewers see things differently, and I
 could easily be an outlier from the curve. :-) 
 When initially viewing the photo, I interpreted it as
 something that'd been added in post, which I now know to
 be wrong.
  
  I'm not sure either what could have caused that
 effect.  If the rest wasn't well focused, I'd wonder
 if it came from a slight change in the zoom setting on the
 lens.  I think the Pz-1 cameras could do that automatically
 with the Power Zoom lenses.  On closer inspection, it looks
 like motion blur from slight changes in panning speed, but
 that's contradicted by the sharpness of the car's
 body and the lack of similar halos on the
 interior parts of the car's image.
  
  I had a somewhat similar shot from the Petit le Mans
 this year.  On mine there were two well focused images just
 maybe 20 or 30 pixels apart horizontally.  I finally decided
 that what'd happened was I'd had a hitch
 in my panning where I either sped up or slowed down with
 relation to the car momentarily, but otherwise tracked it
 accurately. I'll see if I can find it and post an
 excerpt.
  
  --Thanks,
  DougF (KG4LMZ)
  
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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't know for certain what caused the front halo. But I have an  
idea, and I'll tell you what I think after those who want to respond  
have had a chance.

Paul
On Nov 14, 2008, at 8:22 PM, Ken Waller wrote:


 Nicely captured PAul.

 What's that going on at the front end - looks like cloud build up?




Looks to me like you were panning during the shot, and your panning 
wasn't quite perfectly in sync ... 99 + 44/100% perfect, but not 
absolutely PERFECT perfect.


Did he up-shift right there in the middle of the shot?

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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-14 Thread John Francis

It looks to me as though you didn't get the pan exactly right; for
maybe 80% of the time you were tracking the car perfectly, but at
the start and end of the pan you were off slightly.
Exposure was, I'd guess, somewhere around 1/60 of a second; in any
case the car hasn't moved far enough during exposure for it to be
a change in the angle subtended by the car.  And I think it looks
pretty clear that this is an artifact limited to the direction of
motion of the car - at the front you can see an echo of the red
decal, and at the rear you can see the white teardrops at the end
of the two white lines that come closest to the rear of the car.
Looking at other parts of the image (the airscoop on the hood,
and the rear of the roof) also shows only horizontal smearing.
It apears to be striclty horizontal, not radially out from the
centre of the image, so I doubt if it's reflection off a filter.

P.S.  Nice car.  Nice image.


On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 08:27:39PM -0500, PN Stenquist wrote:
 I don't know for certain what caused the front halo. But I have an idea, 
 and I'll tell you what I think after those who want to respond have had a 
 chance.
 Paul
 On Nov 14, 2008, at 8:22 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

 Nicely captured PAul.

 What's that going on at the front end - looks like cloud build up?

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

 - Original Message - From: PN Stenquist 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package


 I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action magazine about a month  
 ago. The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show a pic. Another  
 frame from the shoot is going on the cover, so I'll hold off on  
 showing that.
 The car itself is quite remarkable. It's a basically stock Dodge   
 Challenger with a different third member and a slightly modified 6.1  
 liter version of their hemi engine. You can buy it from the factory 
 on  special order. It's engineered for drag racine. i photographed it 
  during prototype testing, so I couldn't choose the time of day for  
 best light. This shot was in early afternoon. Performance? The car 
 ran  10.01 at 132 mph in a quarter mile. That's faster than any 
 exotic you  can buy today. Not bad for a basically off-the-shelf 
 piece of Detroit  iron.
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg


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Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-14 Thread Joseph McAllister


On Nov 14, 2008, at 17:27 , PN Stenquist wrote:

I don't know for certain what caused the front halo. But I have an  
idea, and I'll tell you what I think after those who want to respond  
have had a chance.

Paul


I think that the shutter was open for x amount of time and began to  
record the car's image as you panned, then the flash went off and  
finished the exposure of the car, then the shutter closed. Panning was  
imperfect, leaving a transparent image of the car front and rear.


Am I close?



On Nov 14, 2008, at 8:22 PM, Ken Waller wrote:


Nicely captured PAul.

What's that going on at the front end - looks like cloud build up?


Joseph McAllister
Lots of gear, not much time


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Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package

2008-11-14 Thread Joseph McAllister

Hey wait, it was your red-eye preflash!


On Nov 14, 2008, at 17:41 , PN Stenquist wrote:


Here's a version with the halo cloned out.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8227424size=lg


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