Re: PESO Forest interior

2005-11-15 Thread Jostein

Whoa...

I just realised I've forgot to respond to all the comments you took 
time to post on my PESO.


Thanks in general to all! Individual comments coming up.

Jostein,
finally sorting out the depths of his inbox.

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From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 5:58 PM
Subject: PESO: Forest interior




This is one i'd very much like to hear your opinion on.

Be warned, the file size is about 270 Kb, and image dimensions is 
ca. 1000x550 pixels. I've tried to preserve some detail from the 
original, which is ca. 14 Mpix, stitched from 4 exposures.


http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html

Thanks,

Jostein





Re: PESO: Forest interior

2005-11-15 Thread Jostein

Hi Boris,

It is in the same area as we walked that day with Galia in the 
backpack seat. Your memory for places is pretty good. :-)


Julia is right about the green. It's a moisture-demanding moss, 
(Polytrichum sp.) that really is unbelieveably green.


thanks for commenting, mate.

Jostein

- Original Message - 
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: PESO: Forest interior



Hi!


This is one i'd very much like to hear your opinion on.

Be warned, the file size is about 270 Kb, and image dimensions is 
ca. 1000x550 pixels. I've tried to preserve some detail from the 
original, which is ca. 14 Mpix, stitched from 4 exposures.


http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html


Feels very much like some of the places I saw myself...

It is best served printed big... You did a great job, as usual ;-).

Boris

P.S. Julia approves though she is surprised by the greenness of the 
green. She thinks though this is how it has to be.






Re: PESO: Forest interior

2005-11-15 Thread Jostein

Thanks Mike.
It was the logs that drew me in. The hue on the spruce bark is too 
cold, I agree. Spruce bark one of those things that I find very hard 
to render correctly. :-(


Jostein

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From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: PESO: Forest interior



Jostein wrote:



This is one i'd very much like to hear your opinion on.

Be warned, the file size is about 270 Kb, and image dimensions is 
ca. 1000x550 pixels. I've tried to preserve some detail from the 
original, which is ca. 14 Mpix, stitched from 4 exposures.


http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html

Thanks,

Jostein



Not an image to present well on a monitor, unfortunately, if you 
want to appreciate the obvious detail in it.  Seems ever so slightly 
cold (blue) to me but that is, of course, a subjective assessment. 
The zig-zags work nicely - even the dead end.


mike





Re: PESO: Forest interior

2005-11-15 Thread Jostein

Thanks for commenting, Godfrey.

I tried your HSV suggestion, and I agree it looks a lot better. You 
may have solved a recurring issue for me there!


Concerning the colour space, I have many bad experiences with sRGB for 
web. It may be something I do wrong, I don't know... -But embedding 
the Adobe profile has given more consistent results for me...


Jostein

- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 2:34 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Forest interior



On Oct 15, 2005, at 9:58 AM, Jostein wrote:


http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html


Lovely composition.

I notice that you posted it with an Adobe RGB (1998) profile 
embedded; you'd probably do better to convert it to sRGB (and embed 
the sRGB tag) for web posting.


It is a bit too blue, although I agree that light in the forest can 
be bluish. An HSV adjustment layer and desaturating in the Cyans by 
50% cleans it up beautifully.


Godfrey





Re: Forest interior

2005-11-15 Thread Jostein

Hi Sandra,

Haven't seen you post much since this pic came online. Hope you're 
still among us.


Thanks for commenting. :-)

Jostein

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From: Hal  Sandra Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: Forest interior



Beautifully done!
- Original Message - 
From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 11:58 AM
Subject: PESO: Forest interior




This is one i'd very much like to hear your opinion on.

Be warned, the file size is about 270 Kb, and image dimensions is 
ca.
1000x550 pixels. I've tried to preserve some detail from the 
original,

which is ca. 14 Mpix, stitched from 4 exposures.

http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html

Thanks,

Jostein








Re: Peso: Forest interior

2005-11-15 Thread Jostein

Thanks Christian.

Keeping the greens was my reason for not doing anything with the 
bluishness. Godfrey's tip helped me figure out how to split those 
problems. :-)



Cheers,
Jostein

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From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: Peso: Forest interior




- Original Message - 
From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 12:58 PM
Subject: PESO: Forest interior




This is one i'd very much like to hear your opinion on.

Be warned, the file size is about 270 Kb, and image dimensions is 
ca. 1000x550 pixels. I've tried to preserve some detail from the 
original, which is ca. 14 Mpix, stitched from 4 exposures.


http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html


It works well to draw the viewer in.  Nice composition.  It does 
look a bit blue on my screen however; but I do love the greens!


Christian 




Re: PESO: Forest interior

2005-11-15 Thread Jostein

Thanks Dave,

I will try to print this in A3+ sometime. Just have to buy some more 
paper first...:-)


Actually, I used one of the last sheets to print a blackwhite version 
of this image.


Jostein

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From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Forest interior



On Oct 16, 2005, at 5:58 AM, Jostein wrote:


http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html


I'm aching to see more detail.  I think this would look nice as a 
large print.


I especially like the small patch of light in the background.  It's 
interesting without being distracting.


- Dave






Re: PESO: Forest interior

2005-11-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Nov 15, 2005, at 10:17 AM, Jostein wrote:


Thanks for commenting, Godfrey.

I tried your HSV suggestion, and I agree it looks a lot better. You  
may have solved a recurring issue for me there!


Glad that worked out to your liking.

Concerning the colour space, I have many bad experiences with sRGB  
for web. It may be something I do wrong, I don't know... -But  
embedding the Adobe profile has given more consistent results for  
me...


Hmm. Are you using the Convert to... colorspace command, choosing  
sRGB? It makes no difference for browsers that are actually honoring  
the ICC profile (Internet Explorer and Safari do on Mac OS X, I don't  
know about others), but so many people use poorly calibrated monitors  
and browsers that don't honor the embedded ICC profile that sRGB is  
usually a better rough estimate.


Godfrey


- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 2:34 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Forest interior



On Oct 15, 2005, at 9:58 AM, Jostein wrote:


http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html


Lovely composition.

I notice that you posted it with an Adobe RGB (1998) profile  
embedded; you'd probably do better to convert it to sRGB (and  
embed the sRGB tag) for web posting.


It is a bit too blue, although I agree that light in the forest  
can be bluish. An HSV adjustment layer and desaturating in the  
Cyans by 50% cleans it up beautifully.


Godfrey






Re: PESO: Forest interior

2005-11-15 Thread Jostein


- Original Message - 
From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]


http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html



make one smaller for me will ya?


Ok. Specially for you, Ann:
http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior_PS-80.html

Cheers,
Jostein



In fact, I know most of you out there have DSL or
Cable hook ups or something
but I'm on dial up and a few others of us are...

when you guys Have lovely photos that are that
big, maybe you could make a smaller
version and send link to that as well.  


I love your stuff, Jostein - want to see this in a
size that fits on my monitor.

xo,
ann





Re: PESO: Forest interior

2005-11-15 Thread Jostein

Hey Frank,
Thanks for commenting.
I just uploaded a new version, stitched manually with Photoshop 
instead of the semi-automatic, no-brain-involved process of 
PanoramaMaker3. There's a link to a 1:1 crop there as well, to give 
you an idea about the detail.


(URL is the same.)

Jostein

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From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Forest interior



On 10/15/05, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


This is one i'd very much like to hear your opinion on.

Be warned, the file size is about 270 Kb, and image dimensions is 
ca.
1000x550 pixels. I've tried to preserve some detail from the 
original,

which is ca. 14 Mpix, stitched from 4 exposures.

http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html



i like the radial pattern of the trunks on the bottom left.  the
detail makes me wish that i could see a big print.  love the cool
colours.

-frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson





Re: PESO: Forest interior

2005-11-15 Thread Jostein

Thanks Shel.

:-)

Jostein

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From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 6:47 PM
Subject: RE: PESO: Forest interior



Good one!  Love the colors - you got 'em right ;-))

Shel 


[Original Message]
From: Jostein 



This is one i'd very much like to hear your opinion on.



http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html







Re: PESO: Forest interior

2005-11-15 Thread Jostein

Um...
October isn't winter... Not even here.

Pål Jensen may have it differently, though...

Jostein

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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: PESO: Forest interior



Shel Belinkoff wrote:
But Mike, that's how the light is in a forest, especially in the 
fall and

winter months.  IMO, the bluish color is just perfect. Shel


Is it the winter? 8-)  I think the blueness is very striking 
but.







[Original Message]
From: mike wilson




http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html



Seems ever so slightly cold (blue) to me but that is, of course, a 
subjective assessment.












Re: PESO: Forest interior

2005-11-15 Thread Jostein

Thanks Markus.
I didn't actually want it that way. :-)
There was a clear blue sky overhead, though. Godfrey made a suggestion 
that worked a lot better, but you may be right... The bluishness may 
have been an accurate rendering of the reflected light on the trunks.


I do like Godfrey's suggestion better, though...:-)

I've uploaded a new version, if you'd like to see the difference. The 
URL is the same.


Jostein

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From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 7:19 PM
Subject: RE: PESO: Forest interior



Hi Jostein
I like it a lot, the lightning in the right upper part is very nice, 
also

the fern and other details.
It looks a bit cold (bluish) here but maybe you want it or it was 
that way?

Well done...

greetings
Markus




-Original Message-
From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 6:58 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: Forest interior



This is one i'd very much like to hear your opinion on.

Be warned, the file size is about 270 Kb, and image dimensions is 
ca.
1000x550 pixels. I've tried to preserve some detail from the 
original,

which is ca. 14 Mpix, stitched from 4 exposures.

http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html

Thanks,

Jostein







Re: PESO: Forest interior

2005-11-15 Thread Jostein

Thanks Paul.


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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: PESO: Forest interior


Excellent Jostein. That scattering of highlights in the background 
makes it special for me.

Paul
On Oct 15, 2005, at 1:47 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


Good one!  Love the colors - you got 'em right ;-))

Shel


[Original Message]
From: Jostein



This is one i'd very much like to hear your opinion on.



http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html









Re: PESO: Forest interior

2005-11-15 Thread Rob Studdert
On 15 Nov 2005 at 10:35, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Hmm. Are you using the Convert to... colorspace command, choosing  
 sRGB? It makes no difference for browsers that are actually honoring  
 the ICC profile (Internet Explorer and Safari do on Mac OS X, I don't  
 know about others), but so many people use poorly calibrated monitors  
 and browsers that don't honor the embedded ICC profile that sRGB is  
 usually a better rough estimate.

No current Windows based browsers honour any embedded colour profiles AFAIK 
however most PC desk-tops are close enough to sRGB spec to provide a reasonable 
rendering of an sRGB image. AdobeRGB embedded images generally look a bid sad 
on an sRGB windows browser.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



RE: PESO: Forest interior

2005-10-18 Thread Jens Bladt
Not a dull day. clarly theres a blue sky some where.
Regards
Jens

Jens Bladt
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http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


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Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: PESO: Forest interior


Nice photo in what lolls like a dull fall day.

I'm looking at it on a laptop, but it seems to have bit of bluie tint to the
trees.

Dave




 This is one i'd very much like to hear your opinion on.

 Be warned, the file size is about 270 Kb, and image dimensions is ca.
 1000x550 pixels. I've tried to preserve some detail from the original,
 which is ca. 14 Mpix, stitched from 4 exposures.

 http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html

 Thanks,

 Jostein








Re: PESO: Forest interior

2005-10-16 Thread David Mann

On Oct 16, 2005, at 5:58 AM, Jostein wrote:


http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html


I'm aching to see more detail.  I think this would look nice as a  
large print.


I especially like the small patch of light in the background.  It's  
interesting without being distracting.


- Dave




Re: PESO: Forest interior

2005-10-16 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Jostein wrote:
 
 This is one i'd very much like to hear your opinion on.
 
 Be warned, the file size is about 270 Kb, and image dimensions is ca.
 1000x550 pixels. I've tried to preserve some detail from the original,
 which is ca. 14 Mpix, stitched from 4 exposures.
 
 http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jostein

make one smaller for me will ya?

In fact, I know most of you out there have DSL or
Cable hook ups or something
but I'm on dial up and a few others of us are...

when you guys Have lovely photos that are that
big, maybe you could make a smaller
version and send link to that as well.  

I love your stuff, Jostein - want to see this in a
size that fits on my monitor.

xo,
ann



Re: PESO: Forest interior

2005-10-16 Thread brooksdj
Nice photo in what lolls like a dull fall day.

I'm looking at it on a laptop, but it seems to have bit of bluie tint to the 
trees.

Dave 



 
 This is one i'd very much like to hear your opinion on.
 
 Be warned, the file size is about 270 Kb, and image dimensions is ca. 
 1000x550 pixels. I've tried to preserve some detail from the original, 
 which is ca. 14 Mpix, stitched from 4 exposures.
 
 http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jostein
 






PESO: Forest interior

2005-10-15 Thread Jostein


This is one i'd very much like to hear your opinion on.

Be warned, the file size is about 270 Kb, and image dimensions is ca. 
1000x550 pixels. I've tried to preserve some detail from the original, 
which is ca. 14 Mpix, stitched from 4 exposures.


http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html

Thanks,

Jostein



Re: PESO: Forest interior

2005-10-15 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!


This is one i'd very much like to hear your opinion on.

Be warned, the file size is about 270 Kb, and image dimensions is ca. 
1000x550 pixels. I've tried to preserve some detail from the original, 
which is ca. 14 Mpix, stitched from 4 exposures.


http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html


Feels very much like some of the places I saw myself...

It is best served printed big... You did a great job, as usual ;-).

Boris

P.S. Julia approves though she is surprised by the greenness of the 
green. She thinks though this is how it has to be.




Re: Forest interior

2005-10-15 Thread Hal Sandra Davis
Beautifully done!
- Original Message - 
From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 11:58 AM
Subject: PESO: Forest interior


 
 This is one i'd very much like to hear your opinion on.
 
 Be warned, the file size is about 270 Kb, and image dimensions is ca. 
 1000x550 pixels. I've tried to preserve some detail from the original, 
 which is ca. 14 Mpix, stitched from 4 exposures.
 
 http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jostein
 
 



Re: PESO: Forest interior

2005-10-15 Thread mike wilson

Jostein wrote:



This is one i'd very much like to hear your opinion on.

Be warned, the file size is about 270 Kb, and image dimensions is ca. 
1000x550 pixels. I've tried to preserve some detail from the original, 
which is ca. 14 Mpix, stitched from 4 exposures.


http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html

Thanks,

Jostein



Not an image to present well on a monitor, unfortunately, if you want to 
appreciate the obvious detail in it.  Seems ever so slightly cold (blue) 
to me but that is, of course, a subjective assessment.  The zig-zags 
work nicely - even the dead end.


mike



RE: PESO: Forest interior

2005-10-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Good one!  Love the colors - you got 'em right ;-))

Shel 

 [Original Message]
 From: Jostein 

 This is one i'd very much like to hear your opinion on.

 http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html




Re: Peso: Forest interior

2005-10-15 Thread Christian


- Original Message - 
From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 12:58 PM
Subject: PESO: Forest interior




This is one i'd very much like to hear your opinion on.

Be warned, the file size is about 270 Kb, and image dimensions is ca. 
1000x550 pixels. I've tried to preserve some detail from the original, 
which is ca. 14 Mpix, stitched from 4 exposures.


http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html


It works well to draw the viewer in.  Nice composition.  It does look a bit 
blue on my screen however; but I do love the greens!


Christian 



Re: PESO: Forest interior

2005-10-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
But Mike, that's how the light is in a forest, especially in the fall and
winter months.  IMO, the bluish color is just perfect. 

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: mike wilson 

  http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html

 Seems ever so slightly cold (blue) 
 to me but that is, of course, a subjective assessment.




RE: PESO: Forest interior

2005-10-15 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Jostein
I like it a lot, the lightning in the right upper part is very nice, also
the fern and other details.
It looks a bit cold (bluish) here but maybe you want it or it was that way?
Well done...

greetings
Markus



-Original Message-
From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 6:58 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: Forest interior



This is one i'd very much like to hear your opinion on.

Be warned, the file size is about 270 Kb, and image dimensions is ca.
1000x550 pixels. I've tried to preserve some detail from the original,
which is ca. 14 Mpix, stitched from 4 exposures.

http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html

Thanks,

Jostein




Re: PESO: Forest interior

2005-10-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
Excellent Jostein. That scattering of highlights in the background 
makes it special for me.

Paul
On Oct 15, 2005, at 1:47 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


Good one!  Love the colors - you got 'em right ;-))

Shel


[Original Message]
From: Jostein



This is one i'd very much like to hear your opinion on.



http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html







Re: PESO: Forest interior

2005-10-15 Thread mike wilson

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

But Mike, that's how the light is in a forest, especially in the fall and
winter months.  IMO, the bluish color is just perfect. 

Shel 


Is it the winter? 8-)  I think the blueness is very striking but.






[Original Message]
From: mike wilson 




http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html



Seems ever so slightly cold (blue) 
to me but that is, of course, a subjective assessment.










Re: PESO: Forest interior

2005-10-15 Thread frank theriault
On 10/15/05, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is one i'd very much like to hear your opinion on.

 Be warned, the file size is about 270 Kb, and image dimensions is ca.
 1000x550 pixels. I've tried to preserve some detail from the original,
 which is ca. 14 Mpix, stitched from 4 exposures.

 http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html


i like the radial pattern of the trunks on the bottom left.  the
detail makes me wish that i could see a big print.  love the cool
colours.

-frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: Forest interior

2005-10-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Oct 15, 2005, at 9:58 AM, Jostein wrote:


http://www.oksne.net/paw/stitched_skoginterior.html


Lovely composition.

I notice that you posted it with an Adobe RGB (1998) profile  
embedded; you'd probably do better to convert it to sRGB (and embed  
the sRGB tag) for web posting.


It is a bit too blue, although I agree that light in the forest can  
be bluish. An HSV adjustment layer and desaturating in the Cyans by  
50% cleans it up beautifully.


Godfrey