Re: Full Frame Confused

[P.J. Alling]

I believe the proper way to express that thought would be; "Blessed are 
those who expect nothing, for they will not be disappointed."  
Pessimists are always disappointed.


On 2/18/2015 1:40 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

I believe you would get along well with my mother, Miserere. Her
guiding philosophy seems to be: "Blessed are the pessimistic, for they
shall not be disappointed."
:)

On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Miserere  wrote:

On 13 February 2015 at 17:16, Darren Addy  wrote:

What in the world is ugly about it?

Everything? Yeah, I think everything. Well, I do like the colour.


That prism housing remind me of a Stealth Fighter:
http://www.richard-seaman.com/Wallpaper/Aircraft/Attack/F117BankingHardLeft10oClock.jpg

Unless it would make me invisible while shooting on the street, I'd
rather it didn't look like an aeroplane.


It is only slightly taller, and I think the design has elements that
are reminiscent of the 67ii.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kzfuedKIvUE/UeAdYidR0II/AWg/X12hlC4eEto/s1600/SDIM1197_2.jpg

That would be it! I never liked the 67 cameras. (Their shape; I've
never actually shot with one.)


In any event, either some of you refuse to be happy with anything or
you are going to be like those people who absolutely HATE that new
song the first time they hear it, but it ends up sticking in your head
and becoming one of your All Time Favorites, in time.

:)

Happiness is an illusion, Darren ;-)

I don't particularly care how it will look, cos I'm not in the market,
and Pentax shouldn't be trying to please me. It was just a knee-jerk
reaction, and I will reserve further commentary for when we see the
finalised design, maybe in 2017.

Cheers,


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Re: Full Frame Confused

[Miserere]

I probably would. Is she single?

Don't tell my wife!

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On 18 February 2015 at 13:40, Darren Addy  wrote:
> I believe you would get along well with my mother, Miserere. Her
> guiding philosophy seems to be: "Blessed are the pessimistic, for they
> shall not be disappointed."
> :)
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Miserere  wrote:
>> On 13 February 2015 at 17:16, Darren Addy  wrote:
>>> What in the world is ugly about it?
>>
>> Everything? Yeah, I think everything. Well, I do like the colour.
>>
>>> That prism housing remind me of a Stealth Fighter:
>>> http://www.richard-seaman.com/Wallpaper/Aircraft/Attack/F117BankingHardLeft10oClock.jpg
>>
>> Unless it would make me invisible while shooting on the street, I'd
>> rather it didn't look like an aeroplane.
>>
>>> It is only slightly taller, and I think the design has elements that
>>> are reminiscent of the 67ii.
>>> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kzfuedKIvUE/UeAdYidR0II/AWg/X12hlC4eEto/s1600/SDIM1197_2.jpg
>>
>> That would be it! I never liked the 67 cameras. (Their shape; I've
>> never actually shot with one.)
>>
>>> In any event, either some of you refuse to be happy with anything or
>>> you are going to be like those people who absolutely HATE that new
>>> song the first time they hear it, but it ends up sticking in your head
>>> and becoming one of your All Time Favorites, in time.
>>>
>>> :)
>>
>> Happiness is an illusion, Darren ;-)
>>
>> I don't particularly care how it will look, cos I'm not in the market,
>> and Pentax shouldn't be trying to please me. It was just a knee-jerk
>> reaction, and I will reserve further commentary for when we see the
>> finalised design, maybe in 2017.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>—M.
>>
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Re: Full Frame Confused

[Jack Davis]

Last message I received was at 11:52AM today.

Jack

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Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 11:50:27 AM
Subject: Re: Full Frame Confused

Only an optimist could have written that. I always expect things to turn out 
badly, so I'm always disappointed when they go well, and more disappointed when 
they're even worse than I expected. Nothing is ever exactly as bad as I thought 
it would be. That might cheer me up a bit.

I'd say 'cheers', but you'd only think I was drinking.

Which I am.

Marvin



> On 18 Feb 2015, at 18:40, Darren Addy  wrote:
> 
> I believe you would get along well with my mother, Miserere. Her
> guiding philosophy seems to be: "Blessed are the pessimistic, for they
> shall not be disappointed."
> :)
> 
>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Miserere  wrote:
>>> On 13 February 2015 at 17:16, Darren Addy  wrote:
>>> What in the world is ugly about it?
>> 
>> Everything? Yeah, I think everything. Well, I do like the colour.
>> 
>>> That prism housing remind me of a Stealth Fighter:
>>> http://www.richard-seaman.com/Wallpaper/Aircraft/Attack/F117BankingHardLeft10oClock.jpg
>> 
>> Unless it would make me invisible while shooting on the street, I'd
>> rather it didn't look like an aeroplane.
>> 
>>> It is only slightly taller, and I think the design has elements that
>>> are reminiscent of the 67ii.
>>> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kzfuedKIvUE/UeAdYidR0II/AWg/X12hlC4eEto/s1600/SDIM1197_2.jpg
>> 
>> That would be it! I never liked the 67 cameras. (Their shape; I've
>> never actually shot with one.)
>> 
>>> In any event, either some of you refuse to be happy with anything or
>>> you are going to be like those people who absolutely HATE that new
>>> song the first time they hear it, but it ends up sticking in your head
>>> and becoming one of your All Time Favorites, in time.
>>> 
>>> :)
>> 
>> Happiness is an illusion, Darren ;-)
>> 
>> I don't particularly care how it will look, cos I'm not in the market,
>> and Pentax shouldn't be trying to please me. It was just a knee-jerk
>> reaction, and I will reserve further commentary for when we see the
>> finalised design, maybe in 2017.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> 
>>   —M.
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Re: Full Frame Confused

[Bob W-PDML]

Only an optimist could have written that. I always expect things to turn out 
badly, so I'm always disappointed when they go well, and more disappointed when 
they're even worse than I expected. Nothing is ever exactly as bad as I thought 
it would be. That might cheer me up a bit.

I'd say 'cheers', but you'd only think I was drinking.

Which I am.

Marvin



> On 18 Feb 2015, at 18:40, Darren Addy  wrote:
> 
> I believe you would get along well with my mother, Miserere. Her
> guiding philosophy seems to be: "Blessed are the pessimistic, for they
> shall not be disappointed."
> :)
> 
>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Miserere  wrote:
>>> On 13 February 2015 at 17:16, Darren Addy  wrote:
>>> What in the world is ugly about it?
>> 
>> Everything? Yeah, I think everything. Well, I do like the colour.
>> 
>>> That prism housing remind me of a Stealth Fighter:
>>> http://www.richard-seaman.com/Wallpaper/Aircraft/Attack/F117BankingHardLeft10oClock.jpg
>> 
>> Unless it would make me invisible while shooting on the street, I'd
>> rather it didn't look like an aeroplane.
>> 
>>> It is only slightly taller, and I think the design has elements that
>>> are reminiscent of the 67ii.
>>> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kzfuedKIvUE/UeAdYidR0II/AWg/X12hlC4eEto/s1600/SDIM1197_2.jpg
>> 
>> That would be it! I never liked the 67 cameras. (Their shape; I've
>> never actually shot with one.)
>> 
>>> In any event, either some of you refuse to be happy with anything or
>>> you are going to be like those people who absolutely HATE that new
>>> song the first time they hear it, but it ends up sticking in your head
>>> and becoming one of your All Time Favorites, in time.
>>> 
>>> :)
>> 
>> Happiness is an illusion, Darren ;-)
>> 
>> I don't particularly care how it will look, cos I'm not in the market,
>> and Pentax shouldn't be trying to please me. It was just a knee-jerk
>> reaction, and I will reserve further commentary for when we see the
>> finalised design, maybe in 2017.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> 
>>   —M.
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Re: Full Frame Confused

[Bob Sullivan]

Mark!!!
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> I believe you would get along well with my mother, Miserere. Her
> guiding philosophy seems to be: "Blessed are the pessimistic, for they
> shall not be disappointed."
> :)
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Miserere  wrote:
>> On 13 February 2015 at 17:16, Darren Addy  wrote:
>>> What in the world is ugly about it?
>>
>> Everything? Yeah, I think everything. Well, I do like the colour.
>>
>>> That prism housing remind me of a Stealth Fighter:
>>> http://www.richard-seaman.com/Wallpaper/Aircraft/Attack/F117BankingHardLeft10oClock.jpg
>>
>> Unless it would make me invisible while shooting on the street, I'd
>> rather it didn't look like an aeroplane.
>>
>>> It is only slightly taller, and I think the design has elements that
>>> are reminiscent of the 67ii.
>>> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kzfuedKIvUE/UeAdYidR0II/AWg/X12hlC4eEto/s1600/SDIM1197_2.jpg
>>
>> That would be it! I never liked the 67 cameras. (Their shape; I've
>> never actually shot with one.)
>>
>>> In any event, either some of you refuse to be happy with anything or
>>> you are going to be like those people who absolutely HATE that new
>>> song the first time they hear it, but it ends up sticking in your head
>>> and becoming one of your All Time Favorites, in time.
>>>
>>> :)
>>
>> Happiness is an illusion, Darren ;-)
>>
>> I don't particularly care how it will look, cos I'm not in the market,
>> and Pentax shouldn't be trying to please me. It was just a knee-jerk
>> reaction, and I will reserve further commentary for when we see the
>> finalised design, maybe in 2017.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>—M.
>>
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Re: Full Frame Confused

[Darren Addy]

I believe you would get along well with my mother, Miserere. Her
guiding philosophy seems to be: "Blessed are the pessimistic, for they
shall not be disappointed."
:)

On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Miserere  wrote:
> On 13 February 2015 at 17:16, Darren Addy  wrote:
>> What in the world is ugly about it?
>
> Everything? Yeah, I think everything. Well, I do like the colour.
>
>> That prism housing remind me of a Stealth Fighter:
>> http://www.richard-seaman.com/Wallpaper/Aircraft/Attack/F117BankingHardLeft10oClock.jpg
>
> Unless it would make me invisible while shooting on the street, I'd
> rather it didn't look like an aeroplane.
>
>> It is only slightly taller, and I think the design has elements that
>> are reminiscent of the 67ii.
>> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kzfuedKIvUE/UeAdYidR0II/AWg/X12hlC4eEto/s1600/SDIM1197_2.jpg
>
> That would be it! I never liked the 67 cameras. (Their shape; I've
> never actually shot with one.)
>
>> In any event, either some of you refuse to be happy with anything or
>> you are going to be like those people who absolutely HATE that new
>> song the first time they hear it, but it ends up sticking in your head
>> and becoming one of your All Time Favorites, in time.
>>
>> :)
>
> Happiness is an illusion, Darren ;-)
>
> I don't particularly care how it will look, cos I'm not in the market,
> and Pentax shouldn't be trying to please me. It was just a knee-jerk
> reaction, and I will reserve further commentary for when we see the
> finalised design, maybe in 2017.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>—M.
>
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Re: Full Frame Confused

[Miserere]

On 13 February 2015 at 17:16, Darren Addy  wrote:
> What in the world is ugly about it?

Everything? Yeah, I think everything. Well, I do like the colour.

> That prism housing remind me of a Stealth Fighter:
> http://www.richard-seaman.com/Wallpaper/Aircraft/Attack/F117BankingHardLeft10oClock.jpg

Unless it would make me invisible while shooting on the street, I'd
rather it didn't look like an aeroplane.

> It is only slightly taller, and I think the design has elements that
> are reminiscent of the 67ii.
> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kzfuedKIvUE/UeAdYidR0II/AWg/X12hlC4eEto/s1600/SDIM1197_2.jpg

That would be it! I never liked the 67 cameras. (Their shape; I've
never actually shot with one.)

> In any event, either some of you refuse to be happy with anything or
> you are going to be like those people who absolutely HATE that new
> song the first time they hear it, but it ends up sticking in your head
> and becoming one of your All Time Favorites, in time.
>
> :)

Happiness is an illusion, Darren ;-)

I don't particularly care how it will look, cos I'm not in the market,
and Pentax shouldn't be trying to please me. It was just a knee-jerk
reaction, and I will reserve further commentary for when we see the
finalised design, maybe in 2017.

Cheers,


   —M.

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Re: Full Frame Confused

[Paul Stenquist]

I don't care what it looks like if it fits my hand and is hefty enough to 
balance substantial glass. I doubt that I'll be an early adapter, but I suspect 
some of my clients will like those huge files, so I'll be on board at some 
point. And I can't resist new toys.

Paul via phone

> On Feb 13, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Miserere wrote:
> 
>> I'm with you, Cotty; I found it fugly as hell.
>> 
>> Did they fire the K-3/5/7 designers?
> 
> Odd. I really like the look of the new camera.
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Re: Full Frame Confused

[P.J. Alling]

I was always more taken by the original 6x7 looks, the 67II looks too 
"blccky", on the other hand I'd much rather own a 67II for the 
functionality.


On 2/13/2015 5:16 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

What in the world is ugly about it?  That prism housing remind me of a
Stealth Fighter:
http://www.richard-seaman.com/Wallpaper/Aircraft/Attack/F117BankingHardLeft10oClock.jpg

It is only slightly taller, and I think the design has elements that
are reminiscent of the 67ii.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kzfuedKIvUE/UeAdYidR0II/AWg/X12hlC4eEto/s1600/SDIM1197_2.jpg

In any event, either some of you refuse to be happy with anything or
you are going to be like those people who absolutely HATE that new
song the first time they hear it, but it ends up sticking in your head
and becoming one of your All Time Favorites, in time.

:)




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Re: Full Frame Confused

[Darren Addy]

I'm with Mark. If anything is "fugly" it is the hump on the K-3 that
is basically just for a headphone jack. But it isn't anything to get
in a kerfuffle over. Form follows function. The only design problem I
ever had with Pentax was their weird prism housing on the K-30 with
looks like some Neanderthal brow. Frankly, even the K-01 was better
looking than that. Still, if it has good image quality and ergonomics,
the "looks" are less than important.

“What we see depends mainly on what we look for.”
― John Lubbock

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> Miserere wrote:
>
>>I'm with you, Cotty; I found it fugly as hell.
>>
>>Did they fire the K-3/5/7 designers?
>
> Odd. I really like the look of the new camera.
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Re: Full Frame Confused

[Mark Roberts]

Miserere wrote:

>I'm with you, Cotty; I found it fugly as hell.
>
>Did they fire the K-3/5/7 designers?

Odd. I really like the look of the new camera.
 
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Re: Full Frame Confused

[Darren Addy]

What in the world is ugly about it?  That prism housing remind me of a
Stealth Fighter:
http://www.richard-seaman.com/Wallpaper/Aircraft/Attack/F117BankingHardLeft10oClock.jpg

It is only slightly taller, and I think the design has elements that
are reminiscent of the 67ii.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kzfuedKIvUE/UeAdYidR0II/AWg/X12hlC4eEto/s1600/SDIM1197_2.jpg

In any event, either some of you refuse to be happy with anything or
you are going to be like those people who absolutely HATE that new
song the first time they hear it, but it ends up sticking in your head
and becoming one of your All Time Favorites, in time.

:)

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Re: Full Frame Confused

[Larry Colen]

Miserere wrote:

I'm with you, Cotty; I found it fugly as hell.

Did they fire the K-3/5/7 designers?


They are in dire straits in this situation between losing customers and 
potential customers over lack of an upgrade path to a Full! Frame! 
Sensor! and Osborneing themselves because too many people will forgo 
buying a K-3, or whatever top end APS camera while waiting for the FF body.


I know that in many industries companies go to great lengths to hide the 
appearance and features of their new models. I wouldn't be surprised if 
this mockup was the 1.0 dummy, or they had one of their design interns 
take bits and pieces, where they could from other body designs, paste 
them all together and make something that could plausibly be a FF DSLR 
just so that they'd have something physical to show at CP+.


I would not be at all surprised if the only similarity between this and 
the final product is the K-mount, and possibly the word Pentax on the 
front, though I wouldn't bet too heavily on the font.


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Re: Full Frame Confused

[Miserere]

I'm with you, Cotty; I found it fugly as hell.

Did they fire the K-3/5/7 designers?

Cheers,


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On 12 February 2015 at 10:23, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> I think that my hat's going to give me indigestion. What a ghastly object!
>
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Re: Full Frame Confused

[Bill]

On 12/02/2015 2:54 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

It seems to me that what was shown is obviously a mock up/early
prototype - notice the lack of labeling on the controls, the black flash
shoe etc. Wouldn't suprise me if it were just a solid block - non
functional.


I expect it's generated from a 3D printer.
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Re: Full Frame Confused

[Bryan Jacoby]

That "camera" looks suspiciously like the output of a 3D printer, so
I'm not going to get too fixated on the details at this point (and by
details I mean anything beyond the fact that it's K-mount and has a
roughly 24x36mm sensor).  I think all we know for sure is that Ricoh
has publicly committed to building a full frame camera in the
foreseeable future.

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> It seems to me that what was shown is obviously a mock up/early prototype -
> notice the lack of labeling on the controls, the black flash shoe etc.
> Wouldn't suprise me if it were just a solid block - non functional.
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>
> - Original Message - From: "P.J. Alling"
> 
> Subject: Re: Full Frame Confused
>
>
>
>> I hope that's not the final design, the tilt screen needs to be better
>> integrated into the body, and it doesn't say anything on the back...  Maybe
>> it will someday.
>>
>> On 2/12/2015 11:02 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>>>
>>> Well the label says Pentax on the front and back of the camera, so its a
>>> Pentax!
>>>
>>> I think its beautiful. Also: never say never ;)
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Steve Cottrell 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think that my hat's going to give me indigestion. What a ghastly
>>>> object!
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.dpreview.com/articles/8579230519/cp-2015-up-close-and-
>>>> personal-with-ricoh-full-frame-mockup>
>>>>
>>>> And is it Ricoh or Pentax??
>>>>
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Re: Full Frame Confused

[Ken Waller]

It seems to me that what was shown is obviously a mock up/early prototype - 
notice the lack of labeling on the controls, the black flash shoe etc. 
Wouldn't suprise me if it were just a solid block - non functional.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "P.J. Alling" 

Subject: Re: Full Frame Confused


I hope that's not the final design, the tilt screen needs to be better 
integrated into the body, and it doesn't say anything on the back...  Maybe 
it will someday.


On 2/12/2015 11:02 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:
Well the label says Pentax on the front and back of the camera, so its a 
Pentax!


I think its beautiful. Also: never say never ;)

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Steve Cottrell  
wrote:
I think that my hat's going to give me indigestion. What a ghastly 
object!


<http://www.dpreview.com/articles/8579230519/cp-2015-up-close-and-
personal-with-ricoh-full-frame-mockup>

And is it Ricoh or Pentax??

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Re: Full Frame Confused

[John]

On 2/12/2015 10:23 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

I think that my hat's going to give me indigestion. What a ghastly object!

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/8579230519/cp-2015-up-close-and-personal-with-ricoh-full-frame-mockup


And is it Ricoh or Pentax??



Looks to me like it has a lot of the K-3 style to it, with the exception
of not having the built in pop-up flash. The back is missing the button
to switch between card slots, but there's a little bump suggestive of a
location for such a button.

I think it's maybe a basic mockup with some of the bells & whistles not
showing yet. Which in turn suggests to me the real thing will have a
control layout VERY similar to the K-3, including the built in pop-up flash.

The REAL import is that Ricoh is OFFICIALLY exhibiting it publicly.

http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.uk/en/reference-product-at-CP-2015

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Re: Full Frame Confused

[P.J. Alling]

I hope that's not the final design, the tilt screen needs to be better 
integrated into the body, and it doesn't say anything on the back...  
Maybe it will someday.


On 2/12/2015 11:02 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:

Well the label says Pentax on the front and back of the camera, so its a Pentax!

I think its beautiful. Also: never say never ;)

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

I think that my hat's going to give me indigestion. What a ghastly object!



And is it Ricoh or Pentax??

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Re: Full Frame Confused

[Zos Xavius]

Well the label says Pentax on the front and back of the camera, so its a Pentax!

I think its beautiful. Also: never say never ;)

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> I think that my hat's going to give me indigestion. What a ghastly object!
>
>  personal-with-ricoh-full-frame-mockup>
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Full Frame Confused

[Steve Cottrell]

I think that my hat's going to give me indigestion. What a ghastly object!



And is it Ricoh or Pentax??

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