Re: GESO - Land Rover

2011-08-12 Thread Cotty
On 10/8/11, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

How strong is the roof? ;-)

Strong enough!!! ;-)

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Re: GESO - Land Rover

2011-08-10 Thread mike wilson

On 10/08/2011 00:01, Cotty wrote:

On 7/8/11, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:


I would think it's at least twice as fuel stingy.


Filled up the Connect - 50 quid got me 400 miles

The Landy was 90 quid for 275 miles.


How strong is the roof? ;-)

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Re: GESO - Land Rover

2011-08-09 Thread Cotty
On 7/8/11, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

 I would think it's at least twice as fuel stingy.

Filled up the Connect - 50 quid got me 400 miles

The Landy was 90 quid for 275 miles.

D'oh!!!

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Re: GESO - Land Rover

2011-08-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 7/8/11, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

 I would think it's at least twice as fuel stingy.

 Filled up the Connect - 50 quid got me 400 miles

 The Landy was 90 quid for 275 miles.

 D'oh!!!

2.6x more on fuel consumption cannot be a bad thing! :-)

Buying the Prius after driving the Freelander for a few years netted a
very similar improvement in fuel economy, about 2.3x. Never mind
service costs... That went down by well over 80%. I've never spent
more than US $190 for a Prius service, and generally speaking it's
more like US $75. I don't think I ever spent less than $400 on a
service visit with the Freelander!

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Re: GESO - Land Rover

2011-08-08 Thread Boris Liberman

On 8/7/2011 23:58, Cotty wrote:

Hey, just had a thought - I produced a gallery shot with our old clunker
*ist Ds and 18-55 for eBay - doesn't look half bad I thought  :-)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=230657049270

Sad day to sell it but I need to pay some tax so hey hum.

Got a Ford Tourneo Connect instead !!


Sad. I hope that Range Rover we hitched a ride with you on is still 
going strong. I hope your Ford is not made in Turkey. No offense, 
Bulent, it is just that the locally sold cars that were produced in 
Turkey are often not very reliable.


Boris


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Re: GESO - Land Rover

2011-08-08 Thread Walter Hamler
Boris, the same can be said for some of the cars made here in the US.
Fortunately Ford has a pretty darn good reputation right now. I see a
lot of that model Ford being used in the small business world. They
are very practical vehicles and a lot more economical on fuel than the
traditional panel vans of yesteryear!

Walt

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 8/7/2011 23:58, Cotty wrote:

 Hey, just had a thought - I produced a gallery shot with our old clunker
 *ist Ds and 18-55 for eBay - doesn't look half bad I thought  :-)

 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=230657049270

 Sad day to sell it but I need to pay some tax so hey hum.

 Got a Ford Tourneo Connect instead !!

 Sad. I hope that Range Rover we hitched a ride with you on is still going
 strong. I hope your Ford is not made in Turkey. No offense, Bulent, it is
 just that the locally sold cars that were produced in Turkey are often not
 very reliable.

 Boris


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Re: GESO - Land Rover

2011-08-08 Thread Boris Liberman

On 8/8/2011 17:01, Walter Hamler wrote:

Boris, the same can be said for some of the cars made here in the US.
Fortunately Ford has a pretty darn good reputation right now. I see a
lot of that model Ford being used in the small business world. They
are very practical vehicles and a lot more economical on fuel than the
traditional panel vans of yesteryear!

Walt


Well, personally I had a Toyota Corolla (make 2004) that I received from 
the dealership brand new. To say the least, it wasn't too successful a 
car so much so that I was quite surprised given that it wasn't just any 
car. Three years later I got another Corolla, this time made in Japan, 
and it was a different beast all together. I am speaking about things 
such as assembly gaps or plastics or cabin noise. Both drove well, 
although both had an odd habit of getting their steering wheel out of 
balance so that in order to go straight I had to turn the steering a bit 
to the side.


The best company leasing car I drove so far was Kia C'eed (made in 
Slovakia). I drove it for 2.5 years having clocked 55,000 km - no 
problems whatsoever, it just worked and nicely too. Presently I drive 
Peugeot 308 (made in France), which is a pampering and comforting car, 
but it was the very first since 2004 (that Corolla was my first company 
leasing car) that broke midway to work.


Boris


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Re: GESO - Land Rover

2011-08-08 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 Hey, just had a thought - I produced a gallery shot with our old clunker
 *ist Ds and 18-55 for eBay - doesn't look half bad I thought  :-)

 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=230657049270

 Sad day to sell it but I need to pay some tax so hey hum.

 Got a Ford Tourneo Connect instead !!

Nothing more English than a Land Rover, is there?  Okay, I guess there
are Jags.  And Aston Martins.  Roundabouts.

Still lovely photo, too bad it has to go.

That little Ford van will more than serve your needs, likely with much
lower operating costs.  However I wouldn't want to be in one of them
when a rhino attacks!

;-)

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Re: GESO - Land Rover

2011-08-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Frank,
I just love all the Uppies and Socker Moms who are driving their Range
Rovers here in Chicago.
It's probably a 1,000+ mile drive to the nearest spot for a Rhino
attack, or off roading for that matter.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:40 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 That little Ford van will more than serve your needs, likely with much
 lower operating costs.  However I wouldn't want to be in one of them
 when a rhino attacks!


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Re: GESO - Land Rover

2011-08-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Let's see the original Land Rover was built on a Jeep chassis.  The last 
vehicle that actually looked like a Land Rover was a Toyota Land 
Cruser.  Rover was sold to Ford, who beyond all expectations actually 
improved Rover's quality, but Ford was unable to make a profit on Rover 
so they sold it to Tata.   So really there's not much about Rover that's 
English at all...


On 8/8/2011 10:40 AM, frank theriault wrote:

On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Cottycotty...@mac.com  wrote:

Hey, just had a thought - I produced a gallery shot with our old clunker
*ist Ds and 18-55 for eBay - doesn't look half bad I thought  :-)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=230657049270

Sad day to sell it but I need to pay some tax so hey hum.

Got a Ford Tourneo Connect instead !!

Nothing more English than a Land Rover, is there?  Okay, I guess there
are Jags.  And Aston Martins.  Roundabouts.

Still lovely photo, too bad it has to go.

That little Ford van will more than serve your needs, likely with much
lower operating costs.  However I wouldn't want to be in one of them
when a rhino attacks!

;-)

cheers,
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Re: GESO - Land Rover

2011-08-08 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 11:17 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Let's see the original Land Rover was built on a Jeep chassis.  The last
 vehicle that actually looked like a Land Rover was a Toyota Land Cruser.
  Rover was sold to Ford, who beyond all expectations actually improved
 Rover's quality, but Ford was unable to make a profit on Rover so they sold
 it to Tata.   So really there's not much about Rover that's English at
 all...

Uh-huh.  And Jaguar is also owned by Tata now.  And BMW is making Minis

I dunno.  Sounds pretty English to me...

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RE: GESO - Land Rover

2011-08-08 Thread Bob W
 Let's see the original Land Rover was built on a Jeep chassis.  The
 last
 vehicle that actually looked like a Land Rover was a Toyota Land
 Cruser.  Rover was sold to Ford, who beyond all expectations actually
 improved Rover's quality, but Ford was unable to make a profit on Rover
 so they sold it to Tata.   So really there's not much about Rover
 that's
 English at all...
 

Even the badge is Norwegian
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2006/08/new_badge_1.jpg

oops, I mean

http://www.vehicle-engineer.com/Sections/thumbs/badge_rover_mono.jpg

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Re: GESO - Land Rover

2011-08-08 Thread John Sessoms

From: frank theriault

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 11:17 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

Let's see the original Land Rover was built on a Jeep chassis. ?The last
vehicle that actually looked like a Land Rover was a Toyota Land Cruser.
?Rover was sold to Ford, who beyond all expectations actually improved
Rover's quality, but Ford was unable to make a profit on Rover so they sold
it to Tata. ? So really there's not much about Rover that's English at
all...

Uh-huh.  And Jaguar is also owned by Tata now.  And BMW is making Minis

I dunno.  Sounds pretty English to me...

cheers,
frank


BMW bought Rover in the first place to get the rights to the Mini. They 
turned around and sold Land Rover to Ford almost immediately.


I think Ford ended up having to sell Rover  Jaguar together to get 
anyone to take Jaguar.


The other orphan from Rover is MG. Last I heard the they were bought by 
a Chinese company Nanjing Auto, who were in turn merged with SAIC and 
they have an MG6 in production.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6i9Xo-BgHY

Back in 2008 or so there was a rumor that they were going to lease a 
U.S. factory and bring the MG marque back in the U.S. market. Looks like 
the bank crash in Sept 2008 killed that idea ... at least for now.


I'd like to see them come back here.


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Re: GESO - Land Rover

2011-08-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Actually it seems to be the other way around.  Ford had lined up a buyer 
for Jaguar who balked at having to take Rover with it, then Tata stepped in.



On 8/8/2011 10:37 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: frank theriault

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 11:17 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
Let's see the original Land Rover was built on a Jeep chassis. ?The 
last
vehicle that actually looked like a Land Rover was a Toyota Land 
Cruser.

?Rover was sold to Ford, who beyond all expectations actually improved
Rover's quality, but Ford was unable to make a profit on Rover so 
they sold

it to Tata. ? So really there's not much about Rover that's English at
all...

Uh-huh.  And Jaguar is also owned by Tata now.  And BMW is making Minis

I dunno.  Sounds pretty English to me...

cheers,
frank


BMW bought Rover in the first place to get the rights to the Mini. 
They turned around and sold Land Rover to Ford almost immediately.


I think Ford ended up having to sell Rover  Jaguar together to get 
anyone to take Jaguar.


The other orphan from Rover is MG. Last I heard the they were bought 
by a Chinese company Nanjing Auto, who were in turn merged with SAIC 
and they have an MG6 in production.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6i9Xo-BgHY

Back in 2008 or so there was a rumor that they were going to lease a 
U.S. factory and bring the MG marque back in the U.S. market. Looks 
like the bank crash in Sept 2008 killed that idea ... at least for now.


I'd like to see them come back here.


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GESO - Land Rover

2011-08-07 Thread Cotty
Hey, just had a thought - I produced a gallery shot with our old clunker
*ist Ds and 18-55 for eBay - doesn't look half bad I thought  :-)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=230657049270

Sad day to sell it but I need to pay some tax so hey hum.

Got a Ford Tourneo Connect instead !!

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RE: GESO - Land Rover

2011-08-07 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Cotty

 Hey, just had a thought - I produced a gallery shot with our old
 clunker
 *ist Ds and 18-55 for eBay - doesn't look half bad I thought  :-)
 
 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=230657049270
 
 Sad day to sell it but I need to pay some tax so hey hum.
 

Damn shame - lovely vehicle.

 Got a Ford Tourneo Connect instead !!
 

No idea what that is, but I bet it can't ford every stream.

B


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Re: GESO - Land Rover

2011-08-07 Thread Jack Davis
Matter of fact, it looks seriously good!

Jack

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 Date: Sunday, August 7, 2011, 1:58 PM
 Hey, just had a thought - I produced
 a gallery shot with our old clunker
 *ist Ds and 18-55 for eBay - doesn't look half bad I
 thought  :-)
 
 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=230657049270
 
 Sad day to sell it but I need to pay some tax so hey hum.
 
 Got a Ford Tourneo Connect instead !!
 
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Re: GESO - Land Rover

2011-08-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice vehicle, well photographed. But you won't regret the move to the Connect. 
That's an excellent vehicle, and I would think it's at least twice as fuel 
stingy.
Paul
On Aug 7, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Cotty wrote:

 Hey, just had a thought - I produced a gallery shot with our old clunker
 *ist Ds and 18-55 for eBay - doesn't look half bad I thought  :-)
 
 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=230657049270
 
 Sad day to sell it but I need to pay some tax so hey hum.
 
 Got a Ford Tourneo Connect instead !!
 
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Re: GESO - Land Rover

2011-08-07 Thread Christine Aguila
Congrats on the sale, Cotty!  Nice shots and I'm glad it all worked out for 
you.  Cheers, Christine



On Aug 7, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Cotty wrote:

 Hey, just had a thought - I produced a gallery shot with our old clunker
 *ist Ds and 18-55 for eBay - doesn't look half bad I thought  :-)
 
 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=230657049270
 
 Sad day to sell it but I need to pay some tax so hey hum.
 
 Got a Ford Tourneo Connect instead !!
 
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