Re: Lens Purchase dilemma

2015-07-08 Thread Paul

I think there must have been a third guy in there somewhere.

-p

On 7/8/2015 2:11 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



Paul wrote:

My God!!! We must have been married to the same woman. :)


But which one of you did she run off with?



-p

On 7/6/2015 11:38 AM, John wrote:

My EX was not the forgiving kind. The best thing that happened in our
marriage was when she ran off with another man.

On 7/6/2015 10:14 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

Don't ask for permission, ask for forgiveness!


-Original Message-

From: John sesso...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Lens Purchase dilemma

I was going to post some snark about having to get your wife's
permission to buy stuff, until I got to thinking about life with my
EX while we were still married.

Not only did I not buy anything for myself during that time, I wasn't
even allowed to play with the toys I already owned. Had to sell my
motorcycle  didn't play guitar for more than 5 years.









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Re: Lens Purchase dilemma

2015-07-08 Thread Larry Colen



Paul wrote:

My God!!! We must have been married to the same woman. :)


But which one of you did she run off with?



-p

On 7/6/2015 11:38 AM, John wrote:

My EX was not the forgiving kind. The best thing that happened in our
marriage was when she ran off with another man.

On 7/6/2015 10:14 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

Don't ask for permission, ask for forgiveness!


-Original Message-

From: John sesso...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Lens Purchase dilemma

I was going to post some snark about having to get your wife's
permission to buy stuff, until I got to thinking about life with my
EX while we were still married.

Not only did I not buy anything for myself during that time, I wasn't
even allowed to play with the toys I already owned. Had to sell my
motorcycle  didn't play guitar for more than 5 years.







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Re: Lens Purchase dilemma

2015-07-07 Thread John

I don't think he would have had the nerve.

When she left, she told me all about him. I had a little talk with him
 told him he could have her, but if they tried to take anything from my
house, I'd take it back out of his ass.

On 7/6/2015 4:06 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

Did he call and ask you to take her back?  I have a friend who actually
had that happen.

On 7/6/2015 12:38 PM, John wrote:

My EX was not the forgiving kind. The best thing that happened in our
marriage was when she ran off with another man.

On 7/6/2015 10:14 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

Don't ask for permission, ask for forgiveness!


-Original Message-

From: John sesso...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Lens Purchase dilemma

I was going to post some snark about having to get your wife's
permission to buy stuff, until I got to thinking about life with my
EX while we were still married.

Not only did I not buy anything for myself during that time, I wasn't
even allowed to play with the toys I already owned. Had to sell my
motorcycle  didn't play guitar for more than 5 years.








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Re: Lens Purchase dilemma

2015-07-07 Thread Paul

My God!!!  We must have been married to the same woman.  :)

-p

On 7/6/2015 11:38 AM, John wrote:

My EX was not the forgiving kind. The best thing that happened in our
marriage was when she ran off with another man.

On 7/6/2015 10:14 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

Don't ask for permission, ask for forgiveness!


-Original Message-

From: John sesso...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Lens Purchase dilemma

I was going to post some snark about having to get your wife's
permission to buy stuff, until I got to thinking about life with my
EX while we were still married.

Not only did I not buy anything for myself during that time, I wasn't
even allowed to play with the toys I already owned. Had to sell my
motorcycle  didn't play guitar for more than 5 years.





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Re: Lens Purchase dilemma

2015-07-06 Thread Jack Davis
Good'no Darren! :o)

J

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 On Jul 6, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Reminds me of the old joke about the State Patrolman who pulled over
 an older gentleman for traveling at a high rate of speed. When he
 approached the man the Patrolman said, I'll make you a deal. If you
 give me an excuse that I've never heard before, I'll let you off with
 a warning. The driver said, 5 years ago, my wife ran off with a State
 Patrolman. I was afraid that it was you and you were going to give her
 back. The Patrolman took off his sunglasses and said, Slow it down
 and have a nice day, sir. and walked back to his car.
 
 On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:06 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Did he call and ask you to take her back?  I have a friend who actually had
 that happen.
 
 On 7/6/2015 12:38 PM, John wrote:
 
 My EX was not the forgiving kind. The best thing that happened in our
 marriage was when she ran off with another man.
 
 On 7/6/2015 10:14 AM, Ken Waller wrote:
 
 Don't ask for permission, ask for forgiveness!
 
 
 -Original Message-
 
 From: John sesso...@earthlink.net
 Subject: Re: Lens Purchase dilemma
 
 I was going to post some snark about having to get your wife's
 permission to buy stuff, until I got to thinking about life with my
 EX while we were still married.
 
 Not only did I not buy anything for myself during that time, I wasn't
 even allowed to play with the toys I already owned. Had to sell my
 motorcycle  didn't play guitar for more than 5 years.
 
 
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Re: Lens Purchase dilemma

2015-07-06 Thread Darren Addy
Reminds me of the old joke about the State Patrolman who pulled over
an older gentleman for traveling at a high rate of speed. When he
approached the man the Patrolman said, I'll make you a deal. If you
give me an excuse that I've never heard before, I'll let you off with
a warning. The driver said, 5 years ago, my wife ran off with a State
Patrolman. I was afraid that it was you and you were going to give her
back. The Patrolman took off his sunglasses and said, Slow it down
and have a nice day, sir. and walked back to his car.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:06 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Did he call and ask you to take her back?  I have a friend who actually had
 that happen.

 On 7/6/2015 12:38 PM, John wrote:

 My EX was not the forgiving kind. The best thing that happened in our
 marriage was when she ran off with another man.

 On 7/6/2015 10:14 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

 Don't ask for permission, ask for forgiveness!


 -Original Message-

 From: John sesso...@earthlink.net
 Subject: Re: Lens Purchase dilemma

 I was going to post some snark about having to get your wife's
 permission to buy stuff, until I got to thinking about life with my
 EX while we were still married.

 Not only did I not buy anything for myself during that time, I wasn't
 even allowed to play with the toys I already owned. Had to sell my
 motorcycle  didn't play guitar for more than 5 years.




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Re: Lens Purchase dilemma

2015-07-06 Thread P.J. Alling
Did he call and ask you to take her back?  I have a friend who actually 
had that happen.


On 7/6/2015 12:38 PM, John wrote:

My EX was not the forgiving kind. The best thing that happened in our
marriage was when she ran off with another man.

On 7/6/2015 10:14 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

Don't ask for permission, ask for forgiveness!


-Original Message-

From: John sesso...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Lens Purchase dilemma

I was going to post some snark about having to get your wife's
permission to buy stuff, until I got to thinking about life with my
EX while we were still married.

Not only did I not buy anything for myself during that time, I wasn't
even allowed to play with the toys I already owned. Had to sell my
motorcycle  didn't play guitar for more than 5 years.






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Re: Lens Purchase dilemma

2015-07-06 Thread John

My EX was not the forgiving kind. The best thing that happened in our
marriage was when she ran off with another man.

On 7/6/2015 10:14 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

Don't ask for permission, ask for forgiveness!


-Original Message-

From: John sesso...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Lens Purchase dilemma

I was going to post some snark about having to get your wife's
permission to buy stuff, until I got to thinking about life with my
EX while we were still married.

Not only did I not buy anything for myself during that time, I wasn't
even allowed to play with the toys I already owned. Had to sell my
motorcycle  didn't play guitar for more than 5 years.



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Re: Lens Purchase dilemma

2015-07-06 Thread Ken Waller
Don't ask for permission, ask for forgiveness!


-Original Message-
From: John sesso...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Lens Purchase dilemma

I was going to post some snark about having to get your wife's
permission to buy stuff, until I got to thinking about life with my
EX while we were still married.

Not only did I not buy anything for myself during that time, I wasn't
even allowed to play with the toys I already owned. Had to sell my
motorcycle  didn't play guitar for more than 5 years.

On 6/28/2015 10:44 PM, Knarf wrote:
 Wise words, Morris (nice to see you de-lurk, however briefly).

 As I said, I did it for an amplifier once. Not just an amp, a Creek
 CAS 4040. A little jewel of an amp.

 I won't say it wasn't worth it (one hell of an amp, after all), but
 in retrospect there were better ways to obtain it.
 LOL.

 Cheers,

 frank

 On 28 June, 2015 10:30:01 PM EDT, Morris Galloway 
 morris-gallo...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 How much marital capitol?  As a lurker who occasionally takes divorce
 cases, and often ends up making the Husband Pay me to get Her a
 divorce... Are You Kidding?
 Over a Camera Lens?  Ask for it for Late Father's Day -- or any other
 holiday, but don't, Don't, rile up the dinner table!  G. (Back to
 Lurking.)


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Re: Lens purchase dilemma

2015-06-29 Thread Jostein Øksne
There's not enough information here. 
The guy has already shelled out for a K-3 and a Sigma lens. We don't get to 
know how much that strained the marital capital. For all we know he could be 
just looking for an excuse to go one step too far for his budget on his 
shopping crusade, hoping that a forum of photography nuts will cheer him on.

The DA 40 isn't all that rare. There will be more opportunities down the road. 

Jostein


Den 29. juni 2015 01.58.05 CEST, skrev Stanley Halpin 
s...@stans-photography.info:
I know this guy, Pentax user, used to be on PDML. Maybe still lurking
but shy?

Anyway, he is asking the following:

 Need some advice from the group. 
 You know, for a friend. 
 Say you noticed someone that's probably about two hours drive from
your home is selling a DA 40mm 2.8 for $100. Not the teeny tiny one.
The bigger one. 
 Consider that my friend currently owns a 35 macro limited and a M
40mm. He has already this year purchased a K3 and a very reasonably
priced used Sigma 17-50 2.8. His normal annual budget for photo related
things is nearly zero. So this year is a large anomaly already. 
 
 How much marital capitol would you think is appropriate to spend on
such a purchase?

Any suggestions? I will pass the accumulated wisdom of the group back
to him…

stan

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Re: Lens purchase dilemma

2015-06-29 Thread John

On 6/28/2015 7:58 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

I know this guy, Pentax user, used to be on PDML. Maybe still lurking
but shy?

Anyway, he is asking the following:


Need some advice from the group. You know, for a friend. Say you
noticed someone that's probably about two hours drive from your
home is selling a DA 40mm 2.8 for $100. Not the teeny tiny one. The
bigger one. Consider that my friend currently owns a 35 macro
limited and a M 40mm. He has already this year purchased a K3 and a
very reasonably priced used Sigma 17-50 2.8. His normal annual
budget for photo related things is nearly zero. So this year is a
large anomaly already.

How much marital capitol would you think is appropriate to spend on
such a purchase?


Any suggestions? I will pass the accumulated wisdom of the group back
to him…

stan



You don't need to ask us, you need to ask *HER* ... or anyway, your 
friend does.


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Re: Lens Purchase dilemma

2015-06-29 Thread John

I was going to post some snark about having to get your wife's
permission to buy stuff, until I got to thinking about life with my
EX while we were still married.

Not only did I not buy anything for myself during that time, I wasn't
even allowed to play with the toys I already owned. Had to sell my
motorcycle  didn't play guitar for more than 5 years.

On 6/28/2015 10:44 PM, Knarf wrote:

Wise words, Morris (nice to see you de-lurk, however briefly).

As I said, I did it for an amplifier once. Not just an amp, a Creek
CAS 4040. A little jewel of an amp.

I won't say it wasn't worth it (one hell of an amp, after all), but
in retrospect there were better ways to obtain it.
LOL.

Cheers,

frank

On 28 June, 2015 10:30:01 PM EDT, Morris Galloway 
morris-gallo...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

How much marital capitol?  As a lurker who occasionally takes divorce
cases, and often ends up making the Husband Pay me to get Her a
divorce... Are You Kidding?
Over a Camera Lens?  Ask for it for Late Father's Day -- or any other
holiday, but don't, Don't, rile up the dinner table!  G. (Back to
Lurking.)




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Re: Lens purchase dilemma

2015-06-29 Thread Stanley Halpin
Thanks all for your input. On balance, your suggestions mirror my own: I told 
him that I had had the DA40 and had sold it, partially because its FOV was 
redundant with several others, and partially because I didn’t find it all that 
special. But for $100, if it were a 10 minute drive rather than a 2 hour drive 
I would be severely tempted.

I’ll pass a redacted compendium of your suggestions on to the one who is 
tempted.

stan
 On Jun 29, 2015, at 12:28 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 You don't need to ask us, you need to ask *HER* ... or anyway, your friend 
 does.


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Lens purchase dilemma

2015-06-28 Thread Stanley Halpin
I know this guy, Pentax user, used to be on PDML. Maybe still lurking but shy?

Anyway, he is asking the following:

 Need some advice from the group. 
 You know, for a friend. 
 Say you noticed someone that's probably about two hours drive from your home 
 is selling a DA 40mm 2.8 for $100. Not the teeny tiny one. The bigger one. 
 Consider that my friend currently owns a 35 macro limited and a M 40mm. He 
 has already this year purchased a K3 and a very reasonably priced used Sigma 
 17-50 2.8. His normal annual budget for photo related things is nearly zero. 
 So this year is a large anomaly already. 
 
 How much marital capitol would you think is appropriate to spend on such a 
 purchase?

Any suggestions? I will pass the accumulated wisdom of the group back to him…

stan
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Re: Lens purchase dilemma

2015-06-28 Thread Darren Addy
Frankly, give the lenses you mentioned, the *need* for the DA40 is
virtually nil. On the other hand, if he/she finds himself using the
40mm focal length a lot and wishing for AF, and thinks the prime is
going to perform better than the Sigma at 40mm, then $100 for the
Limited is probably a good deal. I'd buy it just to flip it at $100.


On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Stanley Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 I know this guy, Pentax user, used to be on PDML. Maybe still lurking but shy?

 Anyway, he is asking the following:

 Need some advice from the group.
 You know, for a friend.
 Say you noticed someone that's probably about two hours drive from your home 
 is selling a DA 40mm 2.8 for $100. Not the teeny tiny one. The bigger one.
 Consider that my friend currently owns a 35 macro limited and a M 40mm. He 
 has already this year purchased a K3 and a very reasonably priced used Sigma 
 17-50 2.8. His normal annual budget for photo related things is nearly zero. 
 So this year is a large anomaly already.

 How much marital capitol would you think is appropriate to spend on such a 
 purchase?

 Any suggestions? I will pass the accumulated wisdom of the group back to him…

 stan
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Re: Lens purchase dilemma

2015-06-28 Thread P.J. Alling
The M 40 and the DA 40 are supposed to be identical optically so if he's 
happy with the M 40's IQ it comes down to is the convenience of auto 
exposure and auto focus worth spending his marital capitol.  I don't 
have to worry about that, but I do have an M 40 f2.8 and an FA 43mm 
f1.9, and if I hadn't gotten the M as a lens cap on a classic film 
camera body I wanted, quite some time ago, I wouldn't bother.


That said, $100 for the DA 40mm f2.8 Limited is a pretty good price.

On 6/28/2015 7:58 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

I know this guy, Pentax user, used to be on PDML. Maybe still lurking but shy?

Anyway, he is asking the following:


Need some advice from the group.
You know, for a friend.
Say you noticed someone that's probably about two hours drive from your home is selling a 
DA 40mm 2.8 for $100. Not the teeny tiny one. The bigger one.
Consider that my friend currently owns a 35 macro limited and a M 40mm. He 
has already this year purchased a K3 and a very reasonably priced used Sigma 17-50 2.8. 
His normal annual budget for photo related things is nearly zero. So this year is a large 
anomaly already.

How much marital capitol would you think is appropriate to spend on such a 
purchase?

Any suggestions? I will pass the accumulated wisdom of the group back to him…

stan



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Re: Lens purchase dilemma

2015-06-28 Thread Yolanda Rowe
For the autofocus capability at that price, I'd spend the marital
capital. On the other hand, I have to confess that I've been in
trouble before due to LBA.

Add it to the collection and say that it followed you home...

Cheers!

Yonnie

On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 7:11 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 The M 40 and the DA 40 are supposed to be identical optically so if he's
 happy with the M 40's IQ it comes down to is the convenience of auto
 exposure and auto focus worth spending his marital capitol.  I don't have to
 worry about that, but I do have an M 40 f2.8 and an FA 43mm f1.9, and if I
 hadn't gotten the M as a lens cap on a classic film camera body I wanted,
 quite some time ago, I wouldn't bother.

 That said, $100 for the DA 40mm f2.8 Limited is a pretty good price.

 On 6/28/2015 7:58 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

 I know this guy, Pentax user, used to be on PDML. Maybe still lurking but
 shy?

 Anyway, he is asking the following:

 Need some advice from the group.
 You know, for a friend.
 Say you noticed someone that's probably about two hours drive from your
 home is selling a DA 40mm 2.8 for $100. Not the teeny tiny one. The bigger
 one.
 Consider that my friend currently owns a 35 macro limited and a M 40mm.
 He has already this year purchased a K3 and a very reasonably priced used
 Sigma 17-50 2.8. His normal annual budget for photo related things is nearly
 zero. So this year is a large anomaly already.

 How much marital capitol would you think is appropriate to spend on such
 a purchase?

 Any suggestions? I will pass the accumulated wisdom of the group back to
 him…

 stan



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Re: Lens purchase dilemma

2015-06-28 Thread Knarf
I tried that with a stereo integrated amplifier once.

Didn't work...

Cheers,

frank

On 28 June, 2015 9:07:59 PM EDT, Yolanda Rowe ypr...@gmail.com wrote:
For the autofocus capability at that price, I'd spend the marital
capital. On the other hand, I have to confess that I've been in
trouble before due to LBA.

Add it to the collection and say that it followed you home...

Cheers!

Yonnie

On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 7:11 PM, P.J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 The M 40 and the DA 40 are supposed to be identical optically so if
he's
 happy with the M 40's IQ it comes down to is the convenience of auto
 exposure and auto focus worth spending his marital capitol.  I don't
have to
 worry about that, but I do have an M 40 f2.8 and an FA 43mm f1.9, and
if I
 hadn't gotten the M as a lens cap on a classic film camera body I
wanted,
 quite some time ago, I wouldn't bother.

 That said, $100 for the DA 40mm f2.8 Limited is a pretty good price.

 On 6/28/2015 7:58 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

 I know this guy, Pentax user, used to be on PDML. Maybe still
lurking but
 shy?

 Anyway, he is asking the following:

 Need some advice from the group.
 You know, for a friend.
 Say you noticed someone that's probably about two hours drive from
your
 home is selling a DA 40mm 2.8 for $100. Not the teeny tiny one. The
bigger
 one.
 Consider that my friend currently owns a 35 macro limited and a M
40mm.
 He has already this year purchased a K3 and a very reasonably
priced used
 Sigma 17-50 2.8. His normal annual budget for photo related things
is nearly
 zero. So this year is a large anomaly already.

 How much marital capitol would you think is appropriate to spend on
such
 a purchase?

 Any suggestions? I will pass the accumulated wisdom of the group
back to
 him…

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Re: Lens purchase dilemma

2015-06-28 Thread Larry Colen



Knarf wrote:

I tried that with a stereo integrated amplifier once.

Didn't work...


If it was as nice as my old NAD 3020, then it was probably worth it.

I quite like my DA40 ltd.  I really ought to use it for more than just a 
body cap more often.



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Lens Purchase dilemma

2015-06-28 Thread Morris Galloway
How much marital capitol?  As a lurker who occasionally takes divorce 
cases, and often ends up making the Husband Pay me to get Her a 
divorce... Are You Kidding?
Over a Camera Lens?  Ask for it for Late Father's Day -- or any other 
holiday, but don't, Don't, rile up the dinner table!  G. (Back to Lurking.)




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Re: Lens Purchase dilemma

2015-06-28 Thread Knarf
Wise words, Morris (nice to see you de-lurk, however briefly).

As I said, I did it for an amplifier once. Not just an amp, a Creek CAS 4040. A 
little jewel of an amp.

I won't say it wasn't worth it (one hell of an amp, after all), but in 
retrospect there were better ways to obtain it.

LOL.

Cheers,

frank

On 28 June, 2015 10:30:01 PM EDT, Morris Galloway 
morris-gallo...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
How much marital capitol?  As a lurker who occasionally takes divorce 
cases, and often ends up making the Husband Pay me to get Her a 
divorce... Are You Kidding?
Over a Camera Lens?  Ask for it for Late Father's Day -- or any other 
holiday, but don't, Don't, rile up the dinner table!  G. (Back to
Lurking.)

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Re: Lens purchase dilemma

2015-06-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I had both lenses and didn't like the DA40 very much. 

Marital capital? over a $100 lens … 
On the other hand, if you have a partner who is so tight about YOUR enjoyment 
budget, and you can actually buy the thing without compromising health, home, 
food, etc, … blow the wad and find a better way to live. 

G

 On Jun 28, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info 
 wrote:
 
 I know this guy, Pentax user, used to be on PDML. Maybe still lurking but shy?
 
 Anyway, he is asking the following:
 
 Need some advice from the group. 
 You know, for a friend. 
 Say you noticed someone that's probably about two hours drive from your home 
 is selling a DA 40mm 2.8 for $100. Not the teeny tiny one. The bigger one. 
 Consider that my friend currently owns a 35 macro limited and a M 40mm. He 
 has already this year purchased a K3 and a very reasonably priced used Sigma 
 17-50 2.8. His normal annual budget for photo related things is nearly zero. 
 So this year is a large anomaly already. 
 
 How much marital capitol would you think is appropriate to spend on such a 
 purchase?
 
 Any suggestions? I will pass the accumulated wisdom of the group back to him…


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