Re: OT: Dyspeptic Rant on Modern CD players
Am 16.12.21 um 20:22 schrieb John Sessoms: Someday I might do the same for my old LPs. There's an audiophile shop here in town that has a record cleaner .. No need. This video has taught me how to do it: http://www.vinyl-lebt.de/assets/images/CheapThrill.wmv The brush I'm using is a goat hair brush available on Amazon as a replacement for the "Okki Nokki" record washing machine. Costs about 14 euros on Amazon. As a liquid, I use 9 parts demineralised water (sold in supermarkets for ironing), one part isopropyl alcohol and one (!) drop of dishwasher liquid. For drying use ordinary kitchen paper towels as shown in the video. Works perfectly well here. There's a record shop just across the street and their super duper machine doesn't clean any better. But they charge 1,50 euro per record. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Dyspeptic Rant on Modern CD players
We're all old. Young people do everything by streaming and they're the target market for computers nowadays. On 12/16/2021 12:56 AM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: I'm with Rick on this: my CD player (which also handles USB sources) will show videos and stills with an easy and informative display, is 35x18x3cm and sits on the stack of other devices connected to my TV. In any case, why should I be forced to spend either the time or the money in converting these high quality sources, Deutsche Gramophon vinyl and CD's, into another format which is just as likely to be replaced in the future by some other whiz-kids brainchild? I'm still mad at having to buy an external CD/DVD player to connect to my latest generation PC: do the PC manufacturers think we have thrown away our source software discs? I admit to being an old fart, but I still use Lotus software written in 1990 when I need to have a secure file (on the grounds no-one else nowadays would be able open it, even if they recognised the file type). And of course, how many backup files are no longer accessible because either the creation or restore software exists (hello Microsoft), or the media is now "obsolete"? John in Brisbane -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Dyspeptic Rant on Modern CD players
I play them on my computer and use a program called Audacity to "rip" them while listening. The CDs then get stored where I won't mess them up handling them. Someday I might do the same for my old LPs. There's an audiophile shop here in town that has a record cleaner that will restore them to better than new condition, so I could play them one more time and get clean recordings. The cost is $5/disk, so I won't be doing it all at once. On 12/14/2021 8:40 PM, Rick Womer wrote: My collection is overwhelmingly classical, and consists of about 150 CDs and twice that many LPs. I have no desire to spend time ripping them to alternative methods of storage. Rick On Dec 14, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 14.12.21 um 22:54 schrieb Bob Pdml: Get rid of them all. I got rid of mine years ago because they, and the player, took up so much space. The cases are just more useless plastic, and at London property prices I figured I could get better value out of the square footage. I buy most of my music on second-hand cds from German ebay dealer Medimops. Their prices are most attractive and shipping is free. They have a lot of stuff that wouldn't be available from the usual streaming sites. Once they arrive, I rip them and store them as uncompressed alac files on a NAS. This way, I can access them at various places in our flat. The Cds are stored in the basement. Ralf -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Dyspeptic Rant on Modern CD players
> On Dec 15, 2021, at 9:56 PM, > wrote: > > > And of course, how many backup files are no longer accessible because either > the creation or restore software exists (hello Microsoft), or the media is > now "obsolete”? This is why all the cool kids that traded in their DSLRs for Kodak Brownies will be laughing at the rest of us in a few years. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Dyspeptic Rant on Modern CD players
I'm with Rick on this: my CD player (which also handles USB sources) will show videos and stills with an easy and informative display, is 35x18x3cm and sits on the stack of other devices connected to my TV. In any case, why should I be forced to spend either the time or the money in converting these high quality sources, Deutsche Gramophon vinyl and CD's, into another format which is just as likely to be replaced in the future by some other whiz-kids brainchild? I'm still mad at having to buy an external CD/DVD player to connect to my latest generation PC: do the PC manufacturers think we have thrown away our source software discs? I admit to being an old fart, but I still use Lotus software written in 1990 when I need to have a secure file (on the grounds no-one else nowadays would be able open it, even if they recognised the file type). And of course, how many backup files are no longer accessible because either the creation or restore software exists (hello Microsoft), or the media is now "obsolete"? John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: Rick Womer Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 11:40 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Dyspeptic Rant on Modern CD players My collection is overwhelmingly classical, and consists of about 150 CDs and twice that many LPs. I have no desire to spend time ripping them to alternative methods of storage. Rick > On Dec 14, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > > Am 14.12.21 um 22:54 schrieb Bob Pdml: > >> Get rid of them all. I got rid of mine years ago because they, and the >> player, took up so much space. The cases are just more useless plastic, and >> at London property prices I figured I could get better value out of the >> square footage. > > I buy most of my music on second-hand cds from German ebay dealer > Medimops. Their prices are most attractive and shipping is free. They > have a lot of stuff that wouldn't be available from the usual > streaming sites. > > Once they arrive, I rip them and store them as uncompressed alac files > on a NAS. This way, I can access them at various places in our flat. > The Cds are stored in the basement. > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : > http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Web : http://www.fotoralf.de > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to > pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the > link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Dyspeptic Rant on Modern CD players
I thought Vinyl was making a comeback... I only have about 200 LP's , 20-30 78's, and 40 cd's mostly classical but some jazz, folk, blues.. whatever rock I had was an ex husband's and I sold most of it. CD player broke.. but I have a mid 20th century portable phonograph. RIck, if you find a CD player that gives you the info you want I could use one also... but not for music, for my travel notes from 2001, 2002 that I recorded on casettes then transfered to cd"s with a machine that I was given and no longer know how to use.. very fancy... but it is big and heavy so I'm not using it to play CD's now. ann On 12/14/2021 8:40 PM, Rick Womer wrote: My collection is overwhelmingly classical, and consists of about 150 CDs and twice that many LPs. I have no desire to spend time ripping them to alternative methods of storage. Rick On Dec 14, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 14.12.21 um 22:54 schrieb Bob Pdml: Get rid of them all. I got rid of mine years ago because they, and the player, took up so much space. The cases are just more useless plastic, and at London property prices I figured I could get better value out of the square footage. I buy most of my music on second-hand cds from German ebay dealer Medimops. Their prices are most attractive and shipping is free. They have a lot of stuff that wouldn't be available from the usual streaming sites. Once they arrive, I rip them and store them as uncompressed alac files on a NAS. This way, I can access them at various places in our flat. The Cds are stored in the basement. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Dyspeptic Rant on Modern CD players
My collection is overwhelmingly classical, and consists of about 150 CDs and twice that many LPs. I have no desire to spend time ripping them to alternative methods of storage. Rick > On Dec 14, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > > Am 14.12.21 um 22:54 schrieb Bob Pdml: > >> Get rid of them all. I got rid of mine years ago because they, and the >> player, took up so much space. The cases are just more useless plastic, and >> at London property prices I figured I could get better value out of the >> square footage. > > I buy most of my music on second-hand cds from German ebay dealer > Medimops. Their prices are most attractive and shipping is free. They > have a lot of stuff that wouldn't be available from the usual streaming > sites. > > Once they arrive, I rip them and store them as uncompressed alac files > on a NAS. This way, I can access them at various places in our flat. The > Cds are stored in the basement. > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Web : http://www.fotoralf.de > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Dyspeptic Rant on Modern CD players
Am 14.12.21 um 22:54 schrieb Bob Pdml: Get rid of them all. I got rid of mine years ago because they, and the player, took up so much space. The cases are just more useless plastic, and at London property prices I figured I could get better value out of the square footage. I buy most of my music on second-hand cds from German ebay dealer Medimops. Their prices are most attractive and shipping is free. They have a lot of stuff that wouldn't be available from the usual streaming sites. Once they arrive, I rip them and store them as uncompressed alac files on a NAS. This way, I can access them at various places in our flat. The Cds are stored in the basement. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Dyspeptic Rant on Modern CD players
> On 14 Dec 2021, at 21:41, Rick Womer wrote: > > Around 35 years ago, I bought my first CD player, a Denon. It provided about > 25 years of trouble-free service. > > About 10 years ago it died, and I replaced it with another Denon. Two things > annoyed me: The buttons were labelled with dark grey symbols on a black > background (impossible to see in dim light), and the display was rubbish. > Where the old player had shown the number of tracks, the track being played, > the time remaining on that track, and the time remaining on the whole disk, > the new one just had the track number and the time remaining on that track. > > Denon #2 died last month after about 9 years, and I just bought a Yamaha. The > symbols over the buttons are a bit more visible, but it has the same stingy > information as the second Denon. > > C’mon. I can’t believe that a CD player that provided more information would > be significantly more expensive to produce. > > Rant complete. Get rid of them all. I got rid of mine years ago because they, and the player, took up so much space. The cases are just more useless plastic, and at London property prices I figured I could get better value out of the square footage. When I want to listen to music now I stream it to my hearing aids, but you can rip the CDs to some sort of storage device (not vinyl…) and use a software player that gives you the information you want. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Dyspeptic Rant on Modern CD players
CD players are so last century. bill On Tue., Dec. 14, 2021, 3:41 p.m. Rick Womer, wrote: > Around 35 years ago, I bought my first CD player, a Denon. It provided > about 25 years of trouble-free service. > > About 10 years ago it died, and I replaced it with another Denon. Two > things annoyed me: The buttons were labelled with dark grey symbols on a > black background (impossible to see in dim light), and the display was > rubbish. Where the old player had shown the number of tracks, the track > being played, the time remaining on that track, and the time remaining on > the whole disk, the new one just had the track number and the time > remaining on that track. > > Denon #2 died last month after about 9 years, and I just bought a Yamaha. > The symbols over the buttons are a bit more visible, but it has the same > stingy information as the second Denon. > > C’mon. I can’t believe that a CD player that provided more information > would be significantly more expensive to produce. > > Rant complete. > > Rick > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Dyspeptic Rant on Modern CD players
Around 35 years ago, I bought my first CD player, a Denon. It provided about 25 years of trouble-free service. About 10 years ago it died, and I replaced it with another Denon. Two things annoyed me: The buttons were labelled with dark grey symbols on a black background (impossible to see in dim light), and the display was rubbish. Where the old player had shown the number of tracks, the track being played, the time remaining on that track, and the time remaining on the whole disk, the new one just had the track number and the time remaining on that track. Denon #2 died last month after about 9 years, and I just bought a Yamaha. The symbols over the buttons are a bit more visible, but it has the same stingy information as the second Denon. C’mon. I can’t believe that a CD player that provided more information would be significantly more expensive to produce. Rant complete. Rick -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
