Re: OT: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)
On 20/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: There are a bunch of them. I didn't see any that get into what's going on in the Ukraine. It's a generic point about defending your homeland against aggression, whether external or internal. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)
On 2/22/2014 9:44 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 20/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: There are a bunch of them. I didn't see any that get into what's going on in the Ukraine. It's a generic point about defending your homeland against aggression, whether external or internal. I didn't really get that. For me it was about the sadness of any war its impact on the innocents exposed to its horrors. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)
Enter ukraine's got talent sand art in YouTube's search box it will turn up more than a dozen instances of that performance. On 2/20/2014 1:59 PM, knarf wrote: Unfortunately that video is blocked in Canada (or at least on android in Canada). Cheers, frank On 20 February, 2014 1:51:11 PM EST, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 20/02/2014, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died) Ukraine has not yet died, nor her glory, nor her freedom, Upon us, fellow Ukrainians, fate shall smile once more. Our enemies will vanish like dew in the sun, And we too shall rule, brothers, in a free land of our own. CHORUS(×2) Souls and bodies we'll lay down, all for our freedom, And we'll show that we, brothers, are of the Cossack nation! We'll stand, brothers, in bloody battle, from the Syan to the Don, We will not allow others to rule in our motherland. The Black Sea will smile and grandfather Dnieper will rejoice, For in our own Ukraine fortune shall shine again. CHORUS(×2) Our persistence and our sincere toils will be rewarded, And freedom's song will throughout all of Ukraine resound. Echoing off the Carpathians, and across the steppes rumbling, Ukraine's fame and glory will be known among all nations. CHORUS(×2) Just in case you need this in a visual form: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=518XP8prwZo; -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)
Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died) Ukraine has not yet died, nor her glory, nor her freedom, Upon us, fellow Ukrainians, fate shall smile once more. Our enemies will vanish like dew in the sun, And we too shall rule, brothers, in a free land of our own. CHORUS(×2) Souls and bodies we'll lay down, all for our freedom, And we'll show that we, brothers, are of the Cossack nation! We'll stand, brothers, in bloody battle, from the Syan to the Don, We will not allow others to rule in our motherland. The Black Sea will smile and grandfather Dnieper will rejoice, For in our own Ukraine fortune shall shine again. CHORUS(×2) Our persistence and our sincere toils will be rewarded, And freedom's song will throughout all of Ukraine resound. Echoing off the Carpathians, and across the steppes rumbling, Ukraine's fame and glory will be known among all nations. CHORUS(×2) Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvds2AIiWLA On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died) Ukraine has not yet died, nor her glory, nor her freedom, Upon us, fellow Ukrainians, fate shall smile once more. Our enemies will vanish like dew in the sun, And we too shall rule, brothers, in a free land of our own. CHORUS(×2) Souls and bodies we'll lay down, all for our freedom, And we'll show that we, brothers, are of the Cossack nation! We'll stand, brothers, in bloody battle, from the Syan to the Don, We will not allow others to rule in our motherland. The Black Sea will smile and grandfather Dnieper will rejoice, For in our own Ukraine fortune shall shine again. CHORUS(×2) Our persistence and our sincere toils will be rewarded, And freedom's song will throughout all of Ukraine resound. Echoing off the Carpathians, and across the steppes rumbling, Ukraine's fame and glory will be known among all nations. CHORUS(×2) Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)
Dan and Attila, Thanks for sharing. I feel my grandparent's hand and the Polish Eagle standing behind you. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvds2AIiWLA On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died) Ukraine has not yet died, nor her glory, nor her freedom, Upon us, fellow Ukrainians, fate shall smile once more. Our enemies will vanish like dew in the sun, And we too shall rule, brothers, in a free land of our own. CHORUS(×2) Souls and bodies we'll lay down, all for our freedom, And we'll show that we, brothers, are of the Cossack nation! We'll stand, brothers, in bloody battle, from the Syan to the Don, We will not allow others to rule in our motherland. The Black Sea will smile and grandfather Dnieper will rejoice, For in our own Ukraine fortune shall shine again. CHORUS(×2) Our persistence and our sincere toils will be rewarded, And freedom's song will throughout all of Ukraine resound. Echoing off the Carpathians, and across the steppes rumbling, Ukraine's fame and glory will be known among all nations. CHORUS(×2) Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)
I'm very uneasy when politics are brought on to this list; I recognize in saying so that I have been guilty from time to time. It's certainly hard to ignore certain things though. This is one of them. I don't pretend to know the answers. Cheers, frank On 20 February, 2014 12:04:34 PM EST, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvds2AIiWLA On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died) Ukraine has not yet died, nor her glory, nor her freedom, Upon us, fellow Ukrainians, fate shall smile once more. Our enemies will vanish like dew in the sun, And we too shall rule, brothers, in a free land of our own. CHORUS(×2) Souls and bodies we'll lay down, all for our freedom, And we'll show that we, brothers, are of the Cossack nation! We'll stand, brothers, in bloody battle, from the Syan to the Don, We will not allow others to rule in our motherland. The Black Sea will smile and grandfather Dnieper will rejoice, For in our own Ukraine fortune shall shine again. CHORUS(×2) Our persistence and our sincere toils will be rewarded, And freedom's song will throughout all of Ukraine resound. Echoing off the Carpathians, and across the steppes rumbling, Ukraine's fame and glory will be known among all nations. CHORUS(×2) Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)
On 20/02/2014, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died) Ukraine has not yet died, nor her glory, nor her freedom, Upon us, fellow Ukrainians, fate shall smile once more. Our enemies will vanish like dew in the sun, And we too shall rule, brothers, in a free land of our own. CHORUS(×2) Souls and bodies we'll lay down, all for our freedom, And we'll show that we, brothers, are of the Cossack nation! We'll stand, brothers, in bloody battle, from the Syan to the Don, We will not allow others to rule in our motherland. The Black Sea will smile and grandfather Dnieper will rejoice, For in our own Ukraine fortune shall shine again. CHORUS(×2) Our persistence and our sincere toils will be rewarded, And freedom's song will throughout all of Ukraine resound. Echoing off the Carpathians, and across the steppes rumbling, Ukraine's fame and glory will be known among all nations. CHORUS(×2) Just in case you need this in a visual form: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=518XP8prwZo; -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)
Unfortunately that video is blocked in Canada (or at least on android in Canada). Cheers, frank On 20 February, 2014 1:51:11 PM EST, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 20/02/2014, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died) Ukraine has not yet died, nor her glory, nor her freedom, Upon us, fellow Ukrainians, fate shall smile once more. Our enemies will vanish like dew in the sun, And we too shall rule, brothers, in a free land of our own. CHORUS(×2) Souls and bodies we'll lay down, all for our freedom, And we'll show that we, brothers, are of the Cossack nation! We'll stand, brothers, in bloody battle, from the Syan to the Don, We will not allow others to rule in our motherland. The Black Sea will smile and grandfather Dnieper will rejoice, For in our own Ukraine fortune shall shine again. CHORUS(×2) Our persistence and our sincere toils will be rewarded, And freedom's song will throughout all of Ukraine resound. Echoing off the Carpathians, and across the steppes rumbling, Ukraine's fame and glory will be known among all nations. CHORUS(×2) Just in case you need this in a visual form: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=518XP8prwZo; -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)
Search for Ukraine has talent and choose the one featuring Kseniya Simonov. On 20/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately that video is blocked in Canada (or at least on android in Canada). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)
There are a bunch of them. I didn't see any that get into what's going on in the Ukraine. Interesting art form though and she's quite good at it. Cheers, frank On 20 February, 2014 2:06:12 PM EST, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Search for Ukraine has talent and choose the one featuring Kseniya Simonov. On 20/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately that video is blocked in Canada (or at least on android in Canada). “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)
On Feb 20, 2014, at 2:31 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: There are a bunch of them. I didn't see any that get into what's going on in the Ukraine. The protests began when President Yanukovych ruled out an accord with the European Union and instead moved to form a close alliance with Russia and Putin. Many Ukranians, apparently, would rather be part of the union than a Russian puppet state. They’ve been occupying the square for a long time, but the demonstrations have now spread, probably because with the olympics taking place not far from there, they get more exposure. It’s an ugly situation, but most westerners, myself included, tend to come down on the people’s side and favor the Ukraine as an European Union state rather than a Russian ally. It may be politics, but it’s not something that list members are likely to get emotional about, other than lamenting a bad situation. Paul Interesting art form though and she's quite good at it. Cheers, frank On 20 February, 2014 2:06:12 PM EST, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Search for Ukraine has talent and choose the one featuring Kseniya Simonov. On 20/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately that video is blocked in Canada (or at least on android in Canada). “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)
Yes, Paul, but Ukrainians are emotional people. G The song I quoted in my original post is now the Ukrainian national anthem. It is 150 years old. The original version contained a verse that makes it quite clear who the enemy is and always has been: Oh Bohdan, Bohdan Our great hetman What for did you give Ukraine To wretched muscovites?! To return her honor, We lay our heads We shall call ourselves Ukraine's Faithful sons! Souls and bodies we'll lay down, all for our freedom, And we'll show that we, brothers, are of the Cossack nation! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Feb 20, 2014, at 2:31 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: There are a bunch of them. I didn't see any that get into what's going on in the Ukraine. The protests began when President Yanukovych ruled out an accord with the European Union and instead moved to form a close alliance with Russia and Putin. Many Ukranians, apparently, would rather be part of the union than a Russian puppet state. They’ve been occupying the square for a long time, but the demonstrations have now spread, probably because with the olympics taking place not far from there, they get more exposure. It’s an ugly situation, but most westerners, myself included, tend to come down on the people’s side and favor the Ukraine as an European Union state rather than a Russian ally. It may be politics, but it’s not something that list members are likely to get emotional about, other than lamenting a bad situation. Paul Interesting art form though and she's quite good at it. Cheers, frank On 20 February, 2014 2:06:12 PM EST, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Search for Ukraine has talent and choose the one featuring Kseniya Simonov. On 20/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately that video is blocked in Canada (or at least on android in Canada). “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)
I know what the situation is. I merely said that the sand artist video that I found didn't explain anything. I don't really want to get into why things are happening there. That's really beyond the purview of this list. People are dying there and it's disgusting. Cheers, frank On 20 February, 2014 2:40:15 PM EST, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Feb 20, 2014, at 2:31 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: There are a bunch of them. I didn't see any that get into what's going on in the Ukraine. The protests began when President Yanukovych ruled out an accord with the European Union and instead moved to form a close alliance with Russia and Putin. Many Ukranians, apparently, would rather be part of the union than a Russian puppet state. They’ve been occupying the square for a long time, but the demonstrations have now spread, probably because with the olympics taking place not far from there, they get more exposure. It’s an ugly situation, but most westerners, myself included, tend to come down on the people’s side and favor the Ukraine as an European Union state rather than a Russian ally. It may be politics, but it’s not something that list members are likely to get emotional about, other than lamenting a bad situation. Paul Interesting art form though and she's quite good at it. Cheers, frank On 20 February, 2014 2:06:12 PM EST, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Search for Ukraine has talent and choose the one featuring Kseniya Simonov. On 20/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately that video is blocked in Canada (or at least on android in Canada). “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)
On 2014-02-20 13:27, knarf wrote: I don't pretend to know the answers. If I had answers, someone would've stoned me to death by now. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died)
That's really beyond the purview of this list. What knarF said ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT: Shche ne vmerla Ukraina (Ukraine Has Not Yet Died) I know what the situation is. I merely said that the sand artist video that I found didn't explain anything. I don't really want to get into why things are happening there. That's really beyond the purview of this list. People are dying there and it's disgusting. Cheers, frank On 20 February, 2014 2:40:15 PM EST, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Feb 20, 2014, at 2:31 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: There are a bunch of them. I didn't see any that get into what's going on in the Ukraine. The protests began when President Yanukovych ruled out an accord with the European Union and instead moved to form a close alliance with Russia and Putin. Many Ukranians, apparently, would rather be part of the union than a Russian puppet state. They’ve been occupying the square for a long time, but the demonstrations have now spread, probably because with the olympics taking place not far from there, they get more exposure. It’s an ugly situation, but most westerners, myself included, tend to come down on the people’s side and favor the Ukraine as an European Union state rather than a Russian ally. It may be politics, but it’s not something that list members are likely to get emotional about, other than lamenting a bad situation. Paul Interesting art form though and she's quite good at it. Cheers, frank On 20 February, 2014 2:06:12 PM EST, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Search for Ukraine has talent and choose the one featuring Kseniya Simonov. On 20/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately that video is blocked in Canada (or at least on android in Canada). “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
