Re: OT - Printer ink fails to dry completely for a long time.
>With R2880, I am also spoiled, and not waiting for long, if at all. Sadly, I could only realize its strengths after killing it. :( Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun Igor PDML-StR , 21 Kas 2020 Cmt, 23:48 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > > > > I vaguely remember that instructions for some inkjet photo printer or photo > papers suggested to let the prints dry for 24 hours. > > With R2880, I am also spoiled, and not waiting for long, if at all. > > > Igor > > Sent from mobile phone > > > Bulent Celasun Sat, 21 Nov 2020 02:06:49 -0800 wrote: > > I used to have an Epson Stylus Photo Inkjet Printer (Probably R2880) > which was using Ultrachrome K3 ink set. The print quality, even on > common garden papers, was above my expectations and I had no problems > ever when it was operational. Due entirely to my long neglect, > clogging problem killed that printer. > > Now I have an Epson L805, a simpler and cheaper model with a cheaper > (read, lower quality) ink set (EcoTank). > > I have quite a stock of inkjet printing paper (mostly Kodak, labelled > as premium, ultra etc). Unfortunately, my recent L805 ink set > (especially the dark tones) is notoriusly late to dry. A fairly dark > print takes more than a week to dry. Even then, if you put a glass on > top, there are little foci that stick (or, if you press some plain > paper on the image you still see a few ink droplets transferred to the > paper). > > Original Epson inkjet papers are very expensive and practically > unavailable. There is only the A3 size (not suitable for my L805) and > it is sold for about 3 dollars each. I guess there should be no ink > drying problem if one can use those. > > Now, here is my question: > Can I do anything "after printing to an ordinary inkjet photo paper" > to make it dry quicker AND completely without damaging the image? > Would sunlight or heat or wind or ... work? > > By the way, the printer accepts a command to print on a no-name card > and uses somewhat less ink for that (on the premise that it may not > absorb the ink well). So, there is practically nothing I can do > "before" printing. > > Comments and help appreciated. > > Bulent > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Printer ink fails to dry completely for a long time
Thank you, Ralph for sharing your experience. >There used to be hot-air and infrared dryers for RC photo paper in the days of >analog photography. Oh no! No more gadgets in the... bathroom! :) Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun Ralf R Radermacher , 21 Kas 2020 Cmt, 22:20 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > > Am 21.11.20 um 17:58 schrieb Bipin Gupta: > > > g) A Radiant Heater placed in front of the Prints made them dry almost > > instantly - Best Solution. > > There used to be hot-air and infrared dryers for RC photo paper in the > days of analog photography. > > One example would be the Kaiser 4022 (3ßx40 cm). > > Other models like the Kindermann dryers have rollers to transport the > paper and queeze off any remaining water. Those would obviously smudge > your prints. I think I even have one of those in my basement lab. > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Web : http://www.fotoralf.de > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Printer ink fails to dry completely for a long time
Bipin, Thank you for sharing your experience and advice. My inks are declared to be pigment type and understand that this might have something to do with my problem. I think I will be looking for different papers first. While refilling, I will certainly consider non-Epson ones as well. >A Radiant Heater placed in front of the Prints made them dry almost instantly I doubt mine will but will try this soon. With my best wishes : ) Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun Bipin Gupta , 21 Kas 2020 Cmt, 20:00 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > > Hello Bulent and other Friends with a similar problem. > I bought some photo paper in Dubai in bulk and pretty cheap. Using a > Canon Pixma MG6470 AIO Printer I had the same problem with the Black > Ink taking longer to dry. It would smudge and spoil the entire print. > This Printer uses two kinds of Black ink Tanks - one Dye Black and the > other Pigment Black. > I am a Techie and a DIY person and a deep research took me to this > conclusion:- > a) Some photo papers have a thicker coating on which Ink takes longer to dry. > b) Pigment Ink sits longer on paper before it dries - pigments in the > Ink are some kind of very fine solid and will not enter the paper > structure easily. > c) Dye Inks sink into the paper and dry faster. > d) Cheaper Bulk Ink from Ali Baba was no better or worse than Canon's > original which is 5-times as expensive. > I do refilling as DIY fun and they work OK. > e) Better Photo Paper dried faster - Matte being better than Glossy - > but still the Dye Black Ink took longer to dry. > Experiment with quality Photo Paper. > f) Bond Letter Paper - 90 to 120 GSM - dried the fastest. Not bad - > good print quality. > g) A Radiant Heater placed in front of the Prints made them dry almost > instantly - Best Solution. > Stay safe and Blessed in these Pandemic times. > Bipin B. Gupta > retd Advisor Nissan ME, N. Africa & CIS > Thornhill, Ontario. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Printer ink fails to dry completely for a long time.
I vaguely remember that instructions for some inkjet photo printer or photo papers suggested to let the prints dry for 24 hours. With R2880, I am also spoiled, and not waiting for long, if at all. Igor Sent from mobile phone Bulent Celasun Sat, 21 Nov 2020 02:06:49 -0800 wrote: I used to have an Epson Stylus Photo Inkjet Printer (Probably R2880) which was using Ultrachrome K3 ink set. The print quality, even on common garden papers, was above my expectations and I had no problems ever when it was operational. Due entirely to my long neglect, clogging problem killed that printer. Now I have an Epson L805, a simpler and cheaper model with a cheaper (read, lower quality) ink set (EcoTank). I have quite a stock of inkjet printing paper (mostly Kodak, labelled as premium, ultra etc). Unfortunately, my recent L805 ink set (especially the dark tones) is notoriusly late to dry. A fairly dark print takes more than a week to dry. Even then, if you put a glass on top, there are little foci that stick (or, if you press some plain paper on the image you still see a few ink droplets transferred to the paper). Original Epson inkjet papers are very expensive and practically unavailable. There is only the A3 size (not suitable for my L805) and it is sold for about 3 dollars each. I guess there should be no ink drying problem if one can use those. Now, here is my question: Can I do anything "after printing to an ordinary inkjet photo paper" to make it dry quicker AND completely without damaging the image? Would sunlight or heat or wind or ... work? By the way, the printer accepts a command to print on a no-name card and uses somewhat less ink for that (on the premise that it may not absorb the ink well). So, there is practically nothing I can do "before" printing. Comments and help appreciated. Bulent -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Printer ink fails to dry completely for a long time
Am 21.11.20 um 17:58 schrieb Bipin Gupta: g) A Radiant Heater placed in front of the Prints made them dry almost instantly - Best Solution. There used to be hot-air and infrared dryers for RC photo paper in the days of analog photography. One example would be the Kaiser 4022 (3ßx40 cm). Other models like the Kindermann dryers have rollers to transport the paper and queeze off any remaining water. Those would obviously smudge your prints. I think I even have one of those in my basement lab. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Printer ink fails to dry completely for a long time
Hello Bulent and other Friends with a similar problem. I bought some photo paper in Dubai in bulk and pretty cheap. Using a Canon Pixma MG6470 AIO Printer I had the same problem with the Black Ink taking longer to dry. It would smudge and spoil the entire print. This Printer uses two kinds of Black ink Tanks - one Dye Black and the other Pigment Black. I am a Techie and a DIY person and a deep research took me to this conclusion:- a) Some photo papers have a thicker coating on which Ink takes longer to dry. b) Pigment Ink sits longer on paper before it dries - pigments in the Ink are some kind of very fine solid and will not enter the paper structure easily. c) Dye Inks sink into the paper and dry faster. d) Cheaper Bulk Ink from Ali Baba was no better or worse than Canon's original which is 5-times as expensive. I do refilling as DIY fun and they work OK. e) Better Photo Paper dried faster - Matte being better than Glossy - but still the Dye Black Ink took longer to dry. Experiment with quality Photo Paper. f) Bond Letter Paper - 90 to 120 GSM - dried the fastest. Not bad - good print quality. g) A Radiant Heater placed in front of the Prints made them dry almost instantly - Best Solution. Stay safe and Blessed in these Pandemic times. Bipin B. Gupta retd Advisor Nissan ME, N. Africa & CIS Thornhill, Ontario. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - Printer ink fails to dry completely for a long time.
I used to have an Epson Stylus Photo Inkjet Printer (Probably R2880) which was using Ultrachrome K3 ink set. The print quality, even on common garden papers, was above my expectations and I had no problems ever when it was operational. Due entirely to my long neglect, clogging problem killed that printer. Now I have an Epson L805, a simpler and cheaper model with a cheaper (read, lower quality) ink set (EcoTank). I have quite a stock of inkjet printing paper (mostly Kodak, labelled as premium, ultra etc). Unfortunately, my recent L805 ink set (especially the dark tones) is notoriusly late to dry. A fairly dark print takes more than a week to dry. Even then, if you put a glass on top, there are little foci that stick (or, if you press some plain paper on the image you still see a few ink droplets transferred to the paper). Original Epson inkjet papers are very expensive and practically unavailable. There is only the A3 size (not suitable for my L805) and it is sold for about 3 dollars each. I guess there should be no ink drying problem if one can use those. Now, here is my question: Can I do anything "after printing to an ordinary inkjet photo paper" to make it dry quicker AND completely without damaging the image? Would sunlight or heat or wind or ... work? By the way, the printer accepts a command to print on a no-name card and uses somewhat less ink for that (on the premise that it may not absorb the ink well). So, there is practically nothing I can do "before" printing. Comments and help appreciated. Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
