Re: OT: anyone familiar with UK copyright (for publishing in the U.S.)?

2013-07-25 Thread Darren Addy
Just a short follow-up. It appears that what I am asking about is
called orphan works and UK law recently changed regarding them:
http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2013/05/orphan-works

We are 33 years out from the original publishing date (no other
editions were printed and it was never even published in paperback). I
know who the original publishing house was, but there would be no
reason to give them a heads-up on what I'd like to do... they can't
possibly have publishing rights that extend this far out (can they?)

Interesting.

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have an interesting situation that I just bumped across. I've found
 a long out-of-print title (published in 1980) by a now deceased author
 (died 2009) who, in a 1997 USENET post, gave permission to reproduce
 (photo/ copy) his book if anyone found a copy. He also stated that
 he owned the copyright (therefore could give such permission). I have
 reason to believe that the title might be reasonably popular today, if
 again available.

 I guess my question is: Would his copyright have passed to his heirs?
 (Or what happens to one's copyright at death in the UK system)? Does
 his giving permission to reproduce mean that I could now republish it
 in the U.S. without treading on anyone's rights? Or if someone
 maintains rights, how might I go about finding out who and procuring
 them?

 Thanks for any insights.

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RE: OT: anyone familiar with UK copyright (for publishing in the U.S.)?

2013-07-25 Thread Gerrit Visser
50 or 70 years after death is the present extent of copyright AFAIK,
depending on where the book was originally published. Everytime the
copyright on Mickey Mouse is about to expire, the term gets increased.

gerrit

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U.S.)?

Just a short follow-up. It appears that what I am asking about is called
orphan works and UK law recently changed regarding them:
http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2013/05/orphan-works

We are 33 years out from the original publishing date (no other editions
were printed and it was never even published in paperback). I know who the
original publishing house was, but there would be no reason to give them a
heads-up on what I'd like to do... they can't possibly have publishing
rights that extend this far out (can they?)

Interesting.

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have an interesting situation that I just bumped across. I've found 
 a long out-of-print title (published in 1980) by a now deceased author 
 (died 2009) who, in a 1997 USENET post, gave permission to reproduce 
 (photo/ copy) his book if anyone found a copy. He also stated that 
 he owned the copyright (therefore could give such permission). I have 
 reason to believe that the title might be reasonably popular today, if 
 again available.

 I guess my question is: Would his copyright have passed to his heirs?
 (Or what happens to one's copyright at death in the UK system)? Does 
 his giving permission to reproduce mean that I could now republish it 
 in the U.S. without treading on anyone's rights? Or if someone 
 maintains rights, how might I go about finding out who and procuring 
 them?

 Thanks for any insights.

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 Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - 
 Peter Galassi



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Re: OT: anyone familiar with UK copyright (for publishing in the U.S.)?

2013-07-25 Thread Darren Addy
Thanks for the reply, but I believe that is in the U.S. (isn't it)?

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote:
 50 or 70 years after death is the present extent of copyright AFAIK,
 depending on where the book was originally published. Everytime the
 copyright on Mickey Mouse is about to expire, the term gets increased.

 gerrit

 -Original Message-
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Darren Addy
 Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 6:46 PM
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 Subject: Re: OT: anyone familiar with UK copyright (for publishing in the
 U.S.)?

 Just a short follow-up. It appears that what I am asking about is called
 orphan works and UK law recently changed regarding them:
 http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2013/05/orphan-works

 We are 33 years out from the original publishing date (no other editions
 were printed and it was never even published in paperback). I know who the
 original publishing house was, but there would be no reason to give them a
 heads-up on what I'd like to do... they can't possibly have publishing
 rights that extend this far out (can they?)

 Interesting.

 On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have an interesting situation that I just bumped across. I've found
 a long out-of-print title (published in 1980) by a now deceased author
 (died 2009) who, in a 1997 USENET post, gave permission to reproduce
 (photo/ copy) his book if anyone found a copy. He also stated that
 he owned the copyright (therefore could give such permission). I have
 reason to believe that the title might be reasonably popular today, if
 again available.

 I guess my question is: Would his copyright have passed to his heirs?
 (Or what happens to one's copyright at death in the UK system)? Does
 his giving permission to reproduce mean that I could now republish it
 in the U.S. without treading on anyone's rights? Or if someone
 maintains rights, how might I go about finding out who and procuring
 them?

 Thanks for any insights.

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 Peter Galassi



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Re: OT: anyone familiar with UK copyright (for publishing in the U.S.)?

2013-07-25 Thread Darren Addy
Learning to refine my Google Fu. It appears that copyright extends 70
years after the author's death in the UK and that copyright is like
property (assignable to heirs, can be bought/sold, etc).
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/copy/c-ownership/c-creator.htm
There is also a difference between the property rights and the moral
rights that go with copyright in the UK.
In addition, the Berne Convention governs copyright law between
countries, and that the UK and the US got behind in 1988.



On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the reply, but I believe that is in the U.S. (isn't it)?

 On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote:
 50 or 70 years after death is the present extent of copyright AFAIK,
 depending on where the book was originally published. Everytime the
 copyright on Mickey Mouse is about to expire, the term gets increased.

 gerrit

 -Original Message-
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Darren Addy
 Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 6:46 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: OT: anyone familiar with UK copyright (for publishing in the
 U.S.)?

 Just a short follow-up. It appears that what I am asking about is called
 orphan works and UK law recently changed regarding them:
 http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2013/05/orphan-works

 We are 33 years out from the original publishing date (no other editions
 were printed and it was never even published in paperback). I know who the
 original publishing house was, but there would be no reason to give them a
 heads-up on what I'd like to do... they can't possibly have publishing
 rights that extend this far out (can they?)

 Interesting.

 On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have an interesting situation that I just bumped across. I've found
 a long out-of-print title (published in 1980) by a now deceased author
 (died 2009) who, in a 1997 USENET post, gave permission to reproduce
 (photo/ copy) his book if anyone found a copy. He also stated that
 he owned the copyright (therefore could give such permission). I have
 reason to believe that the title might be reasonably popular today, if
 again available.

 I guess my question is: Would his copyright have passed to his heirs?
 (Or what happens to one's copyright at death in the UK system)? Does
 his giving permission to reproduce mean that I could now republish it
 in the U.S. without treading on anyone's rights? Or if someone
 maintains rights, how might I go about finding out who and procuring
 them?

 Thanks for any insights.

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 Peter Galassi



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Re: OT: anyone familiar with UK copyright (for publishing in the U.S.)?

2013-07-25 Thread John

On 7/25/2013 6:14 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

I have an interesting situation that I just bumped across. I've found
a long out-of-print title (published in 1980) by a now deceased author
(died 2009) who, in a 1997 USENET post, gave permission to reproduce
(photo/ copy) his book if anyone found a copy. He also stated that
he owned the copyright (therefore could give such permission). I have
reason to believe that the title might be reasonably popular today, if
again available.

I guess my question is: Would his copyright have passed to his heirs?
(Or what happens to one's copyright at death in the UK system)? Does
his giving permission to reproduce mean that I could now republish it
in the U.S. without treading on anyone's rights? Or if someone
maintains rights, how might I go about finding out who and procuring
them?

Thanks for any insights.



How many copies are you planning to publish?

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