Re: making Gmail show own messages (was: Re: testing OT)

2013-07-31 Thread steve harley

on 2013-07-31 12:47 mike wilson wrote

I seem to remember that there should be some option for
setting messages that are sent to mail lists to show.  But it doesn't
appear to be there.  Anyone any idea where I should be looking?


Google thinks it's helping you:

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6588?topic=1564

this is a bug, not a feature, but arguing with Google is pointless, so just 
hack around it; if you create a filter to label mail from the list:


Matches: list: (pdml_pdml.net.pdml.net)
Do this: Skip Inbox, Apply label pdml

all list messages, including yours, should appear in that label (aka mailbox); 
if for some reason that doesn't work, add a criterion to the filter to also 
label your messages sent to the list:


matches: to: (pdml@pdml.net)



If not, does anyone have any idea about manually importing old data
into Thunderbird?  I went from XP to Ubuntu - the auto import does not
want to work and if I try to import the address book file and inbox
folder manually, it stops T'bird working.  If I had any wit at all, I
would be at the end of it.


without more info the question is too broad; it really depends on the form of 
the original email data; if it's on an IMAP server, simply point Thunderbird at 
that account (you can have multiple email accounts in TBird), and possibly copy 
it to your Gmail account or a local folder; if it's stored in local email 
files, it will help to know what format (mbox, maildir, some corruption 
thereof, something else?); with a handle on that you should be able to google 
up some resources, but the answer may be here:


http://kb.mozillazine.org/Importing_and_exporting_your_mail



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RE: making Gmail show own messages (was: Re: testing OT)

2013-07-31 Thread Gerrit Visser
Outlook does the same, I find it difficult to say it is a bug or a feature
though. OTOH in Outlook I can set an option to store the sent email with the
replied to one, if it is in a folder other than Inbox. But that doesn't mean
of course that the list received it, only that I saved my sent email.
I never use the web interfaces for email, only Outlook. That way I get a
consistent view and behaviour.

Gerrit

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Subject: Re: making Gmail show own messages (was: Re: testing OT)

on 2013-07-31 12:47 mike wilson wrote
 I seem to remember that there should be some option for setting 
 messages that are sent to mail lists to show.  But it doesn't appear 
 to be there.  Anyone any idea where I should be looking?

Google thinks it's helping you:

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6588?topic=1564

this is a bug, not a feature, but arguing with Google is pointless, so just
hack around it; if you create a filter to label mail from the list:

Matches: list: (pdml_pdml.net.pdml.net) Do this: Skip Inbox, Apply label
pdml

all list messages, including yours, should appear in that label (aka
mailbox); if for some reason that doesn't work, add a criterion to the
filter to also label your messages sent to the list:

matches: to: (pdml@pdml.net)


 If not, does anyone have any idea about manually importing old data 
 into Thunderbird?  I went from XP to Ubuntu - the auto import does not 
 want to work and if I try to import the address book file and inbox 
 folder manually, it stops T'bird working.  If I had any wit at all, I 
 would be at the end of it.

without more info the question is too broad; it really depends on the form
of the original email data; if it's on an IMAP server, simply point
Thunderbird at that account (you can have multiple email accounts in TBird),
and possibly copy it to your Gmail account or a local folder; if it's stored
in local email files, it will help to know what format (mbox, maildir, some
corruption thereof, something else?); with a handle on that you should be
able to google up some resources, but the answer may be here:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Importing_and_exporting_your_mail



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Re: making Gmail show own messages (was: Re: testing OT)

2013-07-31 Thread mike wilson
On 31/07/2013, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 on 2013-07-31 12:47 mike wilson wrote
 I seem to remember that there should be some option for
 setting messages that are sent to mail lists to show.  But it doesn't
 appear to be there.  Anyone any idea where I should be looking?

 Google thinks it's helping you:

 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6588?topic=1564

 this is a bug, not a feature, but arguing with Google is pointless, so just

 hack around it; if you create a filter to label mail from the list:

 Matches: list: (pdml_pdml.net.pdml.net)
 Do this: Skip Inbox, Apply label pdml

 all list messages, including yours, should appear in that label (aka
 mailbox);
 if for some reason that doesn't work, add a criterion to the filter to also

 label your messages sent to the list:

 matches: to: (pdml@pdml.net)


 If not, does anyone have any idea about manually importing old data
 into Thunderbird?  I went from XP to Ubuntu - the auto import does not
 want to work and if I try to import the address book file and inbox
 folder manually, it stops T'bird working.  If I had any wit at all, I
 would be at the end of it.

 without more info the question is too broad; it really depends on the form
 of
 the original email data; if it's on an IMAP server, simply point Thunderbird
 at
 that account (you can have multiple email accounts in TBird), and possibly
 copy
 it to your Gmail account or a local folder; if it's stored in local email
 files, it will help to know what format (mbox, maildir, some corruption
 thereof, something else?); with a handle on that you should be able to
 google
 up some resources, but the answer may be here:

 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Importing_and_exporting_your_mail

Thanks for that.  I'm up to my pits with life at the moment but in a
week or so I may have time to try the above.

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