RE: I never enter photo contests BUT...
First of all that is indeed a wonderful photo; I remember it well and I know I've already passed on that opinion. As for the contest, I'll echo what many others have already said about it being a popularity contest, the large number of entries giving those at the top of the list an advantage, etc. However all those things were true for the contest that Mark Roberts entered a few months ago and I still voted. I'm not voting because I have to register at what's obviously an advertiser-driven website. I just don't want more of my personal information in the hands of commercial interests. I am getting tired of it. Makes me appreciate our little list all the more... Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Sent: March 14, 2012 3/14/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: I never enter photo contests BUT... I did this one. Theme: Landscape. Most Likes wins. Should anyone care to register at the (relatively new) camera-enthusiast.com forum, then they can Like their favorite image. If it happens to be mine, I thank you, but there are many worthy images there (and not a lot of Likes on any of them so far). My entry is the previously well-liked PESO image I took of a Kansas Gust Front: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/4722534814/in/photostream/ The gallery of contest entries is found here: http://www.camera-enthusiast.com/forums/useralbums/fuji-x10-giveaway-submissions.7/view (Mine is in the last row, Waay down there, as I type this). Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: I never enter photo contests BUT...
From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com I'm not voting because I have to register at what's obviously an advertiser-driven website. I just don't want more of my personal information in the hands of commercial interests. I am getting tired of it. Makes me appreciate our little list all the more... Cheers, frank You ignorant fop! You have no idea what Doug Brewer does with the information posted on the PDML, and for that matter, neither do I. :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...
Tom C wrote: From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com I'm not voting because I have to register at what's obviously an advertiser-driven website. I just don't want more of my personal information in the hands of commercial interests. I am getting tired of it. Makes me appreciate our little list all the more... You ignorant fop! You have no idea what Doug Brewer does with the information posted on the PDML, and for that matter, neither do I. :-) Nothing to worry about: We only need to be concerned about *accurate* information about us! ;-) -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...
On 3/15/12 11:06 AM, Tom C wrote: From: knarftheria...@gmail.comknarftheria...@gmail.com I'm not voting because I have to register at what's obviously an advertiser-driven website. I just don't want more of my personal information in the hands of commercial interests. I am getting tired of it. Makes me appreciate our little list all the more... Cheers, frank You ignorant fop! You have no idea what Doug Brewer does with the information posted on the PDML, and for that matter, neither do I. :-) Tom C. as soon as some important info shows up on the PDML, boy, I have big plans. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...
Tom - Are you aware that everything on PDML is publicly available on the archive? http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/index.html It's easy to forget that our little list is not a private place. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com I'm not voting because I have to register at what's obviously an advertiser-driven website. I just don't want more of my personal information in the hands of commercial interests. I am getting tired of it. Makes me appreciate our little list all the more... Cheers, frank You ignorant fop! You have no idea what Doug Brewer does with the information posted on the PDML, and for that matter, neither do I. :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...
Tom - Are you aware that everything on PDML is publicly available on the archive? http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/index.html It's easy to forget that our little list is not a private place. gs George Sinos Yes I am. :-) That's why I typically post under Tom C. and not my full name. At least that way if I write something REALLY REALLY REALLY stupid or obnoxious, it's not instantly associated with my name by the world at large. E-mail,address, IP address, yes there's ways to make connections, even by by going to where I post photos, but at least my name and my stupidity don't appear on the same screen. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...
Tom C wrote: From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com I'm not voting because I have to register at what's obviously an advertiser-driven website. I just don't want more of my personal information in the hands of commercial interests. I am getting tired of it. Makes me appreciate our little list all the more... You ignorant fop! You have no idea what Doug Brewer does with the information posted on the PDML, and for that matter, neither do I. :-) Nothing to worry about: We only need to be concerned about *accurate* information about us! ;-) -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com LOL! A sticks and stones approach. I like it. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...
Yes, I am aware of that. And yes, I'm sure that some commercial interest or other can (and probably has) mined some information from our witty pearls of wisdom. However, two points: 1. PDML is not driven by or affiliated with any commercial interests, and I really appreciate that, and, 2. The forum that has set up the contest in question certainly is funded by advertisers. This contest is not really about honouring worthy photographs and photographers, it's about getting people to register information for use of their advertisers. That pisses me off. Kripes, they even have the nerve to ~not~ offer the winners a prize! Yeah, there's lots of info about me already out there; I don't want to make it any easier for them. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com Sent: March 15, 2012 3/15/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: I never enter photo contests BUT... Tom - Are you aware that everything on PDML is publicly available on the archive? http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/index.html It's easy to forget that our little list is not a private place. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com I'm not voting because I have to register at what's obviously an advertiser-driven website. I just don't want more of my personal information in the hands of commercial interests. I am getting tired of it. Makes me appreciate our little list all the more... Cheers, frank You ignorant fop! You have no idea what Doug Brewer does with the information posted on the PDML, and for that matter, neither do I. :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: I never enter photo contests BUT...
I'm not voting because I have to register at what's obviously an advertiser-driven website. I just don't want more of my personal information in the hands of commercial interests. I am getting tired of it. Makes me appreciate our little list all the more... Cheers, frank You ignorant fop! You have no idea what Doug Brewer does with the information posted on the PDML, and for that matter, neither do I. :-) He sells it to penis enlargement companies trading out of Nigeria. What I want to know is, how did Brewer find out we all have such tiny peckers? B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...
On 3/15/12 7:42 PM, Bob W wrote: I'm not voting because I have to register at what's obviously an advertiser-driven website. I just don't want more of my personal information in the hands of commercial interests. I am getting tired of it. Makes me appreciate our little list all the more... Cheers, frank You ignorant fop! You have no idea what Doug Brewer does with the information posted on the PDML, and for that matter, neither do I. :-) He sells it to penis enlargement companies trading out of Nigeria. What I want to know is, how did Brewer find out we all have such tiny peckers? B Easy. I've gauged your compensatory photographic spending habits. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: I never enter photo contests BUT...
I'm not voting because I have to register at what's obviously an advertiser-driven website. I just don't want more of my personal information in the hands of commercial interests. I am getting tired of it. Makes me appreciate our little list all the more... Cheers, frank You ignorant fop! You have no idea what Doug Brewer does with the information posted on the PDML, and for that matter, neither do I. :-) He sells it to penis enlargement companies trading out of Nigeria. What I want to know is, how did Brewer find out we all have such tiny peckers? B Easy. I've gauged your compensatory photographic spending habits. Thank God I kept quiet about all the Ferraris. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...
On 3/15/12 8:01 PM, Bob W wrote: I'm not voting because I have to register at what's obviously an advertiser-driven website. I just don't want more of my personal information in the hands of commercial interests. I am getting tired of it. Makes me appreciate our little list all the more... Cheers, frank You ignorant fop! You have no idea what Doug Brewer does with the information posted on the PDML, and for that matter, neither do I. :-) He sells it to penis enlargement companies trading out of Nigeria. What I want to know is, how did Brewer find out we all have such tiny peckers? B Easy. I've gauged your compensatory photographic spending habits. Thank God I kept quiet about all the Ferraris. and the Peter Lik photos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...
Nice, Darren On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I did this one. Theme: Landscape. Most Likes wins. Should anyone care to register at the (relatively new) camera-enthusiast.com forum, then they can Like their favorite image. If it happens to be mine, I thank you, but there are many worthy images there (and not a lot of Likes on any of them so far). My entry is the previously well-liked PESO image I took of a Kansas Gust Front: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/4722534814/in/photostream/ The gallery of contest entries is found here: http://www.camera-enthusiast.com/forums/useralbums/fuji-x10-giveaway-submissions.7/view (Mine is in the last row, Waay down there, as I type this). Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...
ponder-out-loud Why is there never an image-enthusiast.com site? /ponder-out-loud On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I did this one. Theme: Landscape. Most Likes wins. Should anyone care to register at the (relatively new) camera-enthusiast.com forum, then they can Like their favorite image. If it happens to be mine, I thank you, but there are many worthy images there (and not a lot of Likes on any of them so far). My entry is the previously well-liked PESO image I took of a Kansas Gust Front: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/4722534814/in/photostream/ The gallery of contest entries is found here: http://www.camera-enthusiast.com/forums/useralbums/fuji-x10-giveaway-submissions.7/view (Mine is in the last row, Waay down there, as I type this). Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...
Man, that's a whole gang of images! I do like yours a lot, but I can't seem to get my Like to take. I'm sure I've said it before, but I've always wanted to do storm photography out on the plains. We get some decent storms here in KY that would make nice photos if it weren't for the topography. The best I've ever gotten was a big roll cloud, but it just doesn't look as dramatic as it would with a flatter, less cluttered horizon. Good luck! -- Walt On 3/14/2012 9:40 AM, Darren Addy wrote: I did this one. Theme: Landscape. Most Likes wins. Should anyone care to register at the (relatively new) camera-enthusiast.com forum, then they can Like their favorite image. If it happens to be mine, I thank you, but there are many worthy images there (and not a lot of Likes on any of them so far). My entry is the previously well-liked PESO image I took of a Kansas Gust Front: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/4722534814/in/photostream/ The gallery of contest entries is found here: http://www.camera-enthusiast.com/forums/useralbums/fuji-x10-giveaway-submissions.7/view (Mine is in the last row, Waay down there, as I type this). Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...
Worthy entry, Darren. I clicked on likes. Does that mean I voted for it? Jack - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:40 AM Subject: I never enter photo contests BUT... I did this one. Theme: Landscape. Most Likes wins. Should anyone care to register at the (relatively new) camera-enthusiast.com forum, then they can Like their favorite image. If it happens to be mine, I thank you, but there are many worthy images there (and not a lot of Likes on any of them so far). My entry is the previously well-liked PESO image I took of a Kansas Gust Front: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/4722534814/in/photostream/ The gallery of contest entries is found here: http://www.camera-enthusiast.com/forums/useralbums/fuji-x10-giveaway-submissions.7/view (Mine is in the last row, Waay down there, as I type this). Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Worthy entry, Darren. I clicked on likes. Does that mean I voted for it? Thanks all, for the comments. I reloaded the page and the image has 11 views but no Likes. I believe you have to be logged-in (and thus HAVE a log-in [register]) for a Like to be registered. I wonder if more people aren't having difficulties - there are a suspiciously low number of likes on almost all the images. H. Storm photography is indeed a blast. To be in position to get the good stuff you have to chase, as in be willing to travel to find the good storms and then be in the proper position for either the cell or a particular feature of the cell (like a wall cloud or the funnel or tornado that it spawns). Since most storms are moving, that means attempting to move with them as they go through their cycles (both lifecycle from birth to death and their cycles of occlusion and growth). It helps to have an interest in weather/meteorology to understand how/where supercells will form and how they behave - which might be in the best position to have a longer life or more likely to be a tornado producer - if that is what you are seeking. Nobody wants to see a tornado be a threat to life or property, and fortunately the vast majority of them occur in open country (which we have a LOT of out here on the Plains). Those of you with Android or iPhones (or iPads) interested in weather would do well to purchase the RadarScope app. It not only brings NEXRAD Level 3 radar imagery in real time to your phone, but also shows your location (if in proximity to the storm) on GPS capable phones. Unbelievable technology for a mobile device for a pittance. Those of you interested in software with a similar capability for your desktop or laptop, checkout grlevelx.com . Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT
I did this one. Theme: Landscape. Most Likes wins. Should anyone care to register at the (relatively new) camera-enthusiast.com forum, then they can Like their favorite image. If it happens to be mine, I thank you, but there are many worthy images there (and not a lot of Likes on any of them so far). My entry is the previously well-liked PESO image I took of a Kansas Gust Front: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/4722534814/in/photostream/ The gallery of contest entries is found here: http://www.camera-enthusiast.com/forums/useralbums/fuji-x10-giveaway-submissions.7/view (Mine is in the last row, Waay down there, as I type this). Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska I like the storm shot Darren. Photo contest rant follows. There seems to be no good way to run a contest. Subjectivity always enters into the picture. However this kind of contest seems to have more problems than the kind in which a select set of judges passes judgement. A big complaint from posters in this contest is that images near the top of the list seem to acquire more votes. That's entirely logical, those voting are not required to look at every image before voting. Hence as interest wanes or time slips by the images lower on the list tend to get fewer votes, regardless of their merit. A recent monthly photo contest run by an insurance company here in Idaho had a similar format, except that anyone that registered on the site was eligible to vote. So it was not really a photo contest, it was a popularity contest. Those that could encourage or ask the most number of friends to vote would garner the most votes, regardless of image merit. How is that remotely fair? I wrote the company regarding the issue, and their response was that they designed it to be a popularity contest. So much for that. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT
I agree with your assessment, Tom. I think the point of most web site related contests is just to draw eyeballs or provide one more reason to come back, reload the page, whatever. In this case, it is also to spur more registrations for the privilege of entering or voting. No contest prize is given out of the goodness of any entities heart. It is being offered in exchange for something of greater value to the contest holder (advertising exposure, word-of-mouth, etc.) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT
From: Tom C I did this one. Theme: Landscape. Most Likes wins. Should anyone care to register at the (relatively new) camera-enthusiast.com forum, then they can Like their favorite image. If it happens to be mine, I thank you, but there are many worthy images there (and not a lot of Likes on any of them so far). My entry is the previously well-liked PESO image I took of a Kansas Gust Front: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/4722534814/in/photostream/ The gallery of contest entries is found here: http://www.camera-enthusiast.com/forums/useralbums/fuji-x10-giveaway-submissions.7/view (Mine is in the last row, Waay down there, as I type this). Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska I like the storm shot Darren. Photo contest rant follows. There seems to be no good way to run a contest. Subjectivity always enters into the picture. However this kind of contest seems to have more problems than the kind in which a select set of judges passes judgement. A big complaint from posters in this contest is that images near the top of the list seem to acquire more votes. That's entirely logical, those voting are not required to look at every image before voting. Hence as interest wanes or time slips by the images lower on the list tend to get fewer votes, regardless of their merit. A recent monthly photo contest run by an insurance company here in Idaho had a similar format, except that anyone that registered on the site was eligible to vote. So it was not really a photo contest, it was a popularity contest. Those that could encourage or ask the most number of friends to vote would garner the most votes, regardless of image merit. How is that remotely fair? I wrote the company regarding the issue, and their response was that they designed it to be a popularity contest. So much for that. Tom C. If I didn't lose count, there are 177 rows of 4 images, with the 178th row having only one image at the time I counted. Page position does seem to have a real effect on the number of views an image gets. Darren's image is the first image on the 172nd row. The only way to overcome the inherent page position bias would be to randomize the images each time the page loads so that every entrant has a chance to have their image appear near the top of the heap. Interestingly, when I refreshed the page, the last row now had 3 images, with the image that had been alone there now the second image in the row. The first image in the last row had previously been the last image in the next to last row, so something got inserted between Darren's image the last image. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT
From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com The gallery of contest entries is found here: http://www.camera-enthusiast.com/forums/useralbums/fuji-x10-giveaway-submissions.7/view (Mine is in the last row, Waay down there, as I type this). Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska I like the storm shot Darren. Photo contest rant follows. There seems to be no good way to run a contest. Subjectivity always enters into the picture. However this kind of contest seems to have more problems than the kind in which a select set of judges passes judgement. A big complaint from posters in this contest is that images near the top of the list seem to acquire more votes. That's entirely logical, those voting are not required to look at every image before voting. Hence as interest wanes or time slips by the images lower on the list tend to get fewer votes, regardless of their merit. A recent monthly photo contest run by an insurance company here in Idaho had a similar format, except that anyone that registered on the site was eligible to vote. So it was not really a photo contest, it was a popularity contest. Those that could encourage or ask the most number of friends to vote would garner the most votes, regardless of image merit. How is that remotely fair? I wrote the company regarding the issue, and their response was that they designed it to be a popularity contest. So much for that. Tom C. If I didn't lose count, there are 177 rows of 4 images, with the 178th row having only one image at the time I counted. Page position does seem to have a real effect on the number of views an image gets. Darren's image is the first image on the 172nd row. The only way to overcome the inherent page position bias would be to randomize the images each time the page loads so that every entrant has a chance to have their image appear near the top of the heap. Interestingly, when I refreshed the page, the last row now had 3 images, with the image that had been alone there now the second image in the row. The first image in the last row had previously been the last image in the next to last row, so something got inserted between Darren's image the last image. Another issue, as I see it, is that the voting is open for the duration of the contest period. If Photographer #1 submits a photo on day 1, and Photographer #2 submits a photo on day 31, Photographer #1 has had 30 days of additional vote accumulation, simply for being aware of the contest and having an earlier submission. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
