Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?

2015-02-06 Thread J C OConnell
isnt it true that the AA simulator doesnt work with flash, so classic 
portrait photography

must be done without the aa filter. ??
jco
On 2/5/2015 10:26 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

I've had some moire issues with clothing materials when shooting full
length portraits, I hadn't had any problems before so I only spotted
the issue in post.



On 6 February 2015 at 13:46, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:

Ive had no reason to use it so far.

On 2/5/2015 9:17 PM, Mark C wrote:

When the K-3 came out once feature that contributed to the press
coverage was the Anti Alias filter simulator. So after more than a year
with the K-3 I can say that I only turned the AA simulator on once, to
see what it would do. On my camera, it does make a distinct sound during
exposures when enabled... Otherwise I have never used it, but I really
don't shoot many images where there is fabric or other things that might
kick off moire' patterns.

So - do you use it?

Mark

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Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?

2015-02-06 Thread Christine Aguila
Nope, haven’t used it yet, and if I wanted to I’d have to consult the user 
manual to see how to do it.  Cheers, Christine


 On Feb 5, 2015, at 8:17 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 
 When the K-3 came out once feature that contributed to the press coverage was 
 the Anti Alias filter simulator. So after more than a year with the K-3 I can 
 say that I only turned the AA simulator on once, to see what it would do. On 
 my camera, it does make a distinct sound during exposures when enabled... 
 Otherwise I have never used it, but I really don't shoot many images where 
 there is fabric or other things that might kick off moire' patterns.
 
 So - do you use it?
 
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Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?

2015-02-06 Thread Bruce Walker
It's going to depend on the brevity of the flash. The AA simulator is
a pretty high frequency oscillator, and though I don't recall the
exact duration for a round trip of the sensor, I seem to remember it
being about the same as the minimum flash sync time of 1/180th sec.
However flashes and strobes can have super short durations of
1/10,000th second so yeah, AA simulator is out for that kind of
shooting.

But lots of folks shoot with continuous light, like CFL, LED or
tungsten. Would be fine with AA simulator.


On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 1:51 PM, J C OConnell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
 isnt it true that the AA simulator doesnt work with flash, so classic
 portrait photography
 must be done without the aa filter. ??
 jco

 On 2/5/2015 10:26 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

 I've had some moire issues with clothing materials when shooting full
 length portraits, I hadn't had any problems before so I only spotted
 the issue in post.



 On 6 February 2015 at 13:46, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Ive had no reason to use it so far.

 On 2/5/2015 9:17 PM, Mark C wrote:

 When the K-3 came out once feature that contributed to the press
 coverage was the Anti Alias filter simulator. So after more than a year
 with the K-3 I can say that I only turned the AA simulator on once, to
 see what it would do. On my camera, it does make a distinct sound during
 exposures when enabled... Otherwise I have never used it, but I really
 don't shoot many images where there is fabric or other things that might
 kick off moire' patterns.

 So - do you use it?

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Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?

2015-02-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
Nope, just like Christine A, I'd need to consult the manual to use it.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Nope, haven’t used it yet, and if I wanted to I’d have to consult the user 
 manual to see how to do it.  Cheers, Christine


 On Feb 5, 2015, at 8:17 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

 When the K-3 came out once feature that contributed to the press coverage 
 was the Anti Alias filter simulator. So after more than a year with the K-3 
 I can say that I only turned the AA simulator on once, to see what it would 
 do. On my camera, it does make a distinct sound during exposures when 
 enabled... Otherwise I have never used it, but I really don't shoot many 
 images where there is fabric or other things that might kick off moire' 
 patterns.

 So - do you use it?

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Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?

2015-02-06 Thread Bruce Walker
I _kew_ there was a good reason to avoid shooting models wearing clothes.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 6:10 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 Worst case so far using the Sigma C 17-70/2.8-4, sharp lens, 1:1 crop

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGS29246.jpg

 On 6 February 2015 at 20:45, Ralf R Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote:
 Am 06.02.15 um 03:17 schrieb Mark C:

 So - do you use it?


 I haven't yet but I will have to in the future with certain subjects. I've
 had a few instances of aliasing with my industrial sites. Mainly facades
 with corrugated steel cladding, but only when shooting with prime lenses,
 e.g. the M 2/85 mm, from a tripod.

 No probs with zoom lenses so far, so maybe the resolution of my good old
 primes is just too high. ;-)

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Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?

2015-02-06 Thread Bruce Walker
Okay, I found some numbers. The AA simulator works up to 1/1000 sec
shutter, so it'll be a bit more effective with flash than I thought.
Still hit or miss though depending on flash duration. It'll work best
with hotshoe flashes running at near full power.

[...] seems to indicate that the system is only oscillating at about 500 Hz.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/pentax-k3/pentax-k3SELECTIVE_LPF.HTM


On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's going to depend on the brevity of the flash. The AA simulator is
 a pretty high frequency oscillator, and though I don't recall the
 exact duration for a round trip of the sensor, I seem to remember it
 being about the same as the minimum flash sync time of 1/180th sec.
 However flashes and strobes can have super short durations of
 1/10,000th second so yeah, AA simulator is out for that kind of
 shooting.

 But lots of folks shoot with continuous light, like CFL, LED or
 tungsten. Would be fine with AA simulator.


 On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 1:51 PM, J C OConnell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
 isnt it true that the AA simulator doesnt work with flash, so classic
 portrait photography
 must be done without the aa filter. ??
 jco

 On 2/5/2015 10:26 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

 I've had some moire issues with clothing materials when shooting full
 length portraits, I hadn't had any problems before so I only spotted
 the issue in post.



 On 6 February 2015 at 13:46, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Ive had no reason to use it so far.

 On 2/5/2015 9:17 PM, Mark C wrote:

 When the K-3 came out once feature that contributed to the press
 coverage was the Anti Alias filter simulator. So after more than a year
 with the K-3 I can say that I only turned the AA simulator on once, to
 see what it would do. On my camera, it does make a distinct sound during
 exposures when enabled... Otherwise I have never used it, but I really
 don't shoot many images where there is fabric or other things that might
 kick off moire' patterns.

 So - do you use it?

 Mark

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Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?

2015-02-06 Thread Ken Waller

You really should get out more and shoot !

A little over 1400 frames on my K3 - a little over a year old.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?



I've shot 98355 frames on my K3 in exactly one year :)

On 7 February 2015 at 01:17, Jan van Wijk pen...@dfsee.com wrote:

On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 21:17:12 -0500 Mark C wrote:



So - do you use it?


No, never sofar (just 6000 frames in little over a year).

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Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?

2015-02-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
I don’t shoot anywhere near as much as I once did. I have about 6700 exposures 
on my K3, and I bought it right after launch, whenever that was.

Paul
 On Feb 6, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I did Ken, over 135k shots when looking at images from my K5, K5iis
 and K3 over the same period :)
 
 On 7 February 2015 at 07:53, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 You really should get out more and shoot !
 
 A little over 1400 frames on my K3 - a little over a year old.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
 - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?
 
 
 I've shot 98355 frames on my K3 in exactly one year :)
 
 On 7 February 2015 at 01:17, Jan van Wijk pen...@dfsee.com wrote:
 
 On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 21:17:12 -0500 Mark C wrote:
 
 
 
 So - do you use it?
 
 
 No, never sofar (just 6000 frames in little over a year).
 
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Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?

2015-02-06 Thread Rob Studdert
I did Ken, over 135k shots when looking at images from my K5, K5iis
and K3 over the same period :)

On 7 February 2015 at 07:53, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 You really should get out more and shoot !

 A little over 1400 frames on my K3 - a little over a year old.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

 - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?


 I've shot 98355 frames on my K3 in exactly one year :)

 On 7 February 2015 at 01:17, Jan van Wijk pen...@dfsee.com wrote:

 On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 21:17:12 -0500 Mark C wrote:



 So - do you use it?


 No, never sofar (just 6000 frames in little over a year).

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Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?

2015-02-06 Thread Rick Womer
Mark!

On Feb 6, 2015, at 2:06 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 I _knew_ there was a good reason to avoid shooting models wearing clothes.





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Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?

2015-02-06 Thread Rob Studdert
Worst case so far using the Sigma C 17-70/2.8-4, sharp lens, 1:1 crop

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGS29246.jpg

On 6 February 2015 at 20:45, Ralf R Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote:
 Am 06.02.15 um 03:17 schrieb Mark C:

 So - do you use it?


 I haven't yet but I will have to in the future with certain subjects. I've
 had a few instances of aliasing with my industrial sites. Mainly facades
 with corrugated steel cladding, but only when shooting with prime lenses,
 e.g. the M 2/85 mm, from a tripod.

 No probs with zoom lenses so far, so maybe the resolution of my good old
 primes is just too high. ;-)

 Ralf

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Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?

2015-02-06 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 06.02.15 um 03:17 schrieb Mark C:


So - do you use it?


I haven't yet but I will have to in the future with certain subjects. 
I've had a few instances of aliasing with my industrial sites. Mainly 
facades with corrugated steel cladding, but only when shooting with 
prime lenses, e.g. the M 2/85 mm, from a tripod.


No probs with zoom lenses so far, so maybe the resolution of my good old 
primes is just too high. ;-)


Ralf

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Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?

2015-02-06 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 21:17:12 -0500 Mark C wrote:


So - do you use it?

No, never sofar (just 6000 frames in little over a year).

Regards, JvW


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Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?

2015-02-06 Thread Bruce Walker
 So - do you use it?

Not once, not even to test it.

(There are many features I've never tested on my K-3, like video.
Never found the time to tinker; no interest.)


On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:17 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 When the K-3 came out once feature that contributed to the press coverage
 was the Anti Alias filter simulator. So after more than a year with the K-3
 I can say that I only turned the AA simulator on once, to see what it would
 do. On my camera, it does make a distinct sound during exposures when
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Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?

2015-02-06 Thread Rob Studdert
I've shot 98355 frames on my K3 in exactly one year :)

On 7 February 2015 at 01:17, Jan van Wijk pen...@dfsee.com wrote:
 On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 21:17:12 -0500 Mark C wrote:


So - do you use it?

 No, never sofar (just 6000 frames in little over a year).

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Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?

2015-02-06 Thread Mark C
That's noticeable... With the K10D and K-7 I saw some moire in insects' 
eye cell patterns, but it was infrequent. WIth the K5 and now K3 I have 
not seen any.


On 2/6/2015 6:10 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:

Worst case so far using the Sigma C 17-70/2.8-4, sharp lens, 1:1 crop

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGS29246.jpg

On 6 February 2015 at 20:45, Ralf R Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote:

Am 06.02.15 um 03:17 schrieb Mark C:


So - do you use it?


I haven't yet but I will have to in the future with certain subjects. I've
had a few instances of aliasing with my industrial sites. Mainly facades
with corrugated steel cladding, but only when shooting with prime lenses,
e.g. the M 2/85 mm, from a tripod.

No probs with zoom lenses so far, so maybe the resolution of my good old
primes is just too high. ;-)

Ralf

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Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?

2015-02-05 Thread Dario Bonazza

Same here. I never use it.

Dario

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So - do you use it?


Nope.

Never except to test, as with you.  never had any problem, nor have I with
the K-5IIs.

- Peter

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Subject: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?

When the K-3 came out once feature that contributed to the press
coverage was the Anti Alias filter simulator. So after more than a year
with the K-3 I can say that I only turned the AA simulator on once, to
see what it would do. On my camera, it does make a distinct sound during
exposures when enabled... Otherwise I have never used it, but I really
don't shoot many images where there is fabric or other things that might
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So - do you use it?

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Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?

2015-02-05 Thread Peter Loveday

So - do you use it?


Nope.

Never except to test, as with you.  never had any problem, nor have I with 
the K-5IIs.


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From: Mark C

Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 12:47 PM
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Subject: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?

When the K-3 came out once feature that contributed to the press
coverage was the Anti Alias filter simulator. So after more than a year
with the K-3 I can say that I only turned the AA simulator on once, to
see what it would do. On my camera, it does make a distinct sound during
exposures when enabled... Otherwise I have never used it, but I really
don't shoot many images where there is fabric or other things that might
kick off moire' patterns.

So - do you use it?

Mark

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Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?

2015-02-05 Thread John

Ive had no reason to use it so far.

On 2/5/2015 9:17 PM, Mark C wrote:

When the K-3 came out once feature that contributed to the press
coverage was the Anti Alias filter simulator. So after more than a year
with the K-3 I can say that I only turned the AA simulator on once, to
see what it would do. On my camera, it does make a distinct sound during
exposures when enabled... Otherwise I have never used it, but I really
don't shoot many images where there is fabric or other things that might
kick off moire' patterns.

So - do you use it?

Mark

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Re: K-3 users - how often do you use the AA simulator?

2015-02-05 Thread Rob Studdert
I've had some moire issues with clothing materials when shooting full
length portraits, I hadn't had any problems before so I only spotted
the issue in post.



On 6 February 2015 at 13:46, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Ive had no reason to use it so far.

 On 2/5/2015 9:17 PM, Mark C wrote:

 When the K-3 came out once feature that contributed to the press
 coverage was the Anti Alias filter simulator. So after more than a year
 with the K-3 I can say that I only turned the AA simulator on once, to
 see what it would do. On my camera, it does make a distinct sound during
 exposures when enabled... Otherwise I have never used it, but I really
 don't shoot many images where there is fabric or other things that might
 kick off moire' patterns.

 So - do you use it?

 Mark

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