Re: Pentax K20D and K200D now discontinued.
P. J. Alling wrote: Their Japanese site doesn't Google Translation http://tinyurl.com/lq3psw Joseph McAllister wrote: Pentax Japan's English site shows them as still available. BH is the only place I see where they are listed as discontinued, And even then they ask you to call them for more information. Let's see - the model is more than a year old - so it is understandable that they should no longer be made. Picked up on the computer hardware/software business model, I guess. Forced obsolescence. On Sep 5, 2009, at 16:51 , P. J. Alling wrote: I don't know if anyone else noticed this, (I'm a bit behind on the list), but BH photo has it listed as discontinued. Pentax's Japanese site has them in the discontinued list, though Pentax Imaging, (Pentax USA), still shows then a current. I'm confused by one thing. During the lead-up to the K-7 release, back when it was all mysterious and there were only rumours about it, Ned Bunnell and possibly other Pentax spokesmen stated that the K-7 was a new thing, a paradigm shift, and was *not* a replacement for the K20D. Does anyone else recall that, or is my memory worse than I thought? I seem to recall talk about the two models co-existing in the product line-up. So if that's true, then what *is* the replacement for the K20D, now that it's discontinued? Funny, the K-7 seems to me to be a complete replacement for the K20D in pretty-much every possible way. Oh well, marketing types and politicians must be cut from the same cloth I guess. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K20D and K200D now discontinued.
Pentax can do any damn thing they want. I expect that the K-7 would have been the replacement for the K20D except that it was more than an incremental change. I expect that the K200D was slated for replacement and the new Camera will be something between the K20 and K200 in capabilities. For example I expect to see a K X00 model with a Sony ~12mp CCD or CMOS, (If CMOS with live view), and either the K10/20D control interface and most of the software features of the K-7 and a pentaprism, or a K200D interface, (simplified, one wheel, etc.) on a K-7 style body, (no metal shell, but plastic), with one control wheel and a mirror prism. Bruce Walker wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: Their Japanese site doesn't Google Translation http://tinyurl.com/lq3psw Joseph McAllister wrote: Pentax Japan's English site shows them as still available. BH is the only place I see where they are listed as discontinued, And even then they ask you to call them for more information. Let's see - the model is more than a year old - so it is understandable that they should no longer be made. Picked up on the computer hardware/software business model, I guess. Forced obsolescence. On Sep 5, 2009, at 16:51 , P. J. Alling wrote: I don't know if anyone else noticed this, (I'm a bit behind on the list), but BH photo has it listed as discontinued. Pentax's Japanese site has them in the discontinued list, though Pentax Imaging, (Pentax USA), still shows then a current. I'm confused by one thing. During the lead-up to the K-7 release, back when it was all mysterious and there were only rumours about it, Ned Bunnell and possibly other Pentax spokesmen stated that the K-7 was a new thing, a paradigm shift, and was *not* a replacement for the K20D. Does anyone else recall that, or is my memory worse than I thought? I seem to recall talk about the two models co-existing in the product line-up. So if that's true, then what *is* the replacement for the K20D, now that it's discontinued? Funny, the K-7 seems to me to be a complete replacement for the K20D in pretty-much every possible way. Oh well, marketing types and politicians must be cut from the same cloth I guess. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K20D and K200D now discontinued.
I think what Ned said was that the K7 wasn't the k30. It wasn't the next iteration of that series, but rather a new direction. I don't think it was was ever said that both cameras would continue to be available. As the owner of both a K20D and a K7D, I'd have to say they're too close in specs and concept to remain in the lineup side by side. Paul On Sep 6, 2009, at 9:17 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: Their Japanese site doesn't Google Translation http://tinyurl.com/lq3psw Joseph McAllister wrote: Pentax Japan's English site shows them as still available. BH is the only place I see where they are listed as discontinued, And even then they ask you to call them for more information. Let's see - the model is more than a year old - so it is understandable that they should no longer be made. Picked up on the computer hardware/software business model, I guess. Forced obsolescence. On Sep 5, 2009, at 16:51 , P. J. Alling wrote: I don't know if anyone else noticed this, (I'm a bit behind on the list), but BH photo has it listed as discontinued. Pentax's Japanese site has them in the discontinued list, though Pentax Imaging, (Pentax USA), still shows then a current. I'm confused by one thing. During the lead-up to the K-7 release, back when it was all mysterious and there were only rumours about it, Ned Bunnell and possibly other Pentax spokesmen stated that the K-7 was a new thing, a paradigm shift, and was *not* a replacement for the K20D. Does anyone else recall that, or is my memory worse than I thought? I seem to recall talk about the two models co- existing in the product line-up. So if that's true, then what *is* the replacement for the K20D, now that it's discontinued? Funny, the K-7 seems to me to be a complete replacement for the K20D in pretty-much every possible way. Oh well, marketing types and politicians must be cut from the same cloth I guess. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K20D and K200D now discontinued.
Pentax Japan's English site shows them as still available. BH is the only place I see where they are listed as discontinued, And even then they ask you to call them for more information. Let's see - the model is more than a year old - so it is understandable that they should no longer be made. Picked up on the computer hardware/software business model, I guess. Forced obsolescence. On Sep 5, 2009, at 16:51 , P. J. Alling wrote: I don't know if anyone else noticed this, (I'm a bit behind on the list), but BH photo has it listed as discontinued. Pentax's Japanese site has them in the discontinued list, though Pentax Imaging, (Pentax USA), still shows then a current. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.” — Kevan Olesen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K20D and K200D now discontinued.
Their Japanese site doesn't Google Translation http://tinyurl.com/lq3psw Joseph McAllister wrote: Pentax Japan's English site shows them as still available. BH is the only place I see where they are listed as discontinued, And even then they ask you to call them for more information. Let's see - the model is more than a year old - so it is understandable that they should no longer be made. Picked up on the computer hardware/software business model, I guess. Forced obsolescence. On Sep 5, 2009, at 16:51 , P. J. Alling wrote: I don't know if anyone else noticed this, (I'm a bit behind on the list), but BH photo has it listed as discontinued. Pentax's Japanese site has them in the discontinued list, though Pentax Imaging, (Pentax USA), still shows then a current. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.” — Kevan Olesen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K20D and K200D
May I try it for you? Descartes' version: Common sense is the best distributed thing in the world. Thibouille's version: Stupidity and ignorance are the best distributed things in the world. It seems to work pretty well like that, thank you :) I don't know what you're thinking about, but I guess that you too dislike this rumour thing around the K20(0)D. Frankly, I seriously doubt almost every bit of it. I honestly doubt that only half an year after the K200D Pentax will introduce its' replacement (why did they launch it, then?) and that after only one year since they launched the K10D they already have a replacement for it (and with the rumoured specs!). It took them 3,5 years to get from the *istD to the K10D and I don't think they've got the means to do better than that. I think the whole story is just ridiculous. A. M. In fact my post was reaction to Mark Roberts' post about aperture ring (and in very general world I think this is very true as well). That said, I think there might be quite a lot of truth in those rumours, even if it is somehow difficult to accept (for now). I think we will be surprised ;) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K20D and K200D
From: Inner Focus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/11/29 Thu PM 10:35:57 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax K20D and K200D - Original Message From: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:29:58 PM Subject: Re: Pentax K20D and K200D Descartes once said Le bon sens est la chose au monde la mieux partagée... I won't tréanslate it in English because my English knowledge is much too limited but defenitely I would change it to (still in French of course): La stupidité et l'ignorance sont les choses au monde les mieux partagées... Sorry for those who will not understand, I really can' translate correctly... May I try it for you? Descartes' version: Common sense is the best distributed thing in the world. Thibouille's version: Stupidity and ignorance are the best distributed things in the world. I don't know what you're thinking about, but I guess that you too dislike this rumour thing around the K20(0)D. Frankly, I seriously doubt almost every bit of it. I honestly doubt that only half an year after the K200D Pentax will introduce its' replacement (why did they launch it, then?) and that after only one year since they launched the K10D they already have a replacement for it (and with the rumoured specs!). It took them 3,5 years to get from the *istD to the K10D and I don't think they've got the means to do better than that. I think the whole story is just ridiculous. Haven't _quite_ grasped the commercial point of this digital malarky, have you? - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K20D and K200D
Doug Franklin wrote: David Savage wrote: It's called trap focus you can already do it. But it only works with MF lenses or AF lenses that turn off all their (digital?) electronics when in MF mode. For example, my SMCP-FA* 200/2.8 won't do it in any (lens) mode. My Sigma APO 400/5.6 Macro, though, will do trap focus when it's set to MF mode. It would be cool to be able to use AF lenses and select a different focus zone instead of dead centre. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K20D and K200D
Derby Chang wrote: Doug Franklin wrote: But [trap focus] only works with MF lenses or AF lenses that turn off all their (digital?) electronics when in MF mode. For example, my SMCP-FA* 200/2.8 won't do it in any (lens) mode. My Sigma APO 400/5.6 Macro, though, will do trap focus when it's set to MF mode. It would be cool to be able to use AF lenses and select a different focus zone instead of dead centre. Yes, it would. Especially when shooting stuff that's moving quickly through the field of view. I have found that I have to bias the AF point to get the focus where I want it on that sort of stuff. I believe the issue is lock time: the time from when the connection at the shutter release completes to the time that the shutter actually moves and the sensor/film get exposed. This time is short, but it's there, and you can see it in where the plane of focus lands in the image. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K20D and K200D
It would be nice, (and probably easy), to add a firmware switch to enable it with any lens, but I expect that Pentax wants to avoid a lot of returns for repair when the camera stops autofocusing properly. Beaker wrote: Dooh.. (slaps forhead) Dang- trap focus, why it's obvious, once you mention it. Just never put one and one together. Mike On Nov 28, 2007, at 8:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: You can already do that but it requires the use of a manual focus lens. (and sadly only works with the central focus sensor) Beaker wrote: Here is a mode I'd like to see, but have read about. It would have been really handy on several occasions. Don't know what it is called- you pre-focus the camera, select an AF spot, and let the camera trip the shutter when the subject moves into focus? Think car races, or maybe flying toddlers... Cheers Mike -- The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University football team. -- P. J. O'Roark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K20D and K200D
P. J. Alling wrote: It would be nice, (and probably easy), to add a firmware switch to enable it with any lens, but I expect that Pentax wants to avoid a lot of returns for repair when the camera stops autofocusing properly. Sad but true. I've been told be people associated with Pentax and Nikon that the main reason aperture rings are going away from lenses is not to save manufacturing costs but to save warranty repair costs from people who think their camera is broken when in fact they just don't have the lens set properly. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K20D and K200D
Descartes once said Le bon sens est la chose au monde la mieux partagée... I won't tréanslate it in English because my English knowledge is much too limited but defenitely I would change it to (still in French of course): La stupidité et l'ignorance sont les choses au monde les mieux partagées... Sorry for those who will not understand, I really can' translate correctly... -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K20D and K200D
- Original Message From: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:29:58 PM Subject: Re: Pentax K20D and K200D Descartes once said Le bon sens est la chose au monde la mieux partagée... I won't tréanslate it in English because my English knowledge is much too limited but defenitely I would change it to (still in French of course): La stupidité et l'ignorance sont les choses au monde les mieux partagées... Sorry for those who will not understand, I really can' translate correctly... May I try it for you? Descartes' version: Common sense is the best distributed thing in the world. Thibouille's version: Stupidity and ignorance are the best distributed things in the world. I don't know what you're thinking about, but I guess that you too dislike this rumour thing around the K20(0)D. Frankly, I seriously doubt almost every bit of it. I honestly doubt that only half an year after the K200D Pentax will introduce its' replacement (why did they launch it, then?) and that after only one year since they launched the K10D they already have a replacement for it (and with the rumoured specs!). It took them 3,5 years to get from the *istD to the K10D and I don't think they've got the means to do better than that. I think the whole story is just ridiculous. A. M. Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K20D and K200D
If it can do iso 6400 with the noise i get at current 800 with the K 10D, i *might* look into one. Moving from 10-14 MP is not a factor for me, i still shoot, 2.74 or 4 mp for equine work.:-) One question as i have not heard of the term before. What is AF trim. Dave On Nov 27, 2007 9:29 PM, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably old rumours to most here. But I like the idea of AF trim. And a little K200D might be a nice backup body. I miss the deep hand-grip that the *istDS has, similar to the K100D http://www.photographybay.com/2007/11/21/pentax-k20d-and-k200d/ - Pentax-designed 14 mp CMOS sensor in APS-C format, to be manufactured by Samsung. The most exciting part I have heard is that it will be able to do ISO 6400, and that noise at that speed will be comparable to ISO 800 with the K10D sensor. On-chip noise reduction is the key. If this is true, I will definitely want one. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K20D and K200D
David J Brooks wrote: If it can do iso 6400 with the noise i get at current 800 with the K 10D, i *might* look into one. Moving from 10-14 MP is not a factor for me, i still shoot, 2.74 or 4 mp for equine work.:-) One question as i have not heard of the term before. What is AF trim. Dave On Nov 27, 2007 9:29 PM, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably old rumours to most here. But I like the idea of AF trim. And a little K200D might be a nice backup body. I miss the deep hand-grip that the *istDS has, similar to the K100D http://www.photographybay.com/2007/11/21/pentax-k20d-and-k200d/ Canon has it but only on their EOS 1DIIIKSMs or whatever. If you have notorious front or back focusing probs with a particular lens, you can program the camera to compensate for it. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K20D and K200D
On Nov 28, 2007 8:09 AM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: One question as i have not heard of the term before. What is AF trim. Dave On Nov 27, 2007 9:29 PM, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Canon has it but only on their EOS 1DIIIKSMs or whatever. If you have notorious front or back focusing probs with a particular lens, you can program the camera to compensate for it. D Thanks Dave -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Oh and fps would be a good reason too... if that's something you interested in... On Nov 28, 2007 3:29 AM, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably old rumours to most here. But I like the idea of AF trim. And a little K200D might be a nice backup body. I miss the deep hand-grip that the *istDS has, similar to the K100D http://www.photographybay.com/2007/11/21/pentax-k20d-and-k200d/ - Pentax-designed 14 mp CMOS sensor in APS-C format, to be manufactured by Samsung. The most exciting part I have heard is that it will be able to do ISO 6400, and that noise at that speed will be comparable to ISO 800 with the K10D sensor. On-chip noise reduction is the key. If this is true, I will definitely want one. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Nov 28, 2007 4:04 AM, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh and fps would be a good reason too... if that's something you interested in... Sort of. I have cameras that can do 8-9 FPS but i rarely use over 3-4. Dave On Nov 28, 2007 3:29 AM, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably old rumours to most here. But I like the idea of AF trim. And a little K200D might be a nice backup body. I miss the deep hand-grip that the *istDS has, similar to the K100D http://www.photographybay.com/2007/11/21/pentax-k20d-and-k200d/ - Pentax-designed 14 mp CMOS sensor in APS-C format, to be manufactured by Samsung. The most exciting part I have heard is that it will be able to do ISO 6400, and that noise at that speed will be comparable to ISO 800 with the K10D sensor. On-chip noise reduction is the key. If this is true, I will definitely want one. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Here is a mode I'd like to see, but have read about. It would have been really handy on several occasions. Don't know what it is called- you pre-focus the camera, select an AF spot, and let the camera trip the shutter when the subject moves into focus? Think car races, or maybe flying toddlers... Cheers Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Beaker Subject: Re: Pentax K20D and K200D Here is a mode I'd like to see, but have read about. It would have been really handy on several occasions. Don't know what it is called- you pre-focus the camera, select an AF spot, and let the camera trip the shutter when the subject moves into focus? Think car races, or maybe flying toddlers... Put any manual focus lens (that fits) onto a Pentax AF SLR and you can do that. It's called trap focus. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Snap (or trip) on focus. Regards, Bob... - Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. From: Beaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is a mode I'd like to see, but have read about. It would have been really handy on several occasions. Don't know what it is called- you pre-focus the camera, select an AF spot, and let the camera trip the shutter when the subject moves into focus? Think car races, or maybe flying toddlers... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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At 09:25 AM 29/11/2007, Beaker wrote: Here is a mode I'd like to see, but have read about. It would have been really handy on several occasions. Don't know what it is called- you pre-focus the camera, select an AF spot, and let the camera trip the shutter when the subject moves into focus? Think car races, or maybe flying toddlers... It's called trap focus you can already do it. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You can already do that but it requires the use of a manual focus lens. (and sadly only works with the central focus sensor) Beaker wrote: Here is a mode I'd like to see, but have read about. It would have been really handy on several occasions. Don't know what it is called- you pre-focus the camera, select an AF spot, and let the camera trip the shutter when the subject moves into focus? Think car races, or maybe flying toddlers... Cheers Mike -- The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University football team. -- P. J. O'Roark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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David Savage wrote: It's called trap focus you can already do it. But it only works with MF lenses or AF lenses that turn off all their (digital?) electronics when in MF mode. For example, my SMCP-FA* 200/2.8 won't do it in any (lens) mode. My Sigma APO 400/5.6 Macro, though, will do trap focus when it's set to MF mode. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Dooh.. (slaps forhead) Dang- trap focus, why it's obvious, once you mention it. Just never put one and one together. Mike On Nov 28, 2007, at 8:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: You can already do that but it requires the use of a manual focus lens. (and sadly only works with the central focus sensor) Beaker wrote: Here is a mode I'd like to see, but have read about. It would have been really handy on several occasions. Don't know what it is called- you pre-focus the camera, select an AF spot, and let the camera trip the shutter when the subject moves into focus? Think car races, or maybe flying toddlers... Cheers Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Derby Chang a écrit : Probably old rumours to most here. But I like the idea of AF trim. And a little K200D might be a nice backup body. I miss the deep hand-grip that the *istDS has, similar to the K100D http://www.photographybay.com/2007/11/21/pentax-k20d-and-k200d/ I have read elsewhere Samsung sensor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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My informations are Pentax sensor. Obviously Pentax can't fab the sensor themselves so they need a manufacturer: Samsung or Cypress. Samsung is more likely of course. BTW this post is only a copy/paste of what is dicussed for a week or two on Pentaxforums/DpReview etc. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Here's another my buddy emailed me: (much of the same stuff) http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/26/pentax-rumored-to-be-readying-k20d-k200d-dslrs/ -Brendan --- Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably old rumours to most here. But I like the idea of AF trim. And a little K200D might be a nice backup body. I miss the deep hand-grip that the *istDS has, similar to the K100D http://www.photographybay.com/2007/11/21/pentax-k20d-and-k200d/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Derby Chang wrote: Probably old rumours to most here. Ah. It's speculation-about-new-cameras time again. So apparently Scott, who thought the aperture simulator discussion was up next, was wrong ;-) We could combine the two, of course... But I like the idea of AF trim. And a little K200D might be a nice backup body. I miss the deep hand-grip that the *istDS has, similar to the K100D http://www.photographybay.com/2007/11/21/pentax-k20d-and-k200d/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I hadn't seen exactly these rumors before. However 14mp is getting into the resolution medium speed perfectly exposed 35mm film is capable of recording, and a heck of a lot better than most 35mm film actually does record. Pentax digital has more or less come of age. Now if Pentax can manage to shoehorn 24mp, (doubling the linear resolution of the 6mp cameras), onto a chip with relatively low noise, we'll have reached the point where an upgrade from the *ist D and Ds is worthwhile leaving aside AS technology. (There that should start an argument). Derby Chang wrote: Probably old rumours to most here. But I like the idea of AF trim. And a little K200D might be a nice backup body. I miss the deep hand-grip that the *istDS has, similar to the K100D http://www.photographybay.com/2007/11/21/pentax-k20d-and-k200d/ -- The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University football team. -- P. J. O'Roark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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No argument here. But even the upgrade from 6mp to 10 gave me a lot in terms of room to crop, so I'm expecting another plus from 14mp. And I suspect the new sensor will probably show less noise than the current crop. That would be another big plus. Paul -- Original message -- From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hadn't seen exactly these rumors before. However 14mp is getting into the resolution medium speed perfectly exposed 35mm film is capable of recording, and a heck of a lot better than most 35mm film actually does record. Pentax digital has more or less come of age. Now if Pentax can manage to shoehorn 24mp, (doubling the linear resolution of the 6mp cameras), onto a chip with relatively low noise, we'll have reached the point where an upgrade from the *ist D and Ds is worthwhile leaving aside AS technology. (There that should start an argument). Derby Chang wrote: Probably old rumours to most here. But I like the idea of AF trim. And a little K200D might be a nice backup body. I miss the deep hand-grip that the *istDS has, similar to the K100D http://www.photographybay.com/2007/11/21/pentax-k20d-and-k200d/ -- The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University football team. -- P. J. O'Roark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Probably old rumours to most here. But I like the idea of AF trim. And a little K200D might be a nice backup body. I miss the deep hand-grip that the *istDS has, similar to the K100D http://www.photographybay.com/2007/11/21/pentax-k20d-and-k200d/ - Pentax-designed 14 mp CMOS sensor in APS-C format, to be manufactured by Samsung. The most exciting part I have heard is that it will be able to do ISO 6400, and that noise at that speed will be comparable to ISO 800 with the K10D sensor. On-chip noise reduction is the key. If this is true, I will definitely want one. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
