Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after all...
That lens has been back on BH for almost two years now (that I've been aware of it) so I don't think it's proof of full frame. The last time I checked the price was $475, though. On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 11:48 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Look what shows up as a current product at BH http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/180121-USA/Pentax_22190_Wide_Angle_35mm_f_2_0.html I thought this lens was discontinued years ago. -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after all...
It hasn't been listed on the http://www.pentaximaging.com web site for any of that time. It was officially discontinued at BH three years ago and by Pentax at the same time. I don't think it's been there all that time, I kept haunting there hoping to find one. On 2/6/2013 2:47 PM, Bryan Jacoby wrote: That lens has been back on BH for almost two years now (that I've been aware of it) so I don't think it's proof of full frame. The last time I checked the price was $475, though. On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 11:48 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Look what shows up as a current product at BH http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/180121-USA/Pentax_22190_Wide_Angle_35mm_f_2_0.html I thought this lens was discontinued years ago. -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after all...
They could press a K-Mount onto a wet turd, stick a full frame sensor into the other end and I'd buy the thing and pretend that my shit doesn't stink. The main problem with Pentax's loyal customer base is that they got involved with Pentax because they were the budget brand. Note how every time a new model is released, the number of people who say they will wait until the price comes down outnumbers the people who actually buy the thing out of the gate. bill I'll let Pentax know. They could significantly increase their profit margin with this approach. Must the wet turd be weather-sealed and have shake-reduction? :) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after all...
On 2/3/2013 9:19 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Rob Studdert wrote: On 4 February 2013 12:23, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: I've always said that all those people complaining about the lack of a FF Pentax would NEVER BUY IT if it were announced because it would cost ~$2,500, which Pentax cheapskates would find too high. Happy to be proven wrong, of course. So long as it's better spec'd than a D600 otherwise it would be a bit rich. I'm thinking D600 spec but with the benefit of in-body image stabilization. I picked up a new client a couple of months ago. The first check from that client was put aside for the purpose of full-frame purchase. I hope you've put it in an inflation proof investment. -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after, all...
When I first bought into Pentax it mas a middle of the road camera manufacture that built rock solid hard to kill cameras. My original Spotmatic took a 3 foot drop onto concrete and after having the meter re calibrated took photos just as well as it had before, (but with a huge dent in it's prism housing). It did not survive the later fall off the 50 foot cliff to the jagged rocks below unfortunately, but that's another story. When I got tired of trying to swap screw mount lenses fast, (possible but usually problematic), I looked at a lot of different camera systems, and really was leaning towards either Nikon in the form of a nice Nikkormat FTn, (which I had used at a couple of Newspapers), Olympus with the tiny jewel like, OM1, or a Pentax KX. Anyway you looked at it I was going to have to buy all new lenses, Not a huge problem as I only had a 35mm f2.8 a 55mm f1.8 and a 150mm f4, which I[d gotten a fantastic deal on at some point. I really did like the 150mm aov. I had pretty much decided on an OM1, (and a Zuiko 70-150 zoom to keep the kit small), when Pentax announced the new M series cameras, and the MX which was pretty much the same price as the OM1 with a full information viewfinder, and Vivitar had just announced a 70-150mm Zoom that was just a little faster than the Zuiko, and was reputed to be the same Optical formula as the Legendary 70-210 Series 1. So I ended up with Pentax yet again. Not because it was less expensive but because of it's superior features at roughly the same price. On 2/4/2013 12:00 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Paul Stenquist That's fine if it has $2500 worth of content. But I certainly won't complain if it compares favorably to cameras costing more. That's what brought me to Pentax to begin with, compares favorably to cameras costing more. I think they need to continue to do that. -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after all...
On 05/02/2013 1:45 PM, Tom C wrote: They could press a K-Mount onto a wet turd, stick a full frame sensor into the other end and I'd buy the thing and pretend that my shit doesn't stink. The main problem with Pentax's loyal customer base is that they got involved with Pentax because they were the budget brand. Note how every time a new model is released, the number of people who say they will wait until the price comes down outnumbers the people who actually buy the thing out of the gate. bill I'll let Pentax know. They could significantly increase their profit margin with this approach. Must the wet turd be weather-sealed and have shake-reduction? :) Tom C. It doesn't even have to be wet. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after, all...
From: Paul Stenquist That's fine if it has $2500 worth of content. But I certainly won't complain if it compares favorably to cameras costing more. That's what brought me to Pentax to begin with, compares favorably to cameras costing more. I think they need to continue to do that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after all...
On 2/2/13, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: Look what shows up as a current product at BH http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/180121-USA/ Pentax_22190_Wide_Angle_35mm_f_2_0.html And the perfect accompaniment... http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/675922-REG/ Yamaha_RHH135_RHH_135_Hi_Hat_Cymbal.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after all...
Funny :) By the way, apparently Pentax Japan confirmed the FF, in a not-yet-released Pentaxforums interview. Since last year they started talking about FF (as in: we're developing it, marketing must think about a profitable solution). I hope a certain event involving a hat would be properly documented; fortunately, there is plenty of time to find the proper seasoning. Regards, Alex On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 2/2/13, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: Look what shows up as a current product at BH http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/180121-USA/ Pentax_22190_Wide_Angle_35mm_f_2_0.html And the perfect accompaniment... http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/675922-REG/ Yamaha_RHH135_RHH_135_Hi_Hat_Cymbal.html -- Cheers, Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after all...
On Feb 2, 2013, at 8:48 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Look what shows up as a current product at BH http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/180121-USA/Pentax_22190_Wide_Angle_35mm_f_2_0.html I thought this lens was discontinued years ago. Interesting to see, along with this: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/214117-pentax-confirms-full-frame-cp-inteview-pentax-forums.html -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after all...
On 3 February 2013 22:48, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Interesting to see, along with this: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/214117-pentax-confirms-full-frame-cp-inteview-pentax-forums.html Interesting but I'll believe it when I see it (with my A16/2.8 fisheye giving me 180 degrees DAOV :) -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after all...
A full frame camera may be coming, but this is no evidence. BH has offered the 35/2 off and on for years. They probably have a stockpile of them. Paul On Feb 2, 2013, at 11:48 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Look what shows up as a current product at BH http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/180121-USA/Pentax_22190_Wide_Angle_35mm_f_2_0.html I thought this lens was discontinued years ago. -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after all...
On 03/02/2013 6:18 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: A full frame camera may be coming, but this is no evidence. Quite true. The Pentax interview mentioned that one would be released in 2013 or later. The or later is the important part. The funny thin is. I suspect a full framer from Pentax would be instantly profitable, given the amount of angst riddled posts we see on various forums and the like. Either that, or people would wait to buy it until the price point was such that Pentax would lose money on it (probably more likely given the user base). William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after all...
Oh come on Bill, I'm sure the Saskatchewan Profit Center would make still make money. They have a small but loyal customer base. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/02/2013 6:18 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: A full frame camera may be coming, but this is no evidence. Quite true. The Pentax interview mentioned that one would be released in 2013 or later. The or later is the important part. The funny thin is. I suspect a full framer from Pentax would be instantly profitable, given the amount of angst riddled posts we see on various forums and the like. Either that, or people would wait to buy it until the price point was such that Pentax would lose money on it (probably more likely given the user base). William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after all...
From: P. J. Alling Look what shows up as a current product at BH http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/180121-USA/Pentax_22190_Wide_Angle_35mm_f_2_0.html I thought this lens was discontinued years ago. Maybe someone from Ricoh was doing some housecleaning and found a bunch of them in the back of some forgotten Pentax warehouse. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after all...
On 03/02/2013 12:03 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Oh come on Bill, I'm sure the Saskatchewan Profit Center would make still make money. They have a small but loyal customer base. :-) Regards, Bob S. They could press a K-Mount onto a wet turd, stick a full frame sensor into the other end and I'd buy the thing and pretend that my shit doesn't stink. The main problem with Pentax's loyal customer base is that they got involved with Pentax because they were the budget brand. Note how every time a new model is released, the number of people who say they will wait until the price comes down outnumbers the people who actually buy the thing out of the gate. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after all...
Bill wrote: The main problem with Pentax's loyal customer base is that they got involved with Pentax because they were the budget brand. Note how every time a new model is released, the number of people who say they will wait until the price comes down outnumbers the people who actually buy the thing out of the gate. There's a lot of truth in that. I remember being the only one who was disappointed that the price of the K10-D was too *low* when it was introduced; I wanted something priced near (and competitive with) the cameras in the $2000 range at that time. Mind you, I think (hope) the success of the 645D has given Pentax the courage to make the full-frame camera in the $2000-2500 range when it appears. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after all...
That's fine if ithas $2500 worth of content. But I certainly won't complain if it compares favorably to cameras costing more. Paul via phone On Feb 3, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bill wrote: The main problem with Pentax's loyal customer base is that they got involved with Pentax because they were the budget brand. Note how every time a new model is released, the number of people who say they will wait until the price comes down outnumbers the people who actually buy the thing out of the gate. There's a lot of truth in that. I remember being the only one who was disappointed that the price of the K10-D was too *low* when it was introduced; I wanted something priced near (and competitive with) the cameras in the $2000 range at that time. Mind you, I think (hope) the success of the 645D has given Pentax the courage to make the full-frame camera in the $2000-2500 range when it appears. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after all...
On Feb 3, 2013, at 5:48 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Interesting to see, along with this: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/214117-pentax-confirms-full-frame-cp-inteview-pentax-forums.html Oh, Pentax, quit fretting and just do it. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after all...
Well, when I bought my K10D in 2007 it was because I got it for the same price as the Canon Digital Rebel of the day. It was like comparing apples and oranges (if fruits could take photographs). The K10D out-spec'd the Digital Rebel every which way, and thus my fate was sealed. I've always said that all those people complaining about the lack of a FF Pentax would NEVER BUY IT if it were announced because it would cost ~$2,500, which Pentax cheapskates would find too high. Happy to be proven wrong, of course. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 3 February 2013 14:48, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bill wrote: The main problem with Pentax's loyal customer base is that they got involved with Pentax because they were the budget brand. Note how every time a new model is released, the number of people who say they will wait until the price comes down outnumbers the people who actually buy the thing out of the gate. There's a lot of truth in that. I remember being the only one who was disappointed that the price of the K10-D was too *low* when it was introduced; I wanted something priced near (and competitive with) the cameras in the $2000 range at that time. Mind you, I think (hope) the success of the 645D has given Pentax the courage to make the full-frame camera in the $2000-2500 range when it appears. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after all...
On 4 February 2013 12:23, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: I've always said that all those people complaining about the lack of a FF Pentax would NEVER BUY IT if it were announced because it would cost ~$2,500, which Pentax cheapskates would find too high. Happy to be proven wrong, of course. So long as it's better spec'd than a D600 otherwise it would be a bit rich. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Perhaps the rumors of a Pentax FF cameras are true after all...
Rob Studdert wrote: On 4 February 2013 12:23, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: I've always said that all those people complaining about the lack of a FF Pentax would NEVER BUY IT if it were announced because it would cost ~$2,500, which Pentax cheapskates would find too high. Happy to be proven wrong, of course. So long as it's better spec'd than a D600 otherwise it would be a bit rich. I'm thinking D600 spec but with the benefit of in-body image stabilization. I picked up a new client a couple of months ago. The first check from that client was put aside for the purpose of full-frame purchase. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
