Re: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...

2005-06-02 Thread Alan Chan
 If Pal is correct and Pentax is working on an EOS-killer,...

Okay, so we now know the upcoming Pentax semi-pro body will be named 
EOS-killer.
What else?

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Re: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...

2005-06-02 Thread Alan Chan
--- Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What are the odds, considering the information strategy the mother 
 company has?
 Pentax Japan tells the distributors less than nothing! That's the case 
 in Europe, at least.

Applies to all actual products too. They just let us Pentax users to discover 
the
charm of their products.

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Re: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...

2005-06-02 Thread Pl Jensen

  If Pal is correct and Pentax is working on an EOS-killer,...

I think I said they would make a camera that outperforms what Canon can offer 
in image quality...


Pål





Re: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...

2005-06-02 Thread P. J. Alling

I'm still holding out for the *ist-DLX...

Alan Chan wrote:


If Pal is correct and Pentax is working on an EOS-killer,...
   



Okay, so we now know the upcoming Pentax semi-pro body will be named 
EOS-killer.
What else?

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Re: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...

2005-06-01 Thread Dario Bonazza

This is marketing. It means nothing.

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 4:50 AM
Subject: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...



...a full-page Pentax advert containing the following copy:

At Pentax we've been making some of the world's finest lenses for over 
50 years.  Now, with the *istDS we've created a digital SLR that's 
compatible with all of them, with just a few limitations in functions.


Am I the only person to find it amusing that one of the least elegant 
features of the Pentax digital SLRs (the automatic stop-down metering 
mode that works around the lack of an aperture indicator coupler) is now 
one of their major selling points?


Conspiracy theories:
* This proves that Pentax aren't planning to release any new lenses in 
the near future.
* This proves that Pentax realise the importance of backwards 
compatibility; we can expect future bodies to feature the reappearance 
of the aperture indicator coupler.

* This is marketing.  It means nothing.

S





Re: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...

2005-06-01 Thread David Mann

On Jun 1, 2005, at 2:50 PM, Steve Jolly wrote:

Am I the only person to find it amusing that one of the least  
elegant features of the Pentax digital SLRs (the automatic stop- 
down metering mode that works around the lack of an aperture  
indicator coupler) is now one of their major selling points?


I'm still wondering where their image stabilising and ultrasonic  
lenses are.


If Pal is correct and Pentax is working on an EOS-killer, I guess we  
can expect to see these features soon... any day now... just around  
the corner...


Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/




Re: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...

2005-06-01 Thread Alan Chan
--- David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm still wondering where their image stabilising and ultrasonic  
 lenses are.
 
 If Pal is correct and Pentax is working on an EOS-killer, I guess we  
 can expect to see these features soon... any day now... just around  
 the corner...

IMHO, Pentax desperately need IS/VR type technology to kill anything. Anything 
else
w/o IS/VR first is a waste of resource.

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Re: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...

2005-06-01 Thread Jostein
Quoting Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[...] 
 Conspiracy theories:
[...]

I think the most likely conspiracy theory is that Pentax Japan is holding
their cards to tightly to their chest as usual. Pentax UK sounds like they
don't know what's coming, so they choose to focus on the past.

Pentax Japan is extremely inept at making use of buzz for creating interest
about coming products. If the worlwide distributors were fed with little bits
of information they were allowed to pass on to dealers and customers, the whole
brand-name would suddenly be more active and viable.

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Re: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...

2005-06-01 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
On 6/1/05, Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 IMHO, Pentax desperately need IS/VR type technology to kill anything. 

Actually, they only need some nukes grin
More good lenses, an MZ-S-like DSLR, accesoriesflashes - that will
keep me away from the dark side. Uh, and money to buy them ;)

Alex Sarbu



Re: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...

2005-06-01 Thread Pl Jensen
Jostein wrote:

 I think the most likely conspiracy theory is that Pentax Japan is holding
 their cards to tightly to their chest as usual. Pentax UK sounds like they
 don't know what's coming, so they choose to focus on the past.
 
 Pentax Japan is extremely inept at making use of buzz for creating interest
 about coming products. If the worlwide distributors were fed with little bits
 of information they were allowed to pass on to dealers and customers, the 
 whole
 brand-name would suddenly be more active and viable.


But this has changed the last year or so after the new boss was hired. Before, 
the Pentax engineers leaked, now the boss does. Eg. it is a couple of years ago 
they told us about an MF DSLR with sensor from Kodak. The baby *ist (DL) was 
also mentioned and according to the same sorce, a semi pro DSLR is forthcoming.


Pål





Re: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...

2005-06-01 Thread Jostein


- Original Message - 
From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Before, the Pentax engineers leaked, now the boss does.


:-)

Well, neither has been very effective at propagating authorised rumors 
to the distributors and the dealers. That's where the hearsay is most 
likely to catch the customers' ears...


Jostein 



Re: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...

2005-06-01 Thread Graywolf

Maybe they have. However, at least here in the US, Canon and Nikon provide 
bigger kickbacks to the dealers, and bigger spiffs to the salespeople, so those 
are pushed heavily. Often you have to beat the salesperson up to get her to 
show you anything else.

graywolf
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---


Jostein wrote:


- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Before, the Pentax engineers leaked, now the boss does.



:-)

Well, neither has been very effective at propagating authorised rumors 
to the distributors and the dealers. That's where the hearsay is most 
likely to catch the customers' ears...


Jostein




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Re: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...

2005-06-01 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 07:29:39PM +1200, David Mann wrote:
 On Jun 1, 2005, at 2:50 PM, Steve Jolly wrote:
 
 Am I the only person to find it amusing that one of the least  
 elegant features of the Pentax digital SLRs (the automatic stop- 
 down metering mode that works around the lack of an aperture  
 indicator coupler) is now one of their major selling points?
 
 I'm still wondering where their image stabilising and ultrasonic  
 lenses are.
 
 If Pal is correct and Pentax is working on an EOS-killer, I guess we  
 can expect to see these features soon... any day now... just around  
 the corner...

Of course we can expect to see these features.

The question is whether these expectations will be realised :-)




Re: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...

2005-06-01 Thread Jostein


- Original Message - 
From: Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Maybe they have. However, at least here in the US, Canon and Nikon 
provide bigger kickbacks to the dealers, and bigger spiffs to the 
salespeople, so those are pushed heavily. Often you have to beat the 
salesperson up to get her to show you anything else.


What are the odds, considering the information strategy the mother 
company has?
Pentax Japan tells the distributors less than nothing! That's the case 
in Europe, at least.


Jostein 



Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...

2005-05-31 Thread Steve Jolly

...a full-page Pentax advert containing the following copy:

At Pentax we've been making some of the world's finest lenses for over 
50 years.  Now, with the *istDS we've created a digital SLR that's 
compatible with all of them, with just a few limitations in functions.


Am I the only person to find it amusing that one of the least elegant 
features of the Pentax digital SLRs (the automatic stop-down metering 
mode that works around the lack of an aperture indicator coupler) is now 
one of their major selling points?


Conspiracy theories:
* This proves that Pentax aren't planning to release any new lenses in 
the near future.
* This proves that Pentax realise the importance of backwards 
compatibility; we can expect future bodies to feature the reappearance 
of the aperture indicator coupler.

* This is marketing.  It means nothing.

S



Re: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...

2005-05-31 Thread P. J. Alling
My theory, Pentax realized they cocked up.  It took them long enough.  
(I'd say idiot marketers but that's self evident).


Steve Jolly wrote:


...a full-page Pentax advert containing the following copy:

At Pentax we've been making some of the world's finest lenses for 
over 50 years.  Now, with the *istDS we've created a digital SLR 
that's compatible with all of them, with just a few limitations in 
functions.


Am I the only person to find it amusing that one of the least elegant 
features of the Pentax digital SLRs (the automatic stop-down metering 
mode that works around the lack of an aperture indicator coupler) is 
now one of their major selling points?


Conspiracy theories:
* This proves that Pentax aren't planning to release any new lenses 
in the near future.
* This proves that Pentax realise the importance of backwards 
compatibility; we can expect future bodies to feature the reappearance 
of the aperture indicator coupler.

* This is marketing.  It means nothing.

S





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