Re: Slide scanners

2023-05-15 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 15.05.23 um 16:21 schrieb Rick Womer:

I’d like to start digitizing some of my 35mm slides.

There are about a dozen slide-and-film scanners on Amazon, with prices ranging 
from about $140 to $350.

Any recommendations or warnings?


The really good film scanners are no longer available new. I've used
various Nikon sanners over the last 20+ years. They all have the
diadvantage of their rather 'harsh' light source that tends to emphasize
film grain. Somewhat like the difference between enlargers with
condensers and diffuse light sources.

Their second drawback is that the film plane and the light source/mirror
are disposed horizontally: more room to collect dust. So they needed
regular cleaning by the local Nikon service.

I've been using a Minolta Dimage Scan Elite 5400 for many years now and
I'm very happy with the results. The scan quality is excellent and it
comes with carriers for digitizing 4 framed slides or strips of 6 negs
in one go. The innards are positioned vertically and I've never needed
to have it cleaned.

The optical quality of this Minolta scanner is so good that many are now
cannibalised by people using teir lens for macro photography since some
*beeep* blabbed about it in his photo blog.

Software is no problem as this scanner is supported by Ed Hamrick's
Vuescan (www.hamrick.com) even under the latest versions of Windoze and
Mac OS.

Ralf

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Re: Slide scanners

2023-05-15 Thread Toine
Or the JJC adapter which mounts on a camera. Most cheap scanners have
mediocre optics..

On Mon, 15 May 2023, 16:21 Rick Womer,  wrote:

> I’d like to start digitizing some of my 35mm slides.
>
> There are about a dozen slide-and-film scanners on Amazon, with prices
> ranging from about $140 to $350.
>
> Any recommendations or warnings?
>
> Rick
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Slide scanners

2023-05-15 Thread Rick Womer
I’d like to start digitizing some of my 35mm slides.

There are about a dozen slide-and-film scanners on Amazon, with prices ranging 
from about $140 to $350.

Any recommendations or warnings?

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Re: Slide scanners

2023-05-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> On May 1, 2023, at 9:54 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> I scan a few slides and negatives from time to time using a copy-camera 
> approach now, with very good quality results. That's a doable prospect, 
> rather than doing hundreds to thousands of slides. 

> On May 1, 2023, at 10:54 AM, Bob W PDML  wrote:
> 
> I’ve been using a Pentax Slide Holder 1X K with Pentax K extension tube #3, a 
> reversing adapter, and a Pentax-M 50mm macro attached to a MFT* digital 
> camera, lit by a Kaiser light table. It’s very quick and the results are 
> good, at least for use as proofs. 
> …
> *with a full-frame digital camera a different set of tubes/lens might be 
> needed but the principle is the same of course, and there would be increased 
> resolution from not cropping the unused bits of the 4/3rds frame. But I don’t 
> have a full frame colour digital camera. 

BobW, 

Sounds like my setup but instead of a dedicated slide holder attachment for the 
camera, I use a macro lens and a film carrier with the camera on a copy stand 
and a flat-panel light box providing the illumination. It's a bit more setup 
work, but very flexible. 

The film carrier I use is "The Essential Film Holder" … I have frames and 
guides for 35mm slide, strip, 24x65 ultrawide 35, 6x4.5, 6x6, and 6x9 formats. 

For 35mm slides, I mostly use the Leica CL (APS-C format) which allows a lower 
magnification to fill the frame and nets about 22-24 Mpixel depending on how 
fussy I am with framing setup. For capture speed, it's best to be a little 
loose and lose a couple Mpixels with cropping in post. Lately, I've been using 
the Leica M10-M for B&W negatives: It has more dynamic range than the color 
sensor and with 40 Mpixel full frame I can get extremely nice results even with 
6x6 negatives (resulting scan is ~26 Mpixel to capture a full square neg). 

Here's a little Flickr.com album where I document the camera setup, the EFH, 
and show a couple of recent slide scans I did with an old slide or three I 
found in my files from high school days.

  https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAhtoP

If anyone is interested in The Essential Film Holder, see 
https://clifforth.co.uk/ for details. 

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Re: Slide scanners

2023-05-01 Thread Bob W PDML
I’ve been using a Pentax Slide Holder 1X K with Pentax K extension tube #3, a 
reversing adapter, and a Pentax-M 50mm macro attached to a MFT* digital camera, 
lit by a Kaiser light table. It’s very quick and the results are good, at least 
for use as proofs. 

Nikon has a setup like it, based around the ES-2 adapter, D850 camera and a 
60mm macro lens, specifically for digitising slides & negs, but for some reason 
they only output jpeg.

*with a full-frame digital camera a different set of tubes/lens might be needed 
but the principle is the same of course, and there would be increased 
resolution from not cropping the unused bits of the 4/3rds frame. But I don’t 
have a full frame colour digital camera. 

> On 1 May 2023, at 18:30, Eric Weir  wrote:
> 
> 
> Have you thought about paying a scanning service. I can’t say I have 
> experience, but I looked into it once. And I may use it yet, though I don’t 
> have anywhere near your number of slides. 
> 
> I don’t know about quality or cost. I do know that they let you decide after 
> scanning which slides you want to pay for. Or at least they did when I 
> checked into a few years ago.
> 
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> 
> - W.G. Sebald
> 
>> On May 1, 2023, at 10:11 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>> 
>> Good day, all,
>> 
>> I have 20-odd binders of 35mm slides in slide pages, plus some carousels.
>> 
>> It’s time to digitize these.
>> 
>> So, I’m looking for a scanner that can automatically feed and scan a stack 
>> of slides. Any recommendations (or warnings)?
>> 
>> Rick
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Re: Slide scanners

2023-05-01 Thread ann sanfedele
Rick - I have and Epson V500 that can only scan 4 slides at once and 
scan at 4800 like Paul.. However, what I did for organization's sake
is projected the photos in my carousels (which had already been pruned 
to some extent) put my camera on a tri pod and photographed the
projected images.. putting them in folders on my computer naming the 
number of the Carousel and basic subject.. the quality is good enough to
remind me what I shot ... not good enough to use  - rather like a 
scribbled note pad if you were writing the great american novel :-)


But good enough to glimpse on the monitor to pull out the best ones to 
make good files from... and works as an index .. you don't really want
to dump your original Chromes, right?  if that is what you are thinking, 
think again.  those carefully stored chromes will last a really   long time
if they are images you consider worth saving - and someone else might 
appreciate them not being destroyed.


File cabinets and original chromes , like letters on paper and real 
books don't  disappear if your hardrive crashes... or the technology 
becomes

obsolete in 5 minutes.

ann



On 5/1/2023 11:11 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

Good day, all,

I have 20-odd binders of 35mm slides in slide pages, plus some carousels.

It’s time to digitize these.

So, I’m looking for a scanner that can automatically feed and scan a stack of 
slides. Any recommendations (or warnings)?

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Re: Slide scanners

2023-05-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
;No offense taken. But I do like the results at 4800. And with a 35mm 
transparency of neg, that gives me an image large enough to print a 12 x18 with 
some adjustment. Here’s a full res scan of a 50 year old BW negative that I 
scanned for publication.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/llpqbbl42ayaste/shake.8..jpg?dl=0





> On May 1, 2023, at 1:22 PM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 01.05.23 um 18:06 schrieb Paul Stenquist:
>> Perhaps, but I don’t scan charts. I scan photos, and I like the results I 
>> get at 4800 when printed, not pixel peeking.
> 
> Sorry. Won't happen again.
> 
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Re: Slide scanners

2023-05-01 Thread Eric Weir

Have you thought about paying a scanning service. I can’t say I have 
experience, but I looked into it once. And I may use it yet, though I don’t 
have anywhere near your number of slides. 

I don’t know about quality or cost. I do know that they let you decide after 
scanning which slides you want to pay for. Or at least they did when I checked 
into a few years ago.

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> On May 1, 2023, at 10:11 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Good day, all,
> 
> I have 20-odd binders of 35mm slides in slide pages, plus some carousels.
> 
> It’s time to digitize these.
> 
> So, I’m looking for a scanner that can automatically feed and scan a stack of 
> slides. Any recommendations (or warnings)?
> 
> Rick
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Re: Slide scanners

2023-05-01 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 01.05.23 um 18:06 schrieb Paul Stenquist:

Perhaps, but I don’t scan charts. I scan photos, and I like the results I get 
at 4800 when printed, not pixel peeking.


Sorry. Won't happen again.

Ralf

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Re: Slide scanners

2023-05-01 Thread Henk Terhell
I follow the recommendations on this page, with 300 for scanning of color
prints.
https://www.scantips.com/basics08.html

Henk


Op ma 1 mei 2023 om 18:06 schreef Paul Stenquist :

> Perhaps, but I don’t scan charts. I scan photos, and I like the results I
> get at 4800 when printed, not pixel peeking.
>
> > On May 1, 2023, at 11:55 AM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> >
> > Am 01.05.23 um 17:42 schrieb Paul Stenquist:
> >> I scan slides on my Epson V850 Pro flatbed scanner. ... The epson will
> scan them at 4900 dpi native, generating very nice hi-kres files.
> >
> > You might as well scan at 2400 instead of 4800 and save a lot of time.
> >
> > From the test report by filmscanner.info:
> >
> > "In the scan our our USAF-test chart at 4800 ppi resolution (left
> > image), the horizontal lines of the elements 5.3 and the verical lines
> > of the element 5.5 can just be distinguished. According to our
> > resolution chart, this equals an effective resolution of about 2300 ppi."
> >
> > https://www.filmscanner.info/en/EpsonPerfectionV850Pro.html
> >
> > See also:
> >
> https://www.sebastian-schlueter.com/blog/2017/3/10/optimum-resolution-sharpening-settings-for-epson-scanners
> >
> > Ralf
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Re: Slide scanners

2023-05-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hi Rick,

In the past, I was been engaged to do such projects from time to time, the last 
time about a decade or so ago. It's very tedious work and takes forever. Since 
then, I recommend they have the scanning done by ScanCafe.com, who are well set 
up to do it efficiently. Plus you don't have to accept 100% of the scans 
either. 

The good film scanners that did this kind of work well with automation like 
that  (like the Nikon SuperCoolScan V ED) are all long out of production now, 
and they were quite expensive when new. Pro-grade equipment to do this work is 
available from limited suppliers but, again, it's designed for commercial 
applications and not approachable in price for home use.

I scan a few slides and negatives from time to time using a copy-camera 
approach now, with very good quality results. That's a doable prospect, rather 
than doing hundreds to thousands of slides. 

G


> On May 1, 2023, at 8:11 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Good day, all,
> 
> I have 20-odd binders of 35mm slides in slide pages, plus some carousels.
> 
> It’s time to digitize these.
> 
> So, I’m looking for a scanner that can automatically feed and scan a stack of 
> slides. Any recommendations (or warnings)?
> 
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Re: Slide scanners

2023-05-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Perhaps, but I don’t scan charts. I scan photos, and I like the results I get 
at 4800 when printed, not pixel peeking. 

> On May 1, 2023, at 11:55 AM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 01.05.23 um 17:42 schrieb Paul Stenquist:
>> I scan slides on my Epson V850 Pro flatbed scanner. ... The epson will scan 
>> them at 4900 dpi native, generating very nice hi-kres files.
> 
> You might as well scan at 2400 instead of 4800 and save a lot of time.
> 
> From the test report by filmscanner.info:
> 
> "In the scan our our USAF-test chart at 4800 ppi resolution (left
> image), the horizontal lines of the elements 5.3 and the verical lines
> of the element 5.5 can just be distinguished. According to our
> resolution chart, this equals an effective resolution of about 2300 ppi."
> 
> https://www.filmscanner.info/en/EpsonPerfectionV850Pro.html
> 
> See also:
> https://www.sebastian-schlueter.com/blog/2017/3/10/optimum-resolution-sharpening-settings-for-epson-scanners
> 
> Ralf
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Re: Slide scanners

2023-05-01 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 01.05.23 um 17:42 schrieb Paul Stenquist:

I scan slides on my Epson V850 Pro flatbed scanner. ... The epson will scan 
them at 4900 dpi native, generating very nice hi-kres files.


You might as well scan at 2400 instead of 4800 and save a lot of time.

From the test report by filmscanner.info:

"In the scan our our USAF-test chart at 4800 ppi resolution (left
image), the horizontal lines of the elements 5.3 and the verical lines
of the element 5.5 can just be distinguished. According to our
resolution chart, this equals an effective resolution of about 2300 ppi."

https://www.filmscanner.info/en/EpsonPerfectionV850Pro.html

See also:
https://www.sebastian-schlueter.com/blog/2017/3/10/optimum-resolution-sharpening-settings-for-epson-scanners

Ralf

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Re: Slide scanners

2023-05-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
I scan slides on my Epson V850 Pro flatbed scanner. It has slide holders that 
position the slides correctly and hold about a dozen at a time. I find that 
automating slide scanning isn’t very efficient as exposures vary. I have the 
same storage as you: binders with slide holder pages. But i scan only the best 
and others as needed. Scanning all seems a formidable task, given that you’ll 
also have to render each scan to get an excellent result. The epson will scan 
them at 4900 dpi native, generating very nice hi-kres files.
Paul

> On May 1, 2023, at 11:11 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Good day, all,
> 
> I have 20-odd binders of 35mm slides in slide pages, plus some carousels.
> 
> It’s time to digitize these.
> 
> So, I’m looking for a scanner that can automatically feed and scan a stack of 
> slides. Any recommendations (or warnings)?
> 
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Slide scanners

2023-05-01 Thread Rick Womer
Good day, all,

I have 20-odd binders of 35mm slides in slide pages, plus some carousels.

It’s time to digitize these.

So, I’m looking for a scanner that can automatically feed and scan a stack of 
slides. Any recommendations (or warnings)?

Rick
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Digital Slide Scanners

2017-04-10 Thread Bipin Gupta
While working in the Middle East, circa 2007, we had an HP Scanner
that took slides or 35 mm negative roll film (6) #s at a time.

It had an ingenious double lid with the top one for film and the
bottom lid for the normal document or photo scan.

It had (2) separate scanning lights one inside the top lid and the
other one built into the scanner body.

The moment it finished a scan it would throw out (6) separate pictures
- a +ve picture from the 35 mm negative roll film.
Of course the picture from the slide film would be a perfect
representation of the slide.

You could do basic correction & enhancements before or after a scan.
What was surprising was the automatic cleaning up effect of dusty,
speckled & color damages of the slide or negative on the finished
output - like magic.

I am sorry I do not remember the model #, as we lost it along with all
our possessions including our brand new Subaru Legacy in a flash
flood. The villa was submerged with 7 feet of water measured from our
drive way. It was a national disaster. We just saved our lives.

Regards.
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Re: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The way I scan medium format now uses the Leica BEOON copy device. It is 
essentially a dedicated kit of extension tubes and a stand to take a Leica M 
body and lens, with masks and settings for 1:1, 1:1.5, 1:2, and 1:3 
reproduction ratio framings. With adapters, I fit my Leica SL body and 
Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.5 and use 1:3 for medium format film. I use a piece of 
thick glass mounted on a pair of wooden blocks to hold it over my flat panel 
light box, and made a negative guide/positioning jig for the stand by cutting 
and gluing together a few pieces of thick card stock. The 
negatives/transparencies lay absolutely flat, emulsion side down, on the glass; 
a 6x6 negative becomes a 16 Mpixel frame with the SL. 

The same thing could be done with a table top copy stand, a light box, and a 
mask to hold the negatives. The BEOON is simply a dedicated, compact table top 
copy stand. It cost me $250, an order of magnitude less than the Nikon Super 
Coolscan 9000 ED!

G

> On Apr 9, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:
> 
> It would be nice to come up with something for medium format that
> doesn't cost a terrible amount of money. Right now I'm thinking that a
> light table and a slab of anti-newtonian glass would be best.


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Re: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-09 Thread Zos Xavius
It would be nice to come up with something for medium format that
doesn't cost a terrible amount of money. Right now I'm thinking that a
light table and a slab of anti-newtonian glass would be best.

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 9:58 PM, Bill  wrote:
> On 4/9/2017 1:56 PM, Larry wrote:
>>
>> Which slide copier is that?
>
>
> I have the slide copier K. I suspect the Pentax ones are all pretty much the
> same.
> http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/misc/macro/auto_bellows_slide_copier.jpg
>
>
>
>>
>> On April 9, 2017 11:44:30 AM MST, Bill 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 4/7/2017 10:58 PM, Alan C wrote:

 A slide duplicator or bellows setup works well (easily & quickly) for
 35mm slides but is very problematic for negatives. A scanner would
>>>
>>> allow

 copying of other formats too. In the end, the limiting factor will be
 your budget.
>>>
>>>
>>> My Slide Copier K has a negative track in it. I can copy negatives
>>> faster than slides.
>>> A couple of weeks ago, I digitized just over 160 negs in about 45
>>> minutes.
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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-09 Thread Rob Studdert
I still have three scanners, LS8000 for roll film, V700 for generating
contact sheets, rough scans and 4x5+. For 35mm film stocks I use a
dedicated 35mm scanner which is optimised for the task, it's a Konica
Minolta DiMAGE Scan Elite 5400 II, it's the bee's knees, that said any
scanning is a PITA. If you throw good $$$ at a decent scanner it's
pretty easy to get similar money back when you're done, cheap rental
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>>On 7/4/17, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>>The 2012 MacBook Pro should have a Firewire 800 port & I found a SCSI to
>>>Firewire adapter at Amazon
>>>
>>>https://www.amazon.com/Systems-FR1SX-FireWire-Converter-IEEE1394/dp/
>>B6BANR
>>
>>WOW those FR1SX doodads are bloody expensive.
>
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Re: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-09 Thread Bill

On 4/9/2017 1:56 PM, Larry wrote:

Which slide copier is that?


I have the slide copier K. I suspect the Pentax ones are all pretty much 
the same.

http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/misc/macro/auto_bellows_slide_copier.jpg




On April 9, 2017 11:44:30 AM MST, Bill  wrote:

On 4/7/2017 10:58 PM, Alan C wrote:

A slide duplicator or bellows setup works well (easily & quickly) for
35mm slides but is very problematic for negatives. A scanner would

allow

copying of other formats too. In the end, the limiting factor will be
your budget.


My Slide Copier K has a negative track in it. I can copy negatives
faster than slides.
A couple of weeks ago, I digitized just over 160 negs in about 45
minutes.


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Re: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-09 Thread Larry
Which slide copier is that?

On April 9, 2017 11:44:30 AM MST, Bill  wrote:
>On 4/7/2017 10:58 PM, Alan C wrote:
>> A slide duplicator or bellows setup works well (easily & quickly) for
>> 35mm slides but is very problematic for negatives. A scanner would
>allow
>> copying of other formats too. In the end, the limiting factor will be
>> your budget.
>
>My Slide Copier K has a negative track in it. I can copy negatives 
>faster than slides.
>A couple of weeks ago, I digitized just over 160 negs in about 45
>minutes.
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Re: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-09 Thread Bill

On 4/7/2017 10:58 PM, Alan C wrote:

A slide duplicator or bellows setup works well (easily & quickly) for
35mm slides but is very problematic for negatives. A scanner would allow
copying of other formats too. In the end, the limiting factor will be
your budget.


My Slide Copier K has a negative track in it. I can copy negatives 
faster than slides.

A couple of weeks ago, I digitized just over 160 negs in about 45 minutes.


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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-09 Thread John Sessoms

Woah! I didn't even look at the price.

On 4/8/2017 14:12, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 7/4/17, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:


The 2012 MacBook Pro should have a Firewire 800 port & I found a SCSI to
Firewire adapter at Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Systems-FR1SX-FireWire-Converter-IEEE1394/dp/

B6BANR

WOW those FR1SX doodads are bloody expensive.


There may also be SCSI to USB or SCSI to Thunderbolt adapters that will
work.


I found this (link leads to eBay page)



Anyone know if this will do what i want ? Granted it will be slow



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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Steve Cottrell wrote:

>On 7/4/17, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>The 2012 MacBook Pro should have a Firewire 800 port & I found a SCSI to
>>Firewire adapter at Amazon
>>
>>https://www.amazon.com/Systems-FR1SX-FireWire-Converter-IEEE1394/dp/
>B6BANR
>
>WOW those FR1SX doodads are bloody expensive.

Not if you buy the one I'm not using any more...
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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-08 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/4/17, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

>The 2012 MacBook Pro should have a Firewire 800 port & I found a SCSI to
>Firewire adapter at Amazon
>
>https://www.amazon.com/Systems-FR1SX-FireWire-Converter-IEEE1394/dp/
B6BANR

WOW those FR1SX doodads are bloody expensive.

>There may also be SCSI to USB or SCSI to Thunderbolt adapters that will 
>work.

I found this (link leads to eBay page)



Anyone know if this will do what i want ? Granted it will be slow

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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-08 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/4/17, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

>It should work.
>
>According to Hamrick's website there's a VueScan version for Apple OS-X
>that supports the Nikon LS-1000
>
>https://www.hamrick.com/support/how-to-guides/how-to-install-vuescan-on-
>mac-os-x.html
>
>http://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/nikon_ls_1000.html#technical-information
>
>The 2012 MacBook Pro should have a Firewire 800 port & I found a SCSI to
>Firewire adapter at Amazon
>
>https://www.amazon.com/Systems-FR1SX-FireWire-Converter-IEEE1394/dp/
B6BANR
>
>There may also be SCSI to USB or SCSI to Thunderbolt adapters that will 
>work.

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Re: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I created customized camera calibration profiles for my Leica SL that do the 
correct inversion for both color and B&W negatives. they're now almost as easy 
to capture with the copy setup as slides. "Almost" because the inversion means 
the controls in the Lightroom develop module work reversed from their normal 
sense, which is surprisingly hard to manage. Best thing I've found to do is to 
get the image close and export into 16-bit TIFF (with automatic re-import into 
catalog), then do the finish editing on that master. 

Just scanned this Rolleiflex negative a couple of days ago using the SL on a 
Leica BEOON copy stand (set to 1:3 capture) and a Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/3.5:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2839/33067360834_0d56eccbfc_b.jpg

G

> On Apr 7, 2017, at 9:58 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> A slide duplicator or bellows setup works well (easily & quickly) for 35mm 
> slides but is very problematic for negatives. A scanner would allow copying 
> of other formats too. In the end, the limiting factor will be your budget.
> 
> Alan C


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Re: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread Alan C
A slide duplicator or bellows setup works well (easily & quickly) for 35mm 
slides but is very problematic for negatives. A scanner would allow copying 
of other formats too. In the end, the limiting factor will be your budget.


Alan C

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I picked up a Beseler slide copier from a lab that was closing down a number 
of years ago. That and the K1 give me a 35mp slide scanner that seems to 
work really well.



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Date: 04-07-2017  9:45 AM  (GMT-06:00)
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Subject: OT: Digital Slide scanners

I've been cleaning out my storage room in the basement, AKA The Camera
and Computer Museum, and have uncovered boxes and boxes of slides, some
of which are passable photos, and have become interested in maybe
scanning some of them. I've looked here and there at digital slide scanners.

So my query, if you haven't figured it out by now, is if any of you have
gone down this path, and whether you have found a decent scanner. I'd
appreciate any guidance.

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RE: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread John Coyle
I still have a ScanWit 720 scanner, but have been unable to find SCSI/USB 
linking cables for it, and
the original SCSI PCI card software will not install in later PC's.  It's now 
gathering dust in my
garage, waiting for me to think of a miracle solution!
OTOH, the Epson V500 does the same job really well, with either the Epson 
software or Vuescan.


John in Brisbane




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A long time ago, it seems, I bought an ACER ScanWit 2720s.  It's a SCSI 
interface device, and while
it's supplied software is hopelessly dated, there is third party software, 
(ViewScan), that will
actually give better scans, taking full advantage of the hardware, which the 
original software never
did.  It got very good reviews for it's output, and specifications equaled or 
bettered much more
expensive units, (when I bought it they were available new for approximately 
$300).  It produced a
9mp scans which I saved as TIFF files and corrected in Photoshop.

There are four notable drawbacks to it.

   It's limited to 35mm filmstrips or slides of 24x36mm mounted in standard 
mounts, you can scan
smaller but not larger so superslides are out thought I think 126 slides will 
work though the
software didn't support it, (110 format slides scanned well, but at a greatly 
reduced resolution of
course, I wish I had a few samples but all those scans disappeared in a hard 
drive crash).

  The slide and film carriers are made entirely out of plastic, and since 
the original
manufacturer sold out to BANQ the scanner, and it's bigger brother, 2047s which 
included digital
ICE, are long discontinued so parts including new carriers are made of 
unobtainable.

  Scanning speeds are oow, so bulk scanning is problematic, 
though how much of
that was due to the limitations of PC hardware at the time is a question, (I 
doubt that the scanner
has a particularly large or even any actual buffer built in.

  Finally reading the specifications, I'm not at all sure that it would 
actually outperform a
current Epson Perfection V550 or V600 which 
will scan up to 6x9cm slides and negatives.   So the effort to getting 
either ScanWit up and running on modern hardware on a modern OS may not be 
worth the effort,
especially as you'd actually have to find one, but if you're interested Amazon 
has on in their
warehouse used for only $127.00


On 4/7/2017 11:45 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:
> I've been cleaning out my storage room in the basement, AKA The Camera 
> and Computer Museum, and have uncovered boxes and boxes of slides, 
> some of which are passable photos, and have become interested in maybe 
> scanning some of them. I've looked here and there at digital slide 
> scanners.
>
> So my query, if you haven't figured it out by now, is if any of you 
> have gone down this path, and whether you have found a decent scanner.
> I'd appreciate any guidance.
>


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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread John Sessoms

I'm working my way through my own old film & a family archive. I don't
think it would be cost effective to send the work out because it's in so
many different forms.

I have 35mm slides & negatives of my own along with 120 transparencies &
negatives and 4x5 transparencies & negatives.

The family archive consists of 35mm plus 126/127 negatives along with a
few 8x10 negatives from when my grandmother had a studio back in the
1920s. I also have a lot of old prints (1940s through 1970s) for which I
have no negatives.

I'm using the Nikon CoolScan IV ED (LS-40) for all the 35mm & an Epson
V750-M Pro for the others.

I can go through a roll while sitting here at the computer doing other
things on-line.

A couple of problems I've run into & had to solve -

A lot of my old slides & negatives are survivors from Hurricane Fran and
REALLY nasty. The best tool I've found for cleaning them are flushable
baby wipes. If I need to I can scrub fairly hard without scratching the
film. And I don't have to take old Kodachrome out of paper mounts.

Once I have them clean I take my hair dryer and blow dry them on the
lowest setting. That seems to cause the surface of the emulsion to
smooth out. I try not to let the slide get too hot. Doesn't get all the
dirt off of them, but it gets them clean enough that VueScan's IR Clean
can handle it.

The other thing is I'm finding rolls of film that were never cut into
strips. They were rolled up inside film canisters & left for years. I
have a container of Kodak Photo-Flow mixed & I soak the coiled film in
it for a while & then hang it over the bathtub with weights to
straighten it out while it dries. I use the flushable baby wipes to
squeegee it & again blow dry it with a low setting on my hair dryer.

I found a Matin film cutter on Amazon that gives me a lot more precision
than I ever had when I was cutting strips with scissors.

I'm saving everything from VueScan as .DNG files (which I think are just
a wrapper around 16 bit Tiffs).

On 4/7/2017 16:04, Mark C wrote:

Depends on what you want to use the scans for. If you are digitizing a
family archive or plan to just use the scans for web use a V600 might be
fine. Or as others have suggested, use a service. If you are doing
higher end work I would look at a V800 or V850.

I'm using a Nikon LS8000 for 35mm and 120 scans. When it dies I plan to
go with an Epson 800 or 850. But - I only scan negatives these days (B&W
and color) - no slides. Slides are more demanding, though I expect that
the V800/850 could handle them fine. I don't know about the V600 and
slide film.

- Mark


On 4/7/2017 11:45 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:

I've been cleaning out my storage room in the basement, AKA The Camera
and Computer Museum, and have uncovered boxes and boxes of slides,
some of which are passable photos, and have become interested in maybe
scanning some of them. I've looked here and there at digital slide
scanners.

So my query, if you haven't figured it out by now, is if any of you
have gone down this path, and whether you have found a decent scanner.
I'd appreciate any guidance.






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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread John Sessoms

It should work.

According to Hamrick's website there's a VueScan version for Apple OS-X
that supports the Nikon LS-1000

https://www.hamrick.com/support/how-to-guides/how-to-install-vuescan-on-mac-os-x.html

http://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/nikon_ls_1000.html#technical-information

The 2012 MacBook Pro should have a Firewire 800 port & I found a SCSI to
Firewire adapter at Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Systems-FR1SX-FireWire-Converter-IEEE1394/dp/B6BANR

There may also be SCSI to USB or SCSI to Thunderbolt adapters that will 
work.


On 4/7/2017 18:49, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 7/4/17, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:


I bought a Nikon LS1000


I've got Nikon Coolscan LS1000 I would love to use it again - any
workarounds so I can hook it up to my MacBook Pro 2012

:-(



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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread Bruce Walker
On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
>
> And after I read your post, I thought maybe instead of scanning slides, it 
> might be more fun
> to secure a slide projector and have slide show night [...] I just may follow 
> my own advice here
> —secure a good working slide projector—and invite people over.

Good luck on finding a working slide projector. You could be forced to
scan the slides and use an LCD projector. I have two old Kodak
Carousels in the basement, neither working. The mechanisms get jammed
over time and become quite useless. Even the bulbs are getting scarce.

I'm thinking about that slide scanning service myself now.

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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Doug:

I own the Epson 600, but ironically I have used it way more for document scans 
than photos and slides.  I have tried some slide test scans, and I find the 
quality ok, not great.  I think the 600 is pretty decent for scanning print 
photos though.

But the real reason for my response is twofold:

1) If I had a slide and I wanted a print, I’d take the slide to a place that 
makes prints from the slide—like in the old days.  I don’t know that I’d want 
to fuss around with scanning a bunch of slides, and if I had to do a lot, I’d 
use a service, provided I had the money.

2) When I read your post, I thought of all my dad’s slides and the family slide 
projector and all the nights when the family sat around with popcorn viewing 
the slides.  That was a lot of fun.  And after I read your post, I thought 
maybe instead of scanning slides, it might be more fun to secure a slide 
projector and have slide show night—invite people over—family and friends—order 
a pizza—have some laughs and giggles.  And if folks want a print or two, start 
a list, nothing extensive, and use a service to make them a nice print. With my 
own dad’s passing, I just may follow my own advice here—secure a good working 
slide projector—and invite people over.

Cheers, Christine




> On Apr 7, 2017, at 10:45 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> 
> I've been cleaning out my storage room in the basement, AKA The Camera and 
> Computer Museum, and have uncovered boxes and boxes of slides, some of which 
> are passable photos, and have become interested in maybe scanning some of 
> them. I've looked here and there at digital slide scanners.
> 
> So my query, if you haven't figured it out by now, is if any of you have gone 
> down this path, and whether you have found a decent scanner. I'd appreciate 
> any guidance.
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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/4/17, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I bought a Nikon LS1000

I've got Nikon Coolscan LS1000 I would love to use it again - any
workarounds so I can hook it up to my MacBook Pro 2012

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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote:

>Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>
>> It is far more practical if you have several dozens or even hundreds of 
>> frames to scan is to wrap them up and send them off to someone like 
>> http://www.scancafe.com … They'll do as good a job as you will 90-98% of the 
>> time and whatever they charge is a FAR better use of your money and time 
>> than buying a scanner.
>>
>
>My grief with scancafe is that it costs twice as much to get tiffs as it 
>does to get jpegs.  Sure, I'm mostly interested in the quick scan to see 
>which photos are worth going deep and getting good scans, but it's no 
>more work to scan them as Tiff as jpeg.

Good point. (Though I'd be willing to pay the extra if the TIFFs are
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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread Larry Colen



Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:



I have been scanning film since the early 1990s and have had quite a few 
scanners, both negative and flatbed, over the years. Since about 2006, I've 
owned and used the Nikon Coolscan IV and Coolscan V extensively. Either of them 
with the automated 35mm feeder can scan a 6 frame strip very effectively in 
batch mode using VueScan.

But…

The process is *NEVER* fast. A thirty six exposure roll is an hour or two worth 
of work. A thirty six exposure roll of mounted slides is about four times that 
because you can only load them one at a time. Add time if you select 
individually which frames you want to scan, and if you want perfectly scanned, 
usable, balanced JPEGs to pop out of the scanner with no further editing 
required—lots of time.

It is far more practical if you have several dozens or even hundreds of frames 
to scan is to wrap them up and send them off to someone like 
http://www.scancafe.com … They'll do as good a job as you will 90-98% of the 
time and whatever they charge is a FAR better use of your money and time than 
buying a scanner.



My grief with scancafe is that it costs twice as much to get tiffs as it 
does to get jpegs.  Sure, I'm mostly interested in the quick scan to see 
which photos are worth going deep and getting good scans, but it's no 
more work to scan them as Tiff as jpeg.



Buy and use a scanner when you have specific things that you want to do with 
film photography that requires your personal control of the scanning process. 
Buy a scanning service when you want to convert an archive of older film images 
to digital in order that you can see them and share them.

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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread Marnie (aka Doe)
I have a lot of family slides from when I was kid. Stereorealist. So I 
figured someday when I am older and have more time, I would sit down and 
cut them in half and scan them. I can do about 8-12 at a time (don't 
remember) on the flat bed. It does do a good job and I wouldn't expect 
the highest quality (they didn't start as high quality anyway).


Of course, I am older now, and I find that now I don't actually have the 
time to do this. (Maybe when even older.)


OTOH, I am not sure these old family photos (many not of people but 
places we visited) are worth spending a chunk of change on either.


Marnie (aka Doe)

On 4/7/2017 9:10 AM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

I have a vast collection of my own and my father-in-law’s slides and negatives 
in 35mm and medium formats. Every few months I spend some time scanning, get 
bored, and move on to something else. At some point I will give up and send 
them off for someone else to do…

stan


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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
I’ve found the V850 Pro to be the equal of the Nikon Coolscans, which I’ve used 
many times. Some reviewers have as well. YMMV.
Paul

> On Apr 7, 2017, at 4:08 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Absolutely true, but no flatbed scanner produces the scan quality of a 
> dedicated film scanner. All of these things are tradeoffs at one level or 
> another. 
> 
> I have had four pro-grade flatbed scanners (including two Epsons, up to the 
> V750 model, and one with true glassless film carrier capabilities, can't 
> remember the name now). NONE produce the scan quality of the Nikon Coolscan V 
> or SuperCoolscan 9000. Film scanners are simply much better at this and 
> produce better results. That's why I still have the Nikons and all those 
> flatbeds are long gone.
> 
> Whether the results are good enough for your purposes … That's a different 
> matter and up to you to judge. 
> If it is, life is good… and you can still get new ones. They're certainly 
> good enough for a lot of purposes. :-)
> 
> G
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2017, at 12:06 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> With the Epson V850 Pro I can scan a dozen transparencies in about 20 
>> minutes, and I can load 24 at a time. It’s a pretty efficient way to go. 
>> 
>> Paul
>>> On Apr 7, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 7, 2017, at 8:57 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 07 April 2017 at 16:45 Doug Brewer  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've been cleaning out my storage room in the basement, AKA The Camera 
>>>>> and Computer Museum, and have uncovered boxes and boxes of slides, some 
>>>>> of which are passable photos, and have become interested in maybe 
>>>>> scanning some of them. I've looked here and there at digital slide 
>>>>> scanners.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So my query, if you haven't figured it out by now, is if any of you have 
>>>>> gone down this path, and whether you have found a decent scanner. I'd 
>>>>> appreciate any guidance.
>>>> 
>>>> My observation of this phenomenon over the past few years leads me to 
>>>> believe,
>>>> from other folks' scribblings, that the best way to do it is to pay someone
>>>> else.
>>> 
>>> I agree. 
>>> 
>>> I have been scanning film since the early 1990s and have had quite a few 
>>> scanners, both negative and flatbed, over the years. Since about 2006, I've 
>>> owned and used the Nikon Coolscan IV and Coolscan V extensively. Either of 
>>> them with the automated 35mm feeder can scan a 6 frame strip very 
>>> effectively in batch mode using VueScan. 
>>> 
>>> But…
>>> 
>>> The process is *NEVER* fast. A thirty six exposure roll is an hour or two 
>>> worth of work. A thirty six exposure roll of mounted slides is about four 
>>> times that because you can only load them one at a time. Add time if you 
>>> select individually which frames you want to scan, and if you want 
>>> perfectly scanned, usable, balanced JPEGs to pop out of the scanner with no 
>>> further editing required—lots of time. 
>>> 
>>> It is far more practical if you have several dozens or even hundreds of 
>>> frames to scan is to wrap them up and send them off to someone like 
>>> http://www.scancafe.com … They'll do as good a job as you will 90-98% of 
>>> the time and whatever they charge is a FAR better use of your money and 
>>> time than buying a scanner. 
>>> 
>>> Buy and use a scanner when you have specific things that you want to do 
>>> with film photography that requires your personal control of the scanning 
>>> process. Buy a scanning service when you want to convert an archive of 
>>> older film images to digital in order that you can see them and share them. 
>>> 
>>> G
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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Absolutely true, but no flatbed scanner produces the scan quality of a 
dedicated film scanner. All of these things are tradeoffs at one level or 
another. 

I have had four pro-grade flatbed scanners (including two Epsons, up to the 
V750 model, and one with true glassless film carrier capabilities, can't 
remember the name now). NONE produce the scan quality of the Nikon Coolscan V 
or SuperCoolscan 9000. Film scanners are simply much better at this and produce 
better results. That's why I still have the Nikons and all those flatbeds are 
long gone.

Whether the results are good enough for your purposes … That's a different 
matter and up to you to judge. 
If it is, life is good… and you can still get new ones. They're certainly good 
enough for a lot of purposes. :-)

G

> On Apr 7, 2017, at 12:06 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> With the Epson V850 Pro I can scan a dozen transparencies in about 20 
> minutes, and I can load 24 at a time. It’s a pretty efficient way to go. 
> 
> Paul
>> On Apr 7, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 7, 2017, at 8:57 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 07 April 2017 at 16:45 Doug Brewer  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I've been cleaning out my storage room in the basement, AKA The Camera 
>>>> and Computer Museum, and have uncovered boxes and boxes of slides, some 
>>>> of which are passable photos, and have become interested in maybe 
>>>> scanning some of them. I've looked here and there at digital slide 
>>>> scanners.
>>>> 
>>>> So my query, if you haven't figured it out by now, is if any of you have 
>>>> gone down this path, and whether you have found a decent scanner. I'd 
>>>> appreciate any guidance.
>>> 
>>> My observation of this phenomenon over the past few years leads me to 
>>> believe,
>>> from other folks' scribblings, that the best way to do it is to pay someone
>>> else.
>> 
>> I agree. 
>> 
>> I have been scanning film since the early 1990s and have had quite a few 
>> scanners, both negative and flatbed, over the years. Since about 2006, I've 
>> owned and used the Nikon Coolscan IV and Coolscan V extensively. Either of 
>> them with the automated 35mm feeder can scan a 6 frame strip very 
>> effectively in batch mode using VueScan. 
>> 
>> But…
>> 
>> The process is *NEVER* fast. A thirty six exposure roll is an hour or two 
>> worth of work. A thirty six exposure roll of mounted slides is about four 
>> times that because you can only load them one at a time. Add time if you 
>> select individually which frames you want to scan, and if you want perfectly 
>> scanned, usable, balanced JPEGs to pop out of the scanner with no further 
>> editing required—lots of time. 
>> 
>> It is far more practical if you have several dozens or even hundreds of 
>> frames to scan is to wrap them up and send them off to someone like 
>> http://www.scancafe.com … They'll do as good a job as you will 90-98% of the 
>> time and whatever they charge is a FAR better use of your money and time 
>> than buying a scanner. 
>> 
>> Buy and use a scanner when you have specific things that you want to do with 
>> film photography that requires your personal control of the scanning 
>> process. Buy a scanning service when you want to convert an archive of older 
>> film images to digital in order that you can see them and share them. 
>> 
>> G
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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread Mark C
The Nikonscan hack is pretty useful. About a year ago I retired my XP 
machine and installed Nikonscan on a Win 10 x64 box. The hack works fine 
on Win10 though I had to temporarily disable WIn10's requirement that 
all drivers be digitally signed. Vuescan is a great optionand I use it 
for 35mm scanning,  but on the LS8000, when using 120 film, aligning 
frames in Vuescan is a royal PITA. Nikon scan, as dated as it is, does 
automatically detect frames.



On 4/7/2017 1:58 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

I have a Nikon Coolscan IV ED.

It came with two heads; "MA-20 Slide Mount Adapter" for slides & "SA-20
Strip Film Adapter" for film strips. It also had an accessory "Strip
Film Holder FH-3" that allows you to scan strips of up to 6 frames using
the slide head.

The Nikon scan software hasn't been updated since Windoze XP, but
there's a hack out there that will allow it to work with Windows 7.
OTOH, VueScan supports that model & works just fine on Windows 7.

If you're going to buy a used one from eBay or Amazon, you want to make
sure it includes the FH-3, because buying an FH-3 separately will set
you back almost as much as the scanner itself.

I still use mine frequently as I slowly digitize the remnants of my old
film. I scanned "Memphis Belle" for the 20th Anniversary PUG from an old
Kodachrome slide.

On 4/7/2017 11:45, Doug Brewer wrote:

I've been cleaning out my storage room in the basement, AKA The Camera
and Computer Museum, and have uncovered boxes and boxes of slides, some
of which are passable photos, and have become interested in maybe
scanning some of them. I've looked here and there at digital slide
scanners.

So my query, if you haven't figured it out by now, is if any of you have
gone down this path, and whether you have found a decent scanner. I'd
appreciate any guidance.






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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread Mark C
Depends on what you want to use the scans for. If you are digitizing a 
family archive or plan to just use the scans for web use a V600 might be 
fine. Or as others have suggested, use a service. If you are doing 
higher end work I would look at a V800 or V850.


I'm using a Nikon LS8000 for 35mm and 120 scans. When it dies I plan to 
go with an Epson 800 or 850. But - I only scan negatives these days (B&W 
and color) - no slides. Slides are more demanding, though I expect that 
the V800/850 could handle them fine. I don't know about the V600 and 
slide film.


- Mark


On 4/7/2017 11:45 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:
I've been cleaning out my storage room in the basement, AKA The Camera 
and Computer Museum, and have uncovered boxes and boxes of slides, 
some of which are passable photos, and have become interested in maybe 
scanning some of them. I've looked here and there at digital slide 
scanners.


So my query, if you haven't figured it out by now, is if any of you 
have gone down this path, and whether you have found a decent scanner. 
I'd appreciate any guidance.





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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
With the Epson V850 Pro I can scan a dozen transparencies in about 20 minutes, 
and I can load 24 at a time. It’s a pretty efficient way to go. 

Paul

> On Apr 7, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2017, at 8:57 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 07 April 2017 at 16:45 Doug Brewer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I've been cleaning out my storage room in the basement, AKA The Camera 
>>> and Computer Museum, and have uncovered boxes and boxes of slides, some 
>>> of which are passable photos, and have become interested in maybe 
>>> scanning some of them. I've looked here and there at digital slide scanners.
>>> 
>>> So my query, if you haven't figured it out by now, is if any of you have 
>>> gone down this path, and whether you have found a decent scanner. I'd 
>>> appreciate any guidance.
>> 
>> My observation of this phenomenon over the past few years leads me to 
>> believe,
>> from other folks' scribblings, that the best way to do it is to pay someone
>> else.
> 
> I agree. 
> 
> I have been scanning film since the early 1990s and have had quite a few 
> scanners, both negative and flatbed, over the years. Since about 2006, I've 
> owned and used the Nikon Coolscan IV and Coolscan V extensively. Either of 
> them with the automated 35mm feeder can scan a 6 frame strip very effectively 
> in batch mode using VueScan. 
> 
> But…
> 
> The process is *NEVER* fast. A thirty six exposure roll is an hour or two 
> worth of work. A thirty six exposure roll of mounted slides is about four 
> times that because you can only load them one at a time. Add time if you 
> select individually which frames you want to scan, and if you want perfectly 
> scanned, usable, balanced JPEGs to pop out of the scanner with no further 
> editing required—lots of time. 
> 
> It is far more practical if you have several dozens or even hundreds of 
> frames to scan is to wrap them up and send them off to someone like 
> http://www.scancafe.com … They'll do as good a job as you will 90-98% of the 
> time and whatever they charge is a FAR better use of your money and time than 
> buying a scanner. 
> 
> Buy and use a scanner when you have specific things that you want to do with 
> film photography that requires your personal control of the scanning process. 
> Buy a scanning service when you want to convert an archive of older film 
> images to digital in order that you can see them and share them. 
> 
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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
With the Epson V850 Pro I can scan a dozen transparencies in about 20 minutes, 
and I can load 24 at a time. It’s a pretty efficient way to go. 

Paul
> On Apr 7, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2017, at 8:57 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 07 April 2017 at 16:45 Doug Brewer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I've been cleaning out my storage room in the basement, AKA The Camera 
>>> and Computer Museum, and have uncovered boxes and boxes of slides, some 
>>> of which are passable photos, and have become interested in maybe 
>>> scanning some of them. I've looked here and there at digital slide scanners.
>>> 
>>> So my query, if you haven't figured it out by now, is if any of you have 
>>> gone down this path, and whether you have found a decent scanner. I'd 
>>> appreciate any guidance.
>> 
>> My observation of this phenomenon over the past few years leads me to 
>> believe,
>> from other folks' scribblings, that the best way to do it is to pay someone
>> else.
> 
> I agree. 
> 
> I have been scanning film since the early 1990s and have had quite a few 
> scanners, both negative and flatbed, over the years. Since about 2006, I've 
> owned and used the Nikon Coolscan IV and Coolscan V extensively. Either of 
> them with the automated 35mm feeder can scan a 6 frame strip very effectively 
> in batch mode using VueScan. 
> 
> But…
> 
> The process is *NEVER* fast. A thirty six exposure roll is an hour or two 
> worth of work. A thirty six exposure roll of mounted slides is about four 
> times that because you can only load them one at a time. Add time if you 
> select individually which frames you want to scan, and if you want perfectly 
> scanned, usable, balanced JPEGs to pop out of the scanner with no further 
> editing required—lots of time. 
> 
> It is far more practical if you have several dozens or even hundreds of 
> frames to scan is to wrap them up and send them off to someone like 
> http://www.scancafe.com … They'll do as good a job as you will 90-98% of the 
> time and whatever they charge is a FAR better use of your money and time than 
> buying a scanner. 
> 
> Buy and use a scanner when you have specific things that you want to do with 
> film photography that requires your personal control of the scanning process. 
> Buy a scanning service when you want to convert an archive of older film 
> images to digital in order that you can see them and share them. 
> 
> G
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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

> On Apr 7, 2017, at 8:57 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
>> On 07 April 2017 at 16:45 Doug Brewer  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I've been cleaning out my storage room in the basement, AKA The Camera 
>> and Computer Museum, and have uncovered boxes and boxes of slides, some 
>> of which are passable photos, and have become interested in maybe 
>> scanning some of them. I've looked here and there at digital slide scanners.
>> 
>> So my query, if you haven't figured it out by now, is if any of you have 
>> gone down this path, and whether you have found a decent scanner. I'd 
>> appreciate any guidance.
> 
> My observation of this phenomenon over the past few years leads me to believe,
> from other folks' scribblings, that the best way to do it is to pay someone
> else.

I agree. 

I have been scanning film since the early 1990s and have had quite a few 
scanners, both negative and flatbed, over the years. Since about 2006, I've 
owned and used the Nikon Coolscan IV and Coolscan V extensively. Either of them 
with the automated 35mm feeder can scan a 6 frame strip very effectively in 
batch mode using VueScan. 

But…

The process is *NEVER* fast. A thirty six exposure roll is an hour or two worth 
of work. A thirty six exposure roll of mounted slides is about four times that 
because you can only load them one at a time. Add time if you select 
individually which frames you want to scan, and if you want perfectly scanned, 
usable, balanced JPEGs to pop out of the scanner with no further editing 
required—lots of time. 

It is far more practical if you have several dozens or even hundreds of frames 
to scan is to wrap them up and send them off to someone like 
http://www.scancafe.com … They'll do as good a job as you will 90-98% of the 
time and whatever they charge is a FAR better use of your money and time than 
buying a scanner. 

Buy and use a scanner when you have specific things that you want to do with 
film photography that requires your personal control of the scanning process. 
Buy a scanning service when you want to convert an archive of older film images 
to digital in order that you can see them and share them. 

G
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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread John Sessoms

I have a Nikon Coolscan IV ED.

It came with two heads; "MA-20 Slide Mount Adapter" for slides & "SA-20
Strip Film Adapter" for film strips. It also had an accessory "Strip
Film Holder FH-3" that allows you to scan strips of up to 6 frames using
the slide head.

The Nikon scan software hasn't been updated since Windoze XP, but
there's a hack out there that will allow it to work with Windows 7.
OTOH, VueScan supports that model & works just fine on Windows 7.

If you're going to buy a used one from eBay or Amazon, you want to make
sure it includes the FH-3, because buying an FH-3 separately will set
you back almost as much as the scanner itself.

I still use mine frequently as I slowly digitize the remnants of my old
film. I scanned "Memphis Belle" for the 20th Anniversary PUG from an old
Kodachrome slide.

On 4/7/2017 11:45, Doug Brewer wrote:

I've been cleaning out my storage room in the basement, AKA The Camera
and Computer Museum, and have uncovered boxes and boxes of slides, some
of which are passable photos, and have become interested in maybe
scanning some of them. I've looked here and there at digital slide
scanners.

So my query, if you haven't figured it out by now, is if any of you have
gone down this path, and whether you have found a decent scanner. I'd
appreciate any guidance.



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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread anotherdrunkensot


I picked up a Beseler slide copier from a lab that was closing down a number of 
years ago. That and the K1 give me a 35mp slide scanner that seems to work 
really well.


Sent from my Samsung device

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Date: 04-07-2017  9:45 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
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Subject: OT: Digital Slide scanners 

I've been cleaning out my storage room in the basement, AKA The Camera 
and Computer Museum, and have uncovered boxes and boxes of slides, some 
of which are passable photos, and have become interested in maybe 
scanning some of them. I've looked here and there at digital slide scanners.

So my query, if you haven't figured it out by now, is if any of you have 
gone down this path, and whether you have found a decent scanner. I'd 
appreciate any guidance.

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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread Bob W-PDML
This is why God gave us other people. I bought a Nikon LS1000? 4000? When they 
were quite new. Used it about a dozen times. It was such a balls-ache. Good 
quality though.

B

> On 7 Apr 2017, at 16:46, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> 
> I've been cleaning out my storage room in the basement, AKA The Camera and 
> Computer Museum, and have uncovered boxes and boxes of slides, some of which 
> are passable photos, and have become interested in maybe scanning some of 
> them. I've looked here and there at digital slide scanners.
> 
> So my query, if you haven't figured it out by now, is if any of you have gone 
> down this path, and whether you have found a decent scanner. I'd appreciate 
> any guidance.
> 
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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread P. J. Alling
A long time ago, it seems, I bought an ACER ScanWit 2720s.  It's a SCSI 
interface device, and while it's supplied software is hopelessly dated, 
there is third party software, (ViewScan), that will actually give 
better scans, taking full advantage of the hardware, which the original 
software never did.  It got very good reviews for it's output, and 
specifications equaled or bettered much more expensive units, (when I 
bought it they were available new for approximately $300).  It produced 
a 9mp scans which I saved as TIFF files and corrected in Photoshop.


There are four notable drawbacks to it.

  It's limited to 35mm filmstrips or slides of 24x36mm mounted in 
standard mounts, you can scan smaller but not larger so superslides are 
out thought I think 126 slides will work though the software didn't 
support it, (110 format slides scanned well, but at a greatly reduced 
resolution of course, I wish I had a few samples but all those scans 
disappeared in a hard drive crash).


 The slide and film carriers are made entirely out of plastic, and 
since the original manufacturer sold out to BANQ the scanner, and it's 
bigger brother, 2047s which included digital ICE, are long discontinued 
so parts including new carriers are made of unobtainable.


 Scanning speeds are oow, so bulk scanning is 
problematic, though how much of that was due to the limitations of PC 
hardware at the time is a question, (I doubt that the scanner has a 
particularly large or even any actual buffer built in.


 Finally reading the specifications, I'm not at all sure that it 
would actually outperform a current Epson Perfection V550 or V600 which 
will scan up to 6x9cm slides and negatives.   So the effort to getting 
either ScanWit up and running on modern hardware on a modern OS may not 
be worth the effort, especially as you'd actually have to find one, but 
if you're interested Amazon has on in their warehouse used for only $127.00



On 4/7/2017 11:45 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:
I've been cleaning out my storage room in the basement, AKA The Camera 
and Computer Museum, and have uncovered boxes and boxes of slides, 
some of which are passable photos, and have become interested in maybe 
scanning some of them. I've looked here and there at digital slide 
scanners.


So my query, if you haven't figured it out by now, is if any of you 
have gone down this path, and whether you have found a decent scanner. 
I'd appreciate any guidance.





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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
The Epson V850 Pro does an excellent job on transparencies and negatives. All 
the color shots on this page were scanned from Kodachrome slides and all the BW 
was scanned from negs. 
https://www.photo.net/gallery/1080368#//Sort-Newest/All-Categories/All-Time/Page-1

> On Apr 7, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> 
> I've been cleaning out my storage room in the basement, AKA The Camera and 
> Computer Museum, and have uncovered boxes and boxes of slides, some of which 
> are passable photos, and have become interested in maybe scanning some of 
> them. I've looked here and there at digital slide scanners.
> 
> So my query, if you haven't figured it out by now, is if any of you have gone 
> down this path, and whether you have found a decent scanner. I'd appreciate 
> any guidance.
> 
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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Doug Brewer wrote:

>I've been cleaning out my storage room in the basement, AKA The Camera 
>and Computer Museum, and have uncovered boxes and boxes of slides, some 
>of which are passable photos, and have become interested in maybe 
>scanning some of them. I've looked here and there at digital slide scanners.
>
>So my query, if you haven't figured it out by now, is if any of you have 
>gone down this path, and whether you have found a decent scanner. I'd 
>appreciate any guidance.

I picked up a Minolta "Scan Dual IV" on eBay a few months ago. Less
than a hundred bucks.
 
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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread Marnie (aka Doe)
No help. Except I have a lot of slides too. I still have an Epson 
flatbed slide scanner which I saved if I ever get around to my piles of 
slides. (When I first started photography I quickly switched from 
regular film and shot slide film instead.)


It does an amazingly good job, frankly. The only problem is dust. A 
microfiber cloth helps. And if the dust is kept low enough, then it's 
not too big a job to clean up the remainder in post processing. And it's 
a lot cheaper than a big slide machine. Also I am sure some of the newer 
Epson flat bed scanners are even better than mine.


But I am pretty sure that is not what you are looking for.

Marnie (aka Doe)

On 4/7/2017 8:45 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:

I've been cleaning out my storage room in the basement, AKA The Camera
and Computer Museum, and have uncovered boxes and boxes of slides, some
of which are passable photos, and have become interested in maybe
scanning some of them. I've looked here and there at digital slide
scanners.

So my query, if you haven't figured it out by now, is if any of you have
gone down this path, and whether you have found a decent scanner. I'd
appreciate any guidance.


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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread Stanley Halpin
I (and others on the PDML) have had some success with the Epson V600 Photos 
flatbed scanner. Or similar. Workflow is decent, not limited to 35mm, useful if 
you have any 645 or 6x6 or 6x7 negatives or slides, also useful for scanning 
photos and other paper.

There are also a couple of scanning services. It has been 10 years since I last 
did this, but I boxed my slides, sent them someplace in the U.S. The company 
sent them on to India. Thumbnails of the images were uploaded, I could deselect 
those that didn’t look good. They then did color balance etc on the keepers, 
sent it all back to me with the scanned images on a CD. IIRC, it was $.40-.50 
per slide, (just charged  for the keepers) cheaper than buying a good scanner 
if this is a one-time thing with relatively few slides. Also far less time 
consuming! 

I have a vast collection of my own and my father-in-law’s slides and negatives 
in 35mm and medium formats. Every few months I spend some time scanning, get 
bored, and move on to something else. At some point I will give up and send 
them off for someone else to do…

stan

> On Apr 7, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> 
> I've been cleaning out my storage room in the basement, AKA The Camera and 
> Computer Museum, and have uncovered boxes and boxes of slides, some of which 
> are passable photos, and have become interested in maybe scanning some of 
> them. I've looked here and there at digital slide scanners.
> 
> So my query, if you haven't figured it out by now, is if any of you have gone 
> down this path, and whether you have found a decent scanner. I'd appreciate 
> any guidance.
> 
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Re: OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread mike wilson
> On 07 April 2017 at 16:45 Doug Brewer  wrote:
> 
> 
> I've been cleaning out my storage room in the basement, AKA The Camera 
> and Computer Museum, and have uncovered boxes and boxes of slides, some 
> of which are passable photos, and have become interested in maybe 
> scanning some of them. I've looked here and there at digital slide scanners.
> 
> So my query, if you haven't figured it out by now, is if any of you have 
> gone down this path, and whether you have found a decent scanner. I'd 
> appreciate any guidance.

My observation of this phenomenon over the past few years leads me to believe,
from other folks' scribblings, that the best way to do it is to pay someone
else.

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OT: Digital Slide scanners

2017-04-07 Thread Doug Brewer
I've been cleaning out my storage room in the basement, AKA The Camera 
and Computer Museum, and have uncovered boxes and boxes of slides, some 
of which are passable photos, and have become interested in maybe 
scanning some of them. I've looked here and there at digital slide scanners.


So my query, if you haven't figured it out by now, is if any of you have 
gone down this path, and whether you have found a decent scanner. I'd 
appreciate any guidance.


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slide scanners

2002-03-27 Thread Piet Smit

has anyone tried this slide scanner ??? 

http://ww1.microtek.com/Europe-E/Web/Product.php?
ThisPage=Scanners&Product=Detail&P_Id=67


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