Re: ZX-L and Pentax Metering
If one brings his or her right thumb up along side the viewfinder of the ZX-5n while shooting it helps one see the exposure info much more clearly. The 5n is a great camera, I would recommend it without hesitation. DG At 04:43 PM 5/6/02 -0600, you wrote: Nitin is right. I forgot that the 5n also has center-weighted and spot metering. I'm very anxious to see a 5n replacement. As it is, I can't recommend the camera (as I've noted here several times). In bright sunlight (most of my shooting) one can't see the exposure information in the viewfinder, and it's not duplicated on the external lcd. The 5n replacement will presumably fix this problem, and probably add some other goodies, like pentax functions. I'm looking forward to seeing it. I hope they put aperture priority on the body. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZX-L and Pentax Metering
Nitin is right. I forgot that the 5n also has center-weighted and spot metering. I'm very anxious to see a 5n replacement. As it is, I can't recommend the camera (as I've noted here several times). In bright sunlight (most of my shooting) one can't see the exposure information in the viewfinder, and it's not duplicated on the external lcd. The 5n replacement will presumably fix this problem, and probably add some other goodies, like pentax functions. I'm looking forward to seeing it. I hope they put aperture priority on the body. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
ZX-L and Pentax Metering
Shutterbug describes the ZX-L as a 5n replacement. Peterson's reviews it in their current issue and calls it a ZX-7 replacement. Huh? Of course, it comes only with program metering. No center-weighted or spot. Peterson's, who never say anything bad about a product, noted that their review ZX-L tends slightly to overexpose slide film. On a hopeful note they said that they had a pre-production model, and maybe the production models would get it right. It sounds to me like the continuing overexposure problem that has plagued Pentax's program metering for slide film. I'd like to be able to recommend Pentax to others. But the MZ-S is the only model now in production that includes other metering modes. How can I recommend Pentax to those who want a moderately-priced body knowing that, when the person eventually tries some slide film, the meter will overexpose? Why won't Pentax fix this? I always use the PZ-1p and MZ-S on center-weighted, and almost never get a badly exposed shot. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZX-L and Pentax Metering
On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 02:43:51PM -0600, Joseph Tainter wrote: Shutterbug describes the ZX-L as a 5n replacement. Peterson's reviews it in their current issue and calls it a ZX-7 replacement. Huh? Of course, it comes only with program metering. No center-weighted or spot. This has been said before and everytime somebody corrected it to the contrary. It has both center and spot. I'd like to be able to recommend Pentax to others. But the MZ-S is the only model now in production that includes other metering modes. How can 5n has center and spot too no ? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZX-L and Pentax Metering
The MZ-6 (ZX-6/ZX-L) is a replacement for the MZ-7, just as the MZ-60 is a replacement for the MZ-30 (btw, does anyone know if the MZ-60 adds the aperture coupling required to properly use non-FA lenses?) The MZ-5n and MZ-3 are still being produced, and feature centre-weighted and spot metering. As the MZ-3 is not available in the US, that leaves you with a choice between the ZX-5n and MZ-S. I suspect that there may be a replacement for the 5n coming soon, as it's now the oldest model in the range. To my mind, the MZ-6 is not that replacement, though... -- Kristian On Sunday, May 5, 2002, at 09:43 pm, Joseph Tainter wrote: Shutterbug describes the ZX-L as a 5n replacement. Peterson's reviews it in their current issue and calls it a ZX-7 replacement. Huh? Of course, it comes only with program metering. No center-weighted or spot. Peterson's, who never say anything bad about a product, noted that their review ZX-L tends slightly to overexpose slide film. On a hopeful note they said that they had a pre-production model, and maybe the production models would get it right. It sounds to me like the continuing overexposure problem that has plagued Pentax's program metering for slide film. I'd like to be able to recommend Pentax to others. But the MZ-S is the only model now in production that includes other metering modes. How can I recommend Pentax to those who want a moderately-priced body knowing that, when the person eventually tries some slide film, the meter will overexpose? Why won't Pentax fix this? I always use the PZ-1p and MZ-S on center-weighted, and almost never get a badly exposed shot. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZX-L and Pentax Metering
Joseph Tainter wrote: I'd like to be able to recommend Pentax to others. But the MZ-S is the only model now in production that includes other metering modes. How can I recommend Pentax to those who want a moderately priced body knowing that, when the person eventually tries some slide film, the meter will overexpose? My Humble Opinion : These days, for color, the predominant emulsion is C-41 due to the proliferation of minilabs on every streetcorner. The days of the discriminating amatuer using E-6 in substantial numbers are long gone. One is hard-pressed to even find on-spot E-6 processing except in major metropolitan centers' pro labs nowadays. Pentax has merely moved w/ the times and set the default metering sensitvities toward what the masses are using. Any serious slide shooter will zero-in their metering anyway and use the tried true ASA adjustment method to bring the auto-metering into compliance w/ their tastes - or at least one would hope they would know to do this should initial results from the factory be lacking. Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: ZX-L and Pentax Metering
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nitin Garg Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 2:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ZX-L and Pentax Metering On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 02:43:51PM -0600, Joseph Tainter wrote: Shutterbug describes the ZX-L as a 5n replacement. Peterson's reviews it in their current issue and calls it a ZX-7 replacement. Huh? Of course, it comes only with program metering. No center-weighted or spot. This has been said before and everytime somebody corrected it to the contrary. It has both center and spot. Well, I've read the manual and it appears that the ZX-L can have multi-segment or spot metering. Worse off, it can only be switched by using the customed function to program the AE lock. This means that when I use AE lock, I can only have multi-segment or spot. Also, there seems to be no way to switch to center-weighted metering unless I use a non FA, F, or A lens, i.e. older M and K lenses! This is bad news for an old center-weighted timer like me :-(. Umm, another control taken away from the user. I suppose the tyro doesn't use or need the various metering modes :-(. I just check the ZX-7 user manual and it appears that there is no metering modes selection at all. Fortunatley, the ZX-5n (and MZ-3?) has all three metering modes, as well as the MZ-S and the good old PZ-1p ;-). Please correct me if I'm wrong. Ron B[ee] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: ZX-L and Pentax Metering
On Sun, 5 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I guess we'll know which one it replaces when we see which one they discontinue first. It's official - ZX-L/MZ-L/MZ-6 is a replacement for ZX-7/MZ-7. In Japanese Pentax web site, MZ-7 is no longer listed - i.e. it has been discontinued. http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/product/camera/index.html -- --Lawrence Kwan--SMS Info Service/Ringtone Convertor--PGP:finger/www-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence/ -Key ID:0x6D23F3C4-- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .