RE: Peso - 'Carp River'

[Malcolm Smith]

Ken Waller wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18293422

Wow! What colours. Great view.

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RE: Getting in touch with my inner lesbian

[Malcolm Smith]

Larry Colen wrote:

I bought a new toy yesterday, took a few snapshots on my way home from
brekkies today.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157673495755641


One of my friends has had one which he's put 100,000 miles on with no major
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RE: October PUG - UP - is Up!

[Malcolm Smith]

Brian Walters wrote:

> I struggled to find a suitable image for this one, and 'Iconic Places' 
> is going to be another.
Really?  I though this theme would be an easy one!

Of course I found a few suitable - yesterday!

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RE: October PUG - UP - is Up!

[Malcolm Smith]

Adam Montoya wrote:

I didn't know what to post, so I followed the theme to the letter.

Good interpretation and more original than my offering. 

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Re: Getting in touch with my inner lesbian

[Jostein Øksne]

You manly guys...
Jostein 

Den 4. oktober 2016 03.51.27 CEST, skrev Steve Cottrell :
>On 3/10/16, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Looks good! I'm not going anywhere near that inner Lesbian stuff.
>
>I'll be stood behind Paul.

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PESO: Willow Street Cat

[Malcolm Smith]

Cats seem to catch my eye whilst out and about. This from a local road.

 

  http://flic.kr/p/MPhkrh

 

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Re: PESO: Willow Street Cat

[Alan C]

Well, it certainly has good taste in cars.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Malcolm Smith

Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 9:21 AM
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Subject: PESO: Willow Street Cat

Cats seem to catch my eye whilst out and about. This from a local road.



 http://flic.kr/p/MPhkrh



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Re: Peso - 'Carp River'

[Larry Colen]

Ken Waller wrote:

Captured on film awhile back, probably with a PZ1-P and 70-210 f4-5.6
SMC Pentax F.

This scene is in the Porcupine State Park in the Western part of the
Upper Peninsula of Michigan.

Comments appreciated.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18293422


Of course they are, they'll all be positive.

Excellent shot



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Re: Test image: Out In The Field Take 2

[Larry Colen]

Malcolm Smith wrote:

Larry Colen wrote:

That's a real chestnut!

Very much so.

Test link 2: http://flic.kr/p/MEp6SQ


You're still keeping the critics at bay.

Another nice shot.



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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

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On Tue, Oct 4, 2016, at 06:16 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote:
> Brian Walters wrote:
> 
> > I struggled to find a suitable image for this one, and 'Iconic Places' 
> > is going to be another.
> Really?  I though this theme would be an easy one!
> 
> Of course I found a few suitable - yesterday!


Actually, I was referring to Iconic Places...


Cheers

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Re: Peso - 'Carp River'

[Brian Walters]

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016, at 03:35 PM, Alan C wrote:
> Quite stunning, Ken. We never see anything like that around here.


Not here, either.

Great shot, both colours and composition



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> 
> Alan C
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Ken Waller
> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 8:59 PM
> To: pentax list
> Subject: Peso - 'Carp River'
> 
> Captured on film awhile back, probably with a PZ1-P and 70-210 f4-5.6 SMC
> Pentax F.
> 
> This scene is in the Porcupine State Park in the Western part of the
> Upper
> Peninsula of Michigan.
> 
> Comments appreciated.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18293422
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> 
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Re: OT Android ??

[David J Brooks]

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Bill  wrote:
> On 10/3/2016 9:55 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>> Looking at ways to get my iTunes songs onto my Galaxy Prime Grand.
>> Seems its not as easy as 1-2-3. Keepvid seems a good one, any one else
>> have any suggestions.
>>
>> I tunes from iMac OSX 10.6.8
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
> I used iTunes for Android to get my podcasts of the vinyl cafe and under the
> influence onto my phone. I don't know if that would work for music though.
> I do know that getting an iPad has been like being invaded by the Borg.

I do have my music on my iPad and carry that with me on my cardio
walks, but would like to get some music on the smaller phone for what
ever reasons. Just trying to avoid adding programs to download which
there seems to be a lot of out there.

Dave
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RE: October PUG - UP - is Up!

[Malcolm Smith]

Brian Walters wrote:

Actually, I was referring to Iconic Places...

Bigger problem if anything. I think I have one that fits the bill - just. My
current project is taking pictures of country lanes that I photographed 12
years ago, a sort of then and now. Otherwise for 'iconic'. It's a look
through slides I took years ago.

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Re: Peso - 'Carp River'

[Jack Davis]

What Brian said!

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2016, at 3:36 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016, at 03:35 PM, Alan C wrote:
>> Quite stunning, Ken. We never see anything like that around here.
> 
> 
> Not here, either.
> 
> Great shot, both colours and composition
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
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>> 
>> Alan C
>> 
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Ken Waller
>> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 8:59 PM
>> To: pentax list
>> Subject: Peso - 'Carp River'
>> 
>> Captured on film awhile back, probably with a PZ1-P and 70-210 f4-5.6 SMC
>> Pentax F.
>> 
>> This scene is in the Porcupine State Park in the Western part of the
>> Upper
>> Peninsula of Michigan.
>> 
>> Comments appreciated.
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18293422
>> 
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>> 
>> 
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Re: The Camera Store uses destroys a camera to make survival fishing gear.

[Igor PDML-StR]

HAR! on both accounts.

Note for myself: when planning on getting lost in the woods, do not 
forget to drag all your camera gear with you!


Igor


P.J. Alling Mon, 03 Oct 2016 19:15:07 -0700 wrote:

Damn, that subject line is garbled. I should really read these things 
before I hit send.



On 10/3/2016 10:09 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

On topic because it's a Pentax...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qInq0PN3Z1s



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Re: The Camera Store uses destroys a camera to make survival fishing gear.

[Jostein]

So... How come he starts off by smashing a camera and a UV filter using 
a _neatly_ sawed piece of wood, eh?

No MacGyver points for that guy.
Jostein

Den 04.10.2016 04.09, skrev P.J. Alling:

On topic because it's a Pentax...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qInq0PN3Z1s



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Re: Markham Fair

[Bob Sullivan]

Congrats Dave!  Well deserved.
The horses look very serious & powerful.
Regards,  Bob S.

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>
> This past weekend was the annual Markham fair, the one i submit
> pictures to for their photo contests. This year was a dismal year for
> me for photos, did not get out a lot but i did manage a few venues,
> one of which was the annual plow demo using horse drawn equipment. I
> submitted 6 photos and won a first and two thirds, One of my B&W's won
> best in class, something i have been striving for for the past 16
> years. I got a nice ribbon and a plaque as well
>
> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2016-Lewis-farm/album/slides/DSCF0705.html
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> I'm quite thrilled by this.
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Re: Markham Fair

[Gonz]

I like that.  Takes you back to simpler days.  The feeling of power
and motion is ever-present.


On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Congrats Dave!  Well deserved.
> The horses look very serious & powerful.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 6:43 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> Morning all.
>>
>> This past weekend was the annual Markham fair, the one i submit
>> pictures to for their photo contests. This year was a dismal year for
>> me for photos, did not get out a lot but i did manage a few venues,
>> one of which was the annual plow demo using horse drawn equipment. I
>> submitted 6 photos and won a first and two thirds, One of my B&W's won
>> best in class, something i have been striving for for the past 16
>> years. I got a nice ribbon and a plaque as well
>>
>> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2016-Lewis-farm/album/slides/DSCF0705.html
>>
>> I'm quite thrilled by this.
>>
>> Dave
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Re: PESO Statue

[Gonz]

Thanks for looking guys.  :)


On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> The touristy areas of Europe are heavily infested with these. I've
> never been impressed, except with the intensity of the performers (?)
> masochism.
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> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 8:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  
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>> Not a very attractive "statue"
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 10:11 PM, Gonz  wrote:
>>
>>> Taken while touring Boston a while ago.  She stood there motionless
>>> made up to look like a metal statue.  Donation tin at her feet.
>>>
>>> https://flic.kr/p/LKhB9P
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The Camera Store Destroys A Camera To Make Survival Fishing Gear

[Bipin Gupta]

That Camera Store Owner and that Chap in the video should be sent to
the ISIS in Syria for a Grand Beheading, just like what he did to
those poor cameras. I am certain that stupid guy was neither a
Photographer nor a Fisherman - rather a psychopath of some kind.

And good Lord one was a Pentax!! Wondering what would be the reaction
from a Nikonian Chap??

That was the silliest video I have seen. You bet I did not LAFF at it
and it did not even make a good JOAK.

Fxxk those guys too before beheading by the ISIS.

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Re: The Camera Store Destroys A Camera To Make Survival Fishing Gear

[P.J. Alling]

Yea, you can tell it's a Pentax  when you see the closeup of the "parts" 
the lens mount is unmistakable, no other manufacture uses that mount, 
they don't actually show you the camera because...  OK, it could be an 
old Ricoh, film camera, but I think it was specifically digital, so I'm 
assuming it was an old trade in.  Maybe they didn't use a similarly 
ancient Canon or Nikon because the interior parts weren't as sturdy, or 
maybe they just decided on resale value.


On 10/4/2016 12:33 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote:

That Camera Store Owner and that Chap in the video should be sent to
the ISIS in Syria for a Grand Beheading, just like what he did to
those poor cameras. I am certain that stupid guy was neither a
Photographer nor a Fisherman - rather a psychopath of some kind.

And good Lord one was a Pentax!! Wondering what would be the reaction
from a Nikonian Chap??

That was the silliest video I have seen. You bet I did not LAFF at it
and it did not even make a good JOAK.

Fxxk those guys too before beheading by the ISIS.

Regards.
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Re: Car photography hints?

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There are three kinds of people, those who can learn by reading, those 
who can learn by observation, those who just go ahead and make mistakes.


On 10/4/2016 2:39 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



John wrote:

On 10/3/2016 6:00 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Thanks a bunch. That should save me from making several mistakes.



How do you ever expect to learn anything if you never make any mistakes?


By letting other people make them for me.


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Re: Getting in touch with my inner lesbian

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I doubt that any lesbian who drove a Subaru would wear a dress, they 
leave that to the ones that drive Miatas.

(I know, but I just /had/ to go there).

On 10/4/2016 3:14 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

Larry Colen wrote:

I bought a new toy yesterday, took a few snapshots on my way home from
brekkies today.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157673495755641


One of my friends has had one which he's put 100,000 miles on with no major
problems. I'm fairly certain he hasn't needed a dress to drive it.

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Re: Car photography hints?

[Rick Womer]

He's the list's big wheel in car photography.


On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:14 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

> Have Paul S. come out and shoot the car.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: Paul Stenquist 
>> Subject: Re: Car photography hints?
>> 
>> Yes, use your longest lens from a distance. Shoot on asphalt or concrete 
>> with a clean background like trees or hills. Position the car as far away 
>> from the background as possible. Camera height for your key shots should be 
>> about headlamp level. Shoot 3/4 and 7/8 front and rear as well as a full 
>> profile. Then shoot all except the profile from eye level. Finally shoot 
>> some 3/4 front and rear from a height of about 12 feet with a 50mm lens. Use 
>> a polarizer on all shots to eliminate reflections. With the low angle shots 
>> you will want to adjust the polarizer to eliminate reflections in the side 
>> of the car. With the high angles you may want to dial out the sky 
>> reflection. If you want to go all out you can shoot with two different 
>> polarizer settings and composite the results. Shoot the interior with your 
>> widest lens and a flash with diffuser. If the headliner is white or grey, 
>> bounce the flash off of it. Use the flash and a medium wide to shoot the 
>> engine.
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This question is mostly for Paul, but some other people might have some 
>>> good suggestions:
>>> 
>>> My neighbor is trying to sell his 1970 Challenger R/T.  He's had it for 40 
>>> years and it's generally in pretty good shape (340 engine).  He does not, 
>>> however, have good photos of it.  I've offered to take some for him.  Are 
>>> there any tips and tricks I should know about to avoid mistakes ahead of 
>>> time?  I.e. long lens from a distance rather than close up with a wide lens?
>>> 
>>> The car needs to be buffed out, would I be better of getting some shots of 
>>> it before hand so that the color shows more than the reflections?
>>> 
>>> What about shooting the interior?   Natural light?  Maybe some flash to 
>>> fill so that the view outside the windows isn't blown out?
>>> 
>>> Polarizers?  Critical or not?
>>> 
>>>  Larry
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Re: October PUG - UP - is Up!

[John]

On 10/4/2016 3:16 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

Brian Walters wrote:


I struggled to find a suitable image for this one, and 'Iconic Places'
is going to be another.

Really?  I though this theme would be an easy one!

Of course I found a few suitable - yesterday!

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Re: The Camera Store uses destroys a camera to make survival fishing gear.

[John]

On 10/3/2016 10:09 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

On topic because it's a Pentax...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qInq0PN3Z1s



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Re: Car photography hints?

[John]

Un hunh ... but if he ain't gonna' go out and make those mistakes, how
am I gonna' learn by reading about them? 8-)

On 10/4/2016 12:47 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

There are three kinds of people, those who can learn by reading, those
who can learn by observation, those who just go ahead and make mistakes.

On 10/4/2016 2:39 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



John wrote:

On 10/3/2016 6:00 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Thanks a bunch. That should save me from making several mistakes.



How do you ever expect to learn anything if you never make any mistakes?


By letting other people make them for me.


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Re: Getting in touch with my inner lesbian

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Nice. One of the models before they became all bloated and ugly. Good luck with 
it! 

My friend Ed and I put many miles on one very similar to that. It was used to 
tow the land sailer, the munitions required for high-end rocketry, camping 
gear, etc all over the northwestern deserts of Nevada and eastern Oregon. I 
think that was before they became the darling of the lesbian set.

On the other hand, that little black dress always looks so good. ]:-)

G

> Larry Colen wrote:
> 
> I bought a new toy yesterday, took a few snapshots on my way home from
> brekkies today.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157673495755641

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Re: Car photography hints?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

To supplement Paul's notes: 

- Wash and wax the car before shooting.
- Choose dusk or dawn light to shoot in.
- Turn on head and parking lights depending on illumination levels. 

I sometimes like a little bit more interesting or urban background rather than 
just trees or hills. I find that when I have zooms to work with and play with 
framing and such, I almost always see the most pleasing shots made at 75 to 
85mm for most exterior shots, 24 to 28 mm for interior shots, and 50mm for 
engine compartment details.

G

> On Oct 4, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> He's the list's big wheel in car photography.
> 
> 
>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:14 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
>> 
>> Have Paul S. come out and shoot the car.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Paul Stenquist 
>>> Subject: Re: Car photography hints?
>>> 
>>> Yes, use your longest lens from a distance. Shoot on asphalt or concrete 
>>> with a clean background like trees or hills. Position the car as far away 
>>> from the background as possible. Camera height for your key shots should be 
>>> about headlamp level. Shoot 3/4 and 7/8 front and rear as well as a full 
>>> profile. Then shoot all except the profile from eye level. Finally shoot 
>>> some 3/4 front and rear from a height of about 12 feet with a 50mm lens. 
>>> Use a polarizer on all shots to eliminate reflections. With the low angle 
>>> shots you will want to adjust the polarizer to eliminate reflections in the 
>>> side of the car. With the high angles you may want to dial out the sky 
>>> reflection. If you want to go all out you can shoot with two different 
>>> polarizer settings and composite the results. Shoot the interior with your 
>>> widest lens and a flash with diffuser. If the headliner is white or grey, 
>>> bounce the flash off of it. Use the flash and a medium wide to shoot the 
>>> engine.
>>> 
>>> Paul via phone
>>> 
 On Oct 3, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
 
 This question is mostly for Paul, but some other people might have some 
 good suggestions:
 
 My neighbor is trying to sell his 1970 Challenger R/T.  He's had it for 40 
 years and it's generally in pretty good shape (340 engine).  He does not, 
 however, have good photos of it.  I've offered to take some for him.  Are 
 there any tips and tricks I should know about to avoid mistakes ahead of 
 time?  I.e. long lens from a distance rather than close up with a wide 
 lens?
 
 The car needs to be buffed out, would I be better of getting some shots of 
 it before hand so that the color shows more than the reflections?
 
 What about shooting the interior?   Natural light?  Maybe some flash to 
 fill so that the view outside the windows isn't blown out?
 
 Polarizers?  Critical or not?
 
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Re: Markham Fair

[Bob W-PDML]

A propos of which, I learnt a new word earlier this week, related to ploughing. 
Thill. Can't think why I've never met it before.

B

> On 4 Oct 2016, at 17:14, Gonz  wrote:
> 
> I like that.  Takes you back to simpler days.  The feeling of power
> and motion is ever-present.
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>> Congrats Dave!  Well deserved.
>> The horses look very serious & powerful.
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 6:43 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>> Morning all.
>>> 
>>> This past weekend was the annual Markham fair, the one i submit
>>> pictures to for their photo contests. This year was a dismal year for
>>> me for photos, did not get out a lot but i did manage a few venues,
>>> one of which was the annual plow demo using horse drawn equipment. I
>>> submitted 6 photos and won a first and two thirds, One of my B&W's won
>>> best in class, something i have been striving for for the past 16
>>> years. I got a nice ribbon and a plaque as well
>>> 
>>> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2016-Lewis-farm/album/slides/DSCF0705.html
>>> 
>>> I'm quite thrilled by this.
>>> 
>>> Dave
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Re: Markham Fair

[David J Brooks]

Un thill we meet again.??

Dave

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> A propos of which, I learnt a new word earlier this week, related to 
> ploughing. Thill. Can't think why I've never met it before.
>
> B
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>> On 4 Oct 2016, at 17:14, Gonz  wrote:
>>
>> I like that.  Takes you back to simpler days.  The feeling of power
>> and motion is ever-present.
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>>> Congrats Dave!  Well deserved.
>>> The horses look very serious & powerful.
>>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>>
 On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 6:43 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
 Morning all.

 This past weekend was the annual Markham fair, the one i submit
 pictures to for their photo contests. This year was a dismal year for
 me for photos, did not get out a lot but i did manage a few venues,
 one of which was the annual plow demo using horse drawn equipment. I
 submitted 6 photos and won a first and two thirds, One of my B&W's won
 best in class, something i have been striving for for the past 16
 years. I got a nice ribbon and a plaque as well

 http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2016-Lewis-farm/album/slides/DSCF0705.html

 I'm quite thrilled by this.

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Re: Car photography hints?

[Ken Waller]

And he never tires of it.

-Original Message-
>From: Rick Womer 
>Subject: Re: Car photography hints?
>
>He's the list's big wheel in car photography.
>
>
>On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:14 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
>
>> Have Paul S. come out and shoot the car.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Paul Stenquist 
>>> Subject: Re: Car photography hints?
>>> 
>>> Yes, use your longest lens from a distance. Shoot on asphalt or concrete 
>>> with a clean background like trees or hills. Position the car as far away 
>>> from the background as possible. Camera height for your key shots should be 
>>> about headlamp level. Shoot 3/4 and 7/8 front and rear as well as a full 
>>> profile. Then shoot all except the profile from eye level. Finally shoot 
>>> some 3/4 front and rear from a height of about 12 feet with a 50mm lens. 
>>> Use a polarizer on all shots to eliminate reflections. With the low angle 
>>> shots you will want to adjust the polarizer to eliminate reflections in the 
>>> side of the car. With the high angles you may want to dial out the sky 
>>> reflection. If you want to go all out you can shoot with two different 
>>> polarizer settings and composite the results. Shoot the interior with your 
>>> widest lens and a flash with diffuser. If the headliner is white or grey, 
>>> bounce the flash off of it. Use the flash and a medium wide to shoot the 
>>> engine.
>>> 
>>> Paul via phone
>>> 
 On Oct 3, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
 
 This question is mostly for Paul, but some other people might have some 
 good suggestions:
 
 My neighbor is trying to sell his 1970 Challenger R/T.  He's had it for 40 
 years and it's generally in pretty good shape (340 engine).  He does not, 
 however, have good photos of it.  I've offered to take some for him.  Are 
 there any tips and tricks I should know about to avoid mistakes ahead of 
 time?  I.e. long lens from a distance rather than close up with a wide 
 lens?
 
 The car needs to be buffed out, would I be better of getting some shots of 
 it before hand so that the color shows more than the reflections?
 
 What about shooting the interior?   Natural light?  Maybe some flash to 
 fill so that the view outside the windows isn't blown out?
 
 Polarizers?  Critical or not?
 
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Re: Markham Fair

[Jack Davis]

Soil has been tilled for thousands of 
years.

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2016, at 12:36 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> A propos of which, I learnt a new word earlier this week, related to 
> ploughing. Thill. Can't think why I've never met it before.
> 
> B
> 
>> On 4 Oct 2016, at 17:14, Gonz  wrote:
>> 
>> I like that.  Takes you back to simpler days.  The feeling of power
>> and motion is ever-present.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>>> Congrats Dave!  Well deserved.
>>> The horses look very serious & powerful.
>>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>> 
 On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 6:43 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
 Morning all.
 
 This past weekend was the annual Markham fair, the one i submit
 pictures to for their photo contests. This year was a dismal year for
 me for photos, did not get out a lot but i did manage a few venues,
 one of which was the annual plow demo using horse drawn equipment. I
 submitted 6 photos and won a first and two thirds, One of my B&W's won
 best in class, something i have been striving for for the past 16
 years. I got a nice ribbon and a plaque as well
 
 http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2016-Lewis-farm/album/slides/DSCF0705.html
 
 I'm quite thrilled by this.
 
 Dave
 
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OT: Magnificent Moscow Metro

[Daniel J. Matyola]

When we were in Russia, 20 years ago, I was quite impressed by the beauty
of the Moscos Metro stations, and the steep, speedy and thrilling escalator
rides down to the stations.

I don't have any decent images from back then, but here are a few someone
else took and posted:

http://themetapicture.com/moscow-metro-stations-are-magnificent/

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RE: Peso - 'Carp River'

[Ken Waller]

Thanks for commenting Malcolm.

It's one of the least visited areas in the state.

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>From: Malcolm Smith 
>Subject: RE: Peso - 'Carp River'
>
>Ken Waller wrote:
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18293422
>
>Wow! What colours. Great view.
>
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Re: Markham Fair

[John]

There's a book or a movie called "The Thill of It All".


On 10/4/2016 3:36 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

A propos of which, I learnt a new word earlier this week, related to
ploughing. Thill. Can't think why I've never met it before.

B


On 4 Oct 2016, at 17:14, Gonz  wrote:

I like that.  Takes you back to simpler days.  The feeling of power
and motion is ever-present.



On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
Congrats Dave!  Well deserved.
The horses look very serious & powerful.
Regards,  Bob S.


On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 6:43 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
Morning all.

This past weekend was the annual Markham fair, the one i submit
pictures to for their photo contests. This year was a dismal year for
me for photos, did not get out a lot but i did manage a few venues,
one of which was the annual plow demo using horse drawn equipment. I
submitted 6 photos and won a first and two thirds, One of my B&W's won
best in class, something i have been striving for for the past 16
years. I got a nice ribbon and a plaque as well

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2016-Lewis-farm/album/slides/DSCF0705.html

I'm quite thrilled by this.

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Re: Peso - 'Carp River'

[David J Brooks]

wonderful fall shot

Dave

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> Captured on film awhile back, probably with a PZ1-P and 70-210 f4-5.6 SMC
> Pentax F.
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> This scene is in the Porcupine State Park in the Western part of the Upper
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> Comments appreciated.
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Re: Markham Fair

[Bob W-PDML]

Thill, not till. I've never tilled any soil, with or without a thill.

B

> On 4 Oct 2016, at 21:01, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> Soil has been tilled for thousands of 
> years.
> 
> J
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 4, 2016, at 12:36 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>> 
>> A propos of which, I learnt a new word earlier this week, related to 
>> ploughing. Thill. Can't think why I've never met it before.
>> 
>> B
>> 
>>> On 4 Oct 2016, at 17:14, Gonz  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I like that.  Takes you back to simpler days.  The feeling of power
>>> and motion is ever-present.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Bob Sullivan  
 wrote:
 Congrats Dave!  Well deserved.
 The horses look very serious & powerful.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 6:43 AM, David J Brooks  
> wrote:
> Morning all.
> 
> This past weekend was the annual Markham fair, the one i submit
> pictures to for their photo contests. This year was a dismal year for
> me for photos, did not get out a lot but i did manage a few venues,
> one of which was the annual plow demo using horse drawn equipment. I
> submitted 6 photos and won a first and two thirds, One of my B&W's won
> best in class, something i have been striving for for the past 16
> years. I got a nice ribbon and a plaque as well
> 
> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2016-Lewis-farm/album/slides/DSCF0705.html
> 
> I'm quite thrilled by this.
> 
> Dave
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Re: OT: Magnificent Moscow Metro

[P.J. Alling]

The Metro was so beautiful because everything else about the old Soviet 
Union was so crappy. Probably under the gilt the Metro was crappy too, 
but it still looked good.


On 10/4/2016 4:42 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

When we were in Russia, 20 years ago, I was quite impressed by the beauty
of the Moscos Metro stations, and the steep, speedy and thrilling escalator
rides down to the stations.

I don't have any decent images from back then, but here are a few someone
else took and posted:

http://themetapicture.com/moscow-metro-stations-are-magnificent/

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Re: The Camera Store Destroys A Camera To Make Survival Fishing Gear

[Bill]

On 10/4/2016 10:33 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote:

That Camera Store Owner and that Chap in the video should be sent to
the ISIS in Syria for a Grand Beheading, just like what he did to
those poor cameras. I am certain that stupid guy was neither a
Photographer nor a Fisherman - rather a psychopath of some kind.

And good Lord one was a Pentax!! Wondering what would be the reaction
from a Nikonian Chap??

That was the silliest video I have seen. You bet I did not LAFF at it
and it did not even make a good JOAK.

Fxxk those guys too before beheading by the ISIS.

Regards.
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Re: The Camera Store Destroys A Camera To Make Survival Fishing Gear

[Larry Colen]

Bill wrote:


That was the silliest video I have seen. You bet I did not LAFF at it
and it did not even make a good JOAK.

Fxxk those guys too before beheading by the ISIS.

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Re: Peso - 'Carp River'

[Ken Waller]

Thanks for commenting Alan.

The fall season offer many photo opportunities in Michigan.
The color change starts in the western part of the Upper Peninsula and 
gradually heads east and then south to the Lower Peninsula.
There can be fall color somewhere on Michigan for 6 weeks or so, generally 
starting late September most years.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Alan C" 

Subject: Re: Peso - 'Carp River'



Quite stunning, Ken. We never see anything like that around here.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Ken Waller

Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 8:59 PM
To: pentax list
Subject: Peso - 'Carp River'

Captured on film awhile back, probably with a PZ1-P and 70-210 f4-5.6 SMC
Pentax F.

This scene is in the Porcupine State Park in the Western part of the Upper
Peninsula of Michigan.

Comments appreciated.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18293422

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Re: Markham Fair

[Jostein]

Congratulations, Dave.
That's great news!
Jostein

Den 03.10.2016 13.43, skrev David J Brooks:

Morning all.

This past weekend was the annual Markham fair, the one i submit
pictures to for their photo contests. This year was a dismal year for
me for photos, did not get out a lot but i did manage a few venues,
one of which was the annual plow demo using horse drawn equipment. I
submitted 6 photos and won a first and two thirds, One of my B&W's won
best in class, something i have been striving for for the past 16
years. I got a nice ribbon and a plaque as well

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2016-Lewis-farm/album/slides/DSCF0705.html

I'm quite thrilled by this.

Dave



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Re: Peso - 'Carp River'

[Bruce Walker]

Superb. That's one of those which really needs to be seen large to
properly appreciate the subtleties. Have you printed it?

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> Captured on film awhile back, probably with a PZ1-P and 70-210 f4-5.6 SMC
> Pentax F.
>
> This scene is in the Porcupine State Park in the Western part of the Upper
> Peninsula of Michigan.
>
> Comments appreciated.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18293422
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
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Shutter firing erratic

[Eric Weir]

Shooting a cross country meet this evening there were numerous instances in 
which the shutter did not fire or firing was delayed when I pressed the shutter 
release button. 

My camera is a k-5. I was using the 4-5.6/50-200 lens. On some of the occasions 
I experienced the problem, maybe all of them, I had a polarizing filter on the 
lens. Many of the situations were likely underexposed. I assume exposure 
settings should not affect whether the shutter fires or not. The battery 
indicator indicated about a half-charge. I changed batteries anyway, and for a 
moment that seemed to make a difference, but only for a moment. 

I checked through the menu after the meet to see if there was something I might 
have set that would have caused this problem, but didn’t find anything.

Any clues as to what was going on? Might it be a mechanical problem?

Thanks, 
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Re: OT: Magnificent Moscow Metro

[Daniel J. Matyola]

When we were there, after the fall of the Soviet Union, it performed as
well as it looked.  The trains arrived and departed precisely on time.
They were clean, comfortable and cheerful.  It is, in my opinion, better
than the Paris Metro and the LondonUndergrounf in all respectsd.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 5:41 PM, P.J. Alling 
wrote:

> The Metro was so beautiful because everything else about the old Soviet
> Union was so crappy. Probably under the gilt the Metro was crappy too, but
> it still looked good.
>
>
> On 10/4/2016 4:42 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>> When we were in Russia, 20 years ago, I was quite impressed by the beauty
>> of the Moscos Metro stations, and the steep, speedy and thrilling
>> escalator
>> rides down to the stations.
>>
>> I don't have any decent images from back then, but here are a few someone
>> else took and posted:
>>
>> http://themetapicture.com/moscow-metro-stations-are-magnificent/
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
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Re: Shutter firing erratic

[John]

On 10/4/2016 7:58 PM, Eric Weir wrote:

Shooting a cross country meet this evening there were numerous
instances in which the shutter did not fire or firing was delayed
when I pressed the shutter release button.

My camera is a k-5. I was using the 4-5.6/50-200 lens. On some of the
occasions I experienced the problem, maybe all of them, I had a
polarizing filter on the lens. Many of the situations were likely
underexposed. I assume exposure settings should not affect whether
the shutter fires or not. The battery indicator indicated about a
half-charge. I changed batteries anyway, and for a moment that seemed
to make a difference, but only for a moment.

I checked through the menu after the meet to see if there was
something I might have set that would have caused this problem, but
didn’t find anything.

Any clues as to what was going on? Might it be a mechanical problem?


If you're shooting in AF.S mode, the action priority might be set to
"Focus-priority" (default setting). The K-5 manual says the shutter
won't fire if the subject is not in focus.

See the Custom Setting 3 menu on p.92. This can be a problem especially
if you use the shutter release button for both auto-focus and shutter
release.

There should also be a function that allows you to use the AF button on
the back for auto-focus & the shutter release only for shutter release.
It seemed like enabling the AF button on the back makes AF button and/or
pressing the shutter release halfway causes it to auto-focus. I couldn't
quite figure out how to separate the functions by what it said in the
manual.




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Re: Getting in touch with my inner lesbian

[steve harley]

On 2016-10-03 15:14 , Larry Colen wrote:

I bought a new toy yesterday, took a few snapshots on my way home from
brekkies today.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157673495755641

I know there are some people who hate on Subarus, but this one seems to be
mechanically solid, it was relatively cheap (same out the door as State Farm
paid me for damage to the Screaming Buttweasel),


it may also be cheaper to insure than your Miata …

Subaru is the state car of Colorado; yes, a lot of strong women drive them, 
and they seem to hold up well (i've never had one); they are also favorites 
of car thieves




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Re: Markham Fair

[Christine Aguila]

That’s wonderful, Dave!  Very deserving of best in class!  Big congrats  from 
Chicago!  Cheers, Christine


> On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:43 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> Morning all.
> 
> This past weekend was the annual Markham fair, the one i submit
> pictures to for their photo contests. This year was a dismal year for
> me for photos, did not get out a lot but i did manage a few venues,
> one of which was the annual plow demo using horse drawn equipment. I
> submitted 6 photos and won a first and two thirds, One of my B&W's won
> best in class, something i have been striving for for the past 16
> years. I got a nice ribbon and a plaque as well
> 
> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2016-Lewis-farm/album/slides/DSCF0705.html
> 
> I'm quite thrilled by this.
> 
> Dave
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> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
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Re: Shutter firing erratic

[Stanley Halpin]

Eric, I think John nailed the problem. You have your options set such that the 
camera will not fire if [something] is not in focus.
I don’t remember the K-5 setup, but on the K-3 and other cameras since then 
there is a choice for AF1 or AF2 under Button Customization. AF1 is the 
“normal” approach: AF is engaged if you depress the shutter half-way or if you 
press the AF button on the back. AF2 is for we fans of “back button focusing.” 
If you choose this setting, only the AF button on the back engages AF.

So, if you set your AF mode to AF-C, choose AF2 in the Customization menu, and 
choose shutter priority rather than focus priority, you can shoot as follows: 
1. Press the AF button, 2. Wait until the camera is focused on the spot of your 
choice. 3. Recompose as you choose. 4. Fire away. If the subject is moving, 
keep your thumb on the AF button, track along, and fire whenever the mood 
strikes you. Note, if the subject is still, keep your thumb away from the AF 
button unless and until you want to choose a new focus point.

stan

> On Oct 4, 2016, at 9:42 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> On 10/4/2016 7:58 PM, Eric Weir wrote:
>> Shooting a cross country meet this evening there were numerous
>> instances in which the shutter did not fire or firing was delayed
>> when I pressed the shutter release button.
>> 
>> My camera is a k-5. I was using the 4-5.6/50-200 lens. On some of the
>> occasions I experienced the problem, maybe all of them, I had a
>> polarizing filter on the lens. Many of the situations were likely
>> underexposed. I assume exposure settings should not affect whether
>> the shutter fires or not. The battery indicator indicated about a
>> half-charge. I changed batteries anyway, and for a moment that seemed
>> to make a difference, but only for a moment.
>> 
>> I checked through the menu after the meet to see if there was
>> something I might have set that would have caused this problem, but
>> didn’t find anything.
>> 
>> Any clues as to what was going on? Might it be a mechanical problem?
> 
> If you're shooting in AF.S mode, the action priority might be set to
> "Focus-priority" (default setting). The K-5 manual says the shutter
> won't fire if the subject is not in focus.
> 
> See the Custom Setting 3 menu on p.92. This can be a problem especially
> if you use the shutter release button for both auto-focus and shutter
> release.
> 
> There should also be a function that allows you to use the AF button on
> the back for auto-focus & the shutter release only for shutter release.
> It seemed like enabling the AF button on the back makes AF button and/or
> pressing the shutter release halfway causes it to auto-focus. I couldn't
> quite figure out how to separate the functions by what it said in the
> manual.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> 
>> Eric Weir
>> Decatur, GA  USA eew...@bellsouth.net
>> 
>> "Imagining the other is a powerful antidote to fanaticism and
>> hatred."
>> 
>> - Amos Oz
>> 
>> 
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Re: OT: Magnificent Moscow Metro

[Igor PDML-StR]

I agree with Dan: While I haven't used London Underground, I have not seen 
a large-city subway system that would unequivocally bit Moscow Metro.

(But I haven't been to Chine or Korea.)

Besides the beautiful architecture, there are many advantages of 
Moscow Metro:
1. Open long hours (most stations are open for entry from about 5:30am 
till 1:00am, while typically the last train starts from the end station 
at about 1am).
2. The frequency of trains during the day time is 2-4 minutes, and can be 
10 (or even close to 15) minutes at late night.

3. Trains are long, and hence have high capacity.
4. Low cost (very affordable) and simple payment system (per ride, 
regardless of length or line changes).
5. Fairly large and mostly logical coverage (unlike e.g. lopsided subway 
system in NYC).


The biggest negative aspect is the lack of temperature control inside the 
trains (no AC), - until about 2010. These days there are still many trains 
without AC.



Unfortunately, subway systems in the ConUS are by far inferior to 
Moscow Metro (and some are crappy or nonexistant).


Igor



Daniel J. Matyola Tue, 04 Oct 2016 18:32:15 -0700 wrote:

When we were there, after the fall of the Soviet Union, it performed as
well as it looked.  The trains arrived and departed precisely on time.
They were clean, comfortable and cheerful.  It is, in my opinion, better
than the Paris Metro and the LondonUndergrounf in all respectsd.


Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 5:41 PM, P.J. Alling  
wrote:



The Metro was so beautiful because everything else about the old Soviet
Union was so crappy. Probably under the gilt the Metro was crappy too, but
it still looked good.


On 10/4/2016 4:42 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


When we were in Russia, 20 years ago, I was quite impressed by the beauty
of the Moscos Metro stations, and the steep, speedy and thrilling
escalator
rides down to the stations.

I don't have any decent images from back then, but here are a few someone
else took and posted:

http://themetapicture.com/moscow-metro-stations-are-magnificent/

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



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PESO - Red? Or Blue?

[Marco Alpert]

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso21.html

Comments, as always, welcomed.

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RE: Test image: Out In The Field Take 2

[Malcolm Smith]

Larry Colen wrote:

> Test link 2: http://flic.kr/p/MEp6SQ

You're still keeping the critics at bay.

Another nice shot.

Thank you Larry. Just pleased at the moment that links work as they should.

Malcolm


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Re: PESO - Red? Or Blue?

[Larry Colen]

Marco Alpert wrote:

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso21.html

Comments, as always, welcomed.


NB Miata?

Interesting perspective.




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PESO: Watching The Bridge

[Malcolm Smith]

 

  http://flic.kr/p/Ms4cxC

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RE: PESO - Red? Or Blue?

[Malcolm Smith]

Marco Alpert wrote:

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso21.html

Interesting; tell us more about it.

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