economics query about indebtedness in US

2004-02-25 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Does anyone have recent estimates of the total debt structure of the United
States ? My approximate estimates were as follows:

Total debt held by households about $32 trillion
Total debt held by business about $4.7 trillion
Total debt held by state and local government about $1.5 trillion
Total debt held by federal government about $3 trillion (gross federal debt
$7 trillion)

Total debt, United States $41.2 trillion, i.e. about four times GDP and
about a fifth of that owing to foreign investors)

J.


Democratic Party?

2004-02-25 Thread Louis Proyect
Democratic Party?

by Don Fitz
February 25, 2004
THIRD PARTY

Discussions of the 2004 presidential race often leave out the very
important question of whether it is in the best interest of progressive
movements for the Democratic Party to run someone for president. I
believe that the Democratic Party should stand down in 2004. Here are 10
reasons why.
Reason No. 1. The Democratic Party was responsible for the election of
George W. Bush in the 2000 election.
In the 2000 elections, the Green Party brought at least a million voters
to the polls who would have selected the Democratic Party candidate as
their second choice if they had been able to. For years, Greens have
been advocating Instant Runoff Voting, (IRV) which lets voters rank
order candidates and, if their first choice is not among the top
contenders, transfers their vote to another choice. Since the Democratic
Party knew that IRV is used around the world and that Green votes could
be the difference in a close race, they knew that IRV could be the
difference between winning and losing the 2000 election. [1]
But the Democratic Party power brokers also knew that if voters had
access to IRV, tens of millions would have shown their disgust with Gore
by ranking him below Nader. Thus, they decided they would rather risk
losing the election than see this happen.
Democratic Party bosses concluded they had far more in common with
George W. Bush than with Ralph Nader. They intentionally kept Nader out
of the presidential debates, despite more voter apathy and a lower
turnout. They refused to aggressively challenge the illegal
disenfranchisement of African-American voters in Florida or even to
demand that every vote be counted. They consciously put George W. Bush
in the White House as their lesser evil.
Reason No. 2. The Democratic Party opposes Bush but does not oppose
Bush's political program.
During the US slaughter in Vietnam, many commented that World War II
defeated Hitler but fascism won. The 2004 Democratic strategy is the
same. The Democrats want to replace Bush, the personality. But they do
not care if someone else continues Bush's policies.
Their mantra Anyone but Bush blurs and confuses these two concepts.
The average person thinks, Stop the horrible things Bush is doing;
anyone who replaces him will act differently. But smoke-filled
Democratic Party plotting sessions will select a candidate who can
capitalize on anti-Bush sentiment and what he would do in office would
be irrelevant. In fact, Anyone but Bush ignores that the Democratic
Party is responsible for each and every one of the atrocities associated
with the one they demonize.
If the Democrats are against the Bush program, why do they wait until
the election to fight it? Why don't they mobilize, as a party, [not as
individual people, but as a political party] to demonstrate, strike,
etc. to stop the Bush program now? Why would they tell us Wait until
the 2004 elections to stop the Bush program?
Democratic candidates pretend to be less pro-war, more pro-labor, and
more pro-human rights; then they move to the right to get the
nomination, and further to the right to win the election. The Democrats
only nominate a 2004 presidential candidate to lull voters into
believing they are an alternative. Voters need an honest choice in 2004,
therefore the Democratic Party should stay out of the presidential race.
Reason No. 3. The Democratic Party made Richard Nixon the most
progressive president in the last 30 years.
The following occurred during the Nixon reign:

a. an end to the Vietnam War;

b. beginning of the Food Stamp program;

c. creation of the Environmental Protection Agency;

d. recognition of China;

e. passage of the Freedom of Information Act;

f. formal dismantling of the FBI's COINTEL program;

g. decriminalization of abortion;

h. creation of Earned Income Tax Credits;

i. formal ban on biological weapons; and,

j. passage of the Clean Water Act.

These did not happen because Nixon and Kissinger tiptoed through the
tulips concluding that warm fuzzy feelings beat genocide in Southeast
Asia. They happened because corporate heads and agents in government
were terrified of the convergence of anti-war, Black power, women's and
environmental movements and their potential impact on the labor
movement. The Nixon years prove beyond a doubt that mass movements can
force good things from horrible people in power.
The Democratic Party presidencies after Nixon prove that people in power
without mass movements have no value no matter which party selects them.
No presidency since Nixon reaped so many progressive results. This is
because the Democratic Party defuses mass movements and channels them
into dead-end politics.
full: http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=33ItemID=5042

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Blaming Nader

2004-02-25 Thread Louis Proyect
THE DEMOCRATS: OPEN UP OR SHUT UP

SAM SMITH

For the past four years, the only thing the Democrats and their media
enablers have had to say about Ralph Nader is that he was to blame for
their troubles. It was an utter lie that ignored, among other things,
the lack of correlation between Nader and Gore in the polls leading to
the election. For example between August and September 2000 Gore's
average poll results rose 7.5 points but Nader's went down only 1 point.
Between September and October, Gore's average went down 5.7 points and
Nader's went up .8 points. At least 85% of Gore's changes were due to
something other than Nader.
The Democrat's libel is further revealed in exit polling which showed that:

--34% of union members voted for Bush but only 3% for Nader

--13% of self-described liberals voted for Bush but only 6% for Nader

--25% of gays voted for Bush but only 4% for Nader

--15% of people who voted for Clinton in 1996 voted for Bush in 2000 but
only 2% for Nader.
--26% of those who voted for a Democratic candidate for governor split
their ticket to vote for Bush but only 2% for Nader.
More significantly, and totally unmentioned by either Democrats or the
media, was the role that Clinton's corruption played in the electon.
Sixty percent of votes had an unfavorable opinion of Clinton and 68%
said he would go down in history books for his scandals rather than his
achievements.
Further the party remains in deep denial about what had happened to it
during the Clinton years. It went into the 2000 race having lost under
Clinton nearly 50 seats in the House, 8 seats in the Senate, 11
governorships, over 1200 state legislative seats, 9 state legislatures,
and over 400 Democratic officeholders who had become Republicans.
It also ran as a presidential candidate a loyal member of the Clinton
political machine which had chalked up criminal convictions for drug
trafficking, racketeering, extortion, bribery, tax evasion, kickbacks,
embezzlement, fraud, conspiracy, fraudulent loans, illegal gifts,
illegal campaign contributions, money laundering, perjury, and
obstruction of justice yet still insisted that its only problem was
about sex.
None of this mattered, however. It was, we were constantly reminded,
solely Ralph Nader's fault.
And so we come to the 2004 race and guess what? Ralph Nader is pissed
off and ready to try again.
For four years, while insisting that Nader and the Greens had cost it
the election, the Democrats did not do one thing to insure that what
they claimed was true didn't happen again. In fact, they went out of
their way to insure that American progressives would feel as unwelcome
in 2004 as they did in 2000.
They made no common cause with Greens on any issue.

They appointed no Greens to positions in federal, state or local
government.
They took not one step to institute instant runoff voting which would
have eliminated the problem they complained about.
They even moved immediately to redistrict the first state legislative
seat won by a Green.
This has not prevented a hideous whining and gratuitous nastiness upon
Nader's announcement that he intends to run again. For example, Tim
Russert told Nader on Meet the Press, I've got thousands of e-mails
from people over the last several weeks talking about you and your
potential candidacy and many of them come down to three letters, E-G-O,
ego, this is all about Ralph. He's going to be a spoiler because of his
ego. How do you respond?
A proper response might have been, Gee, Tim, it sounds like I must be
watching your show too much for in fact there is not a scintilla of
evidence that Nader's ego, robust as it may be, is any more
hypertrophied than that of the major party candidates or of the host of
Meet the Press
full: http://prorev.com/

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McScience

2004-02-25 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Review of Books
Volume 51, Number 4  March 11, 2004
Review
The Dawn of McScience
By Richard Horton
Science in the Private Interest: Has the Lure of Profits Corrupted 
Biomedical Research?
by Sheldon Krimsky
Rowman and Littlefield, 247 pp., $27.95

One of the most striking aspects of John Paul II's papal leadership has 
been his frequent and outspoken forays into science, especially the life 
sciences. His positions on abortion, sexuality, and contraception have 
alienated vast numbers of Catholics and non-Catholics. Many people had 
seen his tenure in the Vatican as an opportunity for progressive 
leadership on issues ranging from AIDS in Africa to the reproductive 
rights of women. They have been disappointed. But his staunch orthodoxy 
has had one unexpected, and some would say beneficial, consequencea 
decisive opposition to the commercial exploitation of science.

In a letter to the apostolic nuncio in Poland on March 25, 2002, John 
Paul II condemned the overriding financial interests that operate in 
biomedical and pharmaceutical research. These forces, he wrote, prompted 
decisions and products which are contrary to truly human values and to 
the demands of justice. His particular target was the medicine of 
desires, by which he meant those drugs and procedures that are 
contrary to the moral good, serving as they do the pursuit of pleasure 
rather than the eradication of poverty. In an especially thoughtful 
passage, he wrote that

the pre-eminence of the profit motive in conducting scientific research 
ultimately means that science is deprived of its epistemological 
character, according to which its primary goal is discovery of the 
truth. The risk is that when research takes a utilitarian turn, its 
speculative dimension, which is the inner dynamic of man's intellectual 
journey, will be diminished or stifled.

Sheldon Krimsky, a physicist, philosopher, and policy analyst now at the 
Tufts University School of Medicine, puts it more bluntly. In Science in 
the Private Interest, a strongly argued polemic against the commercial 
conditions in which scientific research currently operates, he shows how 
universities have become little more than instruments of wealth. This 
shift in the mission of academia, Krimsky claims, works against the 
public interest. Universities have sacrificed their larger social 
responsibilities to accommodate a new purposethe privatization of know- 
ledgeby engaging in multimillion-dollar contracts with industries that 
demand the rights to negotiate licenses from any subsequent discovery 
(as Novartis did, Krimsky reports, in a $25 million deal with the 
University of California at Berkeley). Science has long been ripe for 
industrial colonization. The traditional norms of disinterested inquiry 
and free expression of opinion have been given up in order to harvest 
new and much-needed revenues. When the well-known physician David Healy 
raised concerns about the risks of suicide among those taking one type 
of antidepressant, his new appointment as clinical director of the 
University of Toronto's Centre for Addiction and Mental Health was 
immediately revoked. Universities have reinvented themselves as 
corporations. Scientists are coming to accept, and in many cases enjoy, 
their enhanced status as entrepreneurs. But these subtle yet insidious 
changes to the rules of engagement between science and commerce are 
causing, in Krimsky's view, incalculable injury to society, as well as 
to science.

full: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/16954

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Re: Democratic Party?

2004-02-25 Thread Robert Scott Gassler
Interesting, however,

Reason No. 1. The Democratic Party was responsible for the election of
George W. Bush in the 2000 election.
George W. Bush was not elected in 2000. Gore was. Bush took the presidency
using his family friends in the Supreme Court.
Democratic candidates pretend to be less pro-war, more pro-labor, and
more pro-human rights; then they move to the right to get the
nomination, and further to the right to win the election. The Democrats
only nominate a 2004 presidential candidate to lull voters into
believing they are an alternative. Voters need an honest choice in 2004,
therefore the Democratic Party should stay out of the presidential race.
Both Bushes did the same thing on the right to get elected: they pretended
to be more right-wing than they really were, then moved to the left to get
the nomination, and further to the left to win the election. That's the way
elections are won. Once in power however, Bush Jr moved back to his core
constituency and is right-wing again. Kerry could do the same.
At 09:45 25/02/04 -0500, Louis Proyect wrote:
Democratic candidates pretend to be less pro-war, more pro-labor, and
more pro-human rights; then they move to the right to get the
nomination, and further to the right to win the election. The Democrats
only nominate a 2004 presidential candidate to lull voters into
believing they are an alternative. Voters need an honest choice in 2004,
therefore the Democratic Party should stay out of the presidential race.
Robert Scott Gassler
Professor of Economics
Vesalius College of the Vrije Universiteit Brussel
Pleinlaan 2
B-1050 Brussels
Belgium
32.2.629.27.15


Democrats nominate Hitler

2004-02-25 Thread Louis Proyect
Democrats nominate Hitler

by Ran Prieur
Wednesday, February 18, 2004
http://ranprieur.pitas.com/
BOSTON. After switching their allegiance from anarcho-communist Howard
Dean to ultra-liberal John Kerry, and then to liberal John Edwards, on
the final day of their convention Democrats switched one last time to
extreme moderate Adolf Hitler, convinced that he's the man who has the
best chance of beating Bush.
This election has never been about issues, said Democratic Party
spokesman Heinrich Himmler. It's not about whether we go to war, about
military spending, or taxes, or the federal budget, or the environment,
or civil liberties, or even abortion. That's the kind of starry-eyed
idealism that killed us in '72. This election is about one thing --
getting that bastard Bush out of there, that lying, draft-dodging,
coke-snorting, beady-eyed, stupid, bad, bad person. Hate him! Hate him!
Hate him!
General Hermann Goering, an early supporter of Hitler's campaign,
agreed. Clearly, for the Democratic Party to be relevant, they have to
capture the presidency, and the way to do it is by moving farther and
farther to the center. John Kerry is a war veteran, and voted for the
Iraq war, but he's haunted by his anti-war background. After September
11, that's just not going to play in the heartland, or in the South.
Hitler, on the other hand, has always been pro-war. He's called for the
liberation of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Canada, even Europe. On national
defense and the war on terror, he's even more moderate than Bush!
Moderation, says columnist Joseph Goebbels, is the key. On so many
issues, such as his proposals to clear-cut the national forests, to put
all dissidents into detention facilities, to double defense spending, to
abolish all corporate taxes, to prohibit labor unions, and to conquer
the world in a thousand year American homeland, Hitler makes the other
Democrats, and even Bush, look like raving Green Party radicals,
tree-hugging, granola-eating, flower-sniffing hippie-anarchists. If
moderate means making your opponents look liberal in comparison, and
clearly that's exactly what it means, then Hitler is as moderate as they
come.
Senator Joseph Lieberman has enthusiastically endorsed Hitler's
campaign. At last, Lieberman said, we have a candidate who will do
something about degenerate culture, about all the filth coming out of
Hollywood, someone who will clean up those stinking subhumans who have
defiled the purity of American culture. I think this will be a final
solution.
When asked about Hitler's repeated statements that he wants to kill all
Jews, Lieberman laughed. We know he's not really going to do that. That
would be absurd. I mean, some of his best friends are Jews. No, he's
just a tough talker. Americans like that -- it's presidential.
Although Democrats rank Hitler consistently low (roughly 0%) in terms of
personal agreement with his policies, most of them are happily falling
behind him. Says Cedar Rapids activist Wendy Pipkin, I mean, if I could
pick anyone I wanted, it would be Dennis Kucinich, but the people can't
just pick anyone they want. This is a democracy, which means you have to
pick someone who people believe other people will vote for, and nobody
will vote for Kucinich because, you know, nobody will vote for him.
Hitler gives us a real chance to get a Democrat back in the White House.
But not everyone agrees. Some Democrats are nervous about Hitler's
candidacy, like Seattle precinct committee officer Richard Shodley.
Hitler's a vegetarian, he says, wringing his hands, and he's made
statements that could be construed as sympathetic to animal rights
activists. If the Republicans get their hands on that, they can nail him
to the wall in November. I'm just afraid it gives them too much
ammunition. What I really fear is, Bush could still win.
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Winning with Nader

2004-02-25 Thread Louis Proyect
Counterpunch, February 25, 2004

Campaign Diary
Winning with Ralph Nader
By ALEXANDER COCKBURN
and JEFFREY ST. CLAIR
Listening to Democrats screaming about Ralph Nader's entry into the
presidential race we finally understand the mindset of those Communist
dictatorships that used to take such trouble to ensure that the final
count showed a 99 percent Yes vote for the CP candidate. It's a
totalitarian logic. Anybody But Bush chorus the Democrats. But they
don't mean that. They mean, Nobody But Kerry. And if John Edward wins
big in the primaries next week, they'll start shouting Nobody But
Edwards.
What they're saying is that no one has the right to challenge Bush but a
Democrat, whoever that Democrat might be, no matter what that Democrat
stands for. As CounterPuncher Fred Feldman recently sarcastically
parodied this totalitarian logic: Democracy is when everybody but the
good candidate pulls out of the race, and indeed the only way to save
democracy is for all candidates except Kerry to withdraw. That should
include Bush too, of course. If there is more than one candidate, the
horror of 2000 may be repeated! More than one candidate means
vote-stealing, reactionary advertising campaigns, the possibility of
Republican and Green and socialist candidates, and unpredictable
outcomes. The good candidate may not win.
The stream of abuse at Nader, a man who has toiled unceasingly for the
public good for half a century has been childishly vulgar and vitriolic.
Nader is a faded chanteuse in a dingy nightclub, wrote Robert Scheer
venerable liberal pundit for the Los Angeles Times. He should know. If
Nader had an ounce of principle, railed Bruce Jackson, distinguished
professor of culture at the University of Buffalo here on the
CounterPunch site, he'd go sit on the capitol steps, douse himself with
gasoline and exit this world of imperfect humanity in a blaze of
protesting glory. He could even wear a monkish robe.
What has Nader done since 2000, asked Scheer scornfully, albeit
stupidly. As Jim Ridgeway points out in the Village Voice, It's been
Nader and his groups, not the Democrats, who've spearheaded universal
health care ever since Hillary Clinton botched the chance for health
reform in the early 90s. It's been Nader and his troops who've kept the
searchlight on corporate crime, who raised the hue and cry on Enron,
when Democrats were smoothing the counterpane for Lay in the Lincoln
Bedroom.
From the point of view of democracy, the American political system is a
shambles of corruption, gerrymandered to ensure that it is almost
impossible to evict any sitting member of the House of Representatives.
The presidential debates are fixed to exclude unwelcome intruders. Nader
says that in the whole of his 2000 challenge he got about 3 minutes
face-time on the major networks.
You can understand why the two major parties don't want any outsider
spoiling the fun. They arranged things that way, as Nader understands,
and explains better than anyone.
I think the mistake the Democrats are making said Nader at the
National Press Club on Monday  when they use the mantra 'anybody but
Bush' is, first of all, it closes their mind to any alternative
strategies or any creative thinking, which is not good for a political
party. And second, it gives their ultimate nominee no mandate, no
constituency, no policies, if the ultimate nominee goes into the White
House.
And then they'll be back to us. I guarantee you the
Democrats, the liberal groups, the liberal intelligentsia, the civic
groups that are now whining and complaining, even though they know
they're being shut out increasingly, year after year, from trying to
improve their country when they go to work every day. And they'll be
saying, 'Oh, you can't believe -- we were betrayed. The Democrats are
succumbing to the corporate interests in the environment, consumer
protection.'
How many cycles do we have to go through here? How long is the learning
curve before we recognize that political parties are the problem?
They're the problem! They're the ones who have turned our government
over to the corporations, so they can say no to universal health
insurance and no to a living wage and no to environmental sanity and no
to renewable energy and no to a whole range of issues that corporations
were never allowed to say no to 30, 40, 50 years ago. Things really have
changed.
Nader's seen it happen time and again. Bold promises from a Democratic
candidate, followed by ignominious collapse. And each time the promises
are vaguer, more timid. Each time the whole system tilts further in the
direction of corporate power. Nader is saying that the Democrats are so
hopelessly compromised that they don't know how to energize people to
get them into the polling booths to vote against Bush. So he's going to
lend a hand. Nader can be the candidate denouncing the war that Bush
started and Kerry voted for. Nader can denounce the corporate slush
that's given Bush his hundred million dollar war chest and 

less support for free trade

2004-02-25 Thread Michael Perelman
I got this from the right wing Marginal Revolution web site.

High-income Americans have lost much of their enthusiasm for free trade as they
perceive their own jobs threatened by white-collar workers in China, India and otonal
trade.

The poll shows that among Americans making more than $100,000 a year, support for
actively promoting more free trade collapsed from 57% to less than half that, 28%.
There were smaller drops, averaging less than 7 percentage points, in income brackets
below $70,000, where support for free trade was already weaker.

The same poll found that the share of Americans making more than $100,000 who want
the push toward free trade slowed or stopped altogether nearly doubled from 17% to
33%.

http://www.pipa.org/





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Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu


Post-election, Korea?

2004-02-25 Thread Marvin Gandall
Todays Financial Times says the Bush administration is going through
the motions of negotiating with North Korea, and will push for economic
sanctions which could lead to war after the US election.

FT reporter Andrew Ward says the US needs to bring the Chinese and South
Koreans onboard, but both are strongly opposed, fearing [sanctions]
would lead to war or destabilizing regime failure in the North.

The Pentagon estimates a war would kill a staggering 500,000 South
Korean and US troops, and hundreds of thousands more civilians in the
first 90 days. The unspecified destabilizing effects alluded to by
Ward which most concern North Koreas neighbours are their borders being
overrun by starving refugees.

Some analysts point to similar US threats in an identical crisis in
1994, and the resulting succcessful Chinese pressure on the Kim il-Jong
regime to freeze nuclear weapons development. But others note the North
Koreans are on the brink of permanently guaranteeing their security as
the worlds ninth nuclear power, and believe the US and others will have
no choice but to reconcile themselves to it.

FT (sub only) article available on www.supportingfacts.com

Sorry for any cross posting.


Re: Winning with Nader

2004-02-25 Thread Robert Scott Gassler
Where was all this talk before Nader entered the race? Did I miss it?

At 11:00 25/02/04 -0500, you wrote:
Counterpunch, February 25, 2004

Campaign Diary
Winning with Ralph Nader
By ALEXANDER COCKBURN
and JEFFREY ST. CLAIR
Listening to Democrats screaming about Ralph Nader's entry into the
presidential race we finally understand the mindset of those Communist
dictatorships that used to take such trouble to ensure that the final
count showed a 99 percent Yes vote for the CP candidate. It's a
totalitarian logic. Anybody But Bush chorus the Democrats. But they
don't mean that. They mean, Nobody But Kerry. And if John Edward wins
big in the primaries next week, they'll start shouting Nobody But
Edwards.
What they're saying is that no one has the right to challenge Bush but a
Democrat, whoever that Democrat might be, no matter what that Democrat
stands for. As CounterPuncher Fred Feldman recently sarcastically
parodied this totalitarian logic: Democracy is when everybody but the
good candidate pulls out of the race, and indeed the only way to save
democracy is for all candidates except Kerry to withdraw. That should
include Bush too, of course. If there is more than one candidate, the
horror of 2000 may be repeated! More than one candidate means
vote-stealing, reactionary advertising campaigns, the possibility of
Republican and Green and socialist candidates, and unpredictable
outcomes. The good candidate may not win.
The stream of abuse at Nader, a man who has toiled unceasingly for the
public good for half a century has been childishly vulgar and vitriolic.
Nader is a faded chanteuse in a dingy nightclub, wrote Robert Scheer
venerable liberal pundit for the Los Angeles Times. He should know. If
Nader had an ounce of principle, railed Bruce Jackson, distinguished
professor of culture at the University of Buffalo here on the
CounterPunch site, he'd go sit on the capitol steps, douse himself with
gasoline and exit this world of imperfect humanity in a blaze of
protesting glory. He could even wear a monkish robe.
What has Nader done since 2000, asked Scheer scornfully, albeit
stupidly. As Jim Ridgeway points out in the Village Voice, It's been
Nader and his groups, not the Democrats, who've spearheaded universal
health care ever since Hillary Clinton botched the chance for health
reform in the early 90s. It's been Nader and his troops who've kept the
searchlight on corporate crime, who raised the hue and cry on Enron,
when Democrats were smoothing the counterpane for Lay in the Lincoln
Bedroom.
From the point of view of democracy, the American political system is a
shambles of corruption, gerrymandered to ensure that it is almost
impossible to evict any sitting member of the House of Representatives.
The presidential debates are fixed to exclude unwelcome intruders. Nader
says that in the whole of his 2000 challenge he got about 3 minutes
face-time on the major networks.
You can understand why the two major parties don't want any outsider
spoiling the fun. They arranged things that way, as Nader understands,
and explains better than anyone.
I think the mistake the Democrats are making said Nader at the
National Press Club on Monday  when they use the mantra 'anybody but
Bush' is, first of all, it closes their mind to any alternative
strategies or any creative thinking, which is not good for a political
party. And second, it gives their ultimate nominee no mandate, no
constituency, no policies, if the ultimate nominee goes into the White
House.
And then they'll be back to us. I guarantee you the
Democrats, the liberal groups, the liberal intelligentsia, the civic
groups that are now whining and complaining, even though they know
they're being shut out increasingly, year after year, from trying to
improve their country when they go to work every day. And they'll be
saying, 'Oh, you can't believe -- we were betrayed. The Democrats are
succumbing to the corporate interests in the environment, consumer
protection.'
How many cycles do we have to go through here? How long is the learning
curve before we recognize that political parties are the problem?
They're the problem! They're the ones who have turned our government
over to the corporations, so they can say no to universal health
insurance and no to a living wage and no to environmental sanity and no
to renewable energy and no to a whole range of issues that corporations
were never allowed to say no to 30, 40, 50 years ago. Things really have
changed.
Nader's seen it happen time and again. Bold promises from a Democratic
candidate, followed by ignominious collapse. And each time the promises
are vaguer, more timid. Each time the whole system tilts further in the
direction of corporate power. Nader is saying that the Democrats are so
hopelessly compromised that they don't know how to energize people to
get them into the polling booths to vote against Bush. So he's going to
lend a hand. Nader can be the candidate denouncing the war that Bush
started and Kerry voted 

Facing South

2004-02-25 Thread Michael Hoover
F A C I N G   S O U T H
A progressive Southern news report
February 6, 2004 - Issue 71
  _
INSTITUTE INDEX - Bowl Barings
Seconds that Janet Jackson's breast was exposed during Super Bowl
halftime show: 2
Rank of Janet Jackson boob among most-searched words in internet
history: 1
Value of personal injury a Tennessee woman says she suffered from the
incident: $75,000
Number of co-defendants she seeks for her lawsuit, in millions: 80
Percent of Canadians who say they are unconcerned by the incident:
80
Cost of advertising during Super Bowl, per second: $75,000
Cost of spending in George Bush's proposed 2005 budget, per second:
$73,300

Sources on file at the Institute for Southern Studies.
  _
DATELINE: THE SOUTH - Top Stories Around the Region

EDWARDS TO STICK WITH SOUTHERN STRATEGY
Embracing the strategy that led to victory in South Carolina,
Democratic presidential hopeful John Edwards is claiming that trade
agreements have eliminated jobs for working-class Americans, Edwards is
hoping the same recipe he used to win South Carolina -- a dash of
Southern charm combined with the promise to protect blue-collar jobs -
resonates in Tennessee and Virginia. (Associated Press,
2/5)http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/politics/7875982.htm

BUSH MILITARY RECORD COMES UNDER FIRE
Although first raised before the 2000 presidential election, charges
that President Bush skipped out on an Alabama National Guard assignment
in 1972-1973 are gaining traction in this year's election coverage. The
Boston Globe, which first covered the story, reviews the evidence.
(Boston Globe, 2/4)
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/bush/articles/2004/02/05/bushs_guard_service_what_the_record_shows/


HALLIBURTON FACES SECOND PROBE OVER DEALS IN 1990s
The Justice Department has opened an inquiry into whether Halliburton
Co. was involved in the payment of $180 million in possible kickbacks to
obtain contracts to build a natural gas plant in Nigeria during the late
1990's, when Vice President Dick Cheney was chairman of the company.
(Newsweek, 2/5)
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0204-11.htm

PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES QUIET ABOUT GAY ISSUES IN SOUTH
As Democrats fight over key contests in Tennessee, Virginia, and
elsewhere in the South, experts agree that voters won't hear much about
gay issues, except the lead candidates' common opposition to gay
marriage. (Southern Voice, 2/6)
http://www.southernvoice.com/2004/2-6/news/national/canidatesshush.cfm


JUSTICE WITHELD
In a major investigation, the Miami Herald finds that nearly one out of
three felons in Florida avoided convictions because of a special plea
bargaining tool. White felons are significantly more likely to have
their convictions set aside than blacks charged with the same crime.
(Miami Herald, 1/25-28)
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/7788988.htm

LANDMARK ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM CASE REMEDIED IN NORTH CAROLINA
In a case that many say was the birth of the environmental justice
movement, residents of  predominately black Warren County, North
Carolina have scored an important victory over a 142-acre toxic waste
dump. Yet activists say the remedy falls short, and the community
deserves reparations for what they've endured. (Environmental Justice
Resource Center, 1/12) http://www.ejrc.cau.edu/warren%20county%20rdb.htm


TENNESSEE WOMAN SUES OVER SUPER BOWL BREAST INJURY
A woman in Tennessee has filed a lawsuit demanding billions of dollars
in compensation for serious injury suffered when Janet Jackson exposed
her breast at the Super Bowl. Bank worker Terri Carlin is demanding
compensation for herself and millions of other viewers who saw the
shocking moment last Sunday. (PA News, 2/6)
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2499689


Facing South Too

2004-02-25 Thread Michael Hoover
F A C I N G   S O U T H
A progressive Southern news report
February 17, 2004 - Issue 72

INSTITUTE INDEX - To Our Health
Percent of U.S. residents who rank health care as one of their top
issues: 82
Number of people in U.S. without health insurance, in millions: 43.6
Percent of personal bankruptcies due in part to medical expenses: 50
Amount by which President's budget cuts Medicaid over 10 years, in
billions: $16
Amount his Medicaid plan will increase drug company profits, in
billions: $139
Percent of health care costs that go to administrative overhead in
private insurance: 11.7
Percent for administrative overhead in the Medicaid program: 3.6
Percent for administrative overhead in Canada's national health system:
1.3
Number of times a December government report mentioned racial health
disparities: 30
Number of times it mentioned this after being edited by Bush
officials: 2

Sources on file at the Institute for Southern Studies.
  _
DATELINE: THE SOUTH - Top Stories Around the Region

SOUTH-LESS WIN CALLED POSSIBLE FOR DEMOCRATS
With a Senator from Massachusetts now the Democratic presidential
front-runner, Democrats are increasingly mulling a strategy that
bypasses the South on the road to the White House in 2004. (Atlanta
Journal-Constitution, 2/9)
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/election/0204nation/10dems.html

EX-HALLIBURTON EMPLOYEES SAY OVERCHARGES ARE ROUTINE
Two former Halliburton Co. employees are accusing the Houston firm of
routinely overcharging American taxpayers for work performed under a
military contract. Halliburton selected embroidered towels when ordinary
ones would have cost a third as much, and leased cars, trucks, SUVS, and
vans for up $7,500 a month, the whistleblowers said. (Houston Chronicle,
2/12)
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/business/2399777

TEXAS NO LONGER DEATH PENALTY LEADER
Texas has a reputation for being the Death State, and it still has
the highest number of executions. But a new study shows that the state
is less likely than some other states to sentence convicted murderers to
death. (Associated Press, 2/15)
http://www.news8austin.com/content/headlines/?ArID=98007SecID=2

PEACE ACTIVISTS PLAN SOUTHERN MARCH ON FAYETTEVILLE
March 20 has been called as an international Global Day of Actino
Against War and Occupation. In the South, a broad range of groups will
be converging on Fayetteville, North Carolina -- home of Fort Bragg, one
of the largest military bases in the United States. (NC Peace Hub)
http://www.ncpeacehub.org/M20Fayetteville/

SOUTHERN GOVERNORS DECLARE WAR ON DIVORCE
Four of the five states with the highest resident divorce rates in the
country are in the Deep South, where families pray together but,
apparently, can't stay together. The Governors of Arkansas and Oklahoma
are making it a campaign issue. (Salon, 1/24)
http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/2000/01/24/divorce/

CRITICS CHALLENGE TOUCH-SCREEN VOTING IN GA
As election officials prepare 28,000 machines for Georgia's March 2
presidential primary, accusations that they can be rigged have put the
state's top election official on the defensive. (Atlanta
Journal-Constitution, 2/14)
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/0204/15voting.html

WEBSITE HONORS AFRICAN AMERICANS IN SPANISH CIVIL WAR
Before World War II, nearly 3,000 Americans joined tens of thousands of
international volunteers to defend the Spanish government from a fascist
take-over. Included were a small group of African Americans, whose story
is remembered in a multi-media educational program now online. (ALBA,
2/8)
http://www.alba-valb.org/curriculum/index.php?module=2


Re: less support for free trade

2004-02-25 Thread David B. Shemano
Michael Perelman writes:

 I got this from the right wing Marginal Revolution web site.

 High-income Americans have lost much of their enthusiasm for free trade as they
 perceive their own jobs threatened by white-collar workers in China, India and 
 otonal
 trade.

Why is this surprising, or even noteworthy?  Doesn't everybody believe in free trade 
for other people and protectionism for themselves?

David Shemano


Re: demo fervor

2004-02-25 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/23/04 09:20PM 
Maybe I was not clear.  If the Repubs. were clear about what they were,
no working
class people would vote for them.  In fact, many do, including union
workers.
Michael Perelman

although union members are more likely to identify themselves as dems
than reps and labor organizations are more likely to support dem
candidates, republicans have captured more than 33% of votes from union
households in 10 of last 13 prez elections...   michael hoover

union households voting rep  for prez
52/eisenhower 44%
56/eisenhower 57%
60/nixon 36%
64/Goldwater 17%
68/nixon 44%
72/nixon 57%
76/ford 36%
80/reagan 45%
84/reagan 43%
88/bush 41%
92/bush 32%
96 dole 30%
00 bush 37%


Treacherous bastards

2004-02-25 Thread Louis Proyect
Counterpunch, February 25, 2004

Treacherous Bastards
The Greens and the Dems and Nader
By BRUCE ANDERSON
We have one national political figure in this country of undoubted
integrity and what does he get from this nation of ingrates? Accusations
of spoiler and ego-maniac. Naturally the Greens joined the din
denouncing Ralph, not mentioning that their pot-addled, dithering
leadership won't even convene until June, way too late in the process
to try to put forward a presidential candidate. If it weren't for Nader,
Pete Camejo and Matt Gonzales, the lamebrain Greens would still be
invisible.
Treacherous bastards, these Greens and, in the crunch, not standing for
a goddam thing except the two party, corporate dictatorship. Did Ralph
keep Gore out of the White House? No. Gore and the rancid Democratic
Party kept Gore out of the White House. Will Ralph take enough Democrat
votes from Kerry to keep Bush in the White House for four more
catastrophic years? Only Kerry and the Democrats can lose to Bush, not
Ralph.
So here's what's going to happen: Kucinich, the only plausible Democrat
from any kind of progressive perspective, won't even get his intense
little mug on national tv at the Democratic convention in late July.
Just as Den-Den comes on the networks will cut away for commercials and
commentary from George Will and Bill O'Reilly.
Then, when the assembled mob of suburban warm-fuzzies who comprise the
party's base erupts in a sea of placards made in China, heaving their
smug selves up out of their seats for Korporate Kerry, Kucinich,
Sharpton, Dean, and the rest of them will gather on stage for a great
big group hug to a 30-minute ovation from limo labor, ethnic demagogues,
gays in wedding gowns, three people in wheelchairs, and a hundred fatsos
in public ed t-shirts.
By August 1st, Ralph will be the only guy out there pushing the
Democrats to stand for all the things they stood for under FDR, and all
of us who want an economy run for the people who comprise it will again
be out in the political cold. The Democrats, just like Gore four years
ago, standing for nothing but Bush Lite, will again lose to the worst
president in the history of the country.
Bruce Anderson is the publisher of the Anderson Valley Advertiser,
America's best newspaper.
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Re: FW: Things you don't want to know

2004-02-25 Thread joanna bujes
God, this is SO American!

Life is dirty. Enjoy!

Joanna


Norman Solomon versus Peter Camejo

2004-02-25 Thread Louis Proyect
Jon Flanders posted a link to a debate between Norman Solomon and Peter
Camejo about the 2004 elections. Unfortunately it didn't point to the
correct page. If you go to http://leftcoastradio.org/, you will find the
proper link.
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Mel Gibson and Opus Dei

2004-02-25 Thread Craven, Jim
Title: Message



Here are some links 
on Gibson's relationship with Opus Dei an ultra-rightist cult inside the 
Catholic Church--Skull and Bones of the Catholic Church. At one prominent Opus 
Day church in Virginia, the membership included Scalia, Thomas, Louis Freeh and 
Robert Hanssen (the FBI master spy). This cult, founded by an outright fascist 
priest Josemaria Escriva de Balaguer, favored by JP II, is an extremely well 
connected and very fascist network. Part of their rituals, involves, every week, 
putting a belt with spikes around the legs to inflict pain--there is a strong S 
 M/Bondage element in all of their rituals.

http://www.odan.org/


Here is Mr. "Super 
Christian/Catholic" Gibson in action in part of an interview for 
Playboy:



PLAYBOY: We take it that you're not particularly broad-minded when it comes 
to issues such as celibacy, abortion, birth control --
GIBSON: People always focus on stuff like that. Those aren't issues. Those 
are unquestionable. You don't even argue those points.
PLAYBOY: You don't?
GIBSON: No.
PLAYBOY: What about allowing women to be priests?
GIBSON: No.
PLAYBOY: Why not?
GIBSON: I'll get kicked around for saying it, but men and women are just 
different. They're not equal. The same way that you and I are not equal.
PLAYBOY: That's true. You have more money.
GIBSON: You might be more intelligent, or you might have a bigger dick. 
Whatever it is, nobody's equal. And men and women are not equal. I have 
tremendous respect for women. I love them. I don't know why they want to step 
down. Women in my family are the center of things. An good things emanate from 
them. The guys usually mess up.
PLAYBOY: That's quite a generalization.
GIBSON: Women are just different. Their sensibilities are different.
PLAYBOY: Any examples?
GIBSON: I had a female business partner once. Didn't work.
PLAYBOY: Why not?
GIBSON: She was a cunt.
PLAYBOY: And the feminists dare to put you down!
GIBSON: Feminists don't like me, and I don't like them. I don't get their 
point. I don't know why feminists have it out for me, but that's their problem, 
not mine.
[...]
PLAYBOY: How do you feel about Bill Clinton?
GIBSON: He's a low-level opportunist. Somebody's telling him what to do.
PLAYBOY: Who?
GIBSON: The guy who's in charge isn't going to be the front man, ever. If I 
were going to be calling the shots I wouldn't make an appearance. Would you? 
You'd end up losing your head. It happens all the time. All those monarchs. 
Ifhe's the leader, he's getting shafted. What's keeping him in there? Why would 
you stay for that kind of abuse? Except that he has to stay for some reason. He 
was meant to be the president 30 years ago, if you ask me.
PLAYBOY: He was just 18 then.
GIBSON: Somebody knew then that he would be president now.
PLAYBOY: You really believe that?
GIBSON: I really believe that. He was a Rhodes scholar, right? Just like Bob 
Hawke. Do you know what a Rhodes scholar is? Cecil Rhodes established the Rhodes 
scholarship for those young men and women who want to strive for a new world 
order. Have you heard that before? George Bush? CIA? Really, it's Marxism, but 
it just doesn't want to call itself that. Karl had the right idea, but he was 
too forward about saying what it was. Get power but don't admit to it. Do it by 
stealth. There's a whole trend of Rhodes scholars who will be politicians around 
the world.
PLAYBOY: This certainly sounds like a paranoid sense of world history. You 
must be quite an assassination buff.
GIBSON: Oh, fuck. A lot of those guys pulled a boner. There's something to do 
with the Federal Reserve that Lincoln did, Kennedy did and Reagan tried. I can't 
remember what it was, my dad told me about it. Everyone who did this particular 
thing that would have fixed the economy got undone. Anyway, I'll end up dead if 
I keep talking shit.
(By the way, both of Gibson's parents are Holocaust 
deniers.)

James M. Craven
Blackfoot Name: Omahkohkiaayo-i'poyi
Professor/Consultant,Economics;Business 
Division Chair
Clark College, 1800 E. McLoughlin 
Blvd.
Vancouver, WA. USA 98663
Tel: (360) 992-2283; Fax: (360) 
992-2863
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association with private/protected opinion
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controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past." (George 
Orwell)
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results which are first to be proved seems disturbing to me...(Karl Marx, 
"Grundrisse")
FREE LEONARD 
PELTIER!!




Re: FW: Things you don't want to know

2004-02-25 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Title: Message




Israel Closes Investigation into Rachel Corrie's Death
Call for Independent 
U.S. 
Investigation into American's Death

The Issue
On 
March 16, 
2003, American Rachel 
Corrie was killed by an Israeli bulldozer as she was attempting to stop 
the destruction of a Palestinian home in Rafah. We, along with a coalition of groups 
from around the country, ask you to call, email and fax your members of Congress 
to try and increase visibility and support for H. Con. 
Res. 111 which calls for an independent 
U.S. 
investigation into Rachel Corrie's death. 
Help make this campaign a success!
Since 
the resolution was introduced on March 25th, H. Con. 
Res. 111 by Brian Baird (D-WA) has gained 42 co-sponsors and has been referred 
to the House Subcommittee on the Middle 
East. 
Support for this resolution is needed now more 
than ever. On June 26, the Israeli 
government closed the investigation and absolved the bulldozer driver of 
wrongdoing. Although the Israeli 
government autopsy report gives the cause of death as "pressure on the chest 
(from a mechanical apparatus)," the Israeli government continues to claim that 
Rachel was killed by dirt or concrete pushed by the bulldozer while the driver 
claims not even to have seen her. 
This makes an independent U.S. 
investigation all the more important. 

What You Can Do:
1) 
Please call, e-mail and fax your members of Congress and urge their support for 
H. Con. Res. 111. Together, with our coalition, this bill will gain the 
visibility it deserves so that it will pass and acknowledge the non-violent 
efforts of an extraordinary woman who was simply trying to make this world a 
better place. 
--To 
contact your members go to http://capwiz.com/arab/mail/oneclick_compose/?alertid=2737291
and enter your 
contact information.
2) Please contact Secretary of State, 
Colin Powell, and urge him to pursue an independent 
U.S. 
investigation into Rachel Corrie's death.
3) Please contact the 
US 
Ambassador to Israel, 
Daniel Kurtzer, and urge the US embassy 
to support an independent US 
investigation into Rachel's death. 


--To 
contact Secretary Powell and Ambassador Kurtzer go to 
http://capwiz.com/arab/mail/oneclick_compose/?alertid=2737276 and enter your 
contact information.

INTERNATIONAL SOLIDARITY MOVEMENT 
www.palsolidarity.org

Source: http://www.coalitionofwomen4peace.org/others/rachelcorrie.htm


Re: demo fervor

2004-02-25 Thread Mike Ballard
Here's a note from a friend of mine.

Cheers,
Mike B)

*

The Bush economic team is apparently at a loss on how
to stop the erosion of US manufacturing jobs.  (I
think every monthly employment report for more
than 40 consecutive months has shown declining
manufacturing employment.)
Their latest idea: the most recent Economic Report of
the President questions whether fast-food restaurants
should continue to be counted as part of the service
sector or should now be reclassified as
manufacturers.

Here's a response from one Midwestern legislator.

-Original Message-

A letter sent from Rep. John Dingell (D-MI) to Council
of Economic Advisors Chairman Greg Mankiw.

No, this is not a parody.  Here's the actual letter:


http://www.house.gov/dingell/Manufacturing_letter_02-23-04.pdf

**

Dr. Gregory Mankiw
Chairman, Council of Economic Advisers
Executive Office of the President
Washington, DC 20502

Dear Dr. Mankiw

I noticed in the recently released Economic Report of
the President that there was some consternation in the
defining of manufacturing. It could be inferred from
your report that the administration is willing to
recognize drink mixing, hamburger garnishing,
French/freedom fry cooking, and milk shake mixing to
be vital components of our manufacturing sector.

I am sure the 163,000 factory workers who have lost
their jobs in Michigan will find it heartening to know
that a world of opportunity awaits them in high growth
manufacturing careers like spatula operator, napkin
restocking, and lunch tray removal. I do have some
questions of this new policy and I hope you will help
me provide answers for my constituents:

- Will federal student loans and Trade Adjustment
Assistance grants be applied to tuition costs at
Burger College?

- Will the administration commit to allowing the
Manufacturing Extension Partnership (MEP) to fund
cutting edge burger research such as new
nugget ingredients or keeping the hot and cold sides
of burgers separate until consumption?

- Will special sauce now be counted as a durable good?

- Do you want fries with that?

Finally, at a speech he gave in Michigan this past
September, Secretary Evans announced the creation of a
new Assistant Secretary for Manufacturing.
While I understand that it takes a while to find the
right candidate to fill these positions, I am
concerned that five months after the announcement no
Assistant Secretary has yet been named. I do, however,
know of a public official who would be perfect for the
job. He has over thirty years of administrative and
media experience, has a remarkable record of working
with diverse constituencies, and is extraordinarily
well qualified to understand this emerging
manufacturing sector: the Hon. Mayor McCheese.

With every good wish,
Sincerely,
John D. Dingell

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your imagination is out of focus.
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Re: demo fervor

2004-02-25 Thread Doug Henwood
Mike Ballard wrote:

(I
think every monthly employment report for more
than 40 consecutive months has shown declining
manufacturing employment.)
42, actually.

Doug


Re: Democratic Party?

2004-02-25 Thread dmschanoes
Please tell me how either Bush moved to the left to win a nomination and
then moved left again to win an election, ignoring for the moment, the
self-contradiction between your first paragraph Bush was not elected, and
your description of how both Bush's won their elections.

dms


- Original Message -
From: Robert Scott Gassler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
George W. Bush in the 2000 election.

George W. Bush was not elected in 2000. Gore was. Bush took the presidency
 using his family friends in the Supreme Court.

 Both Bushes did the same thing on the right to get elected: they
pretended
 to be more right-wing than they really were, then moved to the left to get
 the nomination, and further to the left to win the election. That's the
way
 elections are won. Once in power however, Bush Jr moved back to his core
 constituency and is right-wing again. Kerry could do the same.


Re: demo fervor

2004-02-25 Thread dmschanoes
But the trend since 1980 has been pretty consistenly down.  And the trend is
your friend.


- Original Message -
From: Michael Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 although union members are more likely to identify themselves as dems
 than reps and labor organizations are more likely to support dem
 candidates, republicans have captured more than 33% of votes from union
 households in 10 of last 13 prez elections...   michael hoover

 union households voting rep  for prez
 52/eisenhower 44%
 56/eisenhower 57%
 60/nixon 36%
 64/Goldwater 17%
 68/nixon 44%
 72/nixon 57%
 76/ford 36%
 80/reagan 45%
 84/reagan 43%
 88/bush 41%
 92/bush 32%
 96 dole 30%
 00 bush 37%



Re: demo fervor

2004-02-25 Thread Sabri Oncu
dms:

 But the trend since 1980 has been pretty
 consistenly down.  And the trend is your
 friend.

But that data are clearly heteroskedastic. You cannot
reach a conclusion like that about the trend since
1980 just by eyeballing.

Best,

Sabri


Re: demo fervor

2004-02-25 Thread Carrol Cox
Sabri Oncu wrote:

  heteroskedastic.

WHAT???

Carrol


Greenspan on Social Security

2004-02-25 Thread Michael Perelman
Is Greenspan working for the Dems.?  Make the tax cuts permanent, cut social security
to make the economy grow faster.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu


Our leaders are really smart

2004-02-25 Thread michael
Some times we think of your leaders as being stupid.  Some people have
even questioned our president's intelligence.  Look how smart senators
are even though economists believed that it was impossible to beat the
market.

Senators' Stocks Beat the Market by 12 Percent By FT.COM

Published: February 24, 2004

US senators' personal stock portfolios outperformed the market by an
average of 12 per cent a year in the five years to 1998, according to a
new study.

The results clearly support the notion that members of the Senate trade
with a substantial informational advantage over ordinary investors,
says the author of the report, Professor Alan Ziobrowski of the Robinson
College of Business at Georgia State University.

He admits to being very surprised by his findings, which were based on
6,000 financial disclosure filings and are due to be published in the
Journal of Financial and Quantitative Analysis.

The results suggest that senators knew when to buy their common stocks
and when to sell.

First-time Senators did especially well, with their stocks outperforming
by 20 per cent a year on average - a result that very few professional
fund managers would be able to achieve.

It could be argued that the junior senators most recently came out of
private industry, so may have better connections. Seniority was
definitely a factor in returns, says Prof Ziobrowski.

There was no difference in performance between Democrats and
Republicans.

A separate study in 2000, covering 66,465 US households from 1991 to
1996 showed that the average household's portfolio underperformed the
market by 1.44 per cent a year, on average. Corporate insiders (defined
as senior executives) usually outperform by about 5 per cent.

The Ziobrowski study notes that the politicians' timing of transactions
is uncanny. Most stocks bought by senators had shown little movement
before the purchase. But after the stock was bought, it outperformed the
market by 28.6 per cent on average in the following calender year.

Returns on sell transactions are equally intriguing. Stocks sold by
senators performed in line with the market the year following the sale.

When adjusted by the size of stocks, the total portfolio returns
outperformed by 12 per cent a year on average. The study used a total
market index as the benchmark for comparison.

The study took eight years to complete because there was no database of
information and the documents had to be gathered and examined manually.
Stocks held in blind trusts are not included in the disclosure
documents.


--

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Economics Department
California State University
michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901


Re: the free trade/protectionism debate - let's not dumb down

2004-02-25 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
In order for the argument that American jobs are taken away by foreigners
to be at all credible, it must first be proved:

(1) the same jobs producing the same output, which were previously performed
by Americans, are now being done by foreign workers offshore, in the same
proportion;

(2) that Americans actually wanted to do those jobs, or were prepared to do
them;

(3) that it would be practically feasible to do those jobs in the USA, under
the given conditions.

Undoubtedly this is the case for a portion of jobs lost to the USA. But for
many other jobs this is simply not true, because:

(1) If an employer closes down a plant in the USA, and opens up a new plant
overseas with a different production technique or a different output, then
it is silly nonsense to say American jobs are taken away by foreigners,
and it ignores who is actually taking those jobs away, namely American
employers and American investors. After all, it is American investors and
employers who decide to hire workers in the USA or overseas; it is not as
though greedy workers offshore are grabbing or stealing employment
opportunities from American workers. They are in no position to do so, they
can only respond to employment opportunities which are actually being
offered where they are.

(2) many new so-called outsourced foreign jobs, performed by workers
offshore for American employers, do not represent the substitution of an
American job by a foreign job at all, but rather the creation of a new and
different job by an American employer offshore, reflecting an investment
decision that overall production costs are cheaper offshore. In other words,
in considering whether to hire new employees in the USA or offshore, the
employer decides for economic reasons to hire offshore. The managerial,
financial and marketing functions might be sited in the USA, whereas the
actual product is made overseas.

(3) Production outsourced by American employers to foreign countries very
often involves getting less foreign workers to produce a larger output than
was made previously within the USA, and so, it is not as though enormous
amounts of new jobs are being created in foreign countries as a result of
outsourcing anyway. If an American employer previously used 2,000 American
workers to produce an output worth $400 million and then uses 1,500 foreign
workers to produce an output worth $500 million, it's pretty silly to talk
about foreign workers stealing American jobs.

The notion of foreign workers stealing American jobs is faulty because:

(1) while blaming the working class as per usual, it fails to explain
exactly how foreign workers could possibly steal American employment in
the first place,

(2) it conveniently ignores that the decision to reduce employment levels in
the USA, is made by American employers and investors, and not by American
workers, who are just looking for a job where they are, because they have no
other way to survive, and cannot easily move somewhere else.

(3) the same American people who argue foreign workers stealing American
jobs, are quite happy to consume competitively priced products imported
from overseas, and in many cases could neither do otherwise, nor stay within
their budget, without purchasing foreign-made products.

Thus, in reality, the argument that American jobs are taken away by
foreigners is just imperialist jingoism, the logical endpoint of which is
that American workers, uniformed and in civvies, are send to Iraq at the
risk of dying, to grab oil resources to fuel American cars, even although
they could quite easily negotiate to get oil from other sources if required.

Taking 2002 data, the total dollar value of goods imported into the USA for
actual use within the USA (i.e. not re-exported) was about $1.1 trillion.
But only about 40% of that total dollar value of imported goods used in the
USA consisted of ordinary consumer goods used by households, and of all
consumer goods and services imported, at least 10-15% consisted purely of
luxury consumption goods, i.e. things like jewellery, trinkets, antiques,
numismatic coins, works of art, gold, luxury cars, luxury clothing, luxury
furnishings, pleasurecraft, luxury cars, personal aircraft and so on. Then
you must conclude that out of the total dollar value of all goods imported
into the USA, only a third refers to ordinary consumer durable and
perishable goods, representing 10% of the value of all consumer goods bought
by Americans each year. Out of the total dollar value of all goods and
services imported into the USA, only a quarter consists of ordinary consumer
durables and perishables.

If you are not lazy, and you are prepared to do some research into real
American working-class consumer expenditure, then you would conclude, that
foreign goods and services they buy, comprise only a very small portion of
their wages, and the only big ticket foreign durables in their budget, are
foreign-made cars and foreign-made personal computers. (If you actually look

Re: demo fervor

2004-02-25 Thread dmschanoes
1.  Heteroskedastic?  What is that? Not in my concise OED.

2.  If we can't reach a conclusion about a trend since 1980 then we can't
reacch any conclusion period about the degree, the change in the degreee, of
union household affinity for the Republican Party, and the whole discussion
is pointless.
3. Number 2 above is exactly the point.
4. So let's just disregard the statistical obscurantism in favor of an
historical analysis: In the US, as in all bourgeois societies, the ruling
class is able to win and maintain the allegiance of some elements of all
other classes, including the working class.  This historical conditions
exists not to be interpreted, but to be change.

 Pleasure,
dms
- Original Message -
From: Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] demo fervor


 dms:

  But the trend since 1980 has been pretty
  consistenly down.  And the trend is your
  friend.

 But that data are clearly heteroskedastic. You cannot
 reach a conclusion like that about the trend since
 1980 just by eyeballing.

 Best,

 Sabri



Re: Greenspan on Social Security

2004-02-25 Thread dmschanoes
All you need to know about Greenspan is that he's the guy who wrote a letter
of recommendation to the Federal Home Loan Banking Board (remember them?
regulated the SLs pre Reconstruction Finance Fiasco) to get Charles Keating
the charter for Lincoln Savings and Loan.

Guy's got the integrity and spine of a tapeworm.

dms
- Original Message -
From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:09 PM
Subject: [PEN-L] Greenspan on Social Security


 Is Greenspan working for the Dems.?  Make the tax cuts permanent, cut
social security
 to make the economy grow faster.
 --
 Michael Perelman
 Economics Department
 California State University
 Chico, CA 95929

 Tel. 530-898-5321
 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu



Re: Greenspan on Social Security

2004-02-25 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Seems like it. Greenspan said the USA can't afford the retirement benefits
promised to baby boomers and urged Congress to trim them. This is a cohort
theory of perpetuating capitalism, according to which what you deserve
depends on your age, and if by a ceryain age you haven't got the cash
together, then you don't deserve social assistance. With this new allocation
principle, you can of course rip off a whole bunch of new people. If you
have to drastically cut expenditures, then a whole new ideology has to be
developed to justify who deserves what.

In 2002, the US benefit figures were as follows:

Old-age/survivors/disability/health insurance benefit $710 billion
Government unemployment insurance benefit  $53 billion
Veterans benefits $30 billion
Family assistance benefit $20 billion

That's a total of $813 billion, or about 8% of the total personal income
received by all Americans (only about half of that total personal income is
wages and salaries).

You cannot actually cut those benefits very much, so the revenue gain is not
actually very great, but the advantage is, that many of those people are in
a weaker position, and so you can attack them, without them being able to do
very much about it.

But it doesn't solve much as regards balancing government budgets. What they
should do first of all, is drastically rationalise and reduce military
spending.

I think Greenspan possibly argues that many baby-boomer retirees are wealthy
anyhow, and thus not deserving social assistance to which they are entitled,
but a closer look at the facts would show this has very limited validity.

Basically the bourgeoisie is telling the working class to go whoring,
instead of receive social assistance benefits for which they were previously
taxed by their own elected government.

But if you are a pensioner, then you are unlikely to want to go whoring, if
anything the probability is greater that you'd be buying sexual services.
The real question then is, why should the bourgeois elite get it for free ?

Greenspan's new deregulation argument is a bit like depositing money in a
bank, and then later the bank manager says instead of paying you interest
on your deposit, I am deducting interest from your deposit, and if you
protest, you won't get your deposit back at all.

Jurriaan


Re: demo fervor

2004-02-25 Thread David B. Shemano
Since you are talking about union member affinity for the Republican party, how about 
considering the fact that a growing percentage of present day union members are 
actually government employees.  I am willing to bet that they skew significantly more 
Democratic than the union members working in the private sector, and that explains why 
the percentage of union members voting Democratic has grown.  And what are the 
implications of that reality for Left theory?

David Shemano



--- Original Message---
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: dmschanoes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent:  2/25/2004  6:41PM
 Subject: Re: [PEN-L] demo fervor

 1.  Heteroskedastic?  What is that? Not in my concise OED.

 2.  If we can't reach a conclusion about a trend since 1980 then we can't
 reacch any conclusion period about the degree, the change in the degreee, of
 union household affinity for the Republican Party, and the whole discussion
 is pointless.
 3. Number 2 above is exactly the point.
 4. So let's just disregard the statistical obscurantism in favor of an
 historical analysis: In the US, as in all bourgeois societies, the ruling
 class is able to win and maintain the allegiance of some elements of all
 other classes, including the working class.  This historical conditions
 exists not to be interpreted, but to be change.

  Pleasure,
 dms
 - Original Message -
 From: Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [PEN-L] demo fervor


  dms:
 
   But the trend since 1980 has been pretty
   consistenly down.  And the trend is your
   friend.
 
  But that data are clearly heteroskedastic. You cannot
  reach a conclusion like that about the trend since
  1980 just by eyeballing.
 
  Best,
 
  Sabri
 




Re: Our leaders are really smart

2004-02-25 Thread Ralph Johansen
...members of the Senate trade
 with a substantial informational advantage over ordinary investors,

I don't know whether this tale of a senator is known to others. I remember
meeting the Tennessee populist Senator Estes Kefauver on a downtown
Minneapolis street corner during his run for the presidency. He had on a
broad plaid suit and a coonskin cap. He was very tall. He grabbed my hand
and shook it and said simply,  Hi, I'm Estes Kefauver. Vote for me for
president. Sometime after that, he held pharmaceuticals hearings in the
Senate, in which witness after witness detailed the rip-off practices of the
drug industry and how it hurt the poor, halt and ailing. Kefauver was shown
on TV shaking his head and expressing outrage, while he led the fight for
stringent regulation. Then in the midst of the hearings he died. When they
opened his portfolio at probate, it was loaded with pharmaceuticals stocks.
It was an eye-opening lesson for this gulled young constituent

Ralph

--- Original Message -
From: michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 4:23 PM
Subject: Our leaders are really smart


 Some times we think of your leaders as being stupid.  Some people have
 even questioned our president's intelligence.  Look how smart senators
 are even though economists believed that it was impossible to beat the
 market.

 Senators' Stocks Beat the Market by 12 Percent By FT.COM

 Published: February 24, 2004

 US senators' personal stock portfolios outperformed the market by an
 average of 12 per cent a year in the five years to 1998, according to a
 new study.

 The results clearly support the notion that members of the Senate trade
 with a substantial informational advantage over ordinary investors,
 says the author of the report, Professor Alan Ziobrowski of the Robinson
 College of Business at Georgia State University.

 He admits to being very surprised by his findings, which were based on
 6,000 financial disclosure filings and are due to be published in the
 Journal of Financial and Quantitative Analysis.

 The results suggest that senators knew when to buy their common stocks
 and when to sell.

 First-time Senators did especially well, with their stocks outperforming
 by 20 per cent a year on average - a result that very few professional
 fund managers would be able to achieve.

 It could be argued that the junior senators most recently came out of
 private industry, so may have better connections. Seniority was
 definitely a factor in returns, says Prof Ziobrowski.

 There was no difference in performance between Democrats and
 Republicans.

 A separate study in 2000, covering 66,465 US households from 1991 to
 1996 showed that the average household's portfolio underperformed the
 market by 1.44 per cent a year, on average. Corporate insiders (defined
 as senior executives) usually outperform by about 5 per cent.

 The Ziobrowski study notes that the politicians' timing of transactions
 is uncanny. Most stocks bought by senators had shown little movement
 before the purchase. But after the stock was bought, it outperformed the
 market by 28.6 per cent on average in the following calender year.

 Returns on sell transactions are equally intriguing. Stocks sold by
 senators performed in line with the market the year following the sale.

 When adjusted by the size of stocks, the total portfolio returns
 outperformed by 12 per cent a year on average. The study used a total
 market index as the benchmark for comparison.

 The study took eight years to complete because there was no database of
 information and the documents had to be gathered and examined manually.
 Stocks held in blind trusts are not included in the disclosure
 documents.


 --

 Michael Perelman
 Economics Department
 California State University
 michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
 Chico, CA 95929
 530-898-5321
 fax 530-898-5901


Re: demo fervor

2004-02-25 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
 Since you are talking about union member affinity for the Republican
party, how about considering the fact that a growing percentage of present
day union members are actually government employees.  I am willing to bet
that they skew significantly more Democratic than the union members working
in the private sector, and that explains why the percentage of union members
voting Democratic has grown.  And what are the implications of that reality
for Left theory?

In the USA, agriculture and related industries have the lowest unionization
rate - 1.6 percent. Unionisation as such is lowest in North Carolina and
South Carolina.

According to the Bureau of labor Statistics, nearly 4 in 10 US government
workers are union members, compared with less than 1 in 10 workers in
private-sector industries.Of the 1.7 million wage and salary workers
represented by a union on their main job, while not being union members
themselves, about half were employed in government. Ten percent of unionised
workers are parttime workers.

In 2003, 12.9 percent of wage and salary workers were union members, down
from 13.3 percent in 2002. Union membership rates were higher for men (14.3
percent) than for women (11.4 percent). Blacks were more likely to be union
members (16.5 percent) than were whites (12.5 percent), Asians (11.4
percent), or Hispanics (10.7 percent). Union membership rates were highest
among workers 45 to 54 years old.  Full-time workers were more than twice as
likely as part-time workers to be union members.

Full-time wage and salary workers who are union members have median usual
weekly earnings of $760, compared with a median of $599 for wage and salary
workers who are not represented by unions.

In 2003, workers in the public sector had a union membership rate more than
four times that of private-sector employees, 37.2 percent compared with 8.2
percent.  The unionization rate for government workers has held
steady since 1983.  The rate for private industry workers has fallen by
about half over the same time period.

Within government, local government workers had the highest union membership
rate, 42.6 percent.  This group
includes the heavily unionized occupations of teachers, police officers, and
fire fighters.  Nearly two-fifths of workers in education, training, and
library occupations and in protective service occupations were union members
in 2003.  Protective service occupations include fire fighters and police
officers.

Among major private industries, transportation and utilities had the highest
union membership rate, at 26.2 percent.  Construction (16.0 percent),
information industries (13.6 percent), and manufacturing (13.5 percent) also
had higher-than-average rates.

Among occupational groups, education, training, and library occupations
(37.7 percent) and protective service workers (36.1 percent) had the highest
unionization rates in 2003.  Natural resources, construction, and
maintenance workers and production, transportation, and material moving
occupations also had higher-than-average union membership rates at 19.2
percent and 18.7 per-cent, respectively.  Among the major occupational
groups, sales and office occupations had the lowest unionization rate--8.2
percent.

The number of union members is highest in California (2.4 million), New York
(1.9 million), and Illinois (1.0 million).  The states with the highest
union membership rates are .New York (24.6 percent), Hawaii (23.8 percent),
Alaska (22.3 percent), and Michigan (21.9 percent).

 Texas had only about one-fourth as many union members as New York, despite
having 1.2 million more
wage and salary employees.

Faced with the imperative of cutting government spending, a Democratic
government could run into some tough opposition. On the other hand,
unionised government employees could influence Democratic expenditure
reducing ideas.

Jurriaan


Re: Greenspan on Social Security

2004-02-25 Thread joanna bujes
Get a grip Jurriaan, not everything has to do with whoring.

Joanna

Jurriaan Bendien wrote:

Seems like it. Greenspan said the USA can't afford the retirement benefits
promised to baby boomers and urged Congress to trim them. This is a cohort
theory of perpetuating capitalism, according to which what you deserve
depends on your age, and if by a ceryain age you haven't got the cash
together, then you don't deserve social assistance. With this new allocation
principle, you can of course rip off a whole bunch of new people. If you
have to drastically cut expenditures, then a whole new ideology has to be
developed to justify who deserves what.
In 2002, the US benefit figures were as follows:

Old-age/survivors/disability/health insurance benefit $710 billion
Government unemployment insurance benefit  $53 billion
Veterans benefits $30 billion
Family assistance benefit $20 billion
That's a total of $813 billion, or about 8% of the total personal income
received by all Americans (only about half of that total personal income is
wages and salaries).
You cannot actually cut those benefits very much, so the revenue gain is not
actually very great, but the advantage is, that many of those people are in
a weaker position, and so you can attack them, without them being able to do
very much about it.
But it doesn't solve much as regards balancing government budgets. What they
should do first of all, is drastically rationalise and reduce military
spending.
I think Greenspan possibly argues that many baby-boomer retirees are wealthy
anyhow, and thus not deserving social assistance to which they are entitled,
but a closer look at the facts would show this has very limited validity.
Basically the bourgeoisie is telling the working class to go whoring,
instead of receive social assistance benefits for which they were previously
taxed by their own elected government.
But if you are a pensioner, then you are unlikely to want to go whoring, if
anything the probability is greater that you'd be buying sexual services.
The real question then is, why should the bourgeois elite get it for free ?
Greenspan's new deregulation argument is a bit like depositing money in a
bank, and then later the bank manager says instead of paying you interest
on your deposit, I am deducting interest from your deposit, and if you
protest, you won't get your deposit back at all.
Jurriaan






Republican vs. Democratic styles

2004-02-25 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Some interesting comments at:

http://www.jofreeman.com/polparties/polculture.htm

J.


Re: Greenspan on Social Security

2004-02-25 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
 Get a grip Jurriaan, not everything has to do with whoring.

More than you think anyway.

J.


Re: demo fervor

2004-02-25 Thread Sabri Oncu
Sabri Oncu wrote:

  heteroskedastic.

WHAT???

Carrol

Heteroskedastic means non-constant variance.

If you look at the way the data varies with time, the
fluctuations are larger initially and the fluctuations
attenuate as the time progresses, although they appear
to get larger again towards the end.

Moreover, you just have 13 observations. I would never
reach any conclusions with that many observations.

This is why most macroeconomic theories are fucked up.

Since in the long run we are all dead, we have no
means of collecting enough data, not to mention
potential structural changes, of course.

Best,

Sabri


Britain in Iraq: still no contracts

2004-02-25 Thread Eubulides
White House rebuffs UK contracts bid

Terry Macalister
Thursday February 26, 2004
The Guardian

Top-level lobbying by British ministers on a trip to Washington on behalf
of UK companies trying to win work in Iraq has been rebuffed by White
House officials.

The trade minister, Mike O'Brien, insisted at a reconstruction conference
on Tuesday that his visit had been successful, but well-placed sources
argue differently.

Confidential papers seen by the Guardian show the US national security
adviser, Condoleezza Rice, phoned Tony Blair's office to discuss the issue
after she read a leak about the concerted lobbying in this newspaper on
February 13.

But Mr O'Brien and Tony Blair's trade envoy, Brian Wilson, were told
clearly there could be no special efforts to help win deals for UK firms.

The White House is sympathetic but officials there say they cannot
intervene in a procurement process handled by the Pentagon, said a
well-placed source.

Briefing documents dated February 20 - before the trip to Washington -
suggest Mr Blair might raise the issue directly with President George Bush
if there is no progress. Depending on the outcome of the minister's
visit, he [Mr O'Brien] may want to recommend to the prime minister that he
raise this directly with President Bush, according to documents marked
restricted. The British government has become embarrassed about domestic
firms' failure to win a big slice of the Iraq reconstruction contracts.
Billions of dollars worth has gone to American companies such as
Halliburton, which used to be headed by US vice-president Dick Cheney.

A new round of contracts come up early next month and the UK looks better
placed, with stakes in 15 of the 17 bids being considered. But there is
still acute nervousness.

Mr O'Brien told a London gathering on rebuilding Iraq that 20 UK firms had
already won deals, although he denied he had made the visit to Washington
last week to plead Britain's case. The trip had been to discuss
transparency and a level playing field.

But the documents prepared ahead of that meeting make clear the true
reason for the mission by Mr O'Brien and Mr Wilson.

Special guidance on how to handle media interest in the Washington trip
argues: The purpose of the visit is to lobby for UK contracts and if
there [are] none offered, then the media would report on this negatively.

Despite Mr O'Brien's comments that we have secured quite a lot of
contracts already, the briefing documents from the UK trade and
investment unit of the Department of Trade and Industry admit the question
of how successful UK firms are in Iraq is impossible to answer because
details are not available.

The Guardian revealed two weeks ago that Mr O'Brien and Mr Wilson were
planning a trip to the US to lobby for more UK contracts, and the article
triggered a flurry of action in Washington.

The latest set of confidential documents reveal that Condoleezza Rice
telephoned Nigel Sheinwald [Mr Blair's special foreign affairs envoy] on
February 13 to ask about the Guardian article that day.

Last night Mr Wilson insisted the US trip was not aimed at avoiding
political embarrassment but an attempt to ensure Britain benefited
commercially from the biggest construction programme in history.


Re: Republican vs. Democratic styles

2004-02-25 Thread Michael Perelman
The deepest insight is that power flows down the hierarchy with the
Repugs; upward with the Dems.

On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 05:05:58AM +0100, Jurriaan Bendien wrote:
 Some interesting comments at:

 http://www.jofreeman.com/polparties/polculture.htm

 J.

--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu


Getting Our Money's Worth

2004-02-25 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Organized labor gave $85 million to the Democrats during the 2000
election cycle, but the Democrats still lost the White House and,
even with another $90 million of labor money in 2002, are the
minority party on Capitol Hill (Labor: Background,
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/background.asp?ind=P).  I
don't know how much other liberal interest groups spent on the
Democratic Party in 2000 and 2002.  Anyone got the estimates?  Also,
I'd like to know exactly on what the money was spent.  Anyone has any
information?
Anyhow, the question that I would like to ask is if organized labor
and other liberal interest groups that contribute money to the
Democratic Party are getting their money's worth.  Can't they spend
less on votes for the Democratic Party and receive higher policy
returns at the same time?
What if organized labor and other liberal interest groups
concentrated their efforts to register new voters and to get them to
vote for the Democrats only in the following thirteen states?
*   STATE RESULTS

FLORIDA
BUSH2,912,790  (48.85%)
GORE2,912,253  (48.84%)
NADER  97,488   (1.63%)
OTHERS 40,539   (0.68%)
IOWA
BUSH  634,373   (48.3%)
GORE  638,517   (48.6%)
NADER  29,374(2.2%)
OTHERS 12,131(0.9%)
MAINE District 1
BUSH  148,618   (42.6%)
GORE  176,293   (50.5%)
NADER  20,297(5.8%)
OTHERS  3,743(1.1%)
MAINE District 2
BUSH  137,998   (45.6%)
GORE  143,658   (47.4%)
NADER  16,830(5.6%)
OTHERS  4,380(1.4%)
MAINE At-Large
BUSH  286,616   (44.0%)
GORE  319,951   (49.1%)
NADER  37,127(5.7%)
OTHERS  8,123(1.2%)
MINNESOTA
BUSH1,109,659   (45.5%)
GORE1,168,266   (47.9%)
NADER 126,696(5.2%)
OTHERS 34,064(1.4%)
MISSOURI
BUSH1,189,942(50.4%)
GORE1,111,138(47.1%)
NADER  38,515 (1.6%)
OTHERS 20,315 (0.9%)
NEVADA
BUSH  301,575(49.8%)
GORE  279,978(46.2%)
NADER  15,008 (2.5%)
OTHERS 12,409 (2.0%)
NEW HAMPSHIRE
BUSH  278,559(48.6%)
GORE  266,848(46.2%)
NADER  22,188 (3.9%)
OTHERS  5,700 (1.0%)
NEW MEXICO
BUSH  286,417(47.8%)
GORE  286,783(47.9%)
NADER  21,251 (3.6%)
OTHERS  4,154 (0.7%)
OHIO
BUSH2,350,363(50.0%)
GORE2,183,628(46.4%)
NADER 117,799 (2.5%)
OTHERS 50,208 (1.1%)
OREGON
BUSH  713,577(46.6%)
GORE  720,342(47.1%)
NADER  77,357 (5.1%)
OTHERS 19,273 (1.3%)
PENNSYLVANIA
BUSH2,281,127(46.4%)
GORE2,485,967(50.6%)
NADER 103,392 (2.1%)
OTHERS 41,699 (0.8%)
WASHINGTON
BUSH1,108,864(44.6%)
GORE1,247,652(50.2%)
NADER 103,002 (4.1%)
OTHERS 27,915 (1.1%)
WISCONSIN
BUSH1,237,279(47.6%)
GORE1,242,987(47.8%)
NADER 94,070  (3.6%)
OTHERS24,271  (0.9%)
http://www.presidentelect.org/e2000.html   *

Hiring workers to collect signatures costs at least $1 a name.  To
simplify our calculation, let's say that organized labor and other
liberal interest groups want to register one million new voters each
in Florida, Minnesota, Missouri, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Washington, and
Wisconsin; and 300,000 to 500,000 in each of the other six
battleground states.  Wouldn't $26 million be more than enough for
voter registration and turnout efforts for the Democratic Party
(especially given that organized labor and other liberal interest
groups contribute manpower in addition to money)?
$85 million - $26 million = $59 million

What if organized labor diversified its electoral investments and
spent a saving of $59 million on building up the Green Party in the
rest of the nation, where regular voters are either decidedly
Republican or doggedly Democratic, with other liberal interest groups
pitching in here and there?
That way, organized labor and liberal interest groups can make sure
that the Democratic Party presidential nominee will carry the
electors of the battleground states while putting organized electoral
pressures on the Democratic Party to move to the left -- thus getting
more policies favorable to the working class without spending more
than before.
--
Yoshie
* Bring Them Home Now! http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/
* Calendars of Events in Columbus:
http://sif.org.ohio-state.edu/calendar.html,
http://www.freepress.org/calendar.php,  http://www.cpanews.org/
* Student International Forum: http://sif.org.ohio-state.edu/
* Committee for Justice in Palestine: http://www.osudivest.org/
* Al-Awda-Ohio: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Al-Awda-Ohio
* Solidarity: http://www.solidarity-us.org/


Re: demo fervor

2004-02-25 Thread Doug Henwood
Sabri Oncu wrote:

Since in the long run we are all dead, we have no
means of collecting enough data
If I'm remembering the literature correctly, there's not enough data
to prove with statistical certainty that stock returns are positive
over the long term.
Doug


Re: demo fervor

2004-02-25 Thread Sabri Oncu
Doug:

 If I'm remembering the literature correctly,
 there's not enough data to prove with statistical
 certainty that stock returns are positive
 over the long term.

Well!

It depends on what is meant by the long term but I
don't think there exists such a concept as
statistical certainty.

It is certain however that not only the stock returns
but even the nominal interest rates can go negative,
as both have happened in the past.

The latter is a rare event but the former happens
every day.

I guess I am getting too technical so I stop here.

By the way, someone talked about the IMF Polak Model
on another list and then I read an IMF paper by Polak
from 1997 on that model.

What do my economist friends think about that model?

It looked quite dubious to me.

What is the rationale behind forcing these Structural
Adjustment Programs down the throats of countries like
mine based on such a highly dubious model?

Best,

Sabri


Re: demo fervor

2004-02-25 Thread joanna bujes
Sabri Oncu wrote:

What is the rationale behind forcing these Structural
Adjustment Programs down the throats of countries like
mine based on such a highly dubious model?
Making sure the investors make their profits?

Joanna