Since you are talking about union member affinity for the Republican party, how about 
considering the fact that a growing percentage of present day union members are 
actually government employees.  I am willing to bet that they skew significantly more 
Democratic than the union members working in the private sector, and that explains why 
the percentage of union members voting Democratic has grown.  And what are the 
implications of that reality for Left theory?

David Shemano



--- Original Message---
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 Sent:  2/25/2004  6:41PM
 Subject: Re: [PEN-L] demo fervor

>> 1.  Heteroskedastic?  What is that? Not in my concise OED.
>>
>> 2.  If we can't reach a conclusion about a trend since 1980 then we can't
>> reacch any conclusion period about the degree, the change in the degreee, of
>> union household affinity for the Republican Party, and the whole discussion
>> is pointless.
>> 3. Number 2 above is exactly the point.
>> 4. So let's just disregard the statistical obscurantism in favor of an
>> historical analysis: In the US, as in all bourgeois societies, the ruling
>> class is able to win and maintain the allegiance of some elements of all
>> other classes, including the working class.  This historical conditions
>> exists not to be interpreted, but to be change.
>>
>>  Pleasure,
>> dms
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sabri Oncu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [PEN-L] demo fervor
>>
>>
>> > dms:
>> >
>> > > But the trend since 1980 has been pretty
>> > > consistenly down.  And the trend is your
>> > > friend.
>> >
>> > But that data are clearly heteroskedastic. You cannot
>> > reach a conclusion like that about the trend since
>> > 1980 just by eyeballing.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Sabri
>> >
>>
>>

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