RE: Latest $1,000 Wiki for Perl 6 proposal/offer.
From: Andy Lester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Aug 23, 2006, at 12:21 AM, Conrad Schneiker wrote: Could I just pay someone at TPF $1,000 to set up a wiki *for* Perl 6 on perl.org? [...] Whatever wiki TPF chooses is fine with me. I'm working on a wiki right now. I work for Socialtext, an enterprise wiki company, and I'm working on getting a wiki up for Perl docs. That certainly seems like intriguing news Will there be a reasonably prominent link to your wiki from the perl.org home page? Will your wiki somehow be sufficiently {affiliated with, endorsed by, or featured by} perl.org such that {Perl 6, Parrot, and Perl 5.10} developers and users will (most likely) generally regard it as the new {primary, central} Perl 6 related wiki for the foreseeable medium-term future? Perhaps the best {fast, heuristic} way to address the above sorts of concerns is this: if the general @Larry consensus is that the $1k check should go to you, that's sufficient for me. Does that seem reasonable? (3rd party feedback from other readers is also welcome.) PS: Could your wiki provide some mechanism so that users with #perl6 commit bits could use your wiki as the means to update pugs docs and Perl 6 Cookbook code in the svn tree? If so, how much $ would someone have to raise to make that happen? Best regards, Conrad Schneiker http://perl.net.au/wiki/Perl_6_Users_FAQ (Moved from AthenaLab to Perl 6 Wiki.) www.AthenaLab.com (Nano-electron-beam and micro-neutron-beam technology.)
Re: Latest $1,000 Wiki for Perl 6 proposal/offer.
G'day Conrad / P6 users, Conrad Schneiker wrote: Hopefully someone at The Perl Foundation (perl.org) will read and respond to this. (Other comments and suggestions are certainly welcome, however.) [snip] I'm not suggesting that PerlNet ( http://perl.net.au/ ) become the One True P6 Wiki, although I'd be delighted if it did. However I am eager for PerlNet to improve as much as possible. What I am curious to know is how could PerlNet better meet your needs, and the needs of the Perl community. I'm gathering that two things high on the list are: * Official endorsement of The Perl Foundation (including linkage from perl.org) * Synchronisation between the wiki and svn. Is there anything else? I'm certainly NOT after any money here. I'm after ways to make PerlNet more valuable to the community. Many thanks, and all the very best, Paul -- Paul Fenwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://perltraining.com.au/ Director of Training | Ph: +61 3 9354 6001 Perl Training Australia| Fax: +61 3 9354 2681
RE: Latest $1,000 Wiki for Perl 6 proposal/offer.
From: Paul Fenwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Conrad Schneiker wrote: Hopefully someone at The Perl Foundation (perl.org) will read and respond to this. (Other comments and suggestions are certainly welcome, however.) [snip] I'm not suggesting that PerlNet ( http://perl.net.au/ ) become the One True P6 Wiki, although I'd be delighted if it did. However I am eager for PerlNet to improve as much as possible. What I am curious to know is how could PerlNet better meet your needs, and the needs of the Perl community. I'm gathering that two things high on the list are: * Official endorsement of The Perl Foundation (including linkage from perl.org) Yes. (Or endorsement by @Larry.) My guess is that something like this is necessary to overcome the past reluctance of others to use *any* of the previously suggested, currently existing wikis. * Synchronisation between the wiki and svn. That's not a critical requirement for me (because I don't know how {feasible, reliable, manageable} it would be at present), but I certainly think that would be an awesomely cool and extremely useful feature to have. Is there anything else? I think that does it. I'm certainly NOT after any money here. I'm after ways to make PerlNet more valuable to the community. Many thanks, and all the very best, Likewise. Best regards, Conrad Schneiker http://perl.net.au/wiki/Perl_6_Users_FAQ (Moved from AthenaLab to Perl 6 Wiki.) www.AthenaLab.com (Nano-electron-beam and micro-neutron-beam technology.)
Re: Latest $1,000 Wiki for Perl 6 proposal/offer.
Yes. (Or endorsement by @Larry.) My guess is that something like this is necessary to overcome the past reluctance of others to use *any* of the previously suggested, currently existing wikis. Right on. Currently the Parrot PDD's say that the docs that must be written in POD, even though XML (or HTML for that matter) has its advantages (see parrot/trunk/docs/pdds/pdd00_pdd.pod ). It also welcomes contributions and even says Think of them as Wiki pages, but without the HTML (see parrot/trunk/docs/pdds/README ; it was written in 2001). I already started submitting patches to it, which is indeed almost-wiki, but well-done deployment in a nicely-designed wiki site with Web2.0-style eye-candy, can do a lot of good publicity and make the synopses develop faster - instead of making people go through the hoops of installing SVN, submitting patches through RT etc. Of course some people can say that those hoops are a good anti-vandal measure ... And by the way - *maybe i am missing something*, but is there a plan for the final outline of Perl 6 documentation which will (?) come with the default installation? The current Perl 6 Synopsis \d{1,2} name format carries no information about the contents. I like the Perl 5 style - perlperl, perlrun, perlfaq\d, perlfunc etc. It may seem a little weird to beginners, but is easy once they get used to it; plus it's a good tradition.
Re: Latest $1,000 Wiki for Perl 6 proposal/offer.
On Aug 23, 2006, at 12:21 AM, Conrad Schneiker wrote: Could I just pay someone at TPF $1,000 to set up a wiki *for* Perl 6 on perl.org? Whatever wiki TPF chooses is fine with me. I'm working on a wiki right now. I work for Socialtext, an enterprise wiki company, and I'm working on getting a wiki up for Perl docs. xoa -- Andy Lester = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = www.petdance.com = AIM:petdance