Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol?
This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Forrest - Neither of those approaches would work. The only recourse with an infested piano is fumigation with Vikane. Vikane can only be used if someone has a chamber or it can be tented in a safe, indoor place if the temperature does not fall below 70 degrees F. during the entire fumigation (usually 24 hours). Tom -Original Message- From: Forrest St. Aubin To: pestlist Sent: Fri, Nov 11, 2011 8:45 pm Subject: Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Hi Tom, I am interested in your discussion of Nuvan. A client has a piano which has been in the family for quite some time, having been shipped in from Colombia. As you know, drywood termites will often infest individual elements of furniture, leaving adjacent materials untouched. I've wondered about "tenting" the piano and hanging a Nuvan strip inside. Any thoughts? I would not have considered this approach with any of the old dichlorvos strips. An alternate might be painting the unfinished surfaces of the obviously-infested elements of its construction with a borate solution. Again, thoughts? See you in Reno? Forrest E. St. Aubin, BCE Liaison, ESA/NPMA Chair, ESA-ACE Oversight Committee 12835 Pembroke Circle - Leawood, Kansas 66209 Phone: 913.927.9588 - Fax: 913.345.8008 E-mail: forr...@saintaubinbce.com Website: www.saintaubinbce.com "I am always ready to learn although I do not always like being taught." Winston Churchill -Original Message- From: bugma...@aol.com Date: 11/03/2011 05:36 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Nuvan Pro Pest Strips (Vapona resin strips) are labeled for use in museums and private situations. They have been on the market for several years. Tom Parker -Original Message- From: Anderson, Gretchen To: pestlist Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 3:34 pm Subject: RE: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Vapona strips are something to be very careful of in a museum context (or at home). You must check to make sure that it is allowed for use in public buildings. From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of bugma...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:23 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- An insect growth regulator will not affect adult moths; it may however affect pupation into an adult, sometimes resulting in malformation of the adult and/or sterilization. Tom Parker -Original Message- From: Jones, Robert (Ryan) (Ryan) To: 'pestlist@museumpests.net' Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:42 am Subject: RE: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Thanks for this post - I was just corrected on a misconception I had between the active ingredients of Gentrol and another similar product named Precor, which is used for flea sterilization. It had always been my assumption that Hydroprene was developed for insects that went through incomplete metamorphosis (like bed bugs and cockroaches), and that Methoprene was designed for insects that went though complete metamorphosis (like fleas). Since Dermestids, Clothes moths, and most other heritage-eaters go through complete metamorphosis, I assumed that Precor would be the choice to use if working with an IGR in a museum setting. Interestingly enough, there is a 3rd option out called Nylar that claims to work for both types of insect growth patterns. As far as the use of the IGR’s in the elevator shaft, I agree with Tom that they will
Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol?
This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Hi Tom, I am interested in your discussion of Nuvan. A client has a piano which has been in the family for quite some time, having been shipped in from Colombia. As you know, drywood termites will often infest individual elements of furniture, leaving adjacent materials untouched. I've wondered about "tenting" the piano and hanging a Nuvan strip inside. Any thoughts? I would not have considered this approach with any of the old dichlorvos strips. An alternate might be painting the unfinished surfaces of the obviously-infested elements of its construction with a borate solution. Again, thoughts? See you in Reno? Forrest E. St. Aubin, BCE Liaison, ESA/NPMA Chair, ESA-ACE Oversight Committee 12835 Pembroke Circle - Leawood, Kansas 66209 Phone: 913.927.9588 - Fax: 913.345.8008 E-mail: forr...@saintaubinbce.com Website: www.saintaubinbce.com "I am always ready to learn although I do not always like being taught." Winston Churchill -Original Message- From: bugma...@aol.com Date: 11/03/2011 05:36 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Nuvan Pro Pest Strips (Vapona resin strips) are labeled for use in museums and private situations. They have been on the market for several years. Tom Parker -Original Message- From: Anderson, Gretchen To: pestlist Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 3:34 pm Subject: RE: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Vapona strips are something to be very careful of in a museum context (or at home). You must check to make sure that it is allowed for use in public buildings. From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of bugma...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:23 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- An insect growth regulator will not affect adult moths; it may however affect pupation into an adult, sometimes resulting in malformation of the adult and/or sterilization. Tom Parker -Original Message- From: Jones, Robert (Ryan) (Ryan) To: 'pestlist@museumpests.net' Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:42 am Subject: RE: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol?This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Thanks for this post - I was just corrected on a misconception I had between the active ingredients of Gentrol and another similar product named Precor, which is used for flea sterilization. It had always been my assumption that Hydroprene was developed for insects that went through incomplete metamorphosis (like bed bugs and cockroaches), and that Methoprene was designed for insects that went though complete metamorphosis (like fleas). Since Dermestids, Clothes moths, and most other heritage-eaters go through complete metamorphosis, I assumed that Precor would be the choice to use if working with an IGR in a museum setting. Interestingly enough, there is a 3rd option out called Nylar that claims to work for both types of insect growth patterns. As far as the use of the IGR’s in the elevator shaft, I agree with Tom that they will have limited effect on the juvenile population. A secondary benefit of using the product, however, would be the sterilization of at least some of the existing adult population. If you suspect there are a significant number of adult moths left in the building, the use of IGR’s might be justified. I also highly recommend Alpine. I used it in treating yellow jacket nests this year (which are historically problematic) and found it to be highly effective. It has a great one-two punch, and is non-repellant, which will help contain the infestation rather than scattering it. From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of bugma...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:58 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.
Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol?
to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net > To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. > --- > > Denise - > > > > I think Gentrol would be a waste of chemical. Gentrol holds larvae in the > larval state; it usually does not prevent eggs from hatching. The Alpine > Dust would be a good choice as long as the elevator pit remains dry. > > > > Thomas A. Parker, PhD > > Pest Control Services, Inc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise Migdail > To: pestlist > Sent: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:12 pm > Subject: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? > > This is a message from the Museumpests List. > To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net > To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. > --- > After tracking and mapping webbing clothes moths for several months, we > have pinpointed our elevator shaft as a primary source. It housed a > gradual build up of debris from eight years of service, which when > inspected did contain larvae. We are now looking at having the elevator > shaft floor thoroughly cleaned and sprayed. Our facilities provider has > suggested using Gentrol, but we have only found it referenced with regards > to beetles in the literature. Any comments on the efficacy of Gentrol for > webbing clothes moths would be appreciated. We are also considering using > an insecticide/desiccant combination - such as PyGanic, or Alpine Dust (two > suggested by our facility providers). > > Denise Migdail > Textile Conservator > Asian Art Museum > 200 Larkin Street > San Francisco, CA 94102 > > -- > To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net > > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.netand in > the subject put: > "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. > > You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. > To change to the DIGEST mode send an > email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: > > set mode digest pestlist > > Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com > > > -- > To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net > > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.netand in > the subject put: > "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. > > You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. > To change to the DIGEST mode send an > email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: > > set mode digest pestlist > > Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com > > > > -- > To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net > > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.netand in > the subject put: > "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. > > You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. > To change to the DIGEST mode send an > email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: > > set mode digest pestlist > > Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com > -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. To change to the DIGEST mode send an email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: set mode digest pestlist Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com
Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol?
This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- It's a Vapona resin strip, which is available in many sizes to fit your situation. The strips do not "bleed" plasticizers like the old ones. Tom Parker Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2011, at 9:07 AM, "Anderson, Gretchen" wrote: > This is a message from the Museumpests List. > To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net > To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. > --- > Then this is a new product that I am unfamiliar. What is the active > ingredient and how does it work? I have had too many bad experiences with the > old vapona pest strips not to approach this new product with extreme caution. > Gretchen Anderson > > From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of > bugma...@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 6:09 PM > To: pestlist@museumpests.net > Subject: Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? > > This is a message from the Museumpests List. > To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net > To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. > --- > Nuvan Pro Pest Strips (Vapona resin strips) are labeled for use in museums > and private situations. They have been on the market for several years. > > Tom Parker > > > -Original Message- > From: Anderson, Gretchen > To: pestlist > Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 3:34 pm > Subject: RE: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? > > This is a message from the Museumpests List. > To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net > To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. > --- > Vapona strips are something to be very careful of in a museum context (or at > home). You must check to make sure that it is allowed for use in public > buildings. > > From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of > bugma...@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:23 PM > To: pestlist@museumpests.net > Subject: Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? > > This is a message from the Museumpests List. > To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net > To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. > --- > An insect growth regulator will not affect adult moths; it may however affect > pupation into an adult, sometimes resulting in malformation of the adult > and/or sterilization. > > Tom Parker > > -Original Message- > From: Jones, Robert (Ryan) (Ryan) > To: 'pestlist@museumpests.net' > Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:42 am > Subject: RE: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? > This is a message from the Museumpests List. > To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net > To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. > --- > Thanks for this post - I was just corrected on a misconception I had between > the active ingredients of Gentrol and another similar product named Precor, > which is used for flea sterilization. It had always been my assumption that > Hydroprene was developed for insects that went through incomplete > metamorphosis (like bed bugs and cockroaches), and that Methoprene was > designed for insects that went though complete metamorphosis (like fleas). > Since Dermestids, Clothes moths, and most other heritage-eaters go through > complete metamorphosis, I assumed that Precor would be the choice to use if > working with an IGR in a museum setting. Interestingly enough, there is a 3rd > option out called Nylar that claims to work for both types of insect growth > patterns. > > As far as the use of the IGR’s in the elevator shaft, I agree with Tom that > they will have limited effect on the juvenile population. A secondary benefit > of using the product, however, would be the sterilization of at least some of > the existing adult population. If you suspect there are a significant number > of adult moths left in the building, the use of IGR’s might be justified. I > also highly recommend Alpine. I used it in treating yellow jacket nests this > year (which are historically problematic) and found it to be highly > effective. It has a great one-two punch, and is non-repellant, whic
RE: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol?
This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Then this is a new product that I am unfamiliar. What is the active ingredient and how does it work? I have had too many bad experiences with the old vapona pest strips not to approach this new product with extreme caution. Gretchen Anderson From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of bugma...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 6:09 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Nuvan Pro Pest Strips (Vapona resin strips) are labeled for use in museums and private situations. They have been on the market for several years. Tom Parker -Original Message- From: Anderson, Gretchen To: pestlist Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 3:34 pm Subject: RE: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Vapona strips are something to be very careful of in a museum context (or at home). You must check to make sure that it is allowed for use in public buildings. From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net <mailto:ad...@museumpests.net?> ] On Behalf Of bugma...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:23 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- An insect growth regulator will not affect adult moths; it may however affect pupation into an adult, sometimes resulting in malformation of the adult and/or sterilization. Tom Parker -Original Message- From: Jones, Robert (Ryan) (Ryan) To: 'pestlist@museumpests.net' Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:42 am Subject: RE: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net <mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Thanks for this post - I was just corrected on a misconception I had between the active ingredients of Gentrol and another similar product named Precor, which is used for flea sterilization. It had always been my assumption that Hydroprene was developed for insects that went through incomplete metamorphosis (like bed bugs and cockroaches), and that Methoprene was designed for insects that went though complete metamorphosis (like fleas). Since Dermestids, Clothes moths, and most other heritage-eaters go through complete metamorphosis, I assumed that Precor would be the choice to use if working with an IGR in a museum setting. Interestingly enough, there is a 3rd option out called Nylar that claims to work for both types of insect growth patterns. As far as the use of the IGR's in the elevator shaft, I agree with Tom that they will have limited effect on the juvenile population. A secondary benefit of using the product, however, would be the sterilization of at least some of the existing adult population. If you suspect there are a significant number of adult moths left in the building, the use of IGR's might be justified. I also highly recommend Alpine. I used it in treating yellow jacket nests this year (which are historically problematic) and found it to be highly effective. It has a great one-two punch, and is non-repellant, which will help contain the infestation rather than scattering it. From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net <mailto:ad...@museumpests.net?> ] On Behalf Of bugma...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:58 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Denise - I think Gentrol would be a waste of chemical. Gentrol holds larvae in the larval state; it usually does not prevent eggs from hatching. The Alpine Dust would be a good choice a
Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol?
This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Nuvan Pro Pest Strips (Vapona resin strips) are labeled for use in museums and private situations. They have been on the market for several years. Tom Parker -Original Message- From: Anderson, Gretchen To: pestlist Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 3:34 pm Subject: RE: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Vapona strips are something to be very careful of in a museum context (or at home). You must check to make sure that it is allowed for use in public buildings. From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of bugma...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:23 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- An insect growth regulator will not affect adult moths; it may however affect pupation into an adult, sometimes resulting in malformation of the adult and/or sterilization. Tom Parker -Original Message- From: Jones, Robert (Ryan) (Ryan) To: 'pestlist@museumpests.net' Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:42 am Subject: RE: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Thanks for this post - I was just corrected on a misconception I had between the active ingredients of Gentrol and another similar product named Precor, which is used for flea sterilization. It had always been my assumption that Hydroprene was developed for insects that went through incomplete metamorphosis (like bed bugs and cockroaches), and that Methoprene was designed for insects that went though complete metamorphosis (like fleas). Since Dermestids, Clothes moths, and most other heritage-eaters go through complete metamorphosis, I assumed that Precor would be the choice to use if working with an IGR in a museum setting. Interestingly enough, there is a 3rd option out called Nylar that claims to work for both types of insect growth patterns. As far as the use of the IGR’s in the elevator shaft, I agree with Tom that they will have limited effect on the juvenile population. A secondary benefit of using the product, however, would be the sterilization of at least some of the existing adult population. If you suspect there are a significant number of adult moths left in the building, the use of IGR’s might be justified. I also highly recommend Alpine. I used it in treating yellow jacket nests this year (which are historically problematic) and found it to be highly effective. It has a great one-two punch, and is non-repellant, which will help contain the infestation rather than scattering it. From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of bugma...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:58 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Denise - I think Gentrol would be a waste of chemical. Gentrol holds larvae in the larval state; it usually does not prevent eggs from hatching. The Alpine Dust would be a good choice as long as the elevator pit remains dry. Thomas A. Parker, PhD Pest Control Services, Inc. -Original Message- From: Denise Migdail To: pestlist Sent: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:12 pm Subject: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- After tracking and mapping webbing clothes moths for several months, we have pinpointed our elevator shaft as a primary source. It housed a gradual build up of debris from eight years of service, which when inspected did contain larvae. We are now looking at having the elevator shaft floor thoroughly cleaned and sprayed. Our facilities provider has suggested using Gentrol, but we have
RE: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol?
This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- I just took a look at the Gentrol product label - you are right. It seems that cockroaches and bedbugs exposed to Hydroprene while undergoing instar stages of incomplete metamorphosis are rendered sterile as adults. According to the label, Hydroprene actually kills insects undergoing complete metamorphosis at the pupae stage. Obviously, not all of the pupae will be killed by the application, which will result in some or most of the upcoming generation being sterilized. I still say it’s worth a shot as part of a layered approach. From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of bugma...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:23 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- An insect growth regulator will not affect adult moths; it may however affect pupation into an adult, sometimes resulting in malformation of the adult and/or sterilization. Tom Parker -Original Message- From: Jones, Robert (Ryan) (Ryan) To: 'pestlist@museumpests.net' Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:42 am Subject: RE: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net<mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Thanks for this post - I was just corrected on a misconception I had between the active ingredients of Gentrol and another similar product named Precor, which is used for flea sterilization. It had always been my assumption that Hydroprene was developed for insects that went through incomplete metamorphosis (like bed bugs and cockroaches), and that Methoprene was designed for insects that went though complete metamorphosis (like fleas). Since Dermestids, Clothes moths, and most other heritage-eaters go through complete metamorphosis, I assumed that Precor would be the choice to use if working with an IGR in a museum setting. Interestingly enough, there is a 3rd option out called Nylar that claims to work for both types of insect growth patterns. As far as the use of the IGR’s in the elevator shaft, I agree with Tom that they will have limited effect on the juvenile population. A secondary benefit of using the product, however, would be the sterilization of at least some of the existing adult population. If you suspect there are a significant number of adult moths left in the building, the use of IGR’s might be justified. I also highly recommend Alpine. I used it in treating yellow jacket nests this year (which are historically problematic) and found it to be highly effective. It has a great one-two punch, and is non-repellant, which will help contain the infestation rather than scattering it. From: ad...@museumpests.net<mailto:ad...@museumpests.net> [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net<mailto:ad...@museumpests.net?>] On Behalf Of bugma...@aol.com<mailto:bugma...@aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:58 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net<mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> Subject: Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net<mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Denise - I think Gentrol would be a waste of chemical. Gentrol holds larvae in the larval state; it usually does not prevent eggs from hatching. The Alpine Dust would be a good choice as long as the elevator pit remains dry. Thomas A. Parker, PhD Pest Control Services, Inc. -Original Message- From: Denise Migdail mailto:dmigd...@asianart.org>> To: pestlist mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net>> Sent: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:12 pm Subject: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net<mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- After tracking and mapping webbing clothes moths for several months, we have pinpointed our elevator shaft as a primary source. It housed a gradual build up of debris from eight years of service, which when inspected did contain larvae. We are now looking at havin
RE: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol?
This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Vapona strips are something to be very careful of in a museum context (or at home). You must check to make sure that it is allowed for use in public buildings. From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of bugma...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:23 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- An insect growth regulator will not affect adult moths; it may however affect pupation into an adult, sometimes resulting in malformation of the adult and/or sterilization. Tom Parker -Original Message- From: Jones, Robert (Ryan) (Ryan) To: 'pestlist@museumpests.net' Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:42 am Subject: RE: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net <mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Thanks for this post - I was just corrected on a misconception I had between the active ingredients of Gentrol and another similar product named Precor, which is used for flea sterilization. It had always been my assumption that Hydroprene was developed for insects that went through incomplete metamorphosis (like bed bugs and cockroaches), and that Methoprene was designed for insects that went though complete metamorphosis (like fleas). Since Dermestids, Clothes moths, and most other heritage-eaters go through complete metamorphosis, I assumed that Precor would be the choice to use if working with an IGR in a museum setting. Interestingly enough, there is a 3rd option out called Nylar that claims to work for both types of insect growth patterns. As far as the use of the IGR's in the elevator shaft, I agree with Tom that they will have limited effect on the juvenile population. A secondary benefit of using the product, however, would be the sterilization of at least some of the existing adult population. If you suspect there are a significant number of adult moths left in the building, the use of IGR's might be justified. I also highly recommend Alpine. I used it in treating yellow jacket nests this year (which are historically problematic) and found it to be highly effective. It has a great one-two punch, and is non-repellant, which will help contain the infestation rather than scattering it. From: ad...@museumpests.net <mailto:ad...@museumpests.net> [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net <mailto:ad...@museumpests.net?> ] On Behalf Of bugma...@aol.com <mailto:bugma...@aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:58 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net <mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> Subject: Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net <mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Denise - I think Gentrol would be a waste of chemical. Gentrol holds larvae in the larval state; it usually does not prevent eggs from hatching. The Alpine Dust would be a good choice as long as the elevator pit remains dry. Thomas A. Parker, PhD Pest Control Services, Inc. -Original Message- From: Denise Migdail mailto:dmigd...@asianart.org> > To: pestlist mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> > Sent: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:12 pm Subject: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net <mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- After tracking and mapping webbing clothes moths for several months, we have pinpointed our elevator shaft as a primary source. It housed a gradual build up of debris from eight years of service, which when inspected did contain larvae. We are now looking at having the elevator shaft floor thoroughly cleaned and sprayed. Our facilities provider has suggested using Gentrol, but we have only found it referenced with regards to beetles in the literature. Any comments on the efficacy of Gentrol for webbing clothes moths would be appreciated. We are also considering using an insecticide
Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol?
This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- An insect growth regulator will not affect adult moths; it may however affect pupation into an adult, sometimes resulting in malformation of the adult and/or sterilization. Tom Parker -Original Message- From: Jones, Robert (Ryan) (Ryan) To: 'pestlist@museumpests.net' Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:42 am Subject: RE: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Thanks for this post - I was just corrected on a misconception I had between the active ingredients of Gentrol and another similar product named Precor, which is used for flea sterilization. It had always been my assumption that Hydroprene was developed for insects that went through incomplete metamorphosis (like bed bugs and cockroaches), and that Methoprene was designed for insects that went though complete metamorphosis (like fleas). Since Dermestids, Clothes moths, and most other heritage-eaters go through complete metamorphosis, I assumed that Precor would be the choice to use if working with an IGR in a museum setting. Interestingly enough, there is a 3rd option out called Nylar that claims to work for both types of insect growth patterns. As far as the use of the IGR’s in the elevator shaft, I agree with Tom that they will have limited effect on the juvenile population. A secondary benefit of using the product, however, would be the sterilization of at least some of the existing adult population. If you suspect there are a significant number of adult moths left in the building, the use of IGR’s might be justified. I also highly recommend Alpine. I used it in treating yellow jacket nests this year (which are historically problematic) and found it to be highly effective. It has a great one-two punch, and is non-repellant, which will help contain the infestation rather than scattering it. From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of bugma...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:58 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Denise - I think Gentrol would be a waste of chemical. Gentrol holds larvae in the larval state; it usually does not prevent eggs from hatching. The Alpine Dust would be a good choice as long as the elevator pit remains dry. Thomas A. Parker, PhD Pest Control Services, Inc. -Original Message- From: Denise Migdail To: pestlist Sent: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:12 pm Subject: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- After tracking and mapping webbing clothes moths for several months, we have pinpointed our elevator shaft as a primary source. It housed a gradual build up of debris from eight years of service, which when inspected did contain larvae. We are now looking at having the elevator shaft floor thoroughly cleaned and sprayed. Our facilities provider has suggested using Gentrol, but we have only found it referenced with regards to beetles in the literature. Any comments on the efficacy of Gentrol for webbing clothes moths would be appreciated. We are also considering using an insecticide/desiccant combination – such as PyGanic, or Alpine Dust (two suggested by our facility providers). Denise Migdail Textile Conservator Asian Art Museum 200 Larkin Street San Francisco, CA 94102 -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. To change to the DIGEST mode send an email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: set mode digest pestlist Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: "
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This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Gentrol is an insect growth regulator and does not affect eggs or adults. If you really want to kill all stages of WCM's in an enclosed space, try a properly-sized Vapona resin strip. Tom Parker -Original Message- From: Anderson, Gretchen To: pestlist Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 11:28 am Subject: RE: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- I am currently testing Gentrol Point Source on an isolated population of webbing clothes moths – this is the version that comes in a little disc- and is not directly applied through spray or other methods. This has been in closed containers. The preliminary results are positive. No critters have been seen moving. Gretchen Anderson Conservator Carnegie Museum of Natural History Museum From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of Denise Migdail Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 2:54 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- After tracking and mapping webbing clothes moths for several months, we have pinpointed our elevator shaft as a primary source. It housed a gradual build up of debris from eight years of service, which when inspected did contain larvae. We are now looking at having the elevator shaft floor thoroughly cleaned and sprayed. Our facilities provider has suggested using Gentrol, but we have only found it referenced with regards to beetles in the literature. Any comments on the efficacy of Gentrol for webbing clothes moths would be appreciated. We are also considering using an insecticide/desiccant combination – such as PyGanic, or Alpine Dust (two suggested by our facility providers). Denise Migdail Textile Conservator Asian Art Museum 200 Larkin Street San Francisco, CA 94102 -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. To change to the DIGEST mode send an email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: set mode digest pestlist Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com The information contained in this message and/or attachments is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any system and destroy any copies. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. To change to the DIGEST mode send an email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: set mode digest pestlist Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. To change to the DIGEST mode send an email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: set mode digest pestlist Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com
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The tests that I ran were very controlled -- in enclosed boxes and with
the specific "point source" product. We first field tested this same
product to help deal with a drugstore beetle problem (in conjunction
with increased housekeeping, building maintenance) and thermal control.
This was about 5 years ago (before my time here). The IGR was used
inside of storage cases and in open storage areas. It seemed to help. I
would hesitate to depend on Gentrol Point Source in the situation
described. I suspect that the "point source" product should be best used
with in a more controlled space.
The elevator and shaft can easily provide a highway for any pest and
pesticide. Cleaning and housekeeping is going to be key to controlling
the infestation. In this situation the use of Gentrol in one of the
other application methods might work quite nicely to reduce the future
infestation. It is an insect growth regulator - that is it is
formulated to limit the ability for the insect larva to mature to
adulthood and continue as a breeding population. So it is not
technically a pesticide. It functions differently and should not cause
the same kind of concern. My preliminary tests show that it does work
on webbing clothing moths. I do suggest that you check into the carrier
- what is the substance that is used to carry the IGR particularly if
the product is being sprayed.
Gretchen
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Mary Baughman
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Hi -
I haven't researched this concern;
anecdotal evidence is all I have to back up a suspicion:
I wonder if elevators function like a bellows - pushing air up and down
in the building.
Is my concern unfounded?
If there is truth to the bellows notion, I would prefer that any
pesticide used in an elevator shaft be in a bait form that could not be
pumped up and down - and out - as the elevator moves.
Mary Baughman
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Denise -
I think Gentrol would be a waste of chemical. Gentrol holds
larvae in the larval state; it usually does not prevent eggs from
hatching. The Alpine Dust would be a good choice as long as the
elevator pit remains dry.
Thomas A. Parker, PhD
Pest Control Services, Inc.
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After tracking and mapping webbing clothes moths for several
months, we have pinpointed our elevator shaft as a primary source. It
housed a gradual build up of debris from eight years of service, which
when inspected did contain larvae. We are now looking at having the
elevator shaft floor thoroughly cleaned and sprayed. Our facilities
provider has suggested using Gentrol, but we have only found it
referenced with regards to beetles in the literature. Any comments on
the efficacy of Gentrol for webbing clothes moths would be appreciated.
We are also considering using an insecticide/desiccant combination -
such as PyGanic, or Alpine Dust (two suggested by our facility
providers).
Denise Migdail
Textile Conservator
Asian Art Museum
200 Larkin Street
San Francisco, CA 94102
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RE: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol?
This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- The Point Source product is at a lower concentration than Gentrol used from a concentrate bottle and mixed for application. On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:15:16 -0400, Anderson, Gretchen wrote: > This is a message from the Museumpests List. > To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net > To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. > --- > > I am currently testing Gentrol Point Source on an isolated population of webbing clothes moths - this is the version that comes in a little disc- and is not directly applied through spray or other methods. This has been in closed containers. The preliminary results are positive. No critters have been seen moving. > > Gretchen Anderson > > Conservator > > Carnegie Museum of Natural History Museum > > - > > FROM: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] ON BEHALF OF Denise Migdail > SENT: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 2:54 PM > TO: pestlist@museumpests.net > SUBJECT: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? > > This is a message from the Museumpests List. > To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net > To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. > --- > After tracking and mapping webbing clothes moths for several months, we have pinpointed our elevator shaft as a primary source. It housed a gradual build up of debris from eight years of service, which when inspected did contain larvae. We are now looking at having the elevator shaft floor thoroughly cleaned and sprayed. Our facilities provider has suggested using Gentrol, but we have only found it referenced with regards to beetles in the literature. Any comments on the efficacy of Gentrol for webbing clothes moths would be appreciated. We are also considering using an insecticide/desiccant combination - such as PyGanic, or Alpine Dust (two suggested by our facility providers). > > Denise Migdail > Textile Conservator > AsianArt Museum > 200 Larkin Street > San Francisco, CA 94102 > > -- > To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net > > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: > "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. > > You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. > To change to the DIGEST mode send an > email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: > > set mode digest pestlist > > Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com > The information contained in this message and/or attachments is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any system and destroy any copies. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. -- --- Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail Louis N. Sorkin, B.C.E. Entomology Section Division of Invertebrate Zoology American Museum of Natural History Central Park West at 79th Street New York, NY 10024-5192 phone: 212-769-5613 fax: 212-769-5277 email: sor...@amnh.org The New York Entomological Society, Inc. email: n...@amnh.org web: www.nyentsoc.org Online journal from 2001 forward www.BioOne.org www.jstor.org -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. To change to the DIGEST mode send an email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: set mode digest pestlist Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com
Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol?
This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Hi - I haven't researched this concern; anecdotal evidence is all I have to back up a suspicion: I wonder if elevators function like a bellows - pushing air up and down in the building. Is my concern unfounded? If there is truth to the bellows notion, I would prefer that any pesticide used in an elevator shaft be in a bait form that could not be pumped up and down - and out - as the elevator moves. Mary Baughman This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Denise - I think Gentrol would be a waste of chemical. Gentrol holds larvae in the larval state; it usually does not prevent eggs from hatching. The Alpine Dust would be a good choice as long as the elevator pit remains dry. Thomas A. Parker, PhD Pest Control Services, Inc. -Original Message- From: Denise Migdail To: pestlist Sent: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:12 pm Subject: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to <mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net>pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- After tracking and mapping webbing clothes moths for several months, we have pinpointed our elevator shaft as a primary source. It housed a gradual build up of debris from eight years of service, which when inspected did contain larvae. We are now looking at having the elevator shaft floor thoroughly cleaned and sprayed. Our facilities provider has suggested using Gentrol, but we have only found it referenced with regards to beetles in the literature. Any comments on the efficacy of Gentrol for webbing clothes moths would be appreciated. We are also considering using an insecticide/desiccant combination - such as PyGanic, or Alpine Dust (two suggested by our facility providers). Denise Migdail Textile Conservator Asian Art Museum 200 Larkin Street San Francisco, CA 94102 -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to <mailto:pestlist@museumpests.Net>pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to <mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net>pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. To change to the DIGEST mode send an email to <mailto:imail...@museumpests.net>imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: set mode digest pestlist Any problems email <mailto:l...@collectionpests.com>l...@collectionpests.com or <mailto:l...@zaks.com>l...@zaks.com -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. To change to the DIGEST mode send an email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: set mode digest pestlist Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. To change to the DIGEST mode send an email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: set mode digest pestlist Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com
RE: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol?
This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Thanks for this post - I was just corrected on a misconception I had between the active ingredients of Gentrol and another similar product named Precor, which is used for flea sterilization. It had always been my assumption that Hydroprene was developed for insects that went through incomplete metamorphosis (like bed bugs and cockroaches), and that Methoprene was designed for insects that went though complete metamorphosis (like fleas). Since Dermestids, Clothes moths, and most other heritage-eaters go through complete metamorphosis, I assumed that Precor would be the choice to use if working with an IGR in a museum setting. Interestingly enough, there is a 3rd option out called Nylar that claims to work for both types of insect growth patterns. As far as the use of the IGR’s in the elevator shaft, I agree with Tom that they will have limited effect on the juvenile population. A secondary benefit of using the product, however, would be the sterilization of at least some of the existing adult population. If you suspect there are a significant number of adult moths left in the building, the use of IGR’s might be justified. I also highly recommend Alpine. I used it in treating yellow jacket nests this year (which are historically problematic) and found it to be highly effective. It has a great one-two punch, and is non-repellant, which will help contain the infestation rather than scattering it. From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of bugma...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:58 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Denise - I think Gentrol would be a waste of chemical. Gentrol holds larvae in the larval state; it usually does not prevent eggs from hatching. The Alpine Dust would be a good choice as long as the elevator pit remains dry. Thomas A. Parker, PhD Pest Control Services, Inc. -Original Message- From: Denise Migdail To: pestlist Sent: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:12 pm Subject: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net<mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- After tracking and mapping webbing clothes moths for several months, we have pinpointed our elevator shaft as a primary source. It housed a gradual build up of debris from eight years of service, which when inspected did contain larvae. We are now looking at having the elevator shaft floor thoroughly cleaned and sprayed. Our facilities provider has suggested using Gentrol, but we have only found it referenced with regards to beetles in the literature. Any comments on the efficacy of Gentrol for webbing clothes moths would be appreciated. We are also considering using an insecticide/desiccant combination – such as PyGanic, or Alpine Dust (two suggested by our facility providers). Denise Migdail Textile Conservator Asian Art Museum 200 Larkin Street San Francisco, CA 94102 -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net<mailto:pestlist@museumpests.Net> To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net<mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> and in the subject put: "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. To change to the DIGEST mode send an email to imail...@museumpests.net<mailto:imail...@museumpests.net> with this command in the body: set mode digest pestlist Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com<mailto:l...@collectionpests.com> or l...@zaks.com<mailto:l...@zaks.com> -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. To change to the DIGEST mode send an email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: set mode digest pestlist Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlis
RE: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol?
This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- I am currently testing Gentrol Point Source on an isolated population of webbing clothes moths - this is the version that comes in a little disc- and is not directly applied through spray or other methods. This has been in closed containers. The preliminary results are positive. No critters have been seen moving. Gretchen Anderson Conservator Carnegie Museum of Natural History Museum From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of Denise Migdail Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 2:54 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- After tracking and mapping webbing clothes moths for several months, we have pinpointed our elevator shaft as a primary source. It housed a gradual build up of debris from eight years of service, which when inspected did contain larvae. We are now looking at having the elevator shaft floor thoroughly cleaned and sprayed. Our facilities provider has suggested using Gentrol, but we have only found it referenced with regards to beetles in the literature. Any comments on the efficacy of Gentrol for webbing clothes moths would be appreciated. We are also considering using an insecticide/desiccant combination - such as PyGanic, or Alpine Dust (two suggested by our facility providers). Denise Migdail Textile Conservator Asian Art Museum 200 Larkin Street San Francisco, CA 94102 -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. To change to the DIGEST mode send an email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: set mode digest pestlist Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com The information contained in this message and/or attachments is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any system and destroy any copies. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. To change to the DIGEST mode send an email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: set mode digest pestlist Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com
Re: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol?
This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Denise - I think Gentrol would be a waste of chemical. Gentrol holds larvae in the larval state; it usually does not prevent eggs from hatching. The Alpine Dust would be a good choice as long as the elevator pit remains dry. Thomas A. Parker, PhD Pest Control Services, Inc. -Original Message- From: Denise Migdail To: pestlist Sent: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:12 pm Subject: [pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol? This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- After tracking and mapping webbing clothes moths for several months, we have pinpointed our elevator shaft as a primary source. It housed a gradual build up of debris from eight years of service, which when inspected did contain larvae. We are now looking at having the elevator shaft floor thoroughly cleaned and sprayed. Our facilities provider has suggested using Gentrol, but we have only found it referenced with regards to beetles in the literature. Any comments on the efficacy of Gentrol for webbing clothes moths would be appreciated. We are also considering using an insecticide/desiccant combination – such as PyGanic, or Alpine Dust (two suggested by our facility providers). Denise Migdail Textile Conservator Asian Art Museum 200 Larkin Street San Francisco, CA 94102 -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. To change to the DIGEST mode send an email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: set mode digest pestlist Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. To change to the DIGEST mode send an email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: set mode digest pestlist Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com
[pestlist] Webbing Clothes Moths and Gentrol?
This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- After tracking and mapping webbing clothes moths for several months, we have pinpointed our elevator shaft as a primary source. It housed a gradual build up of debris from eight years of service, which when inspected did contain larvae. We are now looking at having the elevator shaft floor thoroughly cleaned and sprayed. Our facilities provider has suggested using Gentrol, but we have only found it referenced with regards to beetles in the literature. Any comments on the efficacy of Gentrol for webbing clothes moths would be appreciated. We are also considering using an insecticide/desiccant combination ? such as PyGanic, or Alpine Dust (two suggested by our facility providers). Denise Migdail Textile Conservator Asian Art Museum 200 Larkin Street San Francisco, CA 94102 -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. To change to the DIGEST mode send an email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: set mode digest pestlist Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com
