Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc: Problems Running

2016-11-30 Thread Glenn Cavarlé
Hi Nicolas,
Brick is based on the master version.


> Metacello new
>   baseline: 'Iceberg';
>   repository: 'github://npasserini/iceberg';
>   load





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Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc: Problems Running

2016-11-30 Thread Nicolas Passerini
Thank you Denis, do you happen to know which version or branch of Iceberg
is loaded?

2016-11-30 12:56 GMT+01:00 Denis Kudriashov :

> Hi Nicolas.
>
> 2016-11-29 22:55 GMT+01:00 Nicolas Passerini :
>
>> 2016-11-29 13:08 GMT+01:00 Denis Kudriashov :
>>
>>> And my problem was related to feature/issue of Iceberg to require github
>>> keys.
>>
>>
>> This is interesting for my, which operation did demand for your github
>> keys?
>> I mean, were keys need for that operation or did Iceberg ask you for keys
>> before they are needed?
>>
>
> I got error when I install dev Brick:
>
> Git error: Cloning into ''Brick''...
> Permission denied (publickey).
> fatal: Could not read from remote repository.
> And I found comment that it could be not required in future.
>


Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc: Problems Running

2016-11-30 Thread Denis Kudriashov
Hi Nicolas.

2016-11-29 22:55 GMT+01:00 Nicolas Passerini :

> 2016-11-29 13:08 GMT+01:00 Denis Kudriashov :
>
>> And my problem was related to feature/issue of Iceberg to require github
>> keys.
>
>
> This is interesting for my, which operation did demand for your github
> keys?
> I mean, were keys need for that operation or did Iceberg ask you for keys
> before they are needed?
>

I got error when I install dev Brick:

Git error: Cloning into ''Brick''...
Permission denied (publickey).
fatal: Could not read from remote repository.
And I found comment that it could be not required in future.


Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc: Problems Running

2016-11-30 Thread Glenn Cavarlé
Hi,
Interessting, i did not know that Bloc was available in Pharo-Launcher... 
The CI job from ci.inria.fr is not fully working in the sense that it does
not install Moz2D plugin, only sources are loaded in order to run tests.
This means that, even if you download image+vm from jenkins, it will not
work.
We need new dependencies on the jenkins slave but it was so complicated to
just make the new slave working (3 weeks), that i postpone the installation
of new other dependencies for the moment (planned for 2017).

"User" and "Dev" versions are maybe confusing names.
We can change them with for instance "Default" and "Contribution"...
Do you have a proposal to make them clearer ?

> The vm is a recent download from get.pharo.org/vm50
Compatibility with 50 image+vm is not ensured, Bloc is currently developed
using http://get.pharo.org/vm60.

If you face some issues again, please take a look at:
  https://github.com/pharo-graphics/Bloc/blob/master/INSTALL.md
  https://github.com/pharo-graphics/Bloc/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md
and report us anything confusing.

Thanks @Denis and @Sean for your interest in Bloc,
Regards,
Glenn.



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Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc: Problems Running

2016-11-29 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Sean P. DeNigris wrote
> What would it take to add the various setups to the CI matrix? This
> complexity will be a high barrier to feedback...

In fact, if the current artifacts are unusable, it would probably be better
to disable them, like Esteban did for the 5.0 VM job...



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Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc: Problems Running

2016-11-29 Thread Nicolas Passerini
2016-11-29 13:08 GMT+01:00 Denis Kudriashov :

> And my problem was related to feature/issue of Iceberg to require github
> keys.


This is interesting for my, which operation did demand for your github keys?
I mean, were keys need for that operation or did Iceberg ask you for keys
before they are needed?


Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc: Problems Running

2016-11-29 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Tudor Girba-2 wrote
> If you do not want to install wget, please try to load the Bloc code using
> the scripts directly in a Pharo image:
> 
> https://github.com/pharo-graphics/Bloc/blob/master/INSTALL.md#all-in-one-user-versions

I thought that's what I was doing ha ha with: 
Metacello new
baseline:'Bloc';repository:'github://pharo-graphics/Bloc/src';load:#git:development.


Tudor Girba-2 wrote
>> If you don't know what it means install User version of Bloc, as
>> described in INSTALL.md

I will.


Tudor Girba-2 wrote
>> Do you find installation guide hard to read or understand?

Maybe it would be helpful to give a quick description of the motivation for
the diffferent options e.g. user vs dev. Denis and I both thought "we're
developers, we should install that" and apparently went down the wrong path.

What would it take to add the various setups to the CI matrix? This
complexity will be a high barrier to feedback...





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Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc: Problems Running

2016-11-29 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi,

> On Nov 29, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Denis Kudriashov  wrote:
> 
> 
> 2016-11-29 12:46 GMT+01:00 Aliaksei Syrel :
> I would really like to help you.
> Could you explain why you want to install #git:development?
> 
> If you don't know what it means install User version of Bloc,
> 
> It was same problem for me because as developer I choose development version 
> :)
> As I understand dev version uses Iceberg and user version is not. And my 
> problem was related to feature/issue of Iceberg to require github keys.

Indeed, the dev versions first installs Iceberg and then loads the code. This 
essentially ensures that we get an updated Iceberg repository in the image 
which is ready to be played with.

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Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc: Problems Running

2016-11-29 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2016-11-29 12:46 GMT+01:00 Aliaksei Syrel :

> I would really like to help you.
> Could you explain why you want to install #git:development?
>
> If you don't know what it means install User version of Bloc,
>

It was same problem for me because as developer I choose development
version :)
As I understand dev version uses Iceberg and user version is not. And my
problem was related to feature/issue of Iceberg to require github keys.


Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc: Problems Running

2016-11-29 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi,

I think that Sean tried to install using the zero conf scripts:
(All-in-one "developer" versions) wget -O- https://goo.gl/HQAPI5 | bash

@Sean, indeed, the scripts rely on wget. If you want to install wget on Mac you 
can do so using homebrew:
brew install wget

If you do not want to install wget, please try to load the Bloc code using the 
scripts directly in a Pharo image:

https://github.com/pharo-graphics/Bloc/blob/master/INSTALL.md#all-in-one-user-versions

Does this help?

Cheers,
Doru



> On Nov 29, 2016, at 12:46 PM, Aliaksei Syrel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sean
> 
> I would really like to help you.
> Could you explain why you want to install #git:development?
> 
> If you don't know what it means install User version of Bloc, as described in 
> INSTALL.md
> 
> Metacello new
>baseline:'Bloc';
>repository: 'github://pharo-graphics/Bloc/src';
>load:#core
> 
> Do you find installation guide hard to read or understand?
> We are trying our best to provide a smooth user experience. Your feedback can 
> help make Bloc better.
> 
> Thanks,
> Alex
> 
> On 29 November 2016 at 06:02, Sean P. DeNigris  wrote:
> Aliaksei Syrel wrote
> > Please refer to
> > https://github.com/pharo-graphics/Bloc/blob/master/INSTALL.md in order to
> > install bloc.
> 
> $ wget -O- https://goo.gl/HQAPI5 | bash
> -> Oops, no wget on Mac
> $ curl https://goo.gl/HQAPI5 | bash
> -> line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'... `'
> $ curl
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/pharo-graphics/Bloc/master/scripts/get-dev
> | bash
> -> Still no wget :/
> $ curl http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash
> $ ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save "Metacello new
> baseline:'Bloc';repository:'github://pharo-graphics/Bloc/src';load:#git:development."
> "Error: External module not found" from LGitLibrary>>libgit2_init
> 
> ugh...
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc: Problems Running

2016-11-29 Thread Aliaksei Syrel
Hi Sean

I would really like to help you.
Could you explain why you want to install #git:development?

If you don't know what it means install User version of Bloc, as described
in INSTALL.md

Metacello new
   baseline:'Bloc';
   repository: 'github://pharo-graphics/Bloc/src';
   load:#core

Do you find installation guide hard to read or understand?
We are trying our best to provide a smooth user experience. Your feedback
can help make Bloc better.

Thanks,
Alex

On 29 November 2016 at 06:02, Sean P. DeNigris 
wrote:

> Aliaksei Syrel wrote
> > Please refer to
> > https://github.com/pharo-graphics/Bloc/blob/master/INSTALL.md in order
> to
> > install bloc.
>
> $ wget -O- https://goo.gl/HQAPI5 | bash
> -> Oops, no wget on Mac
> $ curl https://goo.gl/HQAPI5 | bash
> -> line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'... `'
> $ curl
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/pharo-graphics/Bloc/master
> /scripts/get-dev
> | bash
> -> Still no wget :/
> $ curl http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash
> $ ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save "Metacello new
> baseline:'Bloc';repository:'github://pharo-graphics/Bloc/src
> ';load:#git:development."
> "Error: External module not found" from LGitLibrary>>libgit2_init
>
> ugh...
>
>
>
> -
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Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc: Problems Running

2016-11-28 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Aliaksei Syrel wrote
> Please refer to
> https://github.com/pharo-graphics/Bloc/blob/master/INSTALL.md in order to
> install bloc.

$ wget -O- https://goo.gl/HQAPI5 | bash
-> Oops, no wget on Mac
$ curl https://goo.gl/HQAPI5 | bash
-> line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'... `'
$ curl
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/pharo-graphics/Bloc/master/scripts/get-dev
| bash
-> Still no wget :/
$ curl http://get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash
$ ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save "Metacello new
baseline:'Bloc';repository:'github://pharo-graphics/Bloc/src';load:#git:development."
"Error: External module not found" from LGitLibrary>>libgit2_init

ugh...



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Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc: Problems Running

2016-11-27 Thread Aliaksei Syrel
Hi

Bloc requires an additional library that is not shipped with VM by default
(that is why you get module not found error). Please refer to
https://github.com/pharo-graphics/Bloc/blob/master/INSTALL.md in order to
install bloc.

Cheers
Alex

On Nov 28, 2016 03:49, "Sean P. DeNigris"  wrote:

> From Launcher, I tried to expand the v0.11 tree from the Contribution
> Jenkins, but got: "downloadFailureForUrl:
> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Bloc/PHARO=
> 60,VERSION=v0.11,VM=vm,label=pharo-contribution-ubuntu16-
> 04/lastSuccessfulBuild//api/json?tree=artifacts%5BrelativePath%5D".
> Then I downloaded the "master" artifact and on image launch, got "Error:
> External module not found" for SqueakFFIPrims even though it's listed as a
> builtin module in the System Reporter. I got the same error when I evaled
> "BlSpace new show". The vm is a recent download from get.pharo.org/vm50
>
>
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