[Phono-L] union
hi all i hear paul baker and kurt knauck were banned from union for setting up a new show has anyone heard of this too paul tried this five years ago i know and had to apologize to the union attendees anyone else heard this zono ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Howard Hazelcorn
hi john howard is at union this weekend but you can contact him at _mrporp...@aol.com_ (mailto:mrporp...@aol.com) rob In a message dated 6/9/2010 10:27:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, john9...@pacbell.net writes: Hello all Anyone know how to get hold of Howard Hazelcorn? I had his email address when he bought some items from me but I can't find it now. I am thinking he is my last hope of getting the linkages on this Columbia grafonola correct. This is the one where the on/off mech, the speed control and a strange looking intermediate link are not correctly set, so that none of them work. This model is the only table model made after 1924, but there were several uprights, all of which had a sort of pyramidal lid and some had two compartments on the back with doors over them. I have heard they were for storing booze during Prohibition. Any leads, as always, greatly appreciated. Thanks John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] union
Sounds kind of crazy !! Is there something illegal or unethical about starting your own show, or offering some friendly competition. How bizarre !! - Original Message - From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 7:01:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Phono-L] union hi all i hear paul baker and kurt knauck were banned from union for setting up a new show has anyone heard of this too paul tried this five years ago i know and had to apologize to the union attendees anyone else heard this zono ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] union
There has been an issue with trading in the parking lot on the Thursday before the show in the past. That has expanded to exhibitors trading just about anywhere on Thursday if its officially organized. I am reasonably certain that there will be more info flowing forth on this topic. bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: Sounds kind of crazy !! Is there something illegal or unethical about starting your own show, or offering some friendly competition. How bizarre !! - Original Message - From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 7:01:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Phono-L] union hi all i hear paul baker and kurt knauck were banned from union for setting up a new show has anyone heard of this too paul tried this five years ago i know and had to apologize to the union attendees anyone else heard this zono ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] union
I see. Certainly if some folks are using the parking lot, that would be a problem. But if they are at the Hess Gas Station down the Street, or have rented some space at some ball field, then what's the problem ?? Certainly nothing wrong with that. Why should someone claim a monopoly on the whole area just based on tradition. - Original Message - From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 12:14:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Phono-L] union There has been an issue with trading in the parking lot on the Thursday before the show in the past. That has expanded to exhibitors trading just about anywhere on Thursday if its officially organized. I am reasonably certain that there will be more info flowing forth on this topic. bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: Sounds kind of crazy !! Is there something illegal or unethical about starting your own show, or offering some friendly competition. How bizarre !! - Original Message - From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 7:01:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Phono-L] union hi all i hear paul baker and kurt knauck were banned from union for setting up a new show has anyone heard of this too paul tried this five years ago i know and had to apologize to the union attendees anyone else heard this zono ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] union
That{But if they are at the Hess Gas Station down the Street, or have
rented some space at some ball field, then what's the problem ??
Certainly nothing wrong with that. Why should someone claim a monopoly
on the whole area just based on tradition.} was the question raised the
last time as I remember.
If you remember back several years there used to be an auction on
Thursday night and this issue did not really surface until the auction
went away.
bruce78...@comcast.net wrote:
I see. Certainly if some folks are using the parking lot, that would be a problem. But if they are at the Hess Gas Station down the Street, or have rented some space at some ball field, then what's the problem ?? Certainly nothing wrong with that. Why should someone claim a monopoly on the whole area just based on tradition.
- Original Message -
From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 12:14:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] union
There has been an issue with trading in the parking lot on the Thursday
before the show in the past. That has expanded to exhibitors trading
just about anywhere on Thursday if its officially organized.
I am reasonably certain that there will be more info flowing forth on
this topic.
bruce78...@comcast.net wrote:
Sounds kind of crazy !! Is there something illegal or unethical about starting your own show, or offering some friendly competition. How bizarre !!
- Original Message -
From: zonophone2...@aol.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 7:01:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Phono-L] union
hi all
i hear paul baker and kurt knauck were banned from union for setting up a
new show
has anyone heard of this too
paul tried this five years ago i know and had to apologize to the union
attendees
anyone else heard this
zono
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Re: [Phono-L] union
I suspect that by Monday you will have heard all teh history and teh
full story. Last time there was a negotiated truce but no real resolution.
bruce78...@comcast.net wrote:
So it appears these folks want to be the only game in town? and are blackballing anyone who dares to start there own little trading and selling station, even when it is seperate and apart from their own operation ? That is highly unethical and down right arrogant. Of course this could merely be one of those rumors that gets going, based solely on hear say, and snowballs out of sight. So let's get all of the facts before we all jump on this.
- Original Message -
From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 1:06:36 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] union
That{But if they are at the Hess Gas Station down the Street, or have
rented some space at some ball field, then what's the problem ??
Certainly nothing wrong with that. Why should someone claim a monopoly
on the whole area just based on tradition.} was the question raised the
last time as I remember.
If you remember back several years there used to be an auction on
Thursday night and this issue did not really surface until the auction
went away.
bruce78...@comcast.net wrote:
I see. Certainly if some folks are using the parking lot, that would be a problem. But if they are at the Hess Gas Station down the Street, or have rented some space at some ball field, then what's the problem ?? Certainly nothing wrong with that. Why should someone claim a monopoly on the whole area just based on tradition.
- Original Message -
From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 12:14:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] union
There has been an issue with trading in the parking lot on the Thursday
before the show in the past. That has expanded to exhibitors trading
just about anywhere on Thursday if its officially organized.
I am reasonably certain that there will be more info flowing forth on
this topic.
bruce78...@comcast.net wrote:
Sounds kind of crazy !! Is there something illegal or unethical about starting your own show, or offering some friendly competition. How bizarre !!
- Original Message -
From: zonophone2...@aol.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 7:01:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Phono-L] union
hi all
i hear paul baker and kurt knauck were banned from union for setting up a
new show
has anyone heard of this too
paul tried this five years ago i know and had to apologize to the union
attendees
anyone else heard this
zono
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Re: [Phono-L] union
These folks have spent 30+ years building Union from a couple circus
tents to what it is today. They've served the sellers magnificently and
have every right to preserve the integrity of the show for the buyers.
To start something extra the day before the main event is selfish,
greedy AND unethical! And ANYONE who does so should be blackballed by
the Donley's as well as by sellers and buyers!! If another show is
needed, do it the week-end before or after and let the public decide -
don't rip-off somebody elses efforts.
best, Darrell
=
bruce78...@comcast.net wrote:
So it appears these folks want to be the only game in town? and are
blackballing anyone who dares to start there own little trading and selling
station, even when it is seperate and apart from their own operation ? That is
highly unethical and down right arrogant. Of course this could merely be one of
those rumors that gets going, based solely on hear say, and snowballs out of
sight. So let's get all of the facts before we all jump on this.
- Original Message -
From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 1:06:36 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] union
That{But if they are at the Hess Gas Station down the Street, or have
rented some space at some ball field, then what's the problem ??
Certainly nothing wrong with that. Why should someone claim a monopoly
on the whole area just based on tradition.} was the question raised the
last time as I remember.
If you remember back several years there used to be an auction on
Thursday night and this issue did not really surface until the auction
went away.
bruce78...@comcast.net wrote:
I see. Certainly if some folks are using the parking lot, that would be a
problem. But if they are at the Hess Gas Station down the Street, or have
rented some space at some ball field, then what's the problem ?? Certainly
nothing wrong with that. Why should someone claim a monopoly on the whole area
just based on tradition.
- Original Message -
From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 12:14:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] union
There has been an issue with trading in the parking lot on the Thursday
before the show in the past. That has expanded to exhibitors trading
just about anywhere on Thursday if its officially organized.
I am reasonably certain that there will be more info flowing forth on
this topic.
bruce78...@comcast.net wrote:
Sounds kind of crazy !! Is there something illegal or unethical about starting
your own show, or offering some friendly competition. How bizarre !!
- Original Message -
From: zonophone2...@aol.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 7:01:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Phono-L] union
hi all
i hear paul baker and kurt knauck were banned from union for setting up a
new show
has anyone heard of this too
paul tried this five years ago i know and had to apologize to the union
attendees
anyone else heard this
zono
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Re: [Phono-L] union
I'm at the show and word here is that the pre show was poorly attended
and many doubt it will occur again. As for the whole story I know a
few things but not the while story. Isuspectvi know who is behind it
but I'll leave that to those that can confirm things. I think
darrells assessment is very thougtful and right on the money. The show
should not have and does not deserve a second show as competition.
It's upsurd. I love the union show and it was large and well attended
this year. Lots of unsold good deals so far but I suspect last minute
finished deals will happen Sunday.
Dan
On Jun 12, 2010, at 11:26 AM, Darrell Lehman nickja...@gmail.com
wrote:
I DON'T KNOW THE FACTS -
but if it's what it sounded like, the two individuals mentioned
don't just own a home down the street - they wouldn't be anywhere
near where they are today if it weren't for Union. And to attempt to
suck off the cream a day in advance is simply done out of
selfishness and greed. If it's such a pure entrepreneurial effort,
do it the same day!
Does anybody know who's behind the church gathering? Is this the
event we're discussing?
=
bruce78...@comcast.net wrote:
What if I owned a home right down the street from the Union show
and wanted to have my big yard sale that day, and sell some
phonographs and records out of my collection, and invited some
friends who were visiting Union from out of Town to join me. Would
you consider that ripping off the Donleys ? My little yard sale of
phono stuff is certainly not going to keep collectors from visiting
the Union show and paying their admission charge. This sort of
thing happens everywhere. Up here in the northeast we have the
Giant Flea Market in Brimfield every year just north of Sturbridge,
and for a wholeweek the locals have their little offshoots of the
giant flea market at homes and fields and and whatever open space
there is throughout the area, but it certainly doesn't keep people
from visiting the big Brimfield event. It is just part of the free
enterprise system. Sure these folks are feeding off of the big
event, but that is life. No one has a monopoly on free enterprise
and the
en
treprenerial spirit. There aren't cops out there, taking down
license numbers and checking folks out like the FBI and passing
names along so they can be blackballed by the owners of the big
event.
- Original Message -
From: Darrell Lehmannickja...@gmail.com
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 1:30:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] union
These folks have spent 30+ years building Union from a couple
circus
tents to what it is today. They've served the sellers magnificently
and
have every right to preserve the integrity of the show for the
buyers.
To start something extra the day before the main event is selfish,
greedy AND unethical! And ANYONE who does so should be blackballed by
the Donley's as well as by sellers and buyers!! If another show is
needed, do it the week-end before or after and let the public
decide -
don't rip-off somebody elses efforts.
best, Darrell
=
bruce78...@comcast.net wrote:
So it appears these folks want to be the only game in town? and
are blackballing anyone who dares to start there own little
trading and selling station, even when it is seperate and apart
from their own operation ? That is highly unethical and down right
arrogant. Of course this could merely be one of those rumors that
gets going, based solely on hear say, and snowballs out of sight.
So let's get all of the facts before we all jump on this.
- Original Message -
From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 1:06:36 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
Eastern
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] union
That{But if they are at the Hess Gas Station down the Street, or
have
rented some space at some ball field, then what's the problem ??
Certainly nothing wrong with that. Why should someone claim a
monopoly
on the whole area just based on tradition.} was the question
raised the
last time as I remember.
If you remember back several years there used to be an auction on
Thursday night and this issue did not really surface until the
auction
went away.
bruce78...@comcast.net wrote:
I see. Certainly if some folks are using the parking lot, that
would be a problem. But if they are at the Hess Gas Station down
the Street, or have rented some space at some ball field, then
what's the problem ?? Certainly nothing wrong with that. Why
should someone claim a monopoly on the whole area just based on
tradition.
- Original Message -
From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010
Re: [Phono-L] union
Paul was here. Kurt was not. Dan On Jun 12, 2010, at 4:01 AM, zonophone2...@aol.com wrote: hi all i hear paul baker and kurt knauck were banned from union for setting up a new show has anyone heard of this too paul tried this five years ago i know and had to apologize to the union attendees anyone else heard this zono ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Paint on horn
Spot check a small area with the Meguiar's product Ultimate Compound. I've used this on chalky paint with good results. I don't know how it will do with your challenge, but my experience is that it doesn't load itself into the paint, like other polishing compounds tend to do on aged surfaces that won't otherwise polish. This product is much milder than DuPont #7 Polishing compound, and seems to be smart about removing just the dead pigment; not nearly as aggressively as other products. Still, I'd go slow and stop to determine your progress often (assuming it passes the spot test). This is a pretty amazing product and will work nicely to really shine up shellac or lacquer finishes on wood, and just about anything else. Leaves no residue, has no waxy stuff or silicone in it. Might want to follow it up with a high quality wax to give it extra protection, assuming you get the desired result. Available from auto parts stores. If you try this, post your results. Andy Baron On Jun 12, 2010, at 6:22 PM, harvey kravitz wrote: Hi phono-folks, I just bought a nice 10 panel Edison bell for a cygnet horn. The horn is straight with perfect decals and 99% paint and gold stripes. The paint is very dull. Is there a way to shine it up without destroying the original paint and decals? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated, Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Paint on horn
Car polish designed to clean clear-coat should help. It is very mild and fine abrasive. Test it in an inconspicuous spot first, of course such as on a panel near the bell, opposite the suspension hook. Use a Q tip. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of harvey kravitz Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 8:23 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Paint on horn Hi phono-folks, I just bought a nice 10 panel Edison bell for a cygnet horn. The horn is straight with perfect decals and 99% paint and gold stripes. The paint is very dull. Is there a way to shine it up without destroying the original paint and decals? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated, Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] union
I'm at Union and am enjoying the Show very much as usual. Everyone seemed to be treated fairly this year as far as I know. I didn't go to the pre-show but heard it was not well attended. I do admit missing some of the parking lot action at Union the day before the Show, but when people started moving the parking lot action earlier and earlier until some were arriving 3 or more days before the Show it was unmanageable. I like the Union Show and plan to keep coming. For me it's as much about seeing and greeting old friends as it is about buying and selling. I feel blessed to know and be around such wonderful people from all over the world. Stan Stanford Portland, Oregon - Original Message - From: Daniel Melvin dgmel...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] union Paul was here. Kurt was not. Dan On Jun 12, 2010, at 4:01 AM, zonophone2...@aol.com wrote: hi all i hear paul baker and kurt knauck were banned from union for setting up a new show has anyone heard of this too paul tried this five years ago i know and had to apologize to the union attendees anyone else heard this zono ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] VV crank
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