[Phono-L] Sheet music
Thanks to all who emailed me about my sheet music request. I knew I could count on the members of this forum to help me out. Merry Christmas to all Ken Brekke ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] best way to store wax cylinders?
I should know this but what are some of the best ways to store wax cylinders, aside from good temperature control? Is it OK if they are in their cylinder boxes? And if I am putting them all in some large storage box, is it OK if it's plastic, and should the large storage box not have a lid, because that might trap moisture? Are there some kind of archival storage boxes that are preferable and what type are they and what might be a source? Thanks, Ron Silver Spring, MD ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic
Hi, I subscribed to this a long time ago and have most of the issues Martin printed. I am not sure if he will ever make anymore but I assume not. I can scan them and make them available online if there is any interest. It will take a while to locate them and I may need a few fills. -Barry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic
Barry I would think that would make a great resource-I have a few issues but have not been able to gather many. Abe Feder On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Barry Kasindorf ba...@barrykasindorf.comwrote: Hi, I subscribed to this a long time ago and have most of the issues Martin printed. I am not sure if he will ever make anymore but I assume not. I can scan them and make them available online if there is any interest. It will take a while to locate them and I may need a few fills. -Barry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic
I'd appreciate the effort, Barry! Just make sure Martin doesn't object! Thanks John --Original Message-- From: Barry Kasindorf Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: Antique Phonograph List ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic Sent: Dec 23, 2010 11:55 AM Hi, I subscribed to this a long time ago and have most of the issues Martin printed. I am not sure if he will ever make anymore but I assume not. I can scan them and make them available online if there is any interest. It will take a while to locate them and I may need a few fills. -Barry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic
OK, Anyone know how to contact him? He has seemed hard to reach in the past. -Barry On 12/23/2010 3:05 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: I'd appreciate the effort, Barry! Just make sure Martin doesn't object! Thanks John --Original Message-- From: Barry Kasindorf Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: Antique Phonograph List ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic Sent: Dec 23, 2010 11:55 AM Hi, I subscribed to this a long time ago and have most of the issues Martin printed. I am not sure if he will ever make anymore but I assume not. I can scan them and make them available online if there is any interest. It will take a while to locate them and I may need a few fills. -Barry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic (What happened to Martin)
What ever happened to Mr. Bryan? I remember getting a letter from him about 7 or 8 years ago, saying that he was going to get his act together, start up the Graphic and promised to get it out on time. I sent him the money for the subscription, but the check was never ever cashed and the Graphic was never published again, and he just dissapeared from sight. Does anyone know what became of him and his promise to start up the NAG again ? Why didn't it happen? Why didn't he at least send out a notice to all of his loyal following, explaining what happened and why it never took place. It was just very odd. Very Very Odd. Bruce - Original Message - From: john9...@pacbell.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 3:05:54 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic I'd appreciate the effort, Barry! Just make sure Martin doesn't object! Thanks John --Original Message-- From: Barry Kasindorf Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: Antique Phonograph List ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic Sent: Dec 23, 2010 11:55 AM Hi, I subscribed to this a long time ago and have most of the issues Martin printed. I am not sure if he will ever make anymore but I assume not. I can scan them and make them available online if there is any interest. It will take a while to locate them and I may need a few fills. -Barry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic (What happened to Martin)
Come to think of it, a friend of mine sent him a check that was never cashed too. Maybe just publish the stuff. Its ancient anyhow. -Original Message- From: bruce78...@comcast.net Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 20:27:02 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic (What happened to Martin) What ever happened to Mr. Bryan? I remember getting a letter from him about 7 or 8 years ago, saying that he was going to get his act together, start up the Graphic and promised to get it out on time. I sent him the money for the subscription, but the check was never ever cashed and the Graphic was never published again, and he just dissapeared from sight. Does anyone know what became of him and his promise to start up the NAG again ? Why didn't it happen? Why didn't he at least send out a notice to all of his loyal following, explaining what happened and why it never took place. It was just very odd. Very Very Odd. Bruce - Original Message - From: john9...@pacbell.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 3:05:54 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic I'd appreciate the effort, Barry! Just make sure Martin doesn't object! Thanks John --Original Message-- From: Barry Kasindorf Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: Antique Phonograph List ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic Sent: Dec 23, 2010 11:55 AM Hi, I subscribed to this a long time ago and have most of the issues Martin printed. I am not sure if he will ever make anymore but I assume not. I can scan them and make them available online if there is any interest. It will take a while to locate them and I may need a few fills. -Barry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic
I would be very interested in seeing the issues I don't have. Curious also about what happened. Andy Baron On Dec 23, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Barry Kasindorf wrote: Hi, I subscribed to this a long time ago and have most of the issues Martin printed. I am not sure if he will ever make anymore but I assume not. I can scan them and make them available online if there is any interest. It will take a while to locate them and I may need a few fills. -Barry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic (What happened to Martin)
I really think it was a true love of labor for Martin. The magazine was a bargain as was most everything he sold. Like many things they come and go. Very hard work. Tim Gracyk was a pioneer as well. Allen K too. I have all of the APM's NAGs and a great deal of Tim's work. I am grateful they did what they did and yes Allen and Tim utilize the internet. Thank you all and all the others too. The list is long. Mike Oldcranky On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 1:01 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: Come to think of it, a friend of mine sent him a check that was never cashed too. Maybe just publish the stuff. Its ancient anyhow. -Original Message- From: bruce78...@comcast.net Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 20:27:02 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic (What happened to Martin) What ever happened to Mr. Bryan? I remember getting a letter from him about 7 or 8 years ago, saying that he was going to get his act together, start up the Graphic and promised to get it out on time. I sent him the money for the subscription, but the check was never ever cashed and the Graphic was never published again, and he just dissapeared from sight. Does anyone know what became of him and his promise to start up the NAG again ? Why didn't it happen? Why didn't he at least send out a notice to all of his loyal following, explaining what happened and why it never took place. It was just very odd. Very Very Odd. Bruce - Original Message - From: john9...@pacbell.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 3:05:54 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic I'd appreciate the effort, Barry! Just make sure Martin doesn't object! Thanks John --Original Message-- From: Barry Kasindorf Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: Antique Phonograph List ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic Sent: Dec 23, 2010 11:55 AM Hi, I subscribed to this a long time ago and have most of the issues Martin printed. I am not sure if he will ever make anymore but I assume not. I can scan them and make them available online if there is any interest. It will take a while to locate them and I may need a few fills. -Barry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic (What happened to Martin)
Wish I had all the APMs... -Original Message- From: Mike Stitt smst...@gmail.com Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 14:23:15 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic (What happened to Martin) I really think it was a true love of labor for Martin. The magazine was a bargain as was most everything he sold. Like many things they come and go. Very hard work. Tim Gracyk was a pioneer as well. Allen K too. I have all of the APM's NAGs and a great deal of Tim's work. I am grateful they did what they did and yes Allen and Tim utilize the internet. Thank you all and all the others too. The list is long. Mike Oldcranky On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 1:01 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: Come to think of it, a friend of mine sent him a check that was never cashed too. Maybe just publish the stuff. Its ancient anyhow. -Original Message- From: bruce78...@comcast.net Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 20:27:02 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic (What happened to Martin) What ever happened to Mr. Bryan? I remember getting a letter from him about 7 or 8 years ago, saying that he was going to get his act together, start up the Graphic and promised to get it out on time. I sent him the money for the subscription, but the check was never ever cashed and the Graphic was never published again, and he just dissapeared from sight. Does anyone know what became of him and his promise to start up the NAG again ? Why didn't it happen? Why didn't he at least send out a notice to all of his loyal following, explaining what happened and why it never took place. It was just very odd. Very Very Odd. Bruce - Original Message - From: john9...@pacbell.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 3:05:54 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic I'd appreciate the effort, Barry! Just make sure Martin doesn't object! Thanks John --Original Message-- From: Barry Kasindorf Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: Antique Phonograph List ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic Sent: Dec 23, 2010 11:55 AM Hi, I subscribed to this a long time ago and have most of the issues Martin printed. I am not sure if he will ever make anymore but I assume not. I can scan them and make them available online if there is any interest. It will take a while to locate them and I may need a few fills. -Barry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic and other long gone Phono fanzines
In a message dated 12/23/2010 5:23:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, smst...@gmail.com writes: I really think it was a true love of labor for Martin. The magazine was a bargain as was most everything he sold. Like many things they come and go. Very hard work. Tim Gracyk was a pioneer as well. Allen K too. I have all of the APM's NAGs and a great deal of Tim's work. I am grateful they did what they did and yes Allen and Tim utilize the internet. Thank you all and all the others too. The list is long. I'll add to the list... Cecil Dancer's Gramophone News (I think only 3 issues) From the UK: Sounds Vintage (a glossy mag) From US The Antique Phonograph News (Published by the Calif society in the 1970s) Jerry's Musical News - actually a magazine of Phono classified Ads - by Jerry Madsen Of course Hillandale News (now For the Record) - CLPGS and Talking Machine Review by Ernie Bayly (which petered out after he sold it) and this is just the Phono mags no longer with us, not counting the vintage record ones. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Victor on Ebay
Has anyone checked out this late Victor IV on ebay? Here is the link to it: http://cgi.ebay.com/Victor-Talking-Machine-Phonograph-V-IV-w-Great-Horn-/180 604116113?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 http://cgi.ebay.com/Victor-Talking-Machine-Phonograph-V-IV-w-Great-Horn-/18 0604116113?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a0cd81c91 hash=item2a0cd81c91 Is it possible that a late Victor would have a speed control with the indicator window? It does have a late serial number and the drop in elbow but I have never seen one with the speed indicator. Or, is it a very well done Crap-o-phone case? Ken ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor on Ebay
There are several subtle hints this one may not be what it appears to be. The speed control is one, the reproducer another.the 14X14 footprint is correct, however. H. Ron --- On Thu, 12/23/10, Ken and Brenda Brekke kb...@charter.net wrote: From: Ken and Brenda Brekke kb...@charter.net Subject: [Phono-L] Victor on Ebay To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thursday, December 23, 2010, 9:24 PM Has anyone checked out this late Victor IV on ebay? Here is the link to it: http://cgi.ebay.com/Victor-Talking-Machine-Phonograph-V-IV-w-Great-Horn-/180 604116113?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 http://cgi.ebay.com/Victor-Talking-Machine-Phonograph-V-IV-w-Great-Horn-/18 0604116113?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a0cd81c91 hash=item2a0cd81c91 Is it possible that a late Victor would have a speed control with the indicator window? It does have a late serial number and the drop in elbow but I have never seen one with the speed indicator. Or, is it a very well done Crap-o-phone case? Ken ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor on Ebay
It's too bad there's no full view of the side on the machine, to see if a crank hole has been filled. The crank now looks suspiciously too far to the back of the machine. However, being a later machine (as can be seen by the back bracket), it could be the company was dropping Victrola mechanisms in V-IV cases to use them up. If that's the case, it could be a very rare machine. On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 7:54 PM, hexaph...@sbcglobal.net wrote: There are several subtle hints this one may not be what it appears to be. The speed control is one, the reproducer another.the 14X14 footprint is correct, however. H. Ron --- On Thu, 12/23/10, Ken and Brenda Brekke kb...@charter.net wrote: From: Ken and Brenda Brekke kb...@charter.net Subject: [Phono-L] Victor on Ebay To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thursday, December 23, 2010, 9:24 PM Has anyone checked out this late Victor IV on ebay? Here is the link to it: http://cgi.ebay.com/Victor-Talking-Machine-Phonograph-V-IV-w-Great-Horn-/180 604116113?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 http://cgi.ebay.com/Victor-Talking-Machine-Phonograph-V-IV-w-Great-Horn-/18 0604116113?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a0cd81c91 hash=item2a0cd81c91 Is it possible that a late Victor would have a speed control with the indicator window? It does have a late serial number and the drop in elbow but I have never seen one with the speed indicator. Or, is it a very well done Crap-o-phone case? Ken ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor on Ebay
The item has been removed so I sense the seller was found out... John Robles From: Ken and Brenda Brekke kb...@charter.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, December 23, 2010 7:24:09 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Victor on Ebay Has anyone checked out this late Victor IV on ebay? Here is the link to it: http://cgi.ebay.com/Victor-Talking-Machine-Phonograph-V-IV-w-Great-Horn-/180 604116113?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 http://cgi.ebay.com/Victor-Talking-Machine-Phonograph-V-IV-w-Great-Horn-/18 0604116113?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a0cd81c91 hash=item2a0cd81c91 Is it possible that a late Victor would have a speed control with the indicator window? It does have a late serial number and the drop in elbow but I have never seen one with the speed indicator. Or, is it a very well done Crap-o-phone case? Ken ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor on Ebay
The item has been removed so I sense the seller was found out... No, it's there. Here is the item number: 180604116113 Dennis ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor on Ebay
Strange. When I click on the link, I get an ebay message that says the item was removed. It certainly looks correct in all respects but the speed control and crank location. The screws on the crank escutcheon look new too. The Victor Data book indicates that the cabinet is all correct though. The slip in elbow is a late feature. John Robles --- On Thu, 12/23/10, Dennis Back back...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Dennis Back back...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor on Ebay To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thursday, December 23, 2010, 8:27 PM The item has been removed so I sense the seller was found out... No, it's there. Here is the item number: 180604116113 Dennis ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor on Ebay
On 12/23/2010 11:37 PM, john robles wrote: Strange. When I click on the link, I get an ebay message that says the item was removed. Try this: http://cgi.ebay.com/180604116113 (all you ever need for an eBay link) -- Bill Burns Long Island NY USA http://ftldesign.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor on Ebay
And if you look at 270681982921 you will notice that its crank hole is very far back. Hmmm -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Back Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 11:28 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor on Ebay The item has been removed so I sense the seller was found out... No, it's there. Here is the item number: 180604116113 Dennis ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Victor IV
This Victor most likely hails from South America, where outside horn machines were sold long after they were passé in the states. Speed indicators, automatic brakes and slip-in elbows may all be found on these machines. Kurt Nauck c/o Nauck's Vintage Records 22004 Sherrod Ln. Spring, TX 77389 Website: www.78rpm.com E-Mail: na...@78rpm.com www.newpledge.org www.mdada.org Phone: (281) 288-7826 Fax: (425) 930-6862 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor on Ebay
Living in the Los Angeles area, I have seen several Victor horned machines that came from Mexico. This is consistent with the features of a late South of the border machine. Including the aluminum ID tag, slip in elbow, Victrola type motor, Victrola arm and #2 reproducer. I heard that after horn machines declined in the US due to the 'new' Victrola line, Victor shipped parts to Mexico where they were made for the Mexican market where the horn machined were still popular. It's impossible to verify this is 'correct' without seeing it in person, but I agree with Kurt. Merry Christmas to all, and to all HAPPY COLLECTING -Scott Denise Corbett -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Back Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 8:28 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor on Ebay The item has been removed so I sense the seller was found out... No, it's there. Here is the item number: 180604116113 Dennis ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
