Re: [Phono-L] florida show
HI NO I JUST SAW IT I DID NOT ASK ROB -Original Message- From: Andrew Baron a...@popyrus.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, Jan 23, 2011 5:00 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] florida show Do you recall what the mahogany Home with repeater was priced at? Just curious. Andy Baron On Jan 23, 2011, at 3:18 AM, zonophone2...@aol.com wrote: hi all just got home from the florida show lots of great bargains and lots of sales for me there was a victor model 230 that vtla mark brought that was very nice i got a vtla second model from ron haring for a very good price a mahogany home with a repeater showed up also for a very good price along with a victor c for 3250 lots of great machines and people anyone else have any comments zono ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Porsche 356
HEY JOE THAT IS TRUE I HAD A 1958 CORVETTE IN 69 NOW A 2006 WHAT TECHNOLOGICAL DIFFERENCES BUT BOTH FUN -Original Message- From: Joe Filer filerph...@bellsouth.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, Jan 23, 2011 5:36 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Porsche 356 Wait a minute, I have a 1966 Corvette. I have owned 4 Porsches, 5 MG's, 1 Triumph, 1 Rabbit. I can tell you none of them matches the excitement of a vintage Corvette. OK, the Rabbit was a pickup truck and shouldn't count. This is my 6th Corvette, and man is it fun. Joe Filer From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 5:02:35 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Porsche 356 It's starting to look to me like all phonograph collectors have Porsches, Triumphs and MGs...maybe we need to start Porsche-L?? :-) John --- On Sun, 1/23/11, Mike Stitt smst...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mike Stitt smst...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Porsche 356 To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sunday, January 23, 2011, 9:30 AM Sooo Jerry, did you sell the 356 and keep the VW diesel rabbit? Inquiring minds want to know. Mike Oldcranky On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Jan and Harold dynawh...@shaw.ca wrote: I couldn't agree with you more Jerry. My ex had one. I loved driving that car. Some people called it a glorified VW, but it had power galore! There were a number of times that guys came over and opened the car door for me when I drove that carI knew it wasn't me because it never happened once when I drove the old Toyota :) Jan Victoria BC On 2011-01-21, at 9:57 PM, DeeDee Blais wrote: I was going to let this British car stuff run its course but I can't help myself. You have not driven a car until you've experienced a Porsche 356. The car begged to be driven. When it turned 90,000 miles we drove it 90 mph and it wanted to go faster. It started every time and you didn't need to keep AAA on the speed dial. It did mark its spot in the garage but that was a small price to pay. Jerry Blais ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] MG
NOW ALL WE HAD A LOCAL SINGER HERE A FRIEND OF BOB DYLAN WHO WROTE I WILL PUT A BAR IN MY CAR AND DRIVE MYSELF TO DRINK ERIC VAN SCHMIDT -Original Message- From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, Jan 23, 2011 10:52 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] MG It hurts nothing as it is clearly marked as to subject. Some people need to lighten up a bit. On 01/23/2011 09:45 PM, Ron L'Herault wrote: sorry. It really should have been taken off-list. At least there are lots of car-related records although I don't know of any that mention British sports cars. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of tuban...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 10:04 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] MG OK boys, I'm outa here. If you can't keep the rant kinda phono related I don't need to wade thru all the CAR talk. They do have forums for that. Don ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] ARSC Awards 2011 -- Nominations Reminder
The Outreach Committee of the Association for Recorded Sound Collections (ARSC) posts the following message. If you have any questions, please click on the e-mail address at the end of this message. --- NOMINATIONS for the 2011 ARSC AWARDS --- Deadline: January 31, 2011 You are invited to propose candidates for the 2011 ARSC Awards for Excellence in Historical Recorded Sound Research, the Lifetime Achievement Award, and the Award for Distinguished Service. Nominations may be made by anyone, ARSC member or not. The deadline for nominations is January 31, 2011. NOMINATIONS for the ARSC AWARDS for EXCELLENCE in HISTORICAL RECORDED SOUND RESEARCH Eligible publications include any original work -- book, monograph, article, liner notes, etc. -- first published during 2010. The work may treat any subject related to recorded sound, but must embody the highest research standards. It should deal primarily with historical subjects, pertaining to periods at least ten years prior to the year of publication, with the exception of works related to modern preservation or playback technology. The ARSC Awards typically recognize histories, discographies, or biographies representing the Best Research in these recording genres: Blues or Gospel Music; Classical Music; Country Music; Folk or Ethnic Music; Jazz; Popular Music; Rock, Rhythm Blues, or Soul; and Spoken Word. Additional categories include: General Research in Recorded Sound; Record Labels or Manufacturers; Phonographs; and Preservation or Reproduction of Recorded Sound. The Awards Committee especially welcomes information concerning eligible journal articles, as well as foreign and small-press publications that might otherwise be overlooked. NOMINATIONS for the ARSC LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT and DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARDS The ARSC Lifetime Achievement Award is presented annually to an individual, in recognition of a life's work in research and publication. The ARSC Award for Distinguished Service to Historic Recordings honors a person who has made outstanding contributions to the field, outside of published works or discographic research. Nominations for either of these awards must be received by January 31, 2011. SUBMISSIONS Nominations for the ARSC Awards for Excellence must include the name of each nominee, together with the names of co-authors, the publication title, and the publisher's name and address. Please submit nominations to the Awards Committee Chair: Roberta Freund Schwartz University of Kansas Archive of Recorded Sound 434 Murphy Hall 1530 Naismith Dr. Lawrence, KS 66049 rfsch...@ku.edu Additional information about ARSC, including a list of past ARSC Award Winners, may be found at www.arsc-audio.org . The Association for Recorded Sound Collections is a nonprofit organization dedicated to the preservation and study of sound recordings -- in all genres of music and speech, in all formats, and from all periods. ARSC is unique in bringing together private individuals and institutional professionals -- everyone with a serious interest in recorded sound. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph
Wow! At least I know it was a honest auction. I have bought a couple of nice machines from the seller. I live 30 minutes from him and picked them up. He allowed me to see some of his other machines and big radio collection. his items are always very nice and they bring better than average prices. Tim http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrt=ncnma=trueitem=190474888084 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph
Beautiful machine..I wonder who r***r is? He bid a lotta times... --- On Tue, 1/25/11, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote: From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com Subject: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph To: Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org, phonolist phonol...@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 5:03 PM http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrt=ncnma=trueitem=190474888084 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph
I didn't watch this auction..why did it command such a high price? On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tim Gray timsanti...@northstate.netwrote: Wow! At least I know it was a honest auction. I have bought a couple of nice machines from the seller. I live 30 minutes from him and picked them up. He allowed me to see some of his other machines and big radio collection. his items are always very nice and they bring better than average prices. Tim http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrt=ncnma=trueitem=190474888084 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph
I also followed this auction. I made a couple of posts in another forum on this topic. I can't believe how high this went. I can't sell a Standard for $300.00. Go figure. That seller must be laughing all the way to the bank. For that kind of money, you can get an Edison Opera.or a Victor VI. Harvey Kravitz From: Jay Horenstein jay.horenst...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, January 25, 2011 6:42:12 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph I didn't watch this auction..why did it command such a high price? On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tim Gray timsanti...@northstate.netwrote: Wow! At least I know it was a honest auction. I have bought a couple of nice machines from the seller. I live 30 minutes from him and picked them up. He allowed me to see some of his other machines and big radio collection. his items are always very nice and they bring better than average prices. Tim http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrt=ncnma=trueitem=190474888084 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph
More than that. At the CAPS show last August, Vic VIs were selling (or not selling) for $4700. John --- On Tue, 1/25/11, harvey kravitz harveykrav...@yahoo.com wrote: From: harvey kravitz harveykrav...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 6:52 PM I also followed this auction. I made a couple of posts in another forum on this topic. I can't believe how high this went. I can't sell a Standard for $300.00. Go figure. That seller must be laughing all the way to the bank. For that kind of money, you can get an Edison Opera.or a Victor VI. Harvey Kravitz From: Jay Horenstein jay.horenst...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, January 25, 2011 6:42:12 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph I didn't watch this auction..why did it command such a high price? On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tim Gray timsanti...@northstate.netwrote: Wow! At least I know it was a honest auction. I have bought a couple of nice machines from the seller. I live 30 minutes from him and picked them up. He allowed me to see some of his other machines and big radio collection. his items are always very nice and they bring better than average prices. Tim http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrt=ncnma=trueitem=190474888084 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph
Something I have observed about those eBay masked user IDs. The same person will show up with a different mask if you access eBay from a different computer OR operating system running in a VM. They are not static. On 01/25/2011 08:41 PM, john robles wrote: Beautiful machine..I wonder who r***r is? He bid a lotta times... --- On Tue, 1/25/11, Steven Medvedsteve_nor...@msn.com wrote: From: Steven Medvedsteve_nor...@msn.com Subject: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph To: Phono-lphono-l@oldcrank.org, phonolistphonol...@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 5:03 PM http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrt=ncnma=trueitem=190474888084 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph
I have been watching Firebottles auctions for 3 years. The seller's machines all have the same identical finish and luster on them. In my opinion, he resprays them. His auctions always bring values which are way our of line and the bidding historys have a pattern of the same person upping their bids several times near the end. If it looks like a duck... On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:52 PM, harvey kravitz wrote: I also followed this auction. I made a couple of posts in another forum on this topic. I can't believe how high this went. I can't sell a Standard for $300.00. Go figure. That seller must be laughing all the way to the bank. For that kind of money, you can get an Edison Opera.or a Victor VI. Harvey Kravitz From: Jay Horenstein jay.horenst...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, January 25, 2011 6:42:12 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph I didn't watch this auction..why did it command such a high price? On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tim Gray timsanti...@northstate.netwrote: Wow! At least I know it was a honest auction. I have bought a couple of nice machines from the seller. I live 30 minutes from him and picked them up. He allowed me to see some of his other machines and big radio collection. his items are always very nice and they bring better than average prices. Tim http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrt=ncnma=trueitem=190474888084 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph
I didn't wanna say that...but I agree. --- On Tue, 1/25/11, Steve Andersen ander...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: From: Steve Andersen ander...@tampabay.rr.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 7:01 PM I have been watching Firebottles auctions for 3 years. The seller's machines all have the same identical finish and luster on them. In my opinion, he resprays them. His auctions always bring values which are way our of line and the bidding historys have a pattern of the same person upping their bids several times near the end. If it looks like a duck... On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:52 PM, harvey kravitz wrote: I also followed this auction. I made a couple of posts in another forum on this topic. I can't believe how high this went. I can't sell a Standard for $300.00. Go figure. That seller must be laughing all the way to the bank. For that kind of money, you can get an Edison Opera.or a Victor VI. Harvey Kravitz From: Jay Horenstein jay.horenst...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, January 25, 2011 6:42:12 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph I didn't watch this auction..why did it command such a high price? On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tim Gray timsanti...@northstate.netwrote: Wow! At least I know it was a honest auction. I have bought a couple of nice machines from the seller. I live 30 minutes from him and picked them up. He allowed me to see some of his other machines and big radio collection. his items are always very nice and they bring better than average prices. Tim http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrt=ncnma=trueitem=190474888084 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph
It is a nice machine with an elven panel horn. No S? Heck I was good for $750.00, well maybe...How about a K.. Mike Oldcranky On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:07 PM, john robles john9...@pacbell.net wrote: I didn't wanna say that...but I agree. --- On Tue, 1/25/11, Steve Andersen ander...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: From: Steve Andersen ander...@tampabay.rr.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 7:01 PM I have been watching Firebottles auctions for 3 years. The seller's machines all have the same identical finish and luster on them. In my opinion, he resprays them. His auctions always bring values which are way our of line and the bidding historys have a pattern of the same person upping their bids several times near the end. If it looks like a duck... On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:52 PM, harvey kravitz wrote: I also followed this auction. I made a couple of posts in another forum on this topic. I can't believe how high this went. I can't sell a Standard for $300.00. Go figure. That seller must be laughing all the way to the bank. For that kind of money, you can get an Edison Opera.or a Victor VI. Harvey Kravitz From: Jay Horenstein jay.horenst...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, January 25, 2011 6:42:12 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph I didn't watch this auction..why did it command such a high price? On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tim Gray timsanti...@northstate.net wrote: Wow! At least I know it was a honest auction. I have bought a couple of nice machines from the seller. I live 30 minutes from him and picked them up. He allowed me to see some of his other machines and big radio collection. his items are always very nice and they bring better than average prices. Tim http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrt=ncnma=trueitem=190474888084 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph
I also have an interest in early radios and you will hear the same thing over in radio land. But, his auctions are all well photographed and the descriptions are very well written. Maybe he is just very good at proving P.T. Barnum was right. On 01/25/2011 09:07 PM, john robles wrote: I didn't wanna say that...but I agree. --- On Tue, 1/25/11, Steve Andersenander...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: From: Steve Andersenander...@tampabay.rr.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 7:01 PM I have been watching Firebottles auctions for 3 years. The seller's machines all have the same identical finish and luster on them. In my opinion, he resprays them. His auctions always bring values which are way our of line and the bidding historys have a pattern of the same person upping their bids several times near the end. If it looks like a duck... On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:52 PM, harvey kravitz wrote: I also followed this auction. I made a couple of posts in another forum on this topic. I can't believe how high this went. I can't sell a Standard for $300.00. Go figure. That seller must be laughing all the way to the bank. For that kind of money, you can get an Edison Opera.or a Victor VI. Harvey Kravitz From: Jay Horensteinjay.horenst...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, January 25, 2011 6:42:12 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph I didn't watch this auction..why did it command such a high price? On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tim Graytimsanti...@northstate.netwrote: Wow! At least I know it was a honest auction. I have bought a couple of nice machines from the seller. I live 30 minutes from him and picked them up. He allowed me to see some of his other machines and big radio collection. his items are always very nice and they bring better than average prices. Tim http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrt=ncnma=trueitem=190474888084 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph
I have dealt with hundreds of Edison Phonographs since 1973. I have pulled them out of many places in all types of condition and circumstances. I have had some which were factory defects and as a result were never used. NONE of them ever looked like Firebottles. All of his machines would have to be protected in a vacuum chamber or submerged in amber to look that new. The odds of every machine he comes across looking identical in finish and luster is simply impossible and defys logic. On Jan 25, 2011, at 10:07 PM, john robles wrote: I didn't wanna say that...but I agree. --- On Tue, 1/25/11, Steve Andersen ander...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: From: Steve Andersen ander...@tampabay.rr.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 7:01 PM I have been watching Firebottles auctions for 3 years. The seller's machines all have the same identical finish and luster on them. In my opinion, he resprays them. His auctions always bring values which are way our of line and the bidding historys have a pattern of the same person upping their bids several times near the end. If it looks like a duck... On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:52 PM, harvey kravitz wrote: I also followed this auction. I made a couple of posts in another forum on this topic. I can't believe how high this went. I can't sell a Standard for $300.00. Go figure. That seller must be laughing all the way to the bank. For that kind of money, you can get an Edison Opera.or a Victor VI. Harvey Kravitz From: Jay Horenstein jay.horenst...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, January 25, 2011 6:42:12 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph I didn't watch this auction..why did it command such a high price? On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tim Gray timsanti...@northstate.netwrote: Wow! At least I know it was a honest auction. I have bought a couple of nice machines from the seller. I live 30 minutes from him and picked them up. He allowed me to see some of his other machines and big radio collection. his items are always very nice and they bring better than average prices. Tim http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrt=ncnma=trueitem=190474888084 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph
I think that the detailed description is one of the keys to successful selling on e-bay. I have never had the knack of doing that. There is a guy that used to live in California, then moved to Florida by the name of Joe Urbonovitch who restored mostly radios. He did a few phonos as well. He always did a full restoration on them. Never an original finish. His specialty was Zenith Oceanic models. They did very nice restorations, made them look and sound like new. However, his descriptions were unbelievable. He'd give the history of the piece, tell about how he and his Son did the restoration step by step. He also had a little signature thing that he did where he always photographed the radios with his coffee cup next to it. In every single listing. He always got top dollar out of everything that he sold. I think that a well thought out and executed description is one of the keys to success on e-bay. I own three of the radios he sold. They all play well and look great to this day! I'll never get out of them what I paid (bad on me), but I was never disappointed with his product. People love to have a talented sales person woo them and reel them in, as long as they are honest. Tom -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Steve Andersen Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 9:22 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph I have dealt with hundreds of Edison Phonographs since 1973. I have pulled them out of many places in all types of condition and circumstances. I have had some which were factory defects and as a result were never used. NONE of them ever looked like Firebottles. All of his machines would have to be protected in a vacuum chamber or submerged in amber to look that new. The odds of every machine he comes across looking identical in finish and luster is simply impossible and defys logic. On Jan 25, 2011, at 10:07 PM, john robles wrote: I didn't wanna say that...but I agree. --- On Tue, 1/25/11, Steve Andersen ander...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: From: Steve Andersen ander...@tampabay.rr.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 7:01 PM I have been watching Firebottles auctions for 3 years. The seller's machines all have the same identical finish and luster on them. In my opinion, he resprays them. His auctions always bring values which are way our of line and the bidding historys have a pattern of the same person upping their bids several times near the end. If it looks like a duck... On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:52 PM, harvey kravitz wrote: I also followed this auction. I made a couple of posts in another forum on this topic. I can't believe how high this went. I can't sell a Standard for $300.00. Go figure. That seller must be laughing all the way to the bank. For that kind of money, you can get an Edison Opera.or a Victor VI. Harvey Kravitz From: Jay Horenstein jay.horenst...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, January 25, 2011 6:42:12 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph I didn't watch this auction..why did it command such a high price? On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tim Gray timsanti...@northstate.netwrote: Wow! At least I know it was a honest auction. I have bought a couple of nice machines from the seller. I live 30 minutes from him and picked them up. He allowed me to see some of his other machines and big radio collection. his items are always very nice and they bring better than average prices. Tim http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrt=ncnma=trueitem=1904748880 84 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
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Interesting... In a message dated 1/25/2011 7:01:14 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ander...@tampabay.rr.com writes: I have been watching Firebottles auctions for 3 years. The seller's machines all have the same identical finish and luster on them. In my opinion, he resprays them. His auctions always bring values which are way our of line and the bidding historys have a pattern of the same person upping their bids several times near the end. If it looks like a duck... ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
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Yes, that gets back to my original question. A well-written description with good photos -- and these looked professional, like you would see in a magazine -- are essential to command higher prices. : ) Edward In a message dated 1/25/2011 7:18:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, rich-m...@octoxol.com writes: I also have an interest in early radios and you will hear the same thing over in radio land. But, his auctions are all well photographed and the descriptions are very well written. Maybe he is just very good at proving P.T. Barnum was right. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
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Yes, I keep his listings on my Favorites list, because he always has interesting stuff with clear, numerous pics ! Eebae is great for collecting pics of things phonographic. I just need to resist the urge to bid for the heckuvvit, because too many times I've been surprised won something I didn't REALLY need (the $118 perfect Thinkpad and yet another disc 'Standard A' come to mind... ) - Original Message - From: Tim Gray timsanti...@northstate.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph Wow! At least I know it was a honest auction. I have bought a couple of nice machines from the seller. I live 30 minutes from him and picked them up. He allowed me to see some of his other machines and big radio collection. his items are always very nice and they bring better than average prices. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
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I just listed a nice Edison Spring Motor on Ebay. Lets bid it to $7,000!!! 300519198641 On Jan 25, 2011, at 11:37 PM, keeper...@aol.com wrote: Yes, that gets back to my original question. A well-written description with good photos -- and these looked professional, like you would see in a magazine -- are essential to command higher prices. : ) Edward In a message dated 1/25/2011 7:18:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, rich-m...@octoxol.com writes: I also have an interest in early radios and you will hear the same thing over in radio land. But, his auctions are all well photographed and the descriptions are very well written. Maybe he is just very good at proving P.T. Barnum was right. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
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A good writeup can sell sand to Arabs. On 01/25/2011 10:23 PM, Tom Jordan wrote: I think that the detailed description is one of the keys to successful selling on e-bay. I have never had the knack of doing that. There is a guy that used to live in California, then moved to Florida by the name of Joe Urbonovitch who restored mostly radios. He did a few phonos as well. He always did a full restoration on them. Never an original finish. His specialty was Zenith Oceanic models. They did very nice restorations, made them look and sound like new. However, his descriptions were unbelievable. He'd give the history of the piece, tell about how he and his Son did the restoration step by step. He also had a little signature thing that he did where he always photographed the radios with his coffee cup next to it. In every single listing. He always got top dollar out of everything that he sold. I think that a well thought out and executed description is one of the keys to success on e-bay. I own three of the radios he sold. They all play well and look great to this day! I'll never get out of them what I paid (bad on me), but I was never disappointed with his product. People love to have a talented sales person woo them and reel them in, as long as they are honest. Tom -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Steve Andersen Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 9:22 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph I have dealt with hundreds of Edison Phonographs since 1973. I have pulled them out of many places in all types of condition and circumstances. I have had some which were factory defects and as a result were never used. NONE of them ever looked like Firebottles. All of his machines would have to be protected in a vacuum chamber or submerged in amber to look that new. The odds of every machine he comes across looking identical in finish and luster is simply impossible and defys logic. On Jan 25, 2011, at 10:07 PM, john robles wrote: I didn't wanna say that...but I agree. --- On Tue, 1/25/11, Steve Andersenander...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: From: Steve Andersenander...@tampabay.rr.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 7:01 PM I have been watching Firebottles auctions for 3 years. The seller's machines all have the same identical finish and luster on them. In my opinion, he resprays them. His auctions always bring values which are way our of line and the bidding historys have a pattern of the same person upping their bids several times near the end. If it looks like a duck... On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:52 PM, harvey kravitz wrote: I also followed this auction. I made a couple of posts in another forum on this topic. I can't believe how high this went. I can't sell a Standard for $300.00. Go figure. That seller must be laughing all the way to the bank. For that kind of money, you can get an Edison Opera.or a Victor VI. Harvey Kravitz From: Jay Horensteinjay.horenst...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, January 25, 2011 6:42:12 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph I didn't watch this auction..why did it command such a high price? On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tim Gray timsanti...@northstate.netwrote: Wow! At least I know it was a honest auction. I have bought a couple of nice machines from the seller. I live 30 minutes from him and picked them up. He allowed me to see some of his other machines and big radio collection. his items are always very nice and they bring better than average prices. Tim http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrt=ncnma=trueitem=1904748880 84 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph
I'm talking about an honest description. This guy didn't hide anything. Full disclosure. Everything was fairly and honestly represented. There are hucksters out there who lie. I have no patience for those people at all. They should be drawn and quartered. My point was that a well written, honest (full disclosure) description can and does increase a person's chances of getting a better price. Tom -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Rich Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:07 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph A good writeup can sell sand to Arabs. On 01/25/2011 10:23 PM, Tom Jordan wrote: I think that the detailed description is one of the keys to successful selling on e-bay. I have never had the knack of doing that. There is a guy that used to live in California, then moved to Florida by the name of Joe Urbonovitch who restored mostly radios. He did a few phonos as well. He always did a full restoration on them. Never an original finish. His specialty was Zenith Oceanic models. They did very nice restorations, made them look and sound like new. However, his descriptions were unbelievable. He'd give the history of the piece, tell about how he and his Son did the restoration step by step. He also had a little signature thing that he did where he always photographed the radios with his coffee cup next to it. In every single listing. He always got top dollar out of everything that he sold. I think that a well thought out and executed description is one of the keys to success on e-bay. I own three of the radios he sold. They all play well and look great to this day! I'll never get out of them what I paid (bad on me), but I was never disappointed with his product. People love to have a talented sales person woo them and reel them in, as long as they are honest. Tom -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Steve Andersen Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 9:22 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph I have dealt with hundreds of Edison Phonographs since 1973. I have pulled them out of many places in all types of condition and circumstances. I have had some which were factory defects and as a result were never used. NONE of them ever looked like Firebottles. All of his machines would have to be protected in a vacuum chamber or submerged in amber to look that new. The odds of every machine he comes across looking identical in finish and luster is simply impossible and defys logic. On Jan 25, 2011, at 10:07 PM, john robles wrote: I didn't wanna say that...but I agree. --- On Tue, 1/25/11, Steve Andersenander...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: From: Steve Andersenander...@tampabay.rr.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 7:01 PM I have been watching Firebottles auctions for 3 years. The seller's machines all have the same identical finish and luster on them. In my opinion, he resprays them. His auctions always bring values which are way our of line and the bidding historys have a pattern of the same person upping their bids several times near the end. If it looks like a duck... On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:52 PM, harvey kravitz wrote: I also followed this auction. I made a couple of posts in another forum on this topic. I can't believe how high this went. I can't sell a Standard for $300.00. Go figure. That seller must be laughing all the way to the bank. For that kind of money, you can get an Edison Opera.or a Victor VI. Harvey Kravitz From: Jay Horensteinjay.horenst...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, January 25, 2011 6:42:12 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph I didn't watch this auction..why did it command such a high price? On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tim Gray timsanti...@northstate.netwrote: Wow! At least I know it was a honest auction. I have bought a couple of nice machines from the seller. I live 30 minutes from him and picked them up. He allowed me to see some of his other machines and big radio collection. his items are always very nice and they bring better than average prices. Tim http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrt=ncnma=trueitem=1904748880 84 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list
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I just looked at firebottles feedback and see that sirjamesbarrie bought the Edison, plus many other over-priced items. I don't know exactly who sirjamesbarrie is, but clicking his feedback shows a photo. He must not care what the cost is, but just wants nice things. It looks like he had several more bids on the Edison above $6100 that didn't get executed. -- Greg Farmer - Original Message - From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph Beautiful machine..I wonder who r***r is? He bid a lotta times... --- On Tue, 1/25/11, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote: From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com Subject: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph To: Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org, phonolist phonol...@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 5:03 PM http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrt=ncnma=trueitem=190474888084 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
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hmm ... His namesake was the author of Peter Pan ! - Original Message - From: The Farmers g...@usfamily.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph I just looked at firebottles feedback and see that sirjamesbarrie bought the Edison, plus many other over-priced items. I don't know exactly who sirjamesbarrie is, but clicking his feedback shows a photo. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
