php-general Digest 24 Jul 2006 06:26:36 -0000 Issue 4255
php-general Digest 24 Jul 2006 06:26:36 - Issue 4255
Topics (messages 239710 through 239718):
parse text file
239710 by: Benjamin Adams
239711 by: Joe Wollard
239712 by: Sameer N Ingole
239713 by: Stut
239715 by: Benjamin Adams
Re: Step by step code running
239714 by: Robert Cummings
PHP on IIS and MS SQL 2000
239716 by: Igor Kryltsov
239717 by: Frank M. Kromann
239718 by: Igor Kryltsov
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how would I read a file one line at a time:
?php
if($lines $alllines){
$newline .= $lines;
}
?
something like that, I'm cofused on if I use fread, something which
will do one line at a time?
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Benjamin,
Use the file() function, it will read a file then return each line as
a new element in an array.
http://php.net/file
- Joe
On 7/23/06, Benjamin Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how would I read a file one line at a time:
?php
if($lines $alllines){
$newline .= $lines;
}
?
something like that, I'm cofused on if I use fread, something which
will do one line at a time?
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Joe Wollard wrote:
Benjamin,
Use the file() function, it will read a file then return each line as
a new element in an array.
http://php.net/file
And if file is big (biiig) then you want
http://php.net/fgets
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Joe Wollard wrote:
Use the file() function, it will read a file then return each line as
a new element in an array.
http://php.net/file
This will not read the file one line at a time. Try http://php.net/fgets.
- -Stut
On 7/23/06, Benjamin Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how would I read a file one line at a time:
?php
if($lines $alllines){
$newline .= $lines;
}
?
something like that, I'm cofused on if I use fread, something which
will do one line at a time?
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Thanks, fgets works great didn't know the function before.
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 01:56 +0530, Sameer N Ingole wrote:
Joe Wollard wrote:
Benjamin,
Use the file() function, it will read a file then return each line as
a new element in an array.
http://php.net/file
And if file is big (biiig) then you want
http://php.net/fgets
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On Sun, 2006-07-23 at 08:51, Ryan A wrote:
Hi,
I need to explain a script to a pal of mine but either
i cant explain it properly or he just cant get the
concept being new to php's slightly advanced stuff
(OO and classes, mind you...i ain't no expert myself
in this, more like Jochem's(from this list) field of
expertise)
I remember in my old C++ days we used to use something
that basically showed how the code executed, line by
line, running in the loops etc
anything like that for PHP?
Personally I use EditPlus and a lot of echo/print
statements when I debug, I try to keep things simple.
You're looking for a debugger. There's a whole thread on the go right
now for PHP Debugger Recommendations. Personally I prefer the
echo/print_r method that you're probably already using... but as you say
you're trying to demonstrate so that's a bit different.
Cheers,
Rob.
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Our story is
We started building our application back in 2002 on FreeBSD/Apache with
PostgreSQL.
Than company we are working for became bigger and they bought SQL
Re: [PHP] PHP on IIS and MS SQL 2000
Hi Frank, Thanks a lot for your reply. Just to clarify (Unix style of win commands :) ): cp php_mssql.dll php_mssql.dll.bak cp php_dblib.dll php_mssql.dll What about freetds.conf? Just touch it or it has to have something inside? Can you give an example in this case? And probably most importantly where to put it, which folder? Thank you, Igor Frank M. Kromann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Replace php_mssql.dll with php_dblib.dll. You aæso need to create a freetds.conf file but you remove the limitations created by ntwdblib and you get a thread safe environment. - Frank Our story is We started building our application back in 2002 on FreeBSD/Apache with PostgreSQL. Than company we are working for became bigger and they bought SQL 2000 server and we had to switch to MS SQL 2000. Now company became even more bigger and they decided that keeping FreeBSD server which nobody knows and nobody wants to learn in IT department is a risk and we have been asked to move from FreeBSD/Apache to Win 2000/ IIS 5. Back in 2002 we choose ADODB as db abstraction library. With OS switched we noticed a few things: 1) ado-mssql driver which uses mssql_* calls in PHP has a problem of returning only first 255 characters for VARCHARs. I can not agree that casting varchars as text in SQL queries solves this problem (it may be solves it for simple applications) as TEXT datatype has many limitations on its use in SQL queries - you can't use LIKE and DISTINCT and other. 2) ado-ado_mssql. This one uses not ntwdblib.dll but Win COM object ADO (if I am right) There are no problems with varchars but COM object does not like DATETIMEs less than 1970 and all your employees which were 'lucky' to be born before 1970 suddenly become all born in 1970. I am not sure but it looks like choice of platform - PHP on IIS with MSSQL is not a good idea. And by trying to minimize IT department risk (necessity to support OS they do not know) we maximize our application support issues. If anybody can suggest or share experience - please do. Thank you, Igor Kryltsov -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] select option and php
Hi all ,
I have a code below :
function goToPageSelect($selectname,$totalItems){
$_logger = new Log4jLogger();
$_logger-logdebug(starting ..goToPageSelect());
$_logger-logdebug(starting ..goToPageSelect(), $totalItems);
$selecthtml = Go to Page:select name=\$selectname\
class=\inputfield\ onchange=\javascript:gotoPage()\;
for ($index=0;$index$totalItems;$index++){
$value = $value + 1;
$selecthtml .= option value=\$value\$value/option;
}
$selecthtml .= /select;
return $selecthtml;
}
It will produce the html tag as shown below:
script language=JavaScript
function gotoPage(){
var urlpath = ../listflag.php?start=pageID=+3;
document.forms['listfrm'].method = 'post';
document.forms['listfrm'].action = urlpath;
document.forms['listfrm'].submit;
}
/script
form name=listfrm
Go to Page:select name=pageid class=inputfield
onchange=javascript:gotoPage()
option value=11/option
option value=22/option
option value=33/option
option value=44/option
option value=55/option
/select
/form
I tried using onchange in the select tag,but it did not work. It go to
the javascript but the form is not submitted .
Anyideas why?
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[PHP] Re: Step by step code running
Hi Ryan, I use Log4jPhp to log any debug value. I think it is better than using echo or print method. Thanks - weetat Ryan A wrote: Hi, I need to explain a script to a pal of mine but either i cant explain it properly or he just cant get the concept being new to php's slightly advanced stuff (OO and classes, mind you...i ain't no expert myself in this, more like Jochem's(from this list) field of expertise) I remember in my old C++ days we used to use something that basically showed how the code executed, line by line, running in the loops etc anything like that for PHP? Personally I use EditPlus and a lot of echo/print statements when I debug, I try to keep things simple. Thanks! -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Checking $_POST var and stripping
Hi
Can anyone help with this ? its checking the $_POST and seeing if any of the
items begin with answer_,
if the do it should remove it from the beginning and place it into
$value_new.. does not seem to work though...
foreach($_POST as $qid = $value) {
$findme = 'answer_';
if(stripos($value, $findme)) {
$value_new = ltrim($value);
print $value_newbr;
}
}
Thanks
Chris
RE: [PHP] Checking $_POST var and stripping
[snip]
Can anyone help with this ? its checking the $_POST and seeing if any of
the
items begin with answer_,
if the do it should remove it from the beginning and place it into
$value_new.. does not seem to work though...
foreach($_POST as $qid = $value) {
$findme = 'answer_';
if(stripos($value, $findme)) {
$value_new = ltrim($value);
print $value_newbr;
}
}
[/snip]
stripos should be strops and would look for a numeric value, not what
you want. You want strstr I believe
foreach($_POST as $qid = $value) {
$findme = 'answer_';
if(strstr($value, $findme)) {
$value_new = ltrim($value);
print $value_newbr;
}
}
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RE: [PHP] select option and php
[snip]
It will produce the html tag as shown below:
script language=JavaScript
function gotoPage(){
var urlpath = ../listflag.php?start=pageID=+3;
document.forms['listfrm'].method = 'post';
document.forms['listfrm'].action = urlpath;
document.forms['listfrm'].submit;
}
/script
form name=listfrm
Go to Page:select name=pageid class=inputfield
onchange=javascript:gotoPage()
option value=11/option
option value=22/option
option value=33/option
option value=44/option
option value=55/option
/select
/form
I tried using onchange in the select tag,but it did not work. It go to
the javascript but the form is not submitted .
Anyideas why?
[/snip]
In gotoPage() you're not referencing the value of pageid
(document.forms['listfrm'].pageid.value). More of a JavaScript question,
are you a member of a JavaScript list?
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Re: [PHP] Help with dynamic radio buttons
On 7/22/06, Chris Grigor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Afternoon all I need some help here with a problem on dynamic radio buttons. I have a script that calls a database for a list of questions. The questions are returned and each question needs to have 5 radio buttons assigned to it. The radio buttons are a score of 1 - 5 (1 being bad, 5 being good) For example 1 . How would you rate your vacation?1 2 3 4 5 --- those are the radio buttons. 2. How would you rate your dining at the resort? 1 2 3 4 5 Ok so I have all the questions being returned, I was thinking when creating the radio buttons as follows input name=?php echo $row_get_question_list['id']? type=radio value=1 / input name=?php echo $row_get_question_list['id']? type=radio value=2 / input name=?php echo $row_get_question_list['id']? type=radio value=3 / input name=?php echo $row_get_question_list['id']? type=radio value=4 / input name=?php echo $row_get_question_list['id']? type=radio value=5 / The input name for each radio group is the questions id from the database. If there are 50 questions you would have 50 radio button answers submitted. How are you going to identify the radio buttons being submitted as they are dynamic? and also I would need to be stored in the session data as they might want to go back / forward a page. So basically I need to go through each $_GET item, identify it as a radio submission and put it into an array. Has anyone done anything similar before / or can point me in the right direction?? Kind regards Chris You won't get all the radio buttons sumbitted. You will have only the checked buttons. So for every question's ID you will have the radio button that was checked. Just do some testing. Try echoing the $_POST array after you submit the form. var_dump($_POST); -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Step by step code running
Ryan A wrote: Hi, I need to explain a script to a pal of mine but either i cant explain it properly or he just cant get the concept being new to php's slightly advanced stuff (OO and classes, mind you...i ain't no expert myself in this, more like Jochem's(from this list) field of expertise) I'm pretty good at abusing php's OO if thats what you mean ;-) I remember in my old C++ days we used to use something that basically showed how the code executed, line by line, running in the loops etc anything like that for PHP? a debugger would be needed to single step through the code, although how much help a debugger will be if someone doesn't understand php's OO principles [very well] is questionable, generally one has to have a good idea of what the code is meant to be doing in order to make head/tails of the debuggers output. maybe we can help in explaining what your script does? Personally I use EditPlus and a lot of echo/print statements when I debug, I try to keep things simple. Thanks! -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Stumped! 4.x to 5.1 problem!!
[snip] seems the perceived problem is being caused by something else? Sorry, I have to respectfully disagree. I was converting all indexes to string indexes, and simply using zend_hash_update to re-constitute the objects and they simply did not work. When I scanned indexes strings to test for purely numeric content, and when true, used zend_hash_index_update instead, it worked. This behavior appears different in 5.1.X from 4.x, I can't explain it 100%, but I know that this change fixed the problem I was seeing. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Stumped! 4.x to 5.1 problem!!
Mark wrote: Mark wrote: I have an extension that seems to create PHP variables correctly, and var_dump() doesn't seem to have a problem. but upon moving to 5.1.x it fails. Anyone have a suggestion? Well, it is fixed. Evidently, PHP 5.1 sees a difference between $var[0] and $var[0]. It never did before. a quick test on 5.1.1 shows this not to be the case (at least at the userland level): # php -v PHP 5.1.1 (cli) (built: Jan 18 2006 17:41:38) Copyright (c) 1997-2005 The PHP Group Zend Engine v2.1.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2005 Zend Technologies # php -r '$r = array();$r[0] = test;var_dump($r[0],$r[0]);$r[0] = test2;var_dump($r[0],$r[0]);' string(4) test string(4) test string(5) test2 string(5) test2 seems the perceived problem is being caused by something else? BTW: this behavior is almost certainly in wddx. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Step by step code running
Personally, i think the best one is Zend debugger. It's integrated on the Zend IDE, and let you debug remotely, from a server. The problem aside, is that is paid and closed source, neverthless is the best IMHO. You may give it a try: www.zend.com/products/zend_studio HTH, Mariano. weetat wrote: Hi Ryan, I use Log4jPhp to log any debug value. I think it is better than using echo or print method. Thanks - weetat Ryan A wrote: Hi, I need to explain a script to a pal of mine but either i cant explain it properly or he just cant get the concept being new to php's slightly advanced stuff (OO and classes, mind you...i ain't no expert myself in this, more like Jochem's(from this list) field of expertise) I remember in my old C++ days we used to use something that basically showed how the code executed, line by line, running in the loops etc anything like that for PHP? Personally I use EditPlus and a lot of echo/print statements when I debug, I try to keep things simple. Thanks! -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 24/07/2006 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Step by step code running
Hey, I need to explain a script to a pal of mine but either i cant explain it properly or he just cant get the concept being new to php's slightly advanced stuff (OO and classes, mind you...i ain't no expert myself in this, more like Jochem's(from this list) field of expertise) I'm pretty good at abusing php's OO if thats what you mean ;-) :) Your name just came to mind when I thought of OO as I saw a few of your threads before bitching (no disrespect meant) about PHP5's OO, and future compatability a debugger would be needed to single step through the code, although how much help a debugger will be if someone doesn't understand php's OO principles [very well] is questionable, Hmmm, I dont think I myself qualify then! generally one has to have a good idea of what the code is meant to be doing in order to make head/tails of the debuggers output. Well, the script runs without a problem, so he can see what the output is and what it is accomplishing, I guess he just needs to hit the books a bit harder. I learnt (brushed up) OO/class programming via an online PHP site, they had some really good articles, but just cant remember the site name :( maybe we can help in explaining what your script does? Trust me, it would take longer for me to write down the whole thing than actually show the guy's mum and make her understand! Writing descriptions for a script is always a PITA. Cheers! Ryan -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Step by step code running
Thanks Rob, will check it out! You're looking for a debugger. There's a whole thread on the go right now for PHP Debugger Recommendations. Personally I prefer the echo/print_r method that you're probably already using... but as you say you're trying to demonstrate so that's a bit different. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Comparing Strings
Hi folks,
well, I have a really dumb question:
I have the following script at http://www.tisys.org/misc/test.php:
?php
echo $_GET['license'];
?
Now I call it like this:
http://www.tisys.org/misc/test.php?
license=0701770160811371731660412452242420381052542100071831272071031621
17160180165221170166096217228128
And in fact, it echos the whole, long GET-string!
Now i have the following script a tttp://www.tisys.org/misc/
ol_license.php:
?php
if ($_GET['license'] ==
07017701608113717316604124522424203810525421000718312720710316211716018
0165221170166096217228128)
{
echo '1';
} else {
echo '0';
}
?
I launch it like:
http://www.tisys.org/misc/ol_license.php?
license=0701770160811371731660412452242420381052542100071831272071031621
17160180165221170166096217228128
And it returns a 1, which means: The strings match. Now I call it like
http://www.tisys.org/misc/ol_license.php?
license=1701770160811371731660412452242420381052542100071831272071031621
17160180165221170166096217228128
that is, I have changed the first number of my GET-String from a 0 to
a 1 and indeed, the script returns 0, meaning: The scripts don't
match. *HOWEVER*, no I call the script like:
http://www.tisys.org/misc/test.php?
license=0701770160811371731660412452242420381052542100071831272071031621
17160180165221170166096217228129
that is, I have changed the last number of the GET-String from an 8
to a 9, and interestingly, it returns 1 this time, which means the
strings do match, which, however, they don't.
My guess is that PHP only sees / compares the strings up to a certain
position. Is this possible? And if so, is there any way around this,
so that my whole string is seen?
Greetings and thanks in advance,
Nils
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[PHP] database connections
Hi, This is not really a problem, more like a slightly OT question. Recently I have been testing some CMS/carts/BB boards and other related software, sometimes at the end of the page the software outputs the time it took to generate the page and the number of database calls. I have seen some scripts give the number of database calls in the hundreds (from 100 - 400) just to generate one single damn page. Isnt that just too much? Or am I blowing smoke and MySql can handle that without a sweat on a shared hosting environment? (with say100 page requests per minute?) Thanks! -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] database connections
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 11:46, Ryan A wrote: Hi, This is not really a problem, more like a slightly OT question. Recently I have been testing some CMS/carts/BB boards and other related software, sometimes at the end of the page the software outputs the time it took to generate the page and the number of database calls. I have seen some scripts give the number of database calls in the hundreds (from 100 - 400) just to generate one single damn page. Isnt that just too much? It's usually a sign of poor programming and/or purist OOP programming. When I say purist OOP programming some idiot retrieves X topic IDs from the database in 1 query, then proceeds to execute X queries in the constructor of the object to build the actual topic objects, then each of these stupid constructors then proceed to build their children objects (replies) which they do by doing a single query that returns Y children IDs, and then it loops over these and builds the objects via the constructor which again makes another Y queries, and of course those stupid objects go and create their children. I saw one really retarded implementation of this kind of system where an excess of 2 queries were issued to the database -- on a homepage nonetheless :/ I think it was a testament to MySQLs speed that it performed within a reasonable timeframe (under 3 seconds). Either way, such an application will never be scalable such that the database server resides on a different computer than the webserver (even over a LAN). Or am I blowing smoke and MySql can handle that without a sweat on a shared hosting environment? (with say100 page requests per minute?) MySQL can probably handle it. But try not to do programming like that yourself. Stuff like that gives PHP a bad name. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Comparing Strings
Nils Holland wrote:
Hi folks,
well, I have a really dumb question:
I have the following script at http://www.tisys.org/misc/test.php:
?php
echo $_GET['license'];
?
Now I call it like this:
http://www.tisys.org/misc/test.php?license=070177016081137173166041245224242038105254210007183127207103162117160180165221170166096217228128
And in fact, it echos the whole, long GET-string!
Now i have the following script a tttp://www.tisys.org/misc/ol_license.php:
?php
if ($_GET['license'] ==
070177016081137173166041245224242038105254210007183127207103162117160180165221170166096217228128)
{
echo '1';
} else {
echo '0';
}
?
I launch it like:
http://www.tisys.org/misc/ol_license.php?license=070177016081137173166041245224242038105254210007183127207103162117160180165221170166096217228128
And it returns a 1, which means: The strings match. Now I call it like
http://www.tisys.org/misc/ol_license.php?license=170177016081137173166041245224242038105254210007183127207103162117160180165221170166096217228128
that is, I have changed the first number of my GET-String from a 0 to a
1 and indeed, the script returns 0, meaning: The scripts don't match.
*HOWEVER*, no I call the script like:
http://www.tisys.org/misc/test.php?license=070177016081137173166041245224242038105254210007183127207103162117160180165221170166096217228129
that is, I have changed the last number of the GET-String from an 8 to a
9, and interestingly, it returns 1 this time, which means the strings do
match, which, however, they don't.
My guess is that PHP only sees / compares the strings up to a certain
position. Is this possible? And if so, is there any way around this, so
that my whole string is seen?
Greetings and thanks in advance,
Nils
Maybe it's interpreting something as a number somewhere. Did you try
using === instead of == for your comparisons?
Regards, Adam Zey.
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alphanumeric characters to reduce the length?
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Re: [PHP] database connections
Hey Rob, Thanks for replying. It's usually a sign of poor programming and/or purist OOP programming. When I say purist OOP programming... I saw one really retarded implementation of this kind of system where an excess of 2 queries were issued to the database -- on a homepage nonetheless :/ That IS retarded, I wonder why someone would want to do that. I think it was a testament to MySQLs speed that it performed within a reasonable timeframe (under 3 seconds). MySql is a workhorse... def one of my top 3 DBs (I came into LAMP from Java/Oracle) I see you have seen some of the apps I was talking about, even though I have not mentioned any names to offend anyone. I was curious about this because I am working on a project (with other team players) and we have a way of building something with either lots more (complicated) code and fewer database calls or less code and multiple tables. If we take the second option (multiple tables) I am talking about maybe 15 database calls per page, and the site will get around (i guess) 300-750 requests for a page a minute at is peak. The good thing is it will be running on a dedicated server, sharing with around 5 of our other sites... no exceptionally great traffic other than mentioned above on the other sites either, plus most of the other sites are plain html sites. Or am I blowing smoke and MySql can handle that without a sweat on a shared hosting environment? (with say100 page requests per minute?) MySQL can probably handle it. But try not to do programming like that yourself. Stuff like that gives PHP a bad name. I wouldnt be going to those extremes, was thinking of around 5-15 queries per page. Think we'll have a problem? Thanks! Ryan -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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RE: [PHP] database connections
While that kind of query structure can be a huge issue the biggest problem, and performance penalty, occurs if the programmer is opening and closing actual real connections. A good structure would use a singleton connection that is opened only the first time it is called and the rest of the time returns the connection object already opened. Or, use pooling or similar types of things. You will get orders of magnitude increase in speed by not reopening the database multiple times per page especially if you are seeing 15,20 or especially hundreds of connections. Sometimes though you have no real choice but to build a system that has to generate multiple queries, so don't judge the page simply on the number of queries but on the completity of the reporting and the number of database connections opened(you will occasionally need more than one if you arn't pulling all the results at once, using cursors or partial retrievals instead and have to have multiple result sets open at any given time). James Kilbride -Original Message- From: Ryan A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 2:34 PM To: Robert Cummings Cc: php php Subject: Re: [PHP] database connections Hey Rob, Thanks for replying. It's usually a sign of poor programming and/or purist OOP programming. When I say purist OOP programming... I saw one really retarded implementation of this kind of system where an excess of 2 queries were issued to the database -- on a homepage nonetheless :/ That IS retarded, I wonder why someone would want to do that. I think it was a testament to MySQLs speed that it performed within a reasonable timeframe (under 3 seconds). MySql is a workhorse... def one of my top 3 DBs (I came into LAMP from Java/Oracle) I see you have seen some of the apps I was talking about, even though I have not mentioned any names to offend anyone. I was curious about this because I am working on a project (with other team players) and we have a way of building something with either lots more (complicated) code and fewer database calls or less code and multiple tables. If we take the second option (multiple tables) I am talking about maybe 15 database calls per page, and the site will get around (i guess) 300-750 requests for a page a minute at is peak. The good thing is it will be running on a dedicated server, sharing with around 5 of our other sites... no exceptionally great traffic other than mentioned above on the other sites either, plus most of the other sites are plain html sites. Or am I blowing smoke and MySql can handle that without a sweat on a shared hosting environment? (with say100 page requests per minute?) MySQL can probably handle it. But try not to do programming like that yourself. Stuff like that gives PHP a bad name. I wouldnt be going to those extremes, was thinking of around 5-15 queries per page. Think we'll have a problem? Thanks! Ryan -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] database connections
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 15:15, Kilbride, James P. wrote: While that kind of query structure can be a huge issue the biggest problem, and performance penalty, occurs if the programmer is opening and closing actual real connections. A good structure would use a singleton connection that is opened only the first time it is called and the rest of the time returns the connection object already opened. Or, use pooling or similar types of things. You will get orders of magnitude increase in speed by not reopening the database multiple times per page especially if you are seeing 15,20 or especially hundreds of connections. Sometimes though you have no real choice but to build a system that has to generate multiple queries, so don't judge the page simply on the number of queries but on the completity of the reporting and the number of database connections opened(you will occasionally need more than one if you arn't pulling all the results at once, using cursors or partial retrievals instead and have to have multiple result sets open at any given time). Well the system was using one of those not so insightful global database connections so opening up the connection was not the problem. I'm well aware of where bottlenecks occur, but I assure you such a system is not very scalable over a LAN even if you only open one connection. But I guess it doesn't matter if scalability isn't your concern... until further down the road anyways... YOUCH. Either way, using a factory to produce the objects from the row data is much more efficient since you can use a single query to get all children in one shot. This is still not perfect due to recursive nature (there are ways to do it without as some forum discussion have pointed to but I forget the links) but depending on the branchiness of the tree structure will provide a much better response time. As for judging, I guess I was the only one there to see something as simple as retrieval of product categories and products get really out of hand. I reduced the queries to under 200... and since we were still only opening one connection I know the time cost was reduced to about 1/5. The queries could have been reduced more but it was more work than the customer felt was worth the additional savings. Knowing what choices are available is part of competence. If all you see is one choice, there may in fact only be one choice, or you may be too inexperienced to see the others that exist. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] database connections
--- Kilbride, James P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While that kind of query structure can be a huge issue the biggest problem, and performance penalty, occurs if the programmer is opening and closing actual real connections. A good structure would use a singleton connection that is opened only the first time it is called and the rest of the time returns the connection object already opened. Or, use pooling or similar types of things. You will get orders of magnitude increase in speed by not reopening the database multiple times per page especially if you are seeing 15,20 or especially hundreds of connections. Sometimes though you have no real choice but to build a system that has to generate multiple queries, so don't judge the page simply on the number of queries but on the completity of the reporting and the number of database connections opened(you will occasionally need more than one if you arn't pulling all the results at once, using cursors or partial retrievals instead and have to have multiple result sets open at any given time). James Kilbride Hey James, Thanks for replying. Sorry, I guess i was not clear on that. Its just one connection, I meant 15-20 queries not connections. Thanks! Ryan -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Stripping weird characters again...
Dear All, I'm having a problem replacing these bad characters from a feed. Example: descriptionThe United Kingdom92s National Arena Association has elected Geoff Huckstep, the current CEO of the National Ice Centre and Nottingham Arena, as chairman./description The 92is actually a single quote. I have these from some of the data dumps. I can't figure out what exactly to strip. When I view the file in vi they appear like 92 93 94 (highlighted in blue like controll characters. Can someone point me in the right direction to purge this from my feed? Thank you, Paul Nowosielski Webmaster -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Stripping weird characters again...
Paul Nowosielski wrote: Dear All, I'm having a problem replacing these bad characters from a feed. Example: descriptionThe United Kingdom92s National Arena Association has elected Geoff Huckstep, the current CEO of the National Ice Centre and Nottingham Arena, as chairman./description The 92is actually a single quote. I have these from some of the data dumps. I can't figure out what exactly to strip. When I view the file in vi they appear like 92 93 94 (highlighted in blue like controll characters. Can someone point me in the right direction to purge this from my feed? Thank you, Paul Nowosielski Webmaster You want str_replace with arrays as parameters. Regards, Adam Zey. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Stripping weird characters again...
I understand I need to do a string replace.
Should I do it like so?
$search = array(chr(145),chr(146),chr(147),chr(148),chr(150),chr(151));
$replace = array(',','','','-','-');
Is this what you mean?
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On Monday 24 July 2006 16:12, Adam Zey wrote:
Paul Nowosielski wrote:
Dear All,
I'm having a problem replacing these bad characters from a feed.
Example:
descriptionThe United Kingdom92s National Arena Association has
elected Geoff Huckstep, the current CEO of the National Ice Centre and
Nottingham Arena, as chairman./description
The 92is actually a single quote. I have these from some of the data
dumps. I can't figure out what exactly to strip.
When I view the file in vi they appear like 92 93 94 (highlighted
in blue like controll characters.
Can someone point me in the right direction to purge this from my feed?
Thank you,
Paul Nowosielski
Webmaster
You want str_replace with arrays as parameters.
Regards, Adam Zey.
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Re: [PHP] Re: Stripping weird characters again...
It works, thank you!
On Monday 24 July 2006 16:21, Paul Nowosielski wrote:
I understand I need to do a string replace.
Should I do it like so?
$search = array(chr(145),chr(146),chr(147),chr(148),chr(150),chr(151));
$replace = array(',','','','-','-');
Is this what you mean?
Thank you,
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On Monday 24 July 2006 16:12, Adam Zey wrote:
Paul Nowosielski wrote:
Dear All,
I'm having a problem replacing these bad characters from a feed.
Example:
descriptionThe United Kingdom92s National Arena Association has
elected Geoff Huckstep, the current CEO of the National Ice Centre and
Nottingham Arena, as chairman./description
The 92is actually a single quote. I have these from some of the data
dumps. I can't figure out what exactly to strip.
When I view the file in vi they appear like 92 93 94 (highlighted
in blue like controll characters.
Can someone point me in the right direction to purge this from my feed?
Thank you,
Paul Nowosielski
Webmaster
You want str_replace with arrays as parameters.
Regards, Adam Zey.
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[PHP] SQL Result Set - HTML Table Fragment (but Simple)
Anyone have a PHP fragment that just prints a very simple html table from the contents of a db result set? I don't want phpmyadmin or anything remotely that complex. I want something that simply extracts the header info and prints a basic HTML table. It should be about 10 lines of code I suspect. If so, can you post it? Mike -- Michael B Allen PHP Extension for SSO w/ Windows Group Authorization http://www.ioplex.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: SQL Result Set - HTML Table Fragment (but Simple)
Michael B Allen wrote:
Anyone have a PHP fragment that just prints a very simple html table
from the contents of a db result set? I don't want phpmyadmin or anything
remotely that complex. I want something that simply extracts the header
info and prints a basic HTML table. It should be about 10 lines of code
I suspect. If so, can you post it?
Mike
Writing code in a mail window, so forgive any errors or ugly code. This
will print a table with the first row as headers of the field names, and
each row after that is a database row. I hope.
$firstrow = true;
echo table;
while ( $row = mysql_fetch_assoc($result) ) {
if ( $firstrow ) {
echo tr . implode(/trtr, array_keys($row)) . /tr;
$firstrow = false;
}
echo tr;
foreach ( $row as $value ) {
echo td$value/td;
}
echo /tr;
}
echo /table;
Essentially what it does is, loop over each row, and if we're the first
row, write out the headers, and for all rows, write out each field. I
haven't tested this, just typed it up from memory now, so I'm not sure
if it'll compile.
Regards, Adam Zey.
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[PHP] Re: SQL Result Set - HTML Table Fragment (but Simple)
Adam Zey wrote:
Michael B Allen wrote:
Anyone have a PHP fragment that just prints a very simple html table
from the contents of a db result set? I don't want phpmyadmin or anything
remotely that complex. I want something that simply extracts the header
info and prints a basic HTML table. It should be about 10 lines of code
I suspect. If so, can you post it?
Mike
Writing code in a mail window, so forgive any errors or ugly code. This
will print a table with the first row as headers of the field names, and
each row after that is a database row. I hope.
$firstrow = true;
echo table;
while ( $row = mysql_fetch_assoc($result) ) {
if ( $firstrow ) {
echo tr . implode(/trtr, array_keys($row)) . /tr;
$firstrow = false;
}
echo tr;
foreach ( $row as $value ) {
echo td$value/td;
}
echo /tr;
}
echo /table;
Essentially what it does is, loop over each row, and if we're the first
row, write out the headers, and for all rows, write out each field. I
haven't tested this, just typed it up from memory now, so I'm not sure
if it'll compile.
Regards, Adam Zey.
On second thought, I'm not sure why I didn't use implode for the second
one too, it makes things simpler (and possibly faster):
$firstrow = true;
echo table;
while ( $row = mysql_fetch_assoc($result) ) {
if ( $firstrow ) {
echo tr . implode(/trtr, array_keys($row)) . /tr;
$firstrow = false;
}
echo tr . implode(/trtr, $row) . /tr;
}
echo /table;
And BTW, this code assumes that you've done your MySQL query and have
$result as the return value of a mysql_query() call or something.
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Re: [PHP] Re: SQL Result Set - HTML Table Fragment (but Simple)
On Monday 24 July 2006 18:50, Adam Zey wrote:
Writing code in a mail window, so forgive any errors or ugly code. This
will print a table with the first row as headers of the field names, and
each row after that is a database row. I hope.
$firstrow = true;
echo table;
while ( $row = mysql_fetch_assoc($result) ) {
if ( $firstrow ) {
echo tr . implode(/trtr, array_keys($row)) . /tr;
$firstrow = false;
}
echo tr;
foreach ( $row as $value ) {
echo td$value/td;
}
echo /tr;
}
echo /table;
You don't need to pull the headers from the data, actually. You can access
the fields in the result object directly.
$result = mysql_query($sql);
echo table;
echo tr;
$num_fields = mysql_num_fields($result);
for($i=0; $i $num_fields; $i++) {
echo th, mysql_field_name($result, $i), /th;
}
echo /tr;
while ( $row = mysql_fetch_row($result) ) {
echo trtd . implode(/tdtd, $row) . /td/tr;
}
echo /table;
The above should work, I think. :-)
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[PHP] xml v php question
Hi gang: Why does starting my php script with -- ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? -- stop it from running? I would like to use php in a page, but the page has to begin with a xml declaration to generate a quirksmode for IE6 and under while permitting IE7 to be left in standards mode. We've tried it in both Wordpress and Textpattern and both are php and neither are able to parse a document with an xml declaration above the header. Is this problem solvable? I've been told that better minds have already tried and failed to resolve this issue. So, what say you group? Thanks in advance for any replies, comments, explanations, or solutions. tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] select option and php
Hi Jay ,
I am not in the javascript group.
Btw , i have added document.forms['listfrm'].pageid.value in the
page , but the form is not submitted ?
var pageid = document.forms['listfrm'].pageid.value;
var urlpath = ../listflag.php?start=pageID=+pageid;
document.forms['listfrm'].method = 'post'; -- did not submit form
at all
document.forms['listfrm'].action = urlpath;
document.forms['listfrm'].submit;
Any ideas why ? How to submit form when user change value in the select
tag ?
Thanks
Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
It will produce the html tag as shown below:
script language=JavaScript
function gotoPage(){
var urlpath = ../listflag.php?start=pageID=+3;
document.forms['listfrm'].method = 'post';
document.forms['listfrm'].action = urlpath;
document.forms['listfrm'].submit;
}
/script
form name=listfrm
Go to Page:select name=pageid class=inputfield
onchange=javascript:gotoPage()
option value=11/option
option value=22/option
option value=33/option
option value=44/option
option value=55/option
/select
/form
I tried using onchange in the select tag,but it did not work. It go to
the javascript but the form is not submitted .
Anyideas why?
[/snip]
In gotoPage() you're not referencing the value of pageid
(document.forms['listfrm'].pageid.value). More of a JavaScript question,
are you a member of a JavaScript list?
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Re: [PHP] xml v php question
Disable short tags. If short tags are enabled, the PHP parser sees the ? and switches into PHP mode. It then starts parsing the xml and sees that it's not proper PHP, and freaks out. You can: a) Use PHP to print out the XML declaration as a string: ?php print '?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?'; ? b) Disable short tags so that the PHP parser ignores ? and only recognizes ?php. The correct answer is (b). (PHP 6 won't even have short tags, so get used to not having them.) On Monday 24 July 2006 20:42, tedd wrote: Hi gang: Why does starting my php script with -- ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? -- stop it from running? I would like to use php in a page, but the page has to begin with a xml declaration to generate a quirksmode for IE6 and under while permitting IE7 to be left in standards mode. We've tried it in both Wordpress and Textpattern and both are php and neither are able to parse a document with an xml declaration above the header. Is this problem solvable? I've been told that better minds have already tried and failed to resolve this issue. So, what say you group? Thanks in advance for any replies, comments, explanations, or solutions. tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 6817012 If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. -- Thomas Jefferson -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] SQL Result Set - HTML Table Fragment (but Simple)
Ok, I've been tinkering a little. This isn't simple but it's not a
lot of code either.
Basically the user supplies an array of cell renderers associated
with column names. Each renderer is a function name that will be called
to modify an array() representing an HTML TD element. The result is
printed to yield an HTML table. I think this is pretty extensible. You
can render columns or individual cells differently depending on the text
or position of the coloumn or cell. You can format numbers and dates,
render buttons, ... whatever you want.
The first column renderer below renders every odd column a light shade
of grey. The second renderer demonstrates formmating a timestamp. The
third renderer colors the background of an individual cell green if the
numeric value is greater than 1000.
I'm a C person myself. Can someone clean this up / improve on it (e.g. how
can I pass parameters to renderers?).
Mike
function db_cr_shade_odd($td, $i) {
if (($i % 2) == 0) {
$td['style'] = background-color: #c0c0c0;;
}
return $td;
}
function db_cr_unix_ts_mdty($td, $i) {
if (isset($td['#text'])) {
$td['#text'] = date(M j, Y g:i a, $td['#text']);
}
return $td;
}
function db_result_print($result, $names, $renderers, $default_renderer) {
echo tr\n;
$i = 0;
while ($i mysql_num_fields($result)) {
$meta = mysql_fetch_field($result, $i);
$name = $meta-name;
if (isset($renderers[$name])) {
$renderers[$i] = $renderers[$name];
}
if (isset($names[$name])) {
$name = $names[$name];
}
echo th$name/td\n;
$i++;
}
echo /tr\n;
while ($row = mysql_fetch_array($result, MYSQL_ASSOC)) {
echo tr;
$i = 0;
foreach ($row as $str) {
$td = array('#text' = $str);
if ($default_renderer) {
$td = call_user_func($default_renderer, $td, $i);
}
if (isset($renderers[$i])) {
$td = call_user_func($renderers[$i], $td, $i);
}
echo td;
foreach ($td as $attr = $value) {
if (substr($attr, 0, 1) != '#') {
echo $attr=\$value\;
}
}
echo . $td['#text'] . /td;
$i++;
}
echo /tr\n;
}
}
// EXAMPLE USAGE
// custom renderer specific to invoice report
function db_cr_gt_1000($td, $i) {
$amount = $td['#text'];
if ($amount 1000.00) {
$td['style'] = background-color: #00ff00;;
}
return $td;
}
// pretty column names
$names = array(
invoice_id = ID,
invoice_date = Date,
invoice_amount = Amount,
invoice_transaction_id = Txn. ID,
invoice_approval_code = App. Code,
invoice_name = Name,
invoice_email = Email,
invoice_company = Company);
// renderers
$renderers = array(
invoice_date = db_cr_mysql_ts_mdyt,
invoice_amount = db_cr_gt_1000);
echo table class=\d\ border='0' cellpadding=\3\\n;
db_result_print($result, $names, $renderers, db_cr_shade_odd);
echo /table\n;
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Re: [PHP] PHP Developer Needed in San Jose, CA w/ Occasional Travel to Palo Alto
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 14:17 -0500, Franco Pawlisz wrote: My Client is specifically looking for a developer with strong front end PHP experience knowledge of Java and or Ruby is a major plus. What the heck is front end PHP, or am I misinterpreting the bad punctuation (or lack thereof)? --Paul All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/uwc2006/content/mail_disclaimer/index.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
