[PHP] Re: Environment variables in php.ini
Jim Lucas dedi ki: Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote: --8-- Is it possible at all to use environment variables in php.ini, or is there any other solution to the problem above? Thank you. Read this: http://us3.php.net/manual/en/configuration.php#configuration.file You can put a file in any other these locations that will be read by the cgi when it is started. my suggestion would be to use a single php.ini file in a global location. Then symlink a php.ini to there home directory or web root. Then set perms on the single global file such that only you can write to it, but everybody can read it. This should work for you. That was also my first inclination but I had to abandon it, because then I couldn't give different parameters for different virtual hosts. For instance currently I (have to) centrally use error_log=php_error.log and this causes a php_error.log been created everywhere (as I can't give absolute address, each php script creates a log in the directory it resides in.) If only I would have been able to give something to the effect of php_error=$HOME/php_error.log then every user would've had only one log file. Another drawback with central read-only php.ini is that users won't be able to tweak php.ini to certain extent (but not much - just like php_flag and php_value). With cgi-php, users are either too restricted (r/o php.ini) or too free (r/w php.ini). Thanks and regards -- Abdullah Ramazanoglu aramazan ÄT myrealbox D0T cöm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] HELP with mail()
On 4/6/07, Zhimmy Kanata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I created the following email program from a email function that I know works
in another program.
When I create a simple form page listed below and submit it. It echos the
$email and the $username and it writes it to the page. So it is finding the
variables within the transfering url in the form of a post. It doesn't give me
an error message but I don't get an email? Should the Linux server not be
executing the mail() function?
What the beep!???
Again thanks in advance for any help.
Zhimmy
?php
$email = strtolower($email);
echo $email, $username;
function sendEmail($email, $username) {
$mailTo = $username $email;
$mailSubject = Your registration confirmation...;
$mailBody = Dear $name,\n\nYour details have been added to my email list.\n\n To
unsubscribe click on the link
below\nhttp://www.sitename.com/mail.php?action=unsubscribeemail=$email;;
mail($email, Registration Confirmation, $mailBody,
From: \r\n
.Reply-To: \r\n
.X-Mailer: PHP/ . phpversion());
}
?
snip
Try hardcoding the email, i've seen this problem more on this list.Try
the code below and see if it solves your problem.
Tijnema
?php
$email = strtolower($email);
echo $email, $username;
function sendEmail($email, $username) {
$mailTo = $username $email;
$mailSubject = Your registration confirmation...;
$mailBody = Dear $name,\n\nYour details have been added to my
email list.\n\n To unsubscribe click on the link
below\nhttp://www.sitename.com/mail.php?action=unsubscribeemail=$email;;
mail([EMAIL PROTECTED], Registration Confirmation, $mailBody,
From: \r\n
.Reply-To: \r\n
.X-Mailer: PHP/ . phpversion());
}
?
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Re: [PHP] PHP textbook suggestions?
2007. 04. 5, csütörtök keltezéssel 20.29-kor itoctopus ezt írta:
I beg to differ with everyone who said there's no difference between the
single quote and double quote.
Although the double quote is much more flexible, the single quote is better,
as there will be no evaluation of the string for potential variables inside
the string.
at the opcode level there is no difference if there are no variables
involved. of course, the compiler in the first pass must check for
variables within double quotes, but it does check strings within single
quotes also - for escaped characters and stuff like that.
greets
Zoltán Németh
And Chris, about the book, go for PHP5 Power Programming by Prentice Hall,
it's the best in the market in my opinion, it teaches the language itself,
as well as best practices, all in an OOP twist.
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On 4/5/07, Zoltn Nmeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2007. 04. 5, cstrtk keltezssel 12.52-kor Chris Lott ezt rta:
Looking for suggestions for a PHP textbook for an Intro to Web
Programming class that will be using PHP5 and MySQL. This is a
first-semester course, so no programming experience required.
It would be nice to have a text that adhered to (what I see as) good
practice using quotation marks... i.e.
print 'The cost is ' . $cost;
NOT
print The cost is $cost;
AND CERTAINLY NOT
print (The cost is $cost);
echo substr('abcdef', 1);
NOT
echo substr(abcdef, 1);
there is no difference between the above two echo statements. I'm almost
sure that there is absolutely zero difference between the two kind of
quotes when there are no variables involved
greets
Zoltn Nmeth
I prefer using double quotes ( ) around strings, because i don't
have to escape single quotes (' ') in words like I'm, don't, etc.
Tijnema
I will be teaching, so a book that a student can-- before the class--
work through and understand is good-- doesn't have to be a traditional
textbook! But it shouldn't be a reference manual either.
c
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Re: [PHP] Using /index.php/this/that/343/3 style links but having a prob!
2007. 04. 5, csütörtök keltezéssel 19.01-kor Mike Shanley ezt írta:
Hi,
I'm trying to make friends with search-engines, but I'm having a problem.
When I use my links (right now, I've only got the forums on my site up),
they take me to the right place, however, the browser only displays part
of the url...
for instance:
http://www.omniversalism.com/index.php/forums/fcat/view/1
will take you to a page titled O.com Connections
but the link shows:
http://www.omniversalism.com/index.php/forums
which would take you to the main forums page...
So what's going on???
I don't know, everything works OK for me on Linux/Firefox
greets
Zoltán Németh
The only code that deal with this is:
$CALL = array_values(array_unique(explode('/',$PHP_SELF)));
unset($CALL[0],$CALL[(array_search('index.php',$CALL))]);
$CALL = array_values($CALL);
and all that does is hand me the info to call my pages...
Thanks
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[PHP] PHP textbook suggestions?
I think PHP Architect's Zend PHP5 certification Study guide is good. as authors indicate in the book: We wrote php|architect's Zend PHP 5 Certification Study Guide with the specific intent of making it useful in two situations: • For candidates who are preparing for the Zend exam • For student of instructor-led classes who are approaching and studying PHP for the first time Dan
[PHP] How to disable the Daylight saving time in PHP 5?
I need to disable the Daylight saving time in PHP 5. My servers (Windows, both XP and Vista) have correct local time but PHP 5 adds an extra hour when I use date(H) or other time functions. Instead of getting 9 AM, I get 10 AM. If I run date(I), I get 1, which confirms that PHP 5 is using Daylight saving time. If I change the system date to January I get correct hour. I have tried google.com and I ran through the php.net manual but I didn't find a solution. I cannot add time-fix on every php-page, they are to many. Regards, Summi Netfang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Heimasíða http://www.sed.is -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] How to disable the Daylight saving time in PHP 5?
On 4/6/07, SED [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to disable the Daylight saving time in PHP 5. My servers (Windows, both XP and Vista) have correct local time but PHP 5 adds an extra hour when I use date(H) or other time functions. Instead of getting 9 AM, I get 10 AM. If I run date(I), I get 1, which confirms that PHP 5 is using Daylight saving time. If I change the system date to January I get correct hour. I have tried google.com and I ran through the php.net manual but I didn't find a solution. I cannot add time-fix on every php-page, they are to many. Regards, Summi Netfang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Heimasíða http://www.sed.is I don't know a way to disable DST, but you can change your timezone in the php.ini, so that you set it an hour back again :) manual about date.timezone: http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.datetime.php#ini.date.timezone Tijnema -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] How to disable the Daylight saving time in PHP 5?
Tijnema ! wrote: On 4/6/07, SED [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to disable the Daylight saving time in PHP 5. My servers (Windows, both XP and Vista) have correct local time but PHP 5 these are not servers - they barely run something worthy of calling an OS. adds an extra hour when I use date(H) or other time functions. Instead of getting 9 AM, I get 10 AM. If I run date(I), I get 1, which confirms that PHP 5 is using Daylight saving time. If I change the system date to January I get correct hour. I have tried google.com and I ran through the php.net manual but I didn't find a solution. I cannot add time-fix on every php-page, they are to many. Regards, Summi Netfang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Heimasíða http://www.sed.is I don't know a way to disable DST, but you can change your timezone in the php.ini, so that you set it an hour back again :) manual about date.timezone: http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.datetime.php#ini.date.timezone yeah - chances are the default timezone is not your timezone - setting the correct one may fix it. also what happens if you turn of the windows 'auto update DST' setting? Tijnema -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] How to disable the Daylight saving time in PHP 5?
I changed my timezone in php.ini to: date.timezone = GMT0 ; ...and it works! Thanks! Regards, Summi Netfang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Heimasíða http://www.sed.is -Original Message- From: Tijnema ! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 6. apríl 2007 09:43 To: SED Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] How to disable the Daylight saving time in PHP 5? On 4/6/07, SED [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to disable the Daylight saving time in PHP 5. My servers (Windows, both XP and Vista) have correct local time but PHP 5 adds an extra hour when I use date(H) or other time functions. Instead of getting 9 AM, I get 10 AM. If I run date(I), I get 1, which confirms that PHP 5 is using Daylight saving time. If I change the system date to January I get correct hour. I have tried google.com and I ran through the php.net manual but I didn't find a solution. I cannot add time-fix on every php-page, they are to many. Regards, Summi Netfang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Heimasíða http://www.sed.is I don't know a way to disable DST, but you can change your timezone in the php.ini, so that you set it an hour back again :) manual about date.timezone: http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.datetime.php#ini.date.timezone Tijnema -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] How to disable the Daylight saving time in PHP 5?
The Windows clocks are correct. The PHP 5 added always one hour. However, Tijnema pointed me to his solution: Change in php.ini date.timezone = GMT0 And therefore it will not add one hour to the system clock which is correct. Regards, Summi Netfang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Heimasíða http://www.sed.is -Original Message- From: Jochem Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 6. apríl 2007 10:06 To: Tijnema ! Cc: SED; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] How to disable the Daylight saving time in PHP 5? Tijnema ! wrote: On 4/6/07, SED [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to disable the Daylight saving time in PHP 5. My servers (Windows, both XP and Vista) have correct local time but PHP 5 these are not servers - they barely run something worthy of calling an OS. adds an extra hour when I use date(H) or other time functions. Instead of getting 9 AM, I get 10 AM. If I run date(I), I get 1, which confirms that PHP 5 is using Daylight saving time. If I change the system date to January I get correct hour. I have tried google.com and I ran through the php.net manual but I didn't find a solution. I cannot add time-fix on every php-page, they are to many. Regards, Summi Netfang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Heimasíða http://www.sed.is I don't know a way to disable DST, but you can change your timezone in the php.ini, so that you set it an hour back again :) manual about date.timezone: http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.datetime.php#ini.date.timezone yeah - chances are the default timezone is not your timezone - setting the correct one may fix it. also what happens if you turn of the windows 'auto update DST' setting? Tijnema -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP textbook suggestions?
Danial Rahmanzadeh wrote: I think PHP Architect's Zend PHP5 certification Study guide is good. as authors indicate in the book: We wrote php|architect's Zend PHP 5 Certification Study Guide with the specific intent of making it useful in two situations: • For candidates who are preparing for the Zend exam • For student of instructor-led classes who are approaching and studying PHP for the first time the OP made the point that his class would [probably] contain people with no programming experience (it was not a prerequisite) ... in the context of the Study Guide you mention I hope that 'studying php for the first time' does not mean the same as 'no programming experience' ... if it does then that puts the bar very low for Zend Certification, because, let's be honest, unless your a genius, it really does take a while before someone reaches a certain level of professionalism with regard to programming ... it's somewhat more involved than mowing the lawn. I have always assumed that Zend Certification implied a certain level of professionalism that one cannot expect from complete newcomers, maybe I'm mistaken. Dan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] DOMDocument::schemaValidate() - libxml_get_errors()
Tijnema ! wrote: On 4/5/07, Sébastien WENSKE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes it's exactly the error, see the output : DOMDocument::schemaValidate() Generated Errors! Error 1871: Element 'EcheanceRMC': This element is not expected. in file:///D%3A/wamp/www/XML%20Validator/xml/Edit4.xml on line 65535 - that's wrong the real line number is upper [...] ... I don't think it has to do with integer, unless you're running in 16bit mode.. (PHP can't even run under 16bit i guess..). An integer could a lot more. I think there are 2 options that make this error: 1) The libxml library itself doesn't support it. 2) The PHP bindings with the libxml don't support it. In the first case you would need to contact the libxml authors, in the second case, you might want to write a patch that fixes it :) It is due to the structure in libxml2 (the line number in this case is defined as unsigned short). This has been brought up before and wont be changing as it would break API/AB compatibility. There really is little you can do here. Rob -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] link counting
i thought of an idea of counting the number of links to reduce comment spam.
unfortunately my methods is not reliable, i haven't tested it yet
though.. anyone have maybe a better solution using some regexp?
$links = array('http://', 'https://', 'www.');
$total_links = 0;
foreach($links as $link)
{
$total_links = substr_count($string, $link);
}
if($total_links X)
{
.
}
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Re: [PHP] Audio CAPTCHA review request
At 6:36 PM -0400 4/5/07, Robert Cummings wrote: But still, relying on Javascript is a bit flakey IMHO. There's nothing wrong with javascript -- you just need to know it's limitations. My audio captcha relies on javascript, namely ajax. The problem I had was how to deliver the sound once the user requested it from the main page. I used bgsound and embed tags to accomplish that after browser sniffing. However, those tags had to be in a new page to play, which required a refresh. After that, the user had to be sent back to the main page to enter the key, which required another refresh. A screen reader will re-read each page out-loud upon each refresh and that was unacceptable. So, I used ajax to change the main page without a refresh using an iframe tag. That way the sound file was played without refreshing anything. I thought that clever. :-) In this case, there was no way to get around using javascript. However, that's not a problem for visually impaired users nor is it a security issue. At 6:36 PM -0400 4/5/07, Robert Cummings wrote: Perhaps using two combined systems... more traditional obscured writing on image captcha, or a simple mathematical question for texties, or the system you presented with an audible ding for blind people to know they are within the field of success. That's the idea unless I can come up with a way that would be accessible to all. I think simple captchas like type in the number seven four six would be one, but that appears easy to crack. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] link counting
On 4/6/07, Sebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i thought of an idea of counting the number of links to reduce comment spam.
unfortunately my methods is not reliable, i haven't tested it yet
though.. anyone have maybe a better solution using some regexp?
$links = array('http://', 'https://', 'www.');
$total_links = 0;
foreach($links as $link)
{
$total_links = substr_count($string, $link);
}
if($total_links X)
{
.
}
I don't have a better way, but links starting with http://www. or
https://www. are counted twice in your script...
Tijnema
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RE: [PHP] link counting
[snip]
i thought of an idea of counting the number of links to reduce comment
spam.
unfortunately my methods is not reliable, i haven't tested it yet
though.. anyone have maybe a better solution using some regexp?
$links = array('http://', 'https://', 'www.');
$total_links = 0;
foreach($links as $link)
{
$total_links = substr_count($string, $link);
}
if($total_links X)
{
.
}
[/snip]
External links or internal links? Regardless, start with counting anchor
tags. If you need to make it more granular you can work from there with
regex.
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Re: [PHP] Audio CAPTCHA review request
On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 09:08 -0400, tedd wrote: At 6:36 PM -0400 4/5/07, Robert Cummings wrote: But still, relying on Javascript is a bit flakey IMHO. There's nothing wrong with javascript -- you just need to know it's limitations. *lol* You misunderstood me, I'm in no way dissing on Javascript, in fact I love Javascript, I wish we could re-bind functions and stuff (without runkit :) and have closures in PHP. What I'm saying is that's it's a fairly poor choice from an accessibility perspective. My audio captcha relies on javascript, namely ajax. The problem I had was how to deliver the sound once the user requested it from the main page. I used bgsound and embed tags to accomplish that after browser sniffing. However, those tags had to be in a new page to play, which required a refresh. Why do you need to refresh? I had a DHTML/Ajax chat client I built and I just pumped flash tags into a div to play tones when new messages were detected. I didn't bother browser sniffing though, just made the assumption that flash existed. After that, the user had to be sent back to the main page to enter the key, which required another refresh. A screen reader will re-read each page out-loud upon each refresh and that was unacceptable. So, I used ajax to change the main page without a refresh using an iframe tag. That way the sound file was played without refreshing anything. I thought that clever. :-) In this case, there was no way to get around using javascript. However, that's not a problem for visually impaired users nor is it a security issue. At 6:36 PM -0400 4/5/07, Robert Cummings wrote: Perhaps using two combined systems... more traditional obscured writing on image captcha, or a simple mathematical question for texties, or the system you presented with an audible ding for blind people to know they are within the field of success. That's the idea unless I can come up with a way that would be accessible to all. I think simple captchas like type in the number seven four six would be one, but that appears easy to crack. I think in general, unless you're hosting a hugely popular site, few wil attempt to custom crack your site's captcha -- there's an expected value investment to going to the trouble. Perhaps a good system would be to treat captcha algorithms like passwords, and change the way it works every few weeks :) On of the great things about the English language is that so many things can be written in so many ways. One of the bad things about the English language is that so many things can be written in so many ways. :B Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Audio CAPTCHA review request
At 7:54 PM +0200 4/5/07, Tijnema ! wrote: About your dot-captcha program tedd, it's another trick, it hasn't been used yet, so somebody needs to look at it to crack. Like Jochem said, if someone really wants to break it, he will do it. Making a real though CAPTCHA isn't that hard, it's hard to create a CAPTCHA that's easy to the user, but very hard to bots. I realize that no captcha will be 100 percent successful in keeping spammy out for if it was then spammy would hire cheap human help to defeat them. However, that's more expensive than a bots and I like making spammy's job harder and more expensive. Side note -- I've actually had spammy single me out and do all sorts of nasty stuff, so my efforts are not going unnoticed. I was thinking about animation, very simple like a moving dot. Did it move from left to right, right to left, top to bottom or bottom to top? What about the dyslexic? I had a similar idea in that I would present a string like A7F3 where I would ask Please enter the second character from the left. Unfortunately, those who are dyslexic would have problems with that. As animated images/flash/movies are really though items to parse for a bot. So just creating an AVI made up from a few simple frames. Everyone can see if which side the dot moves. But yet, there's no movie support in PHP, i discussed this on the internals list, but nobody seems interested, and this is the case i need it again :). For animated images, I use gifs (like a spinning wait gif). Your idea could be done with that, but again asking someone which way the dot moves is not accessible -- it even narrows the numbers for the sighted group. I was thinking about creating random frames from PHP(also a random number, with different frame rates) and then creating an movie from that frames. I prefer no compression then, because that would require the user to install decoders. I think these days every user has a browser supporting inline movies right? I know, this wouldn't stop the semi-automatic bots, but i think these are very hard to stop. (Unstoppable maybe?) Php animation could be done via ajax. You need to have something on the user's side to communicate when to run each php frame. This is similar to trying to write a php progress bar for up/down-loading -- it's a question of communication and timing. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Error after add php_apc.dll
Hi All, I'm just add php_apc.dll in my module, but when I'm restart apache there error as : The instruction at 0x097f2e5e referenced memory at 0x0019. The memory could not be read. Is this cause of the module or apache itself? Thanks in advance bn
Re: [PHP] Audio CAPTCHA review request
On 4/6/07, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 7:54 PM +0200 4/5/07, Tijnema ! wrote: About your dot-captcha program tedd, it's another trick, it hasn't been used yet, so somebody needs to look at it to crack. Like Jochem said, if someone really wants to break it, he will do it. Making a real though CAPTCHA isn't that hard, it's hard to create a CAPTCHA that's easy to the user, but very hard to bots. I realize that no captcha will be 100 percent successful in keeping spammy out for if it was then spammy would hire cheap human help to defeat them. However, that's more expensive than a bots and I like making spammy's job harder and more expensive. Side note -- I've actually had spammy single me out and do all sorts of nasty stuff, so my efforts are not going unnoticed. I was thinking about animation, very simple like a moving dot. Did it move from left to right, right to left, top to bottom or bottom to top? What about the dyslexic? I had a similar idea in that I would present a string like A7F3 where I would ask Please enter the second character from the left. Unfortunately, those who are dyslexic would have problems with that. Nah, maybe clarify it with images, then nobody would have trouble seeing what it does,atleast everyone that still can see :) As animated images/flash/movies are really though items to parse for a bot. So just creating an AVI made up from a few simple frames. Everyone can see if which side the dot moves. But yet, there's no movie support in PHP, i discussed this on the internals list, but nobody seems interested, and this is the case i need it again :). For animated images, I use gifs (like a spinning wait gif). Your idea could be done with that, but again asking someone which way the dot moves is not accessible -- it even narrows the numbers for the sighted group. I know, but animated gifs are still quite easy to read with a bot. I was thinking about creating random frames from PHP(also a random number, with different frame rates) and then creating an movie from that frames. I prefer no compression then, because that would require the user to install decoders. I think these days every user has a browser supporting inline movies right? I know, this wouldn't stop the semi-automatic bots, but i think these are very hard to stop. (Unstoppable maybe?) Php animation could be done via ajax. You need to have something on the user's side to communicate when to run each php frame. This is similar to trying to write a php progress bar for up/down-loading -- it's a question of communication and timing. Cheers, tedd Also using this solution, it probably will work, but it will be easy to crack Tijnema -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Simple question on simplexml
I have a catalog in XML format: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1 ? catalog book ... book book ... book ... /catalog Now I want to add another book, which I have as a SimpleXMLElement: $book = new SimpleXMLElement($string); where $string reads book ... book Can I add this new entry to the catalog using SimpleXML functions, or do I have to introduce a DOMDocument? As may be obvious, I am very new to PHP programming; and advice or suggestions gratefully received. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Audio CAPTCHA review request
At 10:17 AM -0400 4/5/07, Jason Pruim wrote: There has to be some commonality -- any suggestions? Would it be possible to change the phrase in your audio captcha depending on the character set chosen by the user? In other words, if someone is using a chinese character set, could you have it say 3 5 7 in chinese? Certainly, that's possible. However, I don't speak any of those languages. I did think of a way if a user wanted to use my technique could speak a single phrase counting from zero to nine and my software could create the necessary files from that. So, that could be done -- however, I don't have the resources/people to distribute it. Or maybe just have a button to select to play it in chinese (Or french, dutch, spanish, etc. etc.) Interesting -- I had a lengthy discussion as to what that button would be. I thought a flag icon would do, but wouldn't work. The best solution was to use text of the language to spell the language. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP textbook suggestions?
I'd still like some actual recommendations for a good book for beginners. I think this discussion is getting a little ridiculous... I have my preferences for a textbook based on 5 years of experience in teaching this class. Of course I teach my students about superfluous parentheses as in: print (me); And the difference in quoting styles... But these are COMPLETE beginners, even beyond beginners, many having never even really thought about programming. I am lucky if 1/2 of them have basic HTML. So they get easily confused by differences in sample code... sure they learn, eventually, to deal with that, but if I can avoid making it harder on them I will. I prefer not having variables in double quotes for the most part-- syntax highlighters do a better job, and in the confusing (especially for a beginners) jumble of quoted HTML attributes and PHP syntax, etc... it is easier to spot and see the variables. And it reinforces the difference between displaying a variable and its contents. All that being said, I've yet to see two books that are consistent with one another, much less with me, so I said it was a PREFERENCE. All of your argument has resulted in-- as far as I can tell-- one anti-recommendation. So if anyone has any productive ideas for a good textbook for beginners, my ears are open. c -- Chris Lott -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP textbook suggestions?
I see a couple of recommendations for textbooks now... thanks. As to why I think one style is good or bad-- probably the same reasons any of you prefer yours + in my experience, the style that I have adopted is the easiest for the beginners to understand and not be confused by. This list (naturally) underestimates how hard it is for non-techie, non naturally tech-inclined newbies to approach language syntax. The quotation thing is a good example-- they are taught about interpolation and trying to learn about quotation marks and escaping and when each is appropriate, then they are shown code like: echo substr(abcdef, 1); So they naturally want to know-- why the double quotes? And there's no good logical reason for double quotes in the example-- and there are languages where the function could take a variable to be interpolated that DOES need double quotes-- so it is very confusing to them. If I CAN, I would like to avoid that confusion so *I* Can teach them about the differences. Similarly my preference and teaching that they keep variables out of quotes-- it's a style thing, something I consider good practice, something I see most code examples I find use, so if I could find a text that did it, that would be great. For that matter, even a text that didn't do it but was CONSISTENT. It's amazing how many books are totally inconsistent. These students aren't at a level where inconsistency is the best approach to stimulating their learning. They get there, but it takes a while. c -- Chris Lott -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] PHP textbook suggestions?
[snip] I see a couple of recommendations for textbooks now... thanks. [/snip] One of the problems is trying to find a textbook for beginning programmers, then adding the specifics of PHP on top of it. The best that I can think of would be PHP for Dummies as it assumes no prior programming experience, is a light-hearted read, and covers such basic topics as why double quotes and basic logic. You will even get a dose of OOP thrown in for good measure. Things like quoting styles are the foundations for holy wars, much like the wars concerning print v. echo, bracket style, etc. and really have no relevance to what you are trying to do (I appreciate those who weighed in on the subject...but it was of little help to the OP). There are several good PHP books out, but most if not all assume a certain level of experience with regards to programming; procedural v. OOP, a knowledge of HTML, etc. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Audio CAPTCHA review request
At 9:24 AM -0400 4/6/07, Robert Cummings wrote: What I'm saying is that's it's a fairly poor choice from an accessibility perspective. I thought that as well, but it seems that at least visually impaired users using screen readers don't have any problems with it. Not that I have any support for this claim, but perhaps relying on a screen reader requires it's use -- I don't know. My audio captcha relies on javascript, namely ajax. The problem I had was how to deliver the sound once the user requested it from the main page. I used bgsound and embed tags to accomplish that after browser sniffing. However, those tags had to be in a new page to play, which required a refresh. Why do you need to refresh? I had a DHTML/Ajax chat client I built and I just pumped flash tags into a div to play tones when new messages were detected. I didn't bother browser sniffing though, just made the assumption that flash existed. I tried flash, see: http://sperling.com/examples/assorted-captcha/ but that required that flash to be turned on and not all visually impaired users have a need for flash. In fact, if you do use flash, then you have to tell them or they don't know what you're trying to do. It was much simpler to do it the way I did with just html. I think in general, unless you're hosting a hugely popular site, few wil attempt to custom crack your site's captcha -- there's an expected value investment to going to the trouble. Perhaps a good system would be to treat captcha algorithms like passwords, and change the way it works every few weeks I've thought about creating a database that would provide questions and answers for my captcha's. That way I could add questions everyday creating thousands of different combinations of simple questions. However, this would require the user to have his own dB and update his dB from my site periodically -- thus, a bit more sophisticated user. I would be willing to do this once I'm convinced that this method would be more accessible than any other. However, it would be a simple matter for spammy to download all the keys from my site and use them thus defeating the whole idea, duh. So, if I was to support this method, then each capatcha user would have to come up with their own questions, which could be problematic. Need to think more. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Audio CAPTCHA review request
At 2:55 PM +0100 4/6/07, Tijnema ! wrote: I know, but animated gifs are still quite easy to read with a bot. Really? What if I a created a box surrounded by letters, like so: A B C D E F G H I However, where E is located I have a gif (animated or not) pointing to a letter, which would be the key. How would a bot read that? Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: link counting
On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 09:01:20 -0400, Sebe wrote:
i thought of an idea of counting the number of links to reduce comment spam.
unfortunately my methods is not reliable, i haven't tested it yet
though.. anyone have maybe a better solution using some regexp?
$links = array('http://', 'https://', 'www.');
$total_links = 0;
foreach($links as $link)
{
$total_links = substr_count($string, $link);
}
if($total_links X)
{
.
}
What I use:
function check_bad_content($string)
{
// Stuff that spammers post with:
$bad_strings = array('www.','/url]','ttp://','ttps://') ;
foreach( $bad_strings as $bad_string )
{
if ( ereg( $bad_string, $string ) ) return false ;
}
return true;
} // E-O- function check_bad_content
I permit _*NO*_ URL's on my message board. I guess you could just as
easily count them in the function above -- versus setting TRUE/FALSE.
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Re: [PHP] Idea/Suggestion for PHP App
At 2:06 PM -0500 4/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey... I am new to the list so please forgive me if I say anything that might have already been discussed. So here we go... OK I am attempting to start a new application using PHP. I have started and stoped this application now 2 times cause I get moving then I stop realizing I should have done this work before hand and in a differant way. I was wondering does anyone have any places I can read on how develope a PHP Web application like what area should I start with first, what are somethings I need to think about before hand. The application I am working on is Database driven app. It will have data inserted into the DB from various data sources that are manually entered. However I need to develope the app as dynamic as possible for future add-ons... I know I am probably biting off more then I can chew at this time... So any pointers or exampled (which would be great) on how to start an app from scratch and also how to use OOP (Which I have a feeling is what I need to learn) would be wonderful. Thank you all for any help you can provide. Thanks, Billy S. Billy: The best advice I can give you is to buy several php/mysql books and read them. Then implement the examples they give you and slowly build all the routines you will need to create your application. The idea that you can create a complicated application without knowing how, is filed with unnecessary complications and frustrations -- don't do it. As with ALL programming problems -- start small, reduce all problems into smaller problems that you can solve. Then assemble the small solutions together after careful consideration of what you're trying to do. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Idea/Suggestion for PHP App
At 9:59 PM +0200 4/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and yes, I (still) use paper and pencil because never find good app for it. if you can recommend - I'll be more than happy to use it and stop wasting paper (agree with you on poor tree :D) -afan Pencil and paper? What's that? I had a good friend who said -- A program is nothing more than three steps: input; calculation; and display. I've always found that's a good start. tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP textbook suggestions?
Chris Lott wrote: I'd still like some actual recommendations for a good book for beginners. I think this discussion is getting a little ridiculous... I have my preferences for a textbook based on 5 years of experience in teaching this class. Of course I teach my students about superfluous parentheses as in: print (me); And the difference in quoting styles... But these are COMPLETE beginners, even beyond beginners, many having never even really thought about programming. I am lucky if 1/2 of them have basic HTML. So they get easily confused by differences in sample code... sure they learn, eventually, to deal with that, but if I can avoid making it harder on them I will. I prefer not having variables in double quotes for the most part-- syntax highlighters do a better job, and in the confusing (especially for a beginners) jumble of quoted HTML attributes and PHP syntax, etc... it is easier to spot and see the variables. And it reinforces the difference between displaying a variable and its contents. All that being said, I've yet to see two books that are consistent with one another, much less with me, so I said it was a PREFERENCE. All of your argument has resulted in-- as far as I can tell-- one anti-recommendation. which Jay completely countered ;-) So if anyone has any productive ideas for a good textbook for beginners, my ears are open. I don't have personal experience with beginner books but the following caught my attention, it seems to have pretty good reader reviews: http://www.amazon.com/PHP-MySQL-Dynamic-Web-Sites/dp/0321186486/sr=8-6/qid=1162762408/ref=pd_bbs_6/002-0085017-3836034?ie=UTF8s=books c -- Chris Lott -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Simple question on simplexml
there is this: http://php.net/manual/en/function.simplexml-element-addChild.php which will allow adding of string data (so you won't be needing to create the new SimpleXMLElement object as per your example below). obviously you will have to first load tghe complete xml document into simplexml using one of the following: http://php.net/manual/en/function.simplexml-load-file.php http://php.net/manual/en/function.simplexml-load-string.php Timothy Murphy wrote: I have a catalog in XML format: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1 ? catalog book ... book book ... book ... /catalog Now I want to add another book, which I have as a SimpleXMLElement: $book = new SimpleXMLElement($string); where $string reads book ... book Can I add this new entry to the catalog using SimpleXML functions, or do I have to introduce a DOMDocument? As may be obvious, I am very new to PHP programming; and advice or suggestions gratefully received. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Idea/Suggestion for PHP App
At 4:23 PM -0400 4/5/07, Robert Cummings wrote: I use two things... my brain for the overall idea. A notes.txt file for specific remarks that are too complicated to keep up top :) Cheers, Rob. I use: 1) my vast (literally hundreds) of working examples created from dozens of my php, mysql, ajax, html, and javascript books; 2) online resources; 3) and hundreds of various common functions stored in my notes application Yojimbo. From there, it's a matter of assembling the right routines to solve the problem at hand. It's kind of a learned the hard way perspective to design patterns. I'm one of those types that think nothing is impossible with the right money and enough time. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] link counting
At 4/6/2007 06:01 AM, Sebe wrote: i thought of an idea of counting the number of links to reduce comment spam. I do this by counting the number of 'http://' instances in the text. You can use a variety of PHP functions: - substr_count() - preg_match_all() then count() the result array - str_split() then count() - preg_split() then count() preg_split() is useful if you want to split the text by more than one string; simply separate alternative strings in the pattern with the pipe: '(http://|a )' However, in my personal experience, contact form spam links always contain 'http://' but they're not always couched in anchor tags, so I've never found the need to search for more than the one pattern. substr_count() is case-sensitive so you'll want to make a copy of the message text lowercase using strtolower() to catch all variants of http|HTTP|Http|... substr_count() is probably also faster than the regular expression functions -- not that a difference of microseconds or milliseconds need necessarily concern you if you're not executing many iterations. I usually set the limit of permissible links to three. Since it's entirely possible that a genuine correspondent might send more than three links someday, I don't throw away suspect messages but instead send them to my own mailbox coded so they're easy to catch and file on receipt; that way I can monitor the health of the system and watch for false positives while still shielding my clients from spam. Typically I'll display an error message when someone fills out a contact form incorrectly, for example asking them to enter a valid email address. Recently, however, I've stopped warning the sender if they try to send a message that looks like spam because I don't want to tech spammers how to circumvent my criteria. I send the suspect message to my monitoring mailbox instead of to the intended recipient and let the spammers think they've succeeded. I feared at first that this would encourage spammers to use my contact forms more, but it hasn't appeared to have had that effect. Documentation links: http://php.net/count http://php.net/pcre.pattern.syntax http://php.net/preg_match_all http://php.net/preg_match_all http://php.net/preg_split http://php.net/strtolower http://php.net/substr-count Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Idea/Suggestion for PHP App
At 1:36 PM -0700 4/5/07, Warren Vail wrote: (Google is also your friend :-)). Look for code and modules that you can employ in your solutions Let me add to that -- sometimes when I am trying to see how a function/technique/code is used, I simply take a quoted portion of the code and Google it. It's surprising how many examples you can find to review as to how others implemented that small piece of code. This is truly a resource that has never been there for programmers before. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Idea/Suggestion for PHP App
On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 11:41 -0400, tedd wrote: At 4:23 PM -0400 4/5/07, Robert Cummings wrote: I use two things... my brain for the overall idea. A notes.txt file for specific remarks that are too complicated to keep up top :) Cheers, Rob. I use: 1) my vast (literally hundreds) of working examples created from dozens of my php, mysql, ajax, html, and javascript books; 2) online resources; 3) and hundreds of various common functions stored in my notes application Yojimbo. From there, it's a matter of assembling the right routines to solve the problem at hand. It's kind of a learned the hard way perspective to design patterns. I'm one of those types that think nothing is impossible with the right money and enough time. All these things require your brain. Thank you, I'll be here all day :) Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Bug with passing objects by reference and assigning a defeault null?
Has anyone tried to assign a default value of null for an object passed
by reference in PHP4?
Let's say I had this code:
$mObj = new testModel();
$mObj-msg = Bubba;
testFunc();
class testModel {
var $msg;
}
function testFunc($msg=null) {
echo $msg-msg;
}
Under PHP5, this works fine.
Under PHP4, the = will cause an error: Parse error: syntax error,
unexpected '=', expecting ')'. Removing the in the parameter
definition makes it work. I'm using 4.4.2 right now, but don't see
anything in the later change logs that say this was fixed. I also don't
find any mention of it in the bugs list. Is this a legit bug or am I
committing a big no-no?
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Re: [PHP] Bug with passing objects by reference and assigning a defeault null?
On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 12:19 -0400, Shu Chow wrote:
Has anyone tried to assign a default value of null for an object passed
by reference in PHP4?
Let's say I had this code:
$mObj = new testModel();
$mObj-msg = Bubba;
testFunc();
class testModel {
var $msg;
}
function testFunc($msg=null) {
echo $msg-msg;
}
Under PHP5, this works fine.
Under PHP4, the = will cause an error: Parse error: syntax error,
unexpected '=', expecting ')'. Removing the in the parameter
definition makes it work. I'm using 4.4.2 right now, but don't see
anything in the later change logs that say this was fixed. I also don't
find any mention of it in the bugs list. Is this a legit bug or am I
committing a big no-no?
Not a bug, it's a limitation of PHP4.
Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] Audio CAPTCHA review request
On 4/6/07, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 2:55 PM +0100 4/6/07, Tijnema ! wrote: I know, but animated gifs are still quite easy to read with a bot. Really? What if I a created a box surrounded by letters, like so: A B C D E F G H I However, where E is located I have a gif (animated or not) pointing to a letter, which would be the key. How would a bot read that? Cheers, tedd Assuming you're using the same arrow the whole time, you could use md5 check for example. Save MD5 for all directions of the arrow and compare :) Tijnema -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Submitting as POST. Why?
My Peeps, I only know of one reason to submit a form as POST and that is because you can submit more data in one shot. What other reasons are there? Chris. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Need a working SOAP example using PHP SOAP
I've been searching all day (read wasting) trying to get a working SOAP
example that uses the new PHP SOAP functions.
http://us2.php.net/manual/en/ref.soap.php
I've tried this one from nearly THREE years ago (03/16/2004):
http://devzone.zend.com/node/view/id/689
And this one, which is apparently written in the future (05/01/2007):
http://www.netmag.co.uk/zine/develop/make-your-own-soap
Nothing works. Mostly I get these very unhelpful errors:
Fatal error: Uncaught SoapFault exception: [HTTP] Could not connect to host
in /home/machine/StockQuote/client3.php:6
Stack trace:
#0 [internal function]: SoapClient-__doRequest('?xml version=...',
'http://machine', 'urn:xmethods-de...', 1, 0)
#1 [internal function]: SoapClient-__call('getQuote', Array)
#2 /home/machine/StockQuote/client3.php(6): SoapClient-getQuote('ibm')
#3 {main}
thrown in /home/machine/StockQuote/client3.php on line 6
Now you might think, Can you actually get to the host?. And why YES, if I
try to hit the server1.php page that is defined in the WDSL file, I get
this error:
SOAP-ENV:ServerBad Request. Can't find HTTP_RAW_POST_DATA
Also, I have soap.wsdl_cache_enabled = 0, yet how come I still see
wsdl-47087234058273450982734508 files in /tmp ?! (yes I've restarted apache)
Does anyone know of a current, WORKING, example, ideally in a .tar file or
something so I don't have to waste a lot more time copy/paste/format/remove
whitespace/etc.?
It's also frustrating that the PHP SOAP function section doesn't have an
example, nor even links to an example. :-\
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Re: [PHP] Submitting as POST. Why?
barophobia wrote: My Peeps, I only know of one reason to submit a form as POST and that is because you can submit more data in one shot. What other reasons are there? upload a file? not have bag of cruft in the url/addressbar? because POST and GET are semantically different ... POST assumes that the submission may have side effects (e.g. registration, send a email, update a page) GET assumes no such thing, you merely 'get' a page from the server. Chris. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Submitting as POST. Why?
Chris, When you submit via GET, all the info shows up in the URL, so people can tamper with it however they like. Also, people can bookmark it as well. With POST, everything stays hidden, mostly untamperable, and unbookmarkable. POST might sound clearly better, but unless it's important that people don't change anything, then go with GET. barophobia wrote: My Peeps, I only know of one reason to submit a form as POST and that is because you can submit more data in one shot. What other reasons are there? Chris. -- Mike Shanley ~you are almost there~ A new eye opens on March 5. -Omniversalism.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Need a working SOAP example using PHP SOAP
not very helpful, but an apt quote from 'the man':
http://fplanque.net/Blog/devblog/2005/12/21/rasmus_i_don_t_like_soap
Daevid Vincent wrote:
I've been searching all day (read wasting) trying to get a working SOAP
example that uses the new PHP SOAP functions.
http://us2.php.net/manual/en/ref.soap.php
I've tried this one from nearly THREE years ago (03/16/2004):
http://devzone.zend.com/node/view/id/689
And this one, which is apparently written in the future (05/01/2007):
http://www.netmag.co.uk/zine/develop/make-your-own-soap
Nothing works. Mostly I get these very unhelpful errors:
a, they are helpful
b, you should catch exceptions
c, could you be having a problem related to the allow_url_fopen ini setting?
Fatal error: Uncaught SoapFault exception: [HTTP] Could not connect to host
in /home/machine/StockQuote/client3.php:6
Stack trace:
#0 [internal function]: SoapClient-__doRequest('?xml version=...',
'http://machine', 'urn:xmethods-de...', 1, 0)
#1 [internal function]: SoapClient-__call('getQuote', Array)
#2 /home/machine/StockQuote/client3.php(6): SoapClient-getQuote('ibm')
#3 {main}
thrown in /home/machine/StockQuote/client3.php on line 6
Now you might think, Can you actually get to the host?. And why YES, if I
try to hit the server1.php page that is defined in the WDSL file, I get
this error:
SOAP-ENV:ServerBad Request. Can't find HTTP_RAW_POST_DATA
Also, I have soap.wsdl_cache_enabled = 0, yet how come I still see
wsdl-47087234058273450982734508 files in /tmp ?! (yes I've restarted apache)
probably soap uses these tmp files but because soap.wsdl_cache_enabled is Off
the files are being regenerated on each request (check the file mtimes).
alternatively you may think soap.wsdl_cache_enabled is Off but actually its
being
turned On somewhere?
Does anyone know of a current, WORKING, example, ideally in a .tar file or
something so I don't have to waste a lot more time copy/paste/format/remove
whitespace/etc.?
It's also frustrating that the PHP SOAP function section doesn't have an
example, nor even links to an example. :-\
there is quite a bit of example code in the SOAP section if you ask me:
http://php.net/manual/en/function.soap-soapclient-construct.php
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Re: [PHP] Submitting as POST. Why?
On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 20:44 -0400, Mike Shanley wrote: Chris, When you submit via GET, all the info shows up in the URL, so people can tamper with it however they like. Also, people can bookmark it as well. Quite true. With POST, everything stays hidden, mostly untamperable, and Bullshit. It is VERY easy to tamper with post data. unbookmarkable. POST might sound clearly better, but unless it's important that people don't change anything, then go with GET. I go with POST almost exclusively when doing forms. I do so because my form engine embeds various information (non-security sensitive information) for the form. It works using get also, but it's ugly having stuff like that in the URL. Additionally, for longer forms, there's a limit to which browsers must adhere to acknowledge. I believe browsers are only required to process 1024 bytes from a URL. Obviously some browsers will process more, but now you're counting on a non-standard feature. For the most part, if there's stuff in the URL parameters, then they came from a link or a redirect. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Need a working SOAP example using PHP SOAP
not very helpful, but an apt quote from 'the man': http://fplanque.net/Blog/devblog/2005/12/21/rasmus_i_don_t_like_soap Yeah, unfortunately, I *must* use SOAP. Not my choice, but politics and company decree, blah blah... b, you should catch exceptions These were the examples from the page. I didn't want to add extra complexity. c, could you be having a problem related to the allow_url_fopen ini setting? Now we're talkin! Okay, I made sure that allow_url_fopen and allow_url_include are both on. Verified via phpinfo(); Still no luck. :-\ However, this sparked an idea... I have been using my WinXP and IE to hit my Gentoo notebook running apache2/php/etc. (samba mounting the /home/machine/... to edit the files) When I fired up KDE and hit the EXACT same pages (which are now local), they magically worked! So now the question is, what setting do I have to change in my php.ini file to get remote requests to work? alternatively you may think soap.wsdl_cache_enabled is Off but actually its being turned On somewhere? It's off in the php.ini file, also specifically turned off in each server.php file. Verified off via phpinfo(); It's also frustrating that the PHP SOAP function section doesn't have an example, nor even links to an example. :-\ there is quite a bit of example code in the SOAP section if you ask me: http://php.net/manual/en/function.soap-soapclient-construct.php No. those are fragments of ways to call the methods. NOT full working examples of client/server/wsdl -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Submitting as POST. Why?
barophobia wrote: I only know of one reason to submit a form as POST and that is because you can submit more data in one shot. At 4/6/2007 05:44 PM, Mike Shanley wrote: When you submit via GET, all the info shows up in the URL, so people can tamper with it however they like. Also, people can bookmark it as well. In fact that very tamperability is one of the advantages of GET. For certain types of service it can be a boon to the user to be able to tweak the querystring. It enables even mildly technically-oriented people to roll their own queries for search engines, map engines, online resource guides, catalogs, etc. When I deliberately expose the communication channel between a form and a lookup engine like that, I try to choose querystring parameter names that are simple and easy to remember such as isbn, author, and title. Obviously you have to make sure someone can't hack your system through the querystring, but you should already be doing this anyway whether you're using POST or GET. Regards, Paul __ Paul Novitski Juniper Webcraft Ltd. http://juniperwebcraft.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP has encountered an Access Violation at 01F13157?!?!?!?
hi, I just installed php 5.2.1-win32-installer on win box (XP). use IIS. created index.html file and localhost/index.html is ok. created phpinfo.php (with only phpinfo()) and was ok. then installed Zend 5.5.0 (try) and suddenly, IE is giving me blank screen. installed firefox 2 and got the error message from subject line. according google and php.net, it's bug?!? any idea? thanks for any help. -afan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
