php-general Digest 19 Nov 2011 08:14:54 -0000 Issue 7575
php-general Digest 19 Nov 2011 08:14:54 - Issue 7575 Topics (messages 315749 through 315752): Re: Sniping on the List 315749 by: Fredric L. Rice 315751 by: Robert Cummings 315752 by: Lester Caine Re: problem with sending AT command in php 315750 by: a dehqan Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: php-general-digest-subscr...@lists.php.net To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: php-general-digest-unsubscr...@lists.php.net To post to the list, e-mail: php-gene...@lists.php.net -- ---BeginMessage--- rc Thus before the big bang is perfectly rc valid whether we could perceive it or not. ts Not really. It's as meaningless as asking ts what's north of the North Pole. That's an interesting point. If you stand at the North Pole where all lines of reference converge, there is still Galactic North and True North if one's reference frame is Magnetic North. There are no privelaged frames of references UNLESS there is only ONE singular frame of reference. The Big Bang is a singularity event, there were no reference points in existance until the Big Bang, ergo you're so right, even saying before the Big Bang isn't even wrong. :) ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- On 11-11-18 10:03 AM, Curtis Maurand wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: Given the discussion, I think the following is in order: BAZINGA * 2 And what does any of this have to do with PHP? It's time to end this thread. It's Friday... traditionally content anal-ness has been somewhat disregarded on this day. Need one go through the archives to see if you're being a tad hypocritical? Cheese, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Robert Cummings wrote: It's Friday... traditionally content anal-ness has been somewhat disregarded on this day. Need one go through the archives to see if you're being a tad hypocritical? Although it only seems to be this latest thread that seems to have got totally OTT even for a Friday. And I think 'Friday Distraction' is a fairly recent development that was never every Friday ... I have the archive since 2004 on-line here and it sort of started on 09, but there were only a few each year - usually over the summer? And most of them were realistic tangential discussions rather than totally anal. Personally, this last one has become irritating and obviously others find the same thing? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- In The Name Of Allah Thank you all for attentions ; Weird but solved with using another symbolink of Device Weird because other App in linux in the same time were using for example /dev/ttyusb1 but php code works with /dev/ttyusb3 .. Regards dehqan On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Richard Quadling rquadl...@gmail.comwrote: On 15 November 2011 15:12, Mike Mackintosh mike.mackint...@angrystatic.com wrote: On Nov 15, 2011, at 8:25, Richard Quadling rquadl...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 November 2011 11:50, a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: \n is for Linux \r is for Windows On 11/14/11, Richard Quadling rquadl...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 November 2011 20:02, a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: dio_write($handle, 'AT') dio_write($handle, AT) make firefox times out on Waiting for localhost ... . But dio_write($handle, AT\n) makes it prints AT exactly the same command or A A , .. On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Negin Nickparsa nickpa...@gmail.comwrote: are you sure about ATD03518726535\n? can you try if ( dio_write($handle, 'AT') )? Don't use \n, use \r. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT_commands#Example_session -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend : PHPDoc : Fantasy Shopper @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY : bit.ly/lFnVea : fan.sh/6/370 No, \r is the requirement of the modem. Nothing to do with the OS. Windows uses \r\n as its line terminators, but when you talk to a modem, you use \r. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend : PHPDoc : Fantasy Shopper @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY : bit.ly/lFnVea : fan.sh/6/370 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php I've had better luck with PHP_EOL instead of \r or \n. I think I've not explained myself
Re: [PHP] Sniping on the List
Robert Cummings wrote: It's Friday... traditionally content anal-ness has been somewhat disregarded on this day. Need one go through the archives to see if you're being a tad hypocritical? Although it only seems to be this latest thread that seems to have got totally OTT even for a Friday. And I think 'Friday Distraction' is a fairly recent development that was never every Friday ... I have the archive since 2004 on-line here and it sort of started on 09, but there were only a few each year - usually over the summer? And most of them were realistic tangential discussions rather than totally anal. Personally, this last one has become irritating and obviously others find the same thing? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP script won't run in the background
$ stty -tostop thanks On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 10:33 PM, richard gray r...@richgray.com wrote: Hi all Hope someone can help me with a weird issue I have... I am trying to run a php CLI script in the background and it just won't run - it has a status of Stopped SIGTOU (Trying to write output) - Here are the details OS Mac OS X Lion 10.7.2 PHP PHP 5.3.6 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Sep 8 2011 19:34:00) Copyright (c) 1997-2011 The PHP Group Zend Engine v2.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2011 Zend Technologies I created a basic script test.php ?php echo 'Hello world'.PHP_EOL; ? Here are the results of various tests:- Test 1) php -f test.php (Hello world gets displayed) Test 2) php -f test.php test.log 21 (Hello world gets put into test.log) Test 3) php -f test.php test.log 21 --- I get [1]+ Stopped(SIGTTOU) php -f test.php test.log 21 -- and the job just sits there doing nothing nothing gets logged however lsof shows the log file is open It is something to do with php because a similar shell script gets executed no problems in the background... This has me stumped ... any ideas? TIA Rich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Laruence Xinchen Hui http://www.laruence.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP script won't run in the background
Hi all Hope someone can help me with a weird issue I have... I am trying to run a php CLI script in the background and it just won't run - it has a status of Stopped SIGTOU (Trying to write output) - Here are the details OS Mac OS X Lion 10.7.2 PHP PHP 5.3.6 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Sep 8 2011 19:34:00) Copyright (c) 1997-2011 The PHP Group Zend Engine v2.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2011 Zend Technologies I created a basic script test.php ?php echo 'Hello world'.PHP_EOL; ? Here are the results of various tests:- Test 1) php -f test.php (Hello world gets displayed) Test 2) php -f test.php test.log 21 (Hello world gets put into test.log) Test 3) php -f test.php test.log 21 --- I get [1]+ Stopped(SIGTTOU)php -f test.php test.log 21 -- and the job just sits there doing nothing nothing gets logged however lsof shows the log file is open It is something to do with php because a similar shell script gets executed no problems in the background... This has me stumped ... any ideas? TIA Rich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP script won't run in the background
On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 23:09 +0800, Laruence wrote: $ stty -tostop thanks On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 10:33 PM, richard gray r...@richgray.com wrote: Hi all Hope someone can help me with a weird issue I have... I am trying to run a php CLI script in the background and it just won't run - it has a status of Stopped SIGTOU (Trying to write output) - Here are the details OS Mac OS X Lion 10.7.2 PHP PHP 5.3.6 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Sep 8 2011 19:34:00) Copyright (c) 1997-2011 The PHP Group Zend Engine v2.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2011 Zend Technologies I created a basic script test.php ?php echo 'Hello world'.PHP_EOL; ? Here are the results of various tests:- Test 1) php -f test.php (Hello world gets displayed) Test 2) php -f test.php test.log 21 (Hello world gets put into test.log) Test 3) php -f test.php test.log 21 --- I get [1]+ Stopped(SIGTTOU) php -f test.php test.log 21 -- and the job just sits there doing nothing nothing gets logged however lsof shows the log file is open It is something to do with php because a similar shell script gets executed no problems in the background... This has me stumped ... any ideas? TIA Rich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Laruence Xinchen Hui http://www.laruence.com/ Laruence, while that may be a helpful answer to a few people in the know, just replying back with a single line like that isn't really going to help the people who are having this problem. At least explain why you suggested that, or what it does for those on the list that don't know, especially as it's not a PHP thing, it's a Unix command thing. Richard, some more info on the command Laruence mentioned can be found at http://docstore.mik.ua/orelly/unix/upt/ch12_07.htm which explains it in more detail. -- Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
Re: [PHP] PHP script won't run in the background
On 19/11/2011 16:09, Laruence wrote: $ stty -tostop makes no difference # stty -tostop # php -f test.php test.log 21 # jobs # [1]+ Stopped(SIGTTOU)php -f test.php test.log 21 Any other ideas? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP script won't run in the background
Laruence, while that may be a helpful answer to a few people in the know, just replying back with a single line like that isn't really going to help the people who are having this problem. At least explain why you suggested that, or what it does for those on the list that don't know, especially as it's not a PHP thing, it's a Unix command thing. Richard, some more info on the command Laruence mentioned can be found at http://docstore.mik.ua/orelly/unix/upt/ch12_07.htm which explains it in more detail. not sure this is relevant as my script is not trying to write to the terminal the test.log 21 is sending stdout and stderr to the log file not the tty... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Parsing the From field
I am unsure of how to parse first name, last name and e-mail address from the 'From:' field of an e-mail. What I am struggling with is if the name has more than two words - Such as the last name being multiple words - A name a business or department is given instead of a personal name - If the person has included their middle name, middle initial or degrees (“Dr.”) - If last name has multiple words Also the formatting of the from field changes in various e-mail programs: From: Ron Piggott ron.pigg...@actsministries.org From: Ron Piggott ron.pigg...@actsministries.org From: ron.pigg...@actsministries.org From: ron.pigg...@actsministries.org If there is more than 2 words for the name I would like them to be assigned to the last name. Ron Ron Piggott www.TheVerseOfTheDay.info
Re: [PHP] Parsing the From field
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:23:59AM -0500, Ron Piggott wrote: I am unsure of how to parse first name, last name and e-mail address from the 'From:' field of an e-mail. What I am struggling with is if the name has more than two words - Such as the last name being multiple words - A name a business or department is given instead of a personal name - If the person has included their middle name, middle initial or degrees (“Dr.”) - If last name has multiple words Also the formatting of the from field changes in various e-mail programs: From: Ron Piggott ron.pigg...@actsministries.org From: Ron Piggott ron.pigg...@actsministries.org From: ron.pigg...@actsministries.org From: ron.pigg...@actsministries.org If there is more than 2 words for the name I would like them to be assigned to the last name. You can make no such assumption, different people/companies/... do it in different ways. If you really want to have fun look at the different 'norms' from different countries. -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 http://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers Ltd. Registration Information: http://www.phcomp.co.uk/contact.php #include std_disclaimer.h -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Sniping on the List
On 11-11-19 03:14 AM, Lester Caine wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: It's Friday... traditionally content anal-ness has been somewhat disregarded on this day. Need one go through the archives to see if you're being a tad hypocritical? Although it only seems to be this latest thread that seems to have got totally OTT even for a Friday. And I think 'Friday Distraction' is a fairly recent development that was never every Friday ... I have the archive since 2004 on-line here and it sort of started on 09, but there were only a few each year - usually over the summer? And most of them were realistic tangential discussions rather than totally anal. Personally, this last one has become irritating and obviously others find the same thing? I don't know... I haven't heard from many on the list and there seems to be as many responding as wishing it would stop. That said, why re-hash it on a Saturday (or as the case may be... so close to Saturday). Were you hoping to continue it over the weekend? Also, you say it seems to have started around 2009... that's almost 3 years. I consider that a fairly long standing trend and not quite as recent as you make it sound. I've been on this list in one form or another since 2000... I'd say for the most part these kinds of conversations crop up with fair regularity. I'm not saying every day, but often enough that I don't understand the sudden whining-- and as I've also pointed out, there's likely a degree of hypocrisy afoot. Either way, I'm done with the thread, enjoy your weekend. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Parsing the From field
My web site is used by people from approximately of 90 countries. - I will use just name instead of first name / last name. - e-mail address Ron Piggott www.TheVerseOfTheDay.info -Original Message- From: Alain Williams Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 11:29 AM To: Ron Piggott Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Parsing the From field On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:23:59AM -0500, Ron Piggott wrote: I am unsure of how to parse first name, last name and e-mail address from the 'From:' field of an e-mail. What I am struggling with is if the name has more than two words - Such as the last name being multiple words - A name a business or department is given instead of a personal name - If the person has included their middle name, middle initial or degrees (“Dr.”) - If last name has multiple words Also the formatting of the from field changes in various e-mail programs: From: Ron Piggott ron.pigg...@actsministries.org From: Ron Piggott ron.pigg...@actsministries.org From: ron.pigg...@actsministries.org From: ron.pigg...@actsministries.org If there is more than 2 words for the name I would like them to be assigned to the last name. You can make no such assumption, different people/companies/... do it in different ways. If you really want to have fun look at the different 'norms' from different countries. -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 http://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers Ltd. Registration Information: http://www.phcomp.co.uk/contact.php #include std_disclaimer.h -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Sniping on the List
On Nov 17, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Stuart Dallas wrote: On 17 Nov 2011, at 20:17, Tedd Sperling wrote: On Nov 17, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Stuart Dallas wrote: defined as the number of seconds elapsed since midnight Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) of Thursday, January 1, 1970 (Unix times are defined, but negative, before that date) [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time] Good reference to support your point, but strtotime() doesn't qork that way. In addition, the statement does not address where the fractions of a second were that occurred before the completion of the first second, clearly those fractions occurred in 1970. It certainly does address that. The definition the number of seconds elapsed says nothing about whole seconds, so I'd venture that fractions of a second are still covered. Good -- I'm glad we agree. For example, if you push '-1' though strtotime(-1), you'll get Wednesday only one day a week -- whereas 'null' works every time. Technically I see that as a bug. I believe strtotime(null) should return null, but due to the way type inference works, null is interpreted as 0. The point here being that you're not getting the time at null, you're getting the time at 0. Nope, zero time is absolutely January 1, 1970 00:00:00 -- which was a Thursday. If you pass zero through strtotime(), it reports December 1969 and I claim that to be a bug. Realize that seconds, minutes, and hours go from 0-59, not 1 to 60. Any fractions of a second before zero was 59.999... and such was indeed part of the day/month/year before. That has nothing to do with seconds running from 0 to 59 rather than 1 to 60, it has to do with your timezone. When you ask PHP to display a formatted date with a timestamp of 0 you're actually getting the time at (unix timestamp 0 + (3600 * your timezone offset in hours)). Since you're in a timezone that's behind UTC you get the previous day. -snip- with other time zone discussion that have nothing to do with what I observed nor addressed in my post. My observations are demonstrated here: http://www.webbytedd.com//strtotime/index.php Please note that regardless of time zone, the strtotime() function works (or at least it does for me) such that: If you enter '-1', the function will report back Todays Date with current seconds. Note there is no difference between entering 'Today' or '-1'. If you enter '0', the function will report back December, 31, 1969. If you enter nothing (i.e., null), then it reports back December, 31, 1969. It's clear (and by definition) that unix zero time (i.e., 00:00:00) happened in 1970. It's also clear that time before unix zero happened before 1970 (i.e., 'December 31, 1969'). As such, null (and not the string 'null' as stated my someone else, duh) should come back as undefined OR December, 31, 1969. Furthermore, the string '-1' should default to '-1 second' instead of being the same as if I entered 'Today'. Now, where are my observations wrong? The code is shown in the demo. Cheers, tedd _ t...@sperling.com http://sperling.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Sniping on the List
On Nov 18, 2011, at 12:40 AM, Robert Cummings wrote: By you're reasoning since I did not exist before 1974 then time itself could not possibly have existed before then either since I was not in existence to perceive it. That's as ludicrous as suggesting time did not exist before the big bang (presuming this model is correct). Also, them's some fancy shmancy words you're slinging about up there, but without a proof it's just farts in the wind :) No more valid than a theory of creation or the big ass spaghetti thingy majingy dude. Folded shmeality and phases of whatsyamacallit may well be true, but provability of the non-existence of time before the big bang theory is not provable by this model. However, what is valid is to take a point of reference in time and infer a period before it. Thus before the big bang is perfectly valid whether we could perceive it or not. Cheers, Rob. Again, you have shown an uncanny insight into the way things are. :-) Cheers, tedd _ t...@sperling.com http://sperling.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Parsing the From field
On 11/19/2011 11:29 AM, Alain Williams wrote: On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:23:59AM -0500, Ron Piggott wrote: I am unsure of how to parse first name, last name and e-mail address from the 'From:' field of an e-mail. What I am struggling with is if the name has more than two words - Such as the last name being multiple words - A name a business or department is given instead of a personal name - If the person has included their middle name, middle initial or degrees (“Dr.�) - If last name has multiple words Also the formatting of the from field changes in various e-mail programs: From: Ron Piggottron.pigg...@actsministries.org From: Ron Piggottron.pigg...@actsministries.org From: ron.pigg...@actsministries.org From:ron.pigg...@actsministries.org If there is more than 2 words for the name I would like them to be assigned to the last name. You can make no such assumption, different people/companies/... do it in different ways. If you really want to have fun look at the different 'norms' from different countries. Perhaps, Ron's email are constrained so there is a finite syntax. e.g., only to actsministries.org Ron: I'd suggest your best approach is to use preg_match() There are several examples on the net, try Google php preg_match email address -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Sniping on the List
On Nov 19, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Stuart Dallas wrote: On 19 Nov 2011, at 16:48, Tedd Sperling wrote: For example, if you push '-1' though strtotime(-1), you'll get Wednesday only one day a week -- whereas 'null' works every time. Technically I see that as a bug. I believe strtotime(null) should return null, but due to the way type inference works, null is interpreted as 0. The point here being that you're not getting the time at null, you're getting the time at 0. Nope, zero time is absolutely January 1, 1970 00:00:00 -- which was a Thursday. If you pass zero through strtotime(), it reports December 1969 and I claim that to be a bug. Realize that seconds, minutes, and hours go from 0-59, not 1 to 60. Any fractions of a second before zero was 59.999... and such was indeed part of the day/month/year before. That has nothing to do with seconds running from 0 to 59 rather than 1 to 60, it has to do with your timezone. When you ask PHP to display a formatted date with a timestamp of 0 you're actually getting the time at (unix timestamp 0 + (3600 * your timezone offset in hours)). Since you're in a timezone that's behind UTC you get the previous day. -snip- with other time zone discussion that have nothing to do with what I observed nor addressed in my post. My observations are demonstrated here: http://www.webbytedd.com//strtotime/index.php Your test code is flawed because strtotime returns an error when you pass it null. Your code is passing that false to getdate, which is interpreting it as an integer, which would be 0. -Stuart Interesting -- I shall look into it. Thanks, tedd _ t...@sperling.com http://sperling.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Impossibility of reading php.ini
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Alain Chautar achau...@nerim.net wrote: Hello I am a newbie of this list. So if this topic as a known answer, I apologize. I use a brand new Debian Squeeze with PHP5.3.3-7+Squeeze3 as a web server. All my web sites are OK. For my needs I have to change values in the php.ini . The way I proceed : I change values - I save php.ini - I restart Apache2 - I verify with phpinfo() or ini_get ... My phpinfo() can be read at 213.41.212.98/test.php and my php.ini is join to this mail. If somebody have an idea ??? Thanks. Are you sure you changed the correct php.ini file? In my debian there is one for the CLI and one for Apache, eg: cd /etc find -iname php.ini ./php5/cli/php.ini ./php5/apache2/php.ini where ofcourse only the last one affects your website. Matijn -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Impossibility of reading php.ini
Yes I change the right one : /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini .It fit with Loaded Configuration File in phpinfo(). This the reason I get confused. Le 19/11/2011 20:26, Matijn Woudt a écrit : On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Alain Chautarachau...@nerim.net wrote: Hello I am a newbie of this list. So if this topic as a known answer, I apologize. I use a brand new Debian Squeeze with PHP5.3.3-7+Squeeze3 as a web server. All my web sites are OK. For my needs I have to change values in the php.ini . The way I proceed : I change values - I save php.ini - I restart Apache2 - I verify with phpinfo() or ini_get ... My phpinfo() can be read at 213.41.212.98/test.php and my php.ini is join to this mail. If somebody have an idea ??? Thanks. Are you sure you changed the correct php.ini file? In my debian there is one for the CLI and one for Apache, eg: cd /etc find -iname php.ini ./php5/cli/php.ini ./php5/apache2/php.ini where ofcourse only the last one affects your website. Matijn -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] include
At the moment I'm using an instance of apache to run PHP scripts, as and when required via AJAX. Having got some understanding of web sockets, I'm minded to look at having a small server to execute these functions as required. The scripts, some 50 or so, are only about 300kbytes of source code, which seems small enough that it could all be loaded with include, as in: ?php $fn = 'wiggy.php'; include $fn; ? This appears to work although I couldn't see it documented. I'd also like to be able to replace a module without restarting the server. I couldn't see a way to drop an included file, do I therefore take it that there is none? Failing that, is there a good way to dynamically replace parts of a PHP program, possibly using runkit? -- Cheers -- Tim -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php