Re: [PHP] Pear Page2
On Jan 5, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Silvio Siefke siefke_lis...@web.de wrote: What should me say this two words? You not use nano, ok. Editors enough on earth. Or you not write manually? Then share the way! Or use a CMS? Silvio: You said -- 1.) All websites are created manually. (nano + html/css Tags) -- and I replied Not mine. In other words, some of my web-sites are NOT created manually. They are dynamically generated from user input. For example: http://ancientstones.com For the exception of the static First page, FAQ page, and Contact page, all other pages are generated from user input/direction. I don't use nano (I don't even know what that is), but what I do is to create pages that pass W3C compliance and follow best practices. From what I've gathered from most frameworks I've reviewed, they have problems (similar to ASP) in mixing different languages in ways such that compliance with W3C and accessibility issues are difficult, if not impossible, to achieve. Even CMS's have difficulty with compliance and accessibility issues because of the lack of knowledge of the user/client. I have clients who insist on CMS's, but then are clueless as to user issues and difficulties.. So, where does that leave a Web Developer? It leaves them with the responsibility to learn and apply what they learned to their craft. Is there an easy way out, such as to use a certain framework, or CMS, or other such attempts at minimizing the work involved? The answer is a simple No. Instead, you have to spend every waking hour learning and applying that knowledge with openness to the possibility that you still don't understand the problems involved -- it's a never ending battle to educate yourself. Cheers, tedd _ t...@sperling.com http://sperling.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Pear Page2
Hello, On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 11:36:39 -0500 Tedd Sperling t...@sperling.com wrote: You said -- 1.) All websites are created manually. (nano + html/css Tags) -- and I replied Not mine. In other words, some of my web-sites are NOT created manually. What do you mean I do realize. I'm just wondering, why write an email to the matter is insignificant. They are dynamically generated from user input. When you have this situation be happy. Other site, other content, and other target groups. I don't use nano (I don't even know what that is), but what I do is to create pages that pass W3C compliance and follow best practices. From what I've gathered from most frameworks I've reviewed, they have problems (similar to ASP) in mixing different languages in ways such that compliance with W3C and accessibility issues are difficult, if not impossible, to achieve. Nano is a editor, very simple editor for Linux. http://www.nano-editor.org Which website is the w3c compliant? No website that has many users and has a lot of interaction. Even CMS's have difficulty with compliance and accessibility issues because of the lack of knowledge of the user/client. I have clients who insist on CMS's, but then are clueless as to user issues and difficulties.. Correct. So, where does that leave a Web Developer? It leaves them with the responsibility to learn and apply what they learned to their craft. Is there an easy way out, such as to use a certain framework, or CMS, or other such attempts at minimizing the work involved? The answer is a simple No. I simply asked a question, nothing more, nothing less. I looked for an alternative. I do not need a web developer. I'm not a web developer. I manage a few sites, most of my Customers are hosting customers. Instead, you have to spend every waking hour learning and applying that knowledge with openness to the possibility that you still don't understand the problems involved it's a never ending battle to educate yourself. I have not asked about the internationalization of web pages, I ask for an alternative a Pear package. As I have also written the websites are manually created and activated for years.I want to try out just a little and learn if you do not understand that the problem is not with me. Internationalization between large and small sites is the difference. The websites that I manage only a different date. For this need not study. That goes with nano and a good Database Sheet. Learning will never stop. The only thing that changes is the speed. As a child we hjaben knowledge absorbed, today I sweep only. Thank you for help, Kind Regards Silvio -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Pear Page2
On Jan 6, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Silvio Siefke siefke_lis...@web.de wrote: On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 11:36:39 -0500 Tedd Sperling t...@sperling.com wrote: So, where does that leave a Web Developer? It leaves them with the responsibility to learn and apply what they learned to their craft. Is there an easy way out, such as to use a certain framework, or CMS, or other such attempts at minimizing the work involved? The answer is a simple No. I simply asked a question, nothing more, nothing less. I looked for an alternative. I do not need a web developer. I'm not a web developer. I manage a few sites, most of my Customers are hosting customers. No offense meant, but therein lies the problem. Two fold: 1. You asked a question without the intent to learn and practice. 2. By your own admission, you are not a web developer and as such you cannot use our advice. This is similar to me asking about brain-surgery -- I don't know much about it, but I would be very reluctant to operate. You also said: I'm just wondering, why write an email to the matter is insignificant. On that point, I must agree -- I probably should not have answered. I should have seen you were having difficulties understanding what was being offered and passed on my contribution -- my apologies. I also realize there is a language problem here -- while I cannot speak your language, what you say in mine and my replies, may be misinterpreted -- but in any case, no offense was meant. I wish you well. Cheers, tedd _ t...@sperling.com http://sperling.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Pear Page2
On 6 Jan 2013, at 18:42, Tedd Sperling t...@sperling.com wrote: I also realize there is a language problem here -- while I cannot speak your language, what you say in mine and my replies, may be misinterpreted -- but in any case, no offense was meant. Indeed. I'm guessing that when Silvio said All websites are created manually. (nano + html/css Tags) he meant All of the websites are created manually. (nano + html/css Tags) meaning the sites he's working on rather than every site in existence. -Stuart -- Stuart Dallas 3ft9 Ltd http://3ft9.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
