[PHP] Help. Floats turning into really small numbers? x.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxE-xx

2005-04-04 Thread Anthony Tippett
I'm having trouble figuring out why subtraction of two floats are giving
me a very small number.  I'm thinking it has something to do with the
internals of type casting, but i'm not sure.  If anyone has seen this or
can give me some suggestions, please.

I have 2 variables that go through a while loop and are
added/subtracted/ multipled. InvAmt and InvPay are shown as
floats but when they are subtracted, they give me a really small
number

// code
var_dump($InvAmt);
var_dump($InvPay);
var_dump($InvAmt-$InvPay);

// output
float(18.49)
float(18.49)
float(2.1316282072803E-14)

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Re: [PHP] [Q] mail() security

2005-04-04 Thread Anthony Tippett
Eric,

It sounds like you just need to do some reading on best practices of
security when writing php code.  It's pretty vast what one can do when
trying to hack a php application and depending on what php server
settings are set, you may need to do certain things.  I'd suggesting
reading / google php security and viewing pages like the following to
answer your question.  It may only answer your question in the long run,
but there are many more things to know about besides htmlentities to
make sure your application is secure.  I actually need to do some
reading about them.  Once in a while

http://www.devshed.com/c/a/PHP/PHP-Security-Mistakes/


Also events like the following are good to go to expecially if you can
get your company to pay for them.
http://www.osevents.com/page5.html?

Eric Gorr wrote:
 Chris W. Parker wrote:
 Or in a less extreme case, your
 
 computer get hijacked and used to send spam because you used
 htmlentities() instead of strip_tags().
 
 
 Well, this is why I asked the question to begin with. I am concerned (as
 everyone _should_ be) about such things and desire to do my best to
 prevent them.
 
 Now, as near as I can tell, strip_tags is the only thing one really
 needs to do to be safe.
 
 But, one can use htmlentities to potentially preserve useful text, if it
 is important to do so and still remain safe - with the downside being
 having a messier body then may be necessary.
 

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Re: [PHP] Help. Floats turning into really small numbers? x.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxE-xx - Narrowed it down!

2005-04-04 Thread Anthony Tippett
Ok i've narrowed it down a little bit but still can't figure it out..

Here's the code and what I get for the output.  Does anyone know what's
going on?  Can someone else run it on their computer and see if they get
the same results?
?php

$a = 17.00 * 1;
$a+= 1.10 * 1;
$a+= 0.32 * 1;
$a+= 0.07 * 1;

print $a.br; // 18.49

var_dump($a);  // float(18.49)
var_dump($a-18.49); // float(3.5527136788005E-15)
?


Anthony Tippett wrote:
 I'm having trouble figuring out why subtraction of two floats are giving
 me a very small number.  I'm thinking it has something to do with the
 internals of type casting, but i'm not sure.  If anyone has seen this or
 can give me some suggestions, please.
 
 I have 2 variables that go through a while loop and are
 added/subtracted/ multipled. InvAmt and InvPay are shown as
 floats but when they are subtracted, they give me a really small
 number
 
 // code
 var_dump($InvAmt);
 var_dump($InvPay);
 var_dump($InvAmt-$InvPay);
 
 // output
 float(18.49)
 float(18.49)
 float(2.1316282072803E-14)
 

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Re: [PHP] PHP Tool to answer emails

2005-04-04 Thread Anthony Tippett
I think what you are looking for is a combination of programs.  A
mailing list that customers can view answers of emails try mailman or
smartlist.  Perhaps just a mailint list would give you want you want.

If you are looking for more of a trouble ticket program, or FAQ program
there are serveral at freshmeat.net but haven't used many of them.


Daniel Baughman wrote:
 Hi all,
 
  
 
 I am looking for a php tool that will provide email tracking and a web
 interface to an email box.  Pretty much, we get lots of emails directed to
 an administrative email account (most of the valid emails) that need
 response. To the point that one person is getting over whelmed.
 
  
 
 It would be nice if someone had a tool already made that would check the
 box, download the email, mark the receipt time, then present them to be
 answered on a web site for employees, document the answer, etc. etc.. 
 
  
 
 Anyone know of anything?
 
  
 
  
 
 Dan Baughman
 
 IT Technician
 
 Professional Bull Riders, Inc.
 
 719-471-3008 x 3161
 
  
 
 

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Re: [PHP] Help. Floats turning into really small numbers? x.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxE-xx - Narrowed it down!

2005-04-04 Thread Anthony Tippett
btw, thanks for your response.

I'm not sure as if I understand why.  It's not like I'm using a very
precise number when dealing with the hundreths place.

Even without the multiplication the number gets messed up.

eg.

$a = 17.00;
$a+= 1.10;
$a+= 0.32;
$a+= 0.07;


print $a.br; // 18.49

var_dump($a);  // float(18.49)
var_dump($a-18.49); // float(3.5527136788005E-15)

I'm just trying to add money amounts?  Can I not rely on floats to do this?



Richard Lynch wrote:
 Floats are NEVER going to be coming out even reliably.
 
 You'll have to check if the difference is less than X for whatever number
 X you like.
 
 Or you can look at something like BC_MATH where precision can be carried
 out as far as you like...
 
 But what you are seeing is to be expected.
 
 That's just the way computers work, basically.
 
 On Mon, April 4, 2005 5:07 pm, Anthony Tippett said:
 
Ok i've narrowed it down a little bit but still can't figure it out..

Here's the code and what I get for the output.  Does anyone know what's
going on?  Can someone else run it on their computer and see if they get
the same results?
?php

$a = 17.00 * 1;
$a+= 1.10 * 1;
$a+= 0.32 * 1;
$a+= 0.07 * 1;

print $a.br; // 18.49

var_dump($a);  // float(18.49)
var_dump($a-18.49); // float(3.5527136788005E-15)
?


Anthony Tippett wrote:

I'm having trouble figuring out why subtraction of two floats are giving
me a very small number.  I'm thinking it has something to do with the
internals of type casting, but i'm not sure.  If anyone has seen this or
can give me some suggestions, please.

I have 2 variables that go through a while loop and are
added/subtracted/ multipled. InvAmt and InvPay are shown as
floats but when they are subtracted, they give me a really small
number

// code
var_dump($InvAmt);
var_dump($InvPay);
var_dump($InvAmt-$InvPay);

// output
float(18.49)
float(18.49)
float(2.1316282072803E-14)


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Re: [PHP] Help. Floats turning into really small numbers? x.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxE-xx - Narrowed it down!

2005-04-04 Thread Anthony Tippett
Thanks to everyone that helped.  After further googling, bug 9288 had a
good explanation of what was going on ( which is not a bug)

http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=9288edit=3

I'll just include the answer for anyone that comes upon this tread on a
search engine.


[15 Feb 2001 2:55pm CET] hholzgra at php rot dot fot net

short answer:
never use floats or doubles for financial data!

longer answer:
the internal number format in modern computers
is binary (base 2) and not decimal (base 10) for performance
and complexity reasons
while it is possible to convert decimal numbers into binaries
and back this does not hold true for fractions
something like 0.3 (decimal) would be a periodic binary
fraction like 10/3 is 0....
in decimal
this leads to loss of precision when calculation with
decimal fractions as you have when storing currency values

solution:
if you just summ up values then you should store values in
the smalest unit your currency has (pennies?) instead of
what you are used to (Pounds?) to totally avoid fractions

if you cannot avoid fractions (like when dealing with
percentage calculations or currency conversions) you
should just be aware of the (usually very small) internal
conversion differences
(0.27755575615629 in your example)
or use the bcmath extension, although for monetary
values you should go perfectly fine with using round(...,2)
on your final results




Anthony Tippett wrote:
 btw, thanks for your response.
 
 I'm not sure as if I understand why.  It's not like I'm using a very
 precise number when dealing with the hundreths place.
 
 Even without the multiplication the number gets messed up.
 
 eg.
 
 $a = 17.00;
 $a+= 1.10;
 $a+= 0.32;
 $a+= 0.07;
 
 
 print $a.br; // 18.49
 
 var_dump($a);  // float(18.49)
 var_dump($a-18.49); // float(3.5527136788005E-15)
 
 I'm just trying to add money amounts?  Can I not rely on floats to do this?
 
 
 
 Richard Lynch wrote:
 
Floats are NEVER going to be coming out even reliably.

You'll have to check if the difference is less than X for whatever number
X you like.

Or you can look at something like BC_MATH where precision can be carried
out as far as you like...

But what you are seeing is to be expected.

That's just the way computers work, basically.

On Mon, April 4, 2005 5:07 pm, Anthony Tippett said:


Ok i've narrowed it down a little bit but still can't figure it out..

Here's the code and what I get for the output.  Does anyone know what's
going on?  Can someone else run it on their computer and see if they get
the same results?
?php

$a = 17.00 * 1;
$a+= 1.10 * 1;
$a+= 0.32 * 1;
$a+= 0.07 * 1;

print $a.br; // 18.49

var_dump($a);  // float(18.49)
var_dump($a-18.49); // float(3.5527136788005E-15)
?


Anthony Tippett wrote:


I'm having trouble figuring out why subtraction of two floats are giving
me a very small number.  I'm thinking it has something to do with the
internals of type casting, but i'm not sure.  If anyone has seen this or
can give me some suggestions, please.

I have 2 variables that go through a while loop and are
added/subtracted/ multipled. InvAmt and InvPay are shown as
floats but when they are subtracted, they give me a really small
number

// code
var_dump($InvAmt);
var_dump($InvPay);
var_dump($InvAmt-$InvPay);

// output
float(18.49)
float(18.49)
float(2.1316282072803E-14)


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