[PHP] Books on PHP guts
Hi folks. I'm not looking to write new PHP extensions per se, but am looking to better grok the guts of PHP itself. (That's a first step on the way to writing new extensions, though. Gateway drug!) I'm especially interested in the memory/performance implications of various techniques. Are there any good books on the subject that would be of help? I'm familiar with Sara Goleman's book[1], which has generally good reviews, but it's several years old now and I'm not sure if there's anything newer that covers PHP developments since the 5.0 days. Any suggestions? --Larry Garfield [1] http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/extending-and-embedding-php-sara-golemon/1006978211 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Books on PHP guts
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 13:19, Larry Garfield la...@garfieldtech.com wrote: Hi folks. I'm not looking to write new PHP extensions per se, but am looking to better grok the guts of PHP itself. (That's a first step on the way to writing new extensions, though. Gateway drug!) I'm especially interested in the memory/performance implications of various techniques. Are there any good books on the subject that would be of help? I'm familiar with Sara Goleman's book[1], which has generally good reviews, but it's several years old now and I'm not sure if there's anything newer that covers PHP developments since the 5.0 days. Any suggestions? Actually, Sara's book should still be the most relevant on the subject (at least of books in print). There's another by an author named Blake Schwendiman, named Building Custom PHP Extensions from 2003[1], which may be of some help, but that would be more PHP4-centric, or previewing PHP5 RC's at best --- which wouldn't be reliable in and of itself. That said, as an additional resource on the subject, it may be of some use. I haven't read it myself, and just found it searching on Amazon now. All of that aside, obviously your best bet, knowing you, would be trial-and-error. I've written a few dozen extensions myself over the years, and each and every time I've found out new and better ways of doing things. I'd start by writing extensions to optimize things you use on a regular basis for clients or internally (such as redundant database queries or encryption algorithms). As for getting started, Zend has a decent introduction[2] on the subject if you haven't yet seen it. It won't get as deep into the guts as you'd probably like, but I'm not certain that there is anything on ink and paper. For that, your best bet would likely be the Hacker's Guide on php.net[3]. ^1: http://www.amazon.com/Building-Custom-Extensions-Blake-Schwendiman/dp/1411601882/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1314725705sr=8-2 ^2: http://devzone.zend.com/article/1021 ^3: http://php.net/internals -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] books for php
Which are the good books for learning php? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] books for php
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 11:28 AM, news.php.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which are the good books for learning php? Try to choose one that has pages, some (if not all) of those should contain words forming sentences, and particularly those focused on the PHP programming language. http://marc.info/?w=2r=1s=php+booksq=t http://search.gmane.org/?query=php+booksgroup=gmane.comp.php.general http://www.google.com/search?q=php+books http://www.faqs.org/docs/jargon/S/STFW.html From http://php.net/mailinglists : Posting guidelines * * Check the archives before posting a question, chances are it has already been asked and answered a few times. -- /Daniel P. Brown Ask me about: Dedicated servers starting @ $59.99/mo., VPS starting @ $19.99/mo., and shared hosting starting @ $2.50/mo. Unmanaged, managed, and fully-managed! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] books for php
On Apr 8, 2008, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Brown wrote: On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 11:28 AM, news.php.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which are the good books for learning php? Try to choose one that has pages, some (if not all) of those should contain words forming sentences, and particularly those focused on the PHP programming language. You mean that books are supposed to have stuff other then pictures? Well hot damn Learn something new everyday! -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 3251 132nd ave Holland, MI, 49424-9337 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] books for php
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Jason Pruim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean that books are supposed to have stuff other then pictures? Well hot damn Learn something new everyday! Some programming books, such as guides to Windows source code, have pictures. http://www.pilotpig.net/images/winsource.jpg -- /Daniel P. Brown Ask me about: Dedicated servers starting @ $59.99/mo., VPS starting @ $19.99/mo., and shared hosting starting @ $2.50/mo. Unmanaged, managed, and fully-managed! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] books for php
Daniel Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Jason Pruim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean that books are supposed to have stuff other then pictures? Well hot damn Learn something new everyday! Some programming books, such as guides to Windows source code, have pictures. Wait, you mean windows has source code that has words? How are the script kiddies figuring out the exploits then? ;) And Jason, if you still have that copy of Forum with just pictures, can you scan it in for me and send it my way? :D Wolf -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] books for php
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Daniel Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Jason Pruim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean that books are supposed to have stuff other then pictures? Well hot damn Learn something new everyday! Some programming books, such as guides to Windows source code, have pictures. http://www.pilotpig.net/images/winsource.jpg ROFL. -- -Casey -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Books on PHP
I am new to PHP and was wondering if anyone can point me the right direction with PHP urls and books In the past few months I have received nearly all of the PHP books that have been written (I wanted to evaluate possible books for some classes) and I think all of the entry-level/beginner/learn the language kind of books. PHP and MySQL Web Development is a great book, and provides a good resource for both PHP and MySQL in one text. However, I think its sections on actually learning PHP are a bit on the short side, assuming more knowledge and self-motivation than a lot of people (ok, beginning students) might have. I highly recommend it, but I would add to it the PHP Bible (which you already have) and, if that isn't enough, the PHP books from Wrox. PHP4: A Beginner's Guide is actually pretty good and might have been (had I received it in time) the best choice for a class text, since it is structured and written that way. You really can't go wrong with any of those books, a good project to keep yourself interested, and a local copy of the documentation. c -- Chris Lott http://www.chrislott.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Books on PHP
For learning PHP, I liked PHP Essentials by Julie Meloni. -Mike -Original Message- From: Chris Lott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 12:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Books on PHP I am new to PHP and was wondering if anyone can point me the right direction with PHP urls and books In the past few months I have received nearly all of the PHP books that have been written (I wanted to evaluate possible books for some classes) and I think all of the entry-level/beginner/learn the language kind of books. PHP and MySQL Web Development is a great book, and provides a good resource for both PHP and MySQL in one text. However, I think its sections on actually learning PHP are a bit on the short side, assuming more knowledge and self-motivation than a lot of people (ok, beginning students) might have. I highly recommend it, but I would add to it the PHP Bible (which you already have) and, if that isn't enough, the PHP books from Wrox. PHP4: A Beginner's Guide is actually pretty good and might have been (had I received it in time) the best choice for a class text, since it is structured and written that way. You really can't go wrong with any of those books, a good project to keep yourself interested, and a local copy of the documentation. c -- Chris Lott http://www.chrislott.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Books on PHP
On Tuesday, February 5, 2002, at 04:07 PM, Ronald D Wahlen wrote: Hello, I am new to PHP and was wondering if anyone can point me the right direction with PHP urls and books to learn how to develop web sites using PHP. I read some of the information on www.php.net web site and have the PHP Bible. The Wrox Beginning PHP (by Choi, et al) got me started quite comfortably with the basic syntax and theory, and the www.php.net + this list helps me expand on that knowledge. Erik Erik Price Web Developer Temp Media Lab, H.H. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Books on PHP
Hello, I am new to PHP and was wondering if anyone can point me the right direction with PHP urls and books to learn how to develop web sites using PHP. I read some of the information on www.php.net web site and have the PHP Bible. Thanks, Ron -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Books on PHP
I got started with a book called, PHP and MySQL Web Development by Luke Welling and Laura Thomson, published by SAMS. This book is clearly written with the self-taught programmer in mind, tearing apart numerous real-world examples and explaining relevant concepts in depth. It does not go into theory or advanced topics making it a terrible book for the experienced programmer. It is also not a good function reference. But far as reference goes, I say forget the books. Nothing can beat the function search at www.php.net. -- Kevin Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.helpelf.com -Original Message- From: Ronald D Wahlen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 2:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Books on PHP Hello, I am new to PHP and was wondering if anyone can point me the right direction with PHP urls and books to learn how to develop web sites using PHP. I read some of the information on www.php.net web site and have the PHP Bible. Thanks, Ron -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Books for PHP and MySQL Class
I'll be teaching a web development class in the Spring in which I plan to focus on PHP and MySQL as primary tools. These will be students who have experience with HTML And web design, but most will have no experience with programming at all. I need recommendations for book(s) that will serve as decent primers... I expect that the PHP book will have enough of the fundamentals of programming to set them on the right path... Any suggestions for a MySQL book would be great. If both were in one book, even better! -- Chris Lott [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Books for PHP and MySQL Class
PHP and MySQL Web Development by Welling and Thomson, from SAMS. ISBN 0-672-31784-2. An easy read, but covers everything you'd need. I'm a little biased as a reviewer for your particular needs, since I've been coding for many years, and thus skipped a bunch of the intro PHP language chapters, but I've occasionally check those chapters for a thing or two. Check it out, this book seems to be highly recommended. -Original Message- From: Chris Lott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Books for PHP and MySQL Class I'll be teaching a web development class in the Spring in which I plan to focus on PHP and MySQL as primary tools. These will be students who have experience with HTML And web design, but most will have no experience with programming at all. I need recommendations for book(s) that will serve as decent primers... I expect that the PHP book will have enough of the fundamentals of programming to set them on the right path... Any suggestions for a MySQL book would be great. If both were in one book, even better! -- Chris Lott [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Books for PHP and MySQL Class
So far the best books that I have found for PHP and MySQL are: PHP: Developer's Cookbook by Sterlings Hughes (SAMS) MySQL/PHP Database Applications by Jay Greenspan Brad Bulger (MT books) I believe another person on our mailing list is putting out a book soon... hopefully maybe he'll rear his head, this would be a good time to promote it :) *nudge nudge* Enjoy! Rick I'll be teaching a web development class in the Spring in which I plan to focus on PHP and MySQL as primary tools. These will be students who have experience with HTML And web design, but most will have no experience with programming at all. I need recommendations for book(s) that will serve as decent primers... I expect that the PHP book will have enough of the fundamentals of programming to set them on the right path... Any suggestions for a MySQL book would be great. If both were in one book, even better! -- Chris Lott [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Books for PHP and MySQL Class
I think a better strategy would be to introduce them to the basics of databases in general as opposed to trying to teach MySQL to them. A good primer on DB's would be Databases for mere mortals by ... ? some guy! But the cover is orange/brown and not very thick. Can't find it here... where did I put it. MySQL only books are a bit technical, and basically cover installation with few good examples. The technical and syntax bits can also get a bit heavy-going in my opinion. Check out O'Reilly's MySQL and MSQL - pink cover. (for panzy MySQL developers! ... oops! I've got a copy.) But as far as PHP goes, check out PHP: Fast Easy Web Development (blue cover) by Julie Meloni - Prima Tech. It covers MySQL in as far as creating tables and stuff go. It has plenty of good examples in PHP too. Otherwise, the WROX books really are the best. Clint Tredway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I also have the PHP MySQL Web Development book and I used it to learn PHP and MySQL. I think it is one of the better books. my opinion.. Clint -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Lott) Date: 15 Nov 2001 19:41:18 - I'll be teaching a web development class in the Spring in which I plan to focus on PHP and MySQL as primary tools. These will be students who have experience with HTML And web design, but most will have no experience with programming at all. I need recommendations for book(s) that will serve as decent primers... I expect that the PHP book will have enough of the fundamentals of programming to set them on the right path... Any suggestions for a MySQL book would be great. If both were in one book, even better! -- Chris Lott [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Books for PHP and MySQL Class
That would be by Michael Hernandez -Original Message- From: The Big Roach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 4:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Books for PHP and MySQL Class I think a better strategy would be to introduce them to the basics of databases in general as opposed to trying to teach MySQL to them. A good primer on DB's would be Databases for mere mortals by ... ? some guy! But the cover is orange/brown and not very thick. Can't find it here... where did I put it. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Books for PHP and MySQL Class
On 15 Nov 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Big Roach) spake thusly: I think a better strategy would be to introduce them to the basics of databases in general as opposed to trying to teach MySQL to them. A good primer on DB's would be Databases for mere mortals by ... ? some guy! But the cover is orange/brown and not very thick. Can't find it here... where did I put it. I get what you are saying here. Since I am leaning towards the single MySQL/PHP book, I might add the Mere Mortals book as well. I want them to have a reference that will serve them later for PHP and MySQL though I am developing a lot of the Database and SQL basics myself, just as I am developing a lot of the intro programming material-- but I do want them to have something to hold in their hands and take with them as well... Thanks! chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
