Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
a- (more out of interest) any problems with tasktop? I've found it a bit buggy/pain to install in ganymede (although mylyn works a dream) Haven't had any issues with tasktop but I'm very impressed with it so far. Install was just like any other extension, I'm using zend studio 6.1 which is based on 3.4 but seems like zend is still using 3.3 install/update manager (not sure why). The reporting with tasktop is really great and easy to use. I like how i can send emails from within the ide, link to the filesystem, and browser (ff support was just added). I'm still waiting to see better integration with leopard. If you paid for a subscription, subscribe to the beta update site which i believed is updated weekly. Only problem i have is $99 is a little much :) b- mylyn with trac and svn; does the set-up allow yuo to automatically submit the bug update/notes with the files to svn; ie bugtracker and svn reports in sync if only via text? + have you compared to mylyn/ bugtracker? I'd be ultra-interested to know (and tbh would save me some more research) Are you talking about svn commit hooks? Trac has commit hooks for svn so commits can be posted to a specific ticket. For example your svn commit message can be "refs #313, #314 my commit message" and it will post that message to those tickets with links to the svn commit. When you do this mylyn sees the incoming message and updates the ticket locally as well. What's nice is you can, from within mylyn, is click each of the ticket numbers or the svn revision # to either view the changelog or the actual ticket. I haven't tried out bugtracker, i started using trac before i started using mylyn. I picked trac just because of the great wiki and svn integration and when i became aware of mylyn I was lucky enough that they had the trac connector with some great functionality. They've recently added sub-tickets with the masterticket trac plugin so you can have ticket dependencies. Hope this answers you questions. --Brendon On Oct 17, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Nathan Rixham wrote: Brendon Van Heyzen wrote: Have to say using eclipse/zend for eclipse with mylyn/tasktop really helps in keeping up with bug tracking (trac) with all my projects. Helps to keep everything organized, especially when management wants to know what's going on. SVN is also crucial and its nice to have commit hooks to work with trac. cheers! 2 questions; a- (more out of interest) any problems with tasktop? I've found it a bit buggy/pain to install in ganymede (although mylyn works a dream) b- mylyn with trac and svn; does the set-up allow yuo to automatically submit the bug update/notes with the files to svn; ie bugtracker and svn reports in sync if only via text? + have you compared to mylyn/bugtracker? I'd be ultra-interested to know (and tbh would save me some more research) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Nathan Rixham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Evening All, > > I'd be /really/ interested to know who uses what! > > *Procedural or OOP?* OOP > > > *Dev OS* Centos , some time XAMPP n > > > *Dev PHP Version* 5.2.6 > > > *Live Server OS* Centos > > > *Live Server PHP Version* 5.2.6 > > > *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* Apache 2.0.2 > > > *IDE / Dev Environment* Zend Studio > > > *Preferred Framework(s)?* Cake > > > *Do you Unit Test?* Yes most my apps. I use simpletest > > > *Most Used Internal PHP Class* Simplexml > > > *Preferred OS CMS* Drupal > > > *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth > mentioning:* > > ps: I'm not asking for any kind of research project, just interested and > interested to know what's most common + might learn something/find some new > tools/toys! > > pps: will reply myself as well but if I do here it'll make your intertwined > replies messy! > > Many Regards > > Nathan > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >
Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
On 17/10/2008, at 12:14, Nathan Rixham wrote: *Procedural or OOP?* OOP *Dev OS* Mac OS 10.5.5 *Dev PHP Version* 5.2.5 *Live Server OS* Linux 2.6.9-42.0.3.ELsmp #1 SMP *Live Server PHP Version* 5.2.6 *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* Apache 1.3.41 live and Apache 2.2.8 dev *IDE / Dev Environment* Zend Studio for Eclipse 6.1 *Preferred Framework(s)?* Sapphire *Do you Unit Test?* Do now. *Most Used Internal PHP Class* Not sure. Whichever one Sapphire uses the most. *Preferred OS CMS* SilverStripe *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth mentioning:* --- Simon Welsh Admin of http://simon.geek.nz/ Who said Microsoft never created a bug-free program? The blue screen never, ever crashes! http://www.thinkgeek.com/brain/gimme.cgi?wid=81d520e5e -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
Brendon Van Heyzen wrote: Have to say using eclipse/zend for eclipse with mylyn/tasktop really helps in keeping up with bug tracking (trac) with all my projects. Helps to keep everything organized, especially when management wants to know what's going on. SVN is also crucial and its nice to have commit hooks to work with trac. cheers! 2 questions; a- (more out of interest) any problems with tasktop? I've found it a bit buggy/pain to install in ganymede (although mylyn works a dream) b- mylyn with trac and svn; does the set-up allow yuo to automatically submit the bug update/notes with the files to svn; ie bugtracker and svn reports in sync if only via text? + have you compared to mylyn/bugtracker? I'd be ultra-interested to know (and tbh would save me some more research) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
*Procedural or OOP?* I try now to do everything OOP, its just worth spending the extra time (depending) going the OOP route even on small tasks *Dev OS* Mac OS X 10.5.5 *Dev PHP Version* 5.2.6 *Live Server OS* Gentoo linux (not sure version) *Live Server PHP Version* 5.2.5 (haven't upgraded it, i've been lazy) *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* apache 2.2 *IDE / Dev Environment* Zend Studio for eclipse, macvim *Preferred Framework(s)?* Zend Framework *Do you Unit Test?* None my of current projects, but future stuff i'm really going to push for it. *Most Used Internal PHP Class* pdo, mysqli *Preferred OS CMS* none really *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth mentioning:* Have to say using eclipse/zend for eclipse with mylyn/tasktop really helps in keeping up with bug tracking (trac) with all my projects. Helps to keep everything organized, especially when management wants to know what's going on. SVN is also crucial and its nice to have commit hooks to work with trac. --Brendon On Oct 16, 2008, at 7:14 PM, Nathan Rixham wrote: Evening All, I'd be /really/ interested to know who uses what! *Procedural or OOP?* *Dev OS* *Dev PHP Version* *Live Server OS* *Live Server PHP Version* *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* *IDE / Dev Environment* *Preferred Framework(s)?* *Do you Unit Test?* *Most Used Internal PHP Class* *Preferred OS CMS* *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth mentioning:* ps: I'm not asking for any kind of research project, just interested and interested to know what's most common + might learn something/ find some new tools/toys! pps: will reply myself as well but if I do here it'll make your intertwined replies messy! Many Regards Nathan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 00:14 +0100, Nathan Rixham wrote: > Evening All, > > I'd be /really/ interested to know who uses what! > > *Procedural or OOP?* > OOP > *Dev OS* > Ubuntu 8.04 > *Dev PHP Version* > PHP-5.2.3 > *Live Server OS* > Debian > *Live Server PHP Version* > PHP-5.2.3 > *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* > Apache 2 > *IDE / Dev Environment* > Zend Studio / Vim / nano > *Preferred Framework(s)?* > Chisimba > *Do you Unit Test?* > Yes - PHPUnit3 > *Most Used Internal PHP Class* > SPL classes > *Preferred OS CMS* > Chisimba CMS --Paul All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/public/portal_services/disclaimer.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
2008/10/17 Nathan Rixham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Evening All, > > I'd be /really/ interested to know who uses what! > > *Procedural or OOP?* > Mostly OO > > *Dev OS* > Ubuntu Hardy > > *Dev PHP Version* > 5.2.? - I don't remember > > *Live Server OS* > CentOS, Fedora > > *Live Server PHP Version* > 5.2.? > > *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* > Apache 2.2 > > *IDE / Dev Environment* > Eclipse Ganymede + PDT > > *Preferred Framework(s)?* Hopefully Zend soon, as I'm learning it now. > > > *Do you Unit Test?* No > > > *Most Used Internal PHP Class* PDO, Mysqli > > > *Preferred OS CMS* WordPress > > > *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth > mentioning:* No > > > ps: I'm not asking for any kind of research project, just interested and > interested to know what's most common + might learn something/find some new > tools/toys! > > pps: will reply myself as well but if I do here it'll make your intertwined > replies messy! > > Many Regards > > Nathan > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >
Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
> *Procedural or OOP?* OOP > *Dev OS* Windows XP > *Dev PHP Version* 5.2.6 > *Live Server OS* - > *Live Server PHP Version* - > *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* Apache 2.2 > *IDE / Dev Environment* UltraEdit > *Preferred Framework(s)?* Zend Framework, Ext JS > *Do you Unit Test?* Of course. > *Most Used Internal PHP Class* PDO > *Preferred OS CMS* Wordpress ;) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
> -Original Message- > From: Nathan Rixham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 6:14 PM > To: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts > > *Procedural or OOP?* Depends on the project. Large scope: OOP Small scope: (usually) Procedural ...but I've been known to go OOP on small projects if it seems more logical. > *Dev OS* WinXP and Ubuntu 7 > *Dev PHP Version* Home: 5.2.6 Work: 4.4.9 > *Live Server OS* Home: Windows Server 2003 and Ubuntu Work: Windows Server 2003 > *Live Server PHP Version* Home: 5.2.6 Work: 4.4.9 > *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* Home: IIS 6/7 and Apache 2.2.10 Work: IIS 6 > *IDE / Dev Environment* Crimson Editor > *Preferred Framework(s)?* None > *Do you Unit Test?* Generally, no > *Most Used Internal PHP Class* cURL and SimpleXML (or whatever it's called now) > *Preferred OS CMS* None > *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth > mentioning:* PCRE, baby! Todd Boyd Web Programmer -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Nathan Rixham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Evening All, > > I'd be /really/ interested to know who uses what! > > *Procedural or OOP?* > OOP > > *Dev OS* > Windows & CentOS > > *Dev PHP Version* > Win 5.1.2, CentOS 5.2.6 > > *Live Server OS* > Windows & CentOS > > *Live Server PHP Version* > Win 5.1.2, CentOS 5.2.6 > > *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* > Win IIS, Cent Apache 2 > > *IDE / Dev Environment* > PhpED > > *Preferred Framework(s)?* > None > > *Do you Unit Test?* > Sometimes > > *Most Used Internal PHP Class* > Soap & Curl > > *Preferred OS CMS* > I've only ever used Joomla, and it was once... -- -Dan Joseph www.canishosting.com - Plans start @ $1.99/month. "Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for the rest of the day. Light a man on fire, and will be warm for the rest of his life."
Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
2008/10/17 Nathan Rixham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Evening All, > > I'd be /really/ interested to know who uses what! > > *Procedural or OOP?* OOP but sometimes i have to procedural. > *Dev OS* Gentoo Linux > *Dev PHP Version* PHP 5.2.6-pl7-gentoo with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 > *Live Server OS* FreeBSD > *Live Server PHP Version* I don't know. 5.2.x > *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* Apache 2.2.x > *IDE / Dev Environment* Eclipse PDT or vim > *Preferred Framework(s)?* Zend Framework > *Do you Unit Test?* not yet. > *Most Used Internal PHP Class* PDT > *Preferred OS CMS* Drupal, but i don't like it. -- - - -- Csanyi Andras -- http://sayusi.hu -- Sayusi Ando -- "Bízzál Istenben és tartsd szárazon a puskaport!".-- Cromwell
Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
On Oct 16, 2008, at 7:14 PM, Nathan Rixham wrote: Evening All, I'd be /really/ interested to know who uses what! *Procedural or OOP?* Procedural, haven't learned OOP yet. and besides... $this = $that; makes more sense to me then $this->$that; :) *Dev OS* OS X Leopard (What ever the most current version is) *Dev PHP Version* 5.2.2 I believe *Live Server OS* It used to be a OS X Server running PHP 5.2.2. But after seeing how fast one of my sites is that is hosted on another server, I may be switching all my stuff away from hosting it my self :) *Live Server PHP Version* 5.2.2 *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* Currently, apache 1.2.8 on my box, apache 2.2 on my hosts box *IDE / Dev Environment* Apple Xcode 3. Mostly for the syntax highlighting. *Preferred Framework(s)?* Haven't found one I like yet. *Do you Unit Test?* Not currently... Need to research it more. *Most Used Internal PHP Class* probably HEREDOC... *Preferred OS CMS* I have used Joomla, and WordPress and like both. Drupal I haven't tried yet but it looks rather nice. *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth mentioning:* I do try and use subversion if I think the project will be larger then a few files...But I'm not real good at that yet. -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 11287 James St Holland, MI 49424 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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*Procedural or OOP?* Both depending on the scale of the project. *Dev OS* Usually Debian 4 *Dev PHP Version* 5.2.6 *Live Server OS* Client's choice. For my full time job I write for CentOS 5 and Debian based OSs. *Live Server PHP Version* 5.2.6 - It doesn't make sense to program in a version you're not deploying to. *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* Apache 2 and Nginx *IDE / Dev Environment* Gedit for Debian. *Preferred Framework(s)?* Cake is alright *Do you Unit Test?* Yes, at my full time job. *Most Used Internal PHP Class* Mysqli *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth mentioning:* nope. On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 6:12 AM, Tom Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's mine. > > *Procedural or OOP?* > > Both, even when I'm doing procedural stuff at the very least I'll have a > classes directory/autoloader function where I have OOP API's to assist in > the design. > > *Dev OS* > > At home windows vista. At work Linux Slackware. > > *Dev PHP Version* > > PHP 5.2.5. I would run ladder versions But there's problems with the > Postgres drivers on PHP 5.2.6/7 5.3 alpha. > > *Live Server OS* > > Linux > > *Live Server PHP Version* > > 5.1.2 > > *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* > > Apache 2 > > *IDE / Dev Environment* > > Zend Studio for Linux or Windows always. > > *Preferred Framework(s)?* > > Zend Framework R0ckz. Definitely preferred to say the least :) Cake is cool > programming wise. Usability wise I run for my life. > > *Do you Unit Test?* > > Not really. > > *Most Used Internal PHP Class* > > Pdo_mysql/pgsql. > *Preferred OS CMS* > > Joomla. > > Tom Shaw > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "When one door closes, another opens; but we often look so long and so > regretfully upon the closed door that we do not see the one which has > opened > for us." Alexander Graham Bell > > -Original Message- > From: Nathan Rixham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 6:14 PM > To: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts > > Evening All, > > I'd be /really/ interested to know who uses what! > > *Procedural or OOP?* > > *Dev OS* > > *Dev PHP Version* > > *Live Server OS* > > *Live Server PHP Version* > > *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* > > *IDE / Dev Environment* > > *Preferred Framework(s)?* > > *Do you Unit Test?* > > *Most Used Internal PHP Class* > > *Preferred OS CMS* > > *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth > mentioning:* > > ps: I'm not asking for any kind of research project, just interested and > interested to know what's most common + might learn something/find some > new tools/toys! > > pps: will reply myself as well but if I do here it'll make your > intertwined replies messy! > > Many Regards > > Nathan > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Kyle Terry | www.kyleterry.com
RE: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
Here's mine. *Procedural or OOP?* Both, even when I'm doing procedural stuff at the very least I'll have a classes directory/autoloader function where I have OOP API's to assist in the design. *Dev OS* At home windows vista. At work Linux Slackware. *Dev PHP Version* PHP 5.2.5. I would run ladder versions But there's problems with the Postgres drivers on PHP 5.2.6/7 5.3 alpha. *Live Server OS* Linux *Live Server PHP Version* 5.1.2 *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* Apache 2 *IDE / Dev Environment* Zend Studio for Linux or Windows always. *Preferred Framework(s)?* Zend Framework R0ckz. Definitely preferred to say the least :) Cake is cool programming wise. Usability wise I run for my life. *Do you Unit Test?* Not really. *Most Used Internal PHP Class* Pdo_mysql/pgsql. *Preferred OS CMS* Joomla. Tom Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When one door closes, another opens; but we often look so long and so regretfully upon the closed door that we do not see the one which has opened for us." Alexander Graham Bell -Original Message- From: Nathan Rixham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 6:14 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts Evening All, I'd be /really/ interested to know who uses what! *Procedural or OOP?* *Dev OS* *Dev PHP Version* *Live Server OS* *Live Server PHP Version* *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* *IDE / Dev Environment* *Preferred Framework(s)?* *Do you Unit Test?* *Most Used Internal PHP Class* *Preferred OS CMS* *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth mentioning:* ps: I'm not asking for any kind of research project, just interested and interested to know what's most common + might learn something/find some new tools/toys! pps: will reply myself as well but if I do here it'll make your intertwined replies messy! Many Regards Nathan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
[snip] *Procedural or OOP?* Mix - depends on the job to be done *Dev OS* SUSe Linux *Dev PHP Version* 5.n *Live Server OS* SUSe Linux *Live Server PHP Version* 5.n *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* Apache 2.n *IDE / Dev Environment* Eclipse / Zend *Preferred Framework(s)?* none *Do you Unit Test?* yes *Most Used Internal PHP Class* H.I do not think we have a most used or if we do the margin is very small *Preferred OS CMS* none *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth mentioning:* Zend Platform [/snip] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
On Friday 17 October 2008 02:14:18 Nathan Rixham wrote: > Evening All, > > I'd be /really/ interested to know who uses what! > > *Procedural or OOP?* Procedural in design. And code a bit different. I'm groupping my functions under classes like util, user, session etc. Each function is public static. also I got some public static arrays and strings. like k5::$config etc. This gives me some kind of name space and prevent any kind of variable chrash. > *Dev OS* Kubuntu > *Dev PHP Version* 5.2 > *Live Server OS* Centos, RHEL, Debian > *Live Server PHP Version* 4, 5.1, 5.2 > *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* Apache 1.3 2.0 2.2 > *IDE / Dev Environment* Kate, Eclipse, > *Preferred Framework(s)?* nope > *Do you Unit Test?* what ? > *Most Used Internal PHP Class* simple xml, > *Preferred OS CMS* Must use TYPO3, have own CMS/Framework > *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth > mentioning:* Using PHP array format for storing data to generate greater benefit opcode cache. I'm using inline coding format for templates. Much faster than traditional search and replace model and with opcode cache even more faster. > ps: I'm not asking for any kind of research project, just interested and > interested to know what's most common + might learn something/find some > new tools/toys! > > pps: will reply myself as well but if I do here it'll make your > intertwined replies messy! > > Many Regards > > Nathan Regards Sancar -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Nathan Rixham schreef: > Evening All, > > I'd be /really/ interested to know who uses what! > > *Procedural or OOP?* mostly OOP with a smattering of helper functions. small CLI scripts are often procedural. > > *Dev OS* Mac OS X Leopard (with winXP VM) > > *Dev PHP Version* daily dev 5.2.6 I also run various alphas of other version (e.g. 5.3) for testing/playing > > *Live Server OS* Debian, Redhat > *Live Server PHP Version* 5.1.2 thru 5.2.6 ... coding defensively and conservatively generally means that there are no problems developing on 5.2.6 and rolling out on 5.1.2 but I try to avoid it. > *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* Apache2.x (some projects run on Apache1.3.x ... but I don't really feel the difference) > *IDE / Dev Environment* Zend Studio Zend Eclipse Eclipse with PDT/Aptana Terminal.app (bash) nano (shell editor) TextWrangler TextEdit (winXP) > *Preferred Framework(s)?* I eat my own dogfood. I like the look of code in ZendFramework but the whole library thang I find rather intrusive ... if I find something in a framework I really need/want I generally strip it out - doing away with everything I don't need, making it conform more to the project in question and using the 'refactor time' as an excuse to understand the details of the code in question ... this all assumes that the framework in question allows for this kind of thing (I always leave in the relevant author attributions, etc) > *Do you Unit Test?* not really, but I generally develop in a unit-testy kind of way, I write code that is known to fail because it relies on as yet unwritten code ... I run it to check it fails as expected then iteratively add required, unwritten code, checking at each step to see it fail in a new, exzpected way then add the next piece until Im left with the end result. I really should get into unit testing, deadlines, lack of budget and general intertia always seem to get in the way ... I must do better :-/ > *Most Used Internal PHP Class* Exception. I also use Iterator & related interfaces quite a bit. > *Preferred OS CMS* er? I'll hack anything if I have to. but I don't really have a preference, never really found anything that satisfies my desire for clean, understandable code. the usual suspects are all somewhat familiar to me but I wouldn't call them friends. I want to take a look the new typo3 engine ... it seems very ambitious and Im interested in the potential for a generic workflow engine. > *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth > mentioning:* I use APC quite a bit, play with memcache when I can. and I use firebird (which is a right can of worms atm with regard to the status quo of the php extension ... as a DB firebird is very cool). phpmailer often makes an appearance in projects - I find it to be a very simple, quick wrapper for handling web-originated emails (not bulk mailing though ... I use mimemail class with tyhe qmail extension for that generally). Sphinx searchd/indexer is what I'm currently getting to grips with ... other than the basic configuration and figuring out how to managably work with delta updates Im scratching my head as to how to manage sphinx search/indexing for multiple, small sites on a single server. oh ... I also frequently use this list as a stress-relief mechanism ;-) > ps: I'm not asking for any kind of research project, just interested and > interested to know what's most common + might learn something/find some > new tools/toys! > > pps: will reply myself as well but if I do here it'll make your > intertwined replies messy! > > Many Regards > > Nathan > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On 17 Oct 2008, at 00:14, Nathan Rixham wrote: I'd be /really/ interested to know who uses what! *Procedural or OOP?* My standard architecture is OOP with procedural controllers. *Dev OS* OSX. *Dev PHP Version* 5.2.6 *Live Server OS* CentOS and FreeBSD. *Live Server PHP Version* 5.2.6 *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* LoadBalancer: nginx Static servers: lighttpd App servers: Apache 2 *IDE / Dev Environment* Netbeans, Aptana, TextMate and vi. *Preferred Framework(s)?* Home-grown every time. *Do you Unit Test?* Yes. *Most Used Internal PHP Class* MySQLi. *Preferred OS CMS* Wordpress. *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth mentioning:* Git, MySQL, Memcache and Gearman. -Stut -- http://stut.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Quoting Nathan Rixham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Evening All, I'd be /really/ interested to know who uses what! *Procedural or OOP?* OO *Dev OS* Ubuntu / Windows XP *Dev PHP Version* 5.2.6 *Live Server OS* Debian / Suse *Live Server PHP Version* 5.2.6 *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* Apache 2 *IDE / Dev Environment* Zend Studio for Eclipse *Preferred Framework(s)?* Zend Framework / Symfony *Do you Unit Test?* Sometimes *Most Used Internal PHP Class* *Preferred OS CMS* *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth mentioning:* SVN ps: I'm not asking for any kind of research project, just interested and interested to know what's most common + might learn something/find some new tools/toys! pps: will reply myself as well but if I do here it'll make your intertwined replies messy! Many Regards Nathan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
Nathan Rixham wrote: Evening All, I'd be /really/ interested to know who uses what! *Procedural or OOP?* Mainly OOP nowadays *Dev OS* 'Eclipse' So I can run transparently on Windows or Linux depending on the customer site *Dev PHP Version* In limbo at present awaiting sorting out of windows snapshots :( *Live Server OS* Various Windows + Mandriva Linux on sites where the windows bind has been removed! *Live Server PHP Version* PHP5.2.6 *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* Apache 2.2.8 *IDE / Dev Environment* Eclipse + PHPEclipse ( STILL better than PDT in my opinion ) I also run all of the documentation and legacy C code through Eclipse. The only thing I don't do with it is Java ;) *Preferred Framework(s)?* ADOdb + Smarty through bitweaver *Do you Unit Test?* Not as much as I probably should *Most Used Internal PHP Class* No idea - most would be wrapped in something else *Preferred OS CMS* bitweaver but I'm not sure where 'OS' comes into it? *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth mentioning:* phpdoc to produce very useful cross reference information on packages -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 00:14 +0100, Nathan Rixham wrote: > Evening All, > > I'd be really interested to know who uses what! > > *Procedural or OOP?* Procedural > *Dev OS* opensuse 11.0 > *Dev PHP Version* 5.2.5 & 4.3.8-9-10-11 > *Live Server OS* opensuse 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, 11.0, 8.2, 9.1 > *Live Server PHP Version* 5.2.5 & 4.3.8-9-10-11 > *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* Apache 2.0 and 2.2 > *IDE / Dev Environment* Kate, vi > *Preferred Framework(s)?* None > *Do you Unit Test?* Not really > *Most Used Internal PHP Class* None > *Preferred OS CMS* None > *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth > mentioning:* I use the XSLT stuff a lot - very fast for doing XSL transforms. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
On Thursday 16 October 2008 6:14:18 pm Nathan Rixham wrote: > Evening All, > > I'd be /really/ interested to know who uses what! > > *Procedural or OOP?* Right tool for the job. I'm comfortable in either. Most of my work these days is in a large open source procedural framework, but I'm slowly working more and more OOP into it. :-) > *Dev OS* Kubuntu Hardy. > *Dev PHP Version* 5.2.4 > *Live Server OS* For my personal stuff, hosted FreeBSD. At my company, we use a web host that's running either RHEL or Fedora. (I honestly forget which.) > *Live Server PHP Version* 5.2.6 > *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* Apache 2 in most places, but I think a few may be running 1.3 for no good reason. > *IDE / Dev Environment* Zend Studio 5.5 is the only IDE I can actually say I like. More recent versions of Eclipse / Eclipse PDT at least don't suck as much as they used to, which is the only good thing I can say about any of 'em. > *Preferred Framework(s)?* 98% of my PHP is written on, for, and with Drupal. :-) > *Do you Unit Test?* For internal framework stuff (where I can do proper TDD), extensively. For day to day for clients, not all that much. Most of that work is not really unit-testable to begin with, and functional tests are considerably harder to do at this point in Drupal. (Although that is improving.) > *Most Used Internal PHP Class* PDO, probably, since I build the new Drupal DB layer on top of it. However, I am a huge huge fan of ArrayAccess, simply for its cool factor. > *Preferred OS CMS* Drupal (surprise surprise). > *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth > mentioning:* Don't underestimate the power of associative arrays. You can get some really deep, really powerful, really fast data structures with a little care and an embracing of associative arrays. > ps: I'm not asking for any kind of research project, just interested and > interested to know what's most common + might learn something/find some > new tools/toys! > > pps: will reply myself as well but if I do here it'll make your > intertwined replies messy! > > Many Regards > > Nathan -- Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 00:14 +0100, Nathan Rixham wrote: > Evening All, > > I'd be /really/ interested to know who uses what! > > *Procedural or OOP?* Procedural > *Dev OS* Suse 10.3, Fedora 6, Redhat ?, Windows Server 2003 > *Dev PHP Version* 5.2.5 & 4.? > *Live Server OS* Suse 10.3, Fedora 6, Redhat ?, Windows Server 2003 > *Live Server PHP Version* 5.2.5 & 4.? > *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* Apache & IIS > *IDE / Dev Environment* Kate > *Preferred Framework(s)?* None > *Do you Unit Test?* No > *Most Used Internal PHP Class* SimpleXML > *Preferred OS CMS* generally build custom ones for jobs > *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth > mentioning:* > > ps: I'm not asking for any kind of research project, just interested and > interested to know what's most common + might learn something/find some > new tools/toys! > > pps: will reply myself as well but if I do here it'll make your > intertwined replies messy! > > Many Regards > > Nathan > Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Nathan Rixham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Evening All, > > > > I'd be /really/ interested to know who uses what! > > > > *Procedural or OOP?* Procedural > > *Dev OS* Mandriva Linux (home and work) > > *Dev PHP Version* 5.2.6 > > > *Live Server OS* Mandriva Linux, Ubuntu 8.04 and Solaris > > > *Live Server PHP Version* 5.2.6 > > > *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* Apache 2 > > *IDE / Dev Environment* I usually just use VIM. Occasionally I'll use Eclipse. > > *Preferred Framework(s)?* Don't use 'em > > *Do you Unit Test?* eh? > > *Most Used Internal PHP Class* dom -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 00:14 +0100, Nathan Rixham wrote: > Evening All, > > I'd be /really/ interested to know who uses what! > > *Procedural or OOP?* Primarily OOP, occasionally procedural for some one off quick access functions. InterJinn will also generate "anonymous" procedural code. > *Dev OS* Ubuntu Hardy-- I usually upgrade a couple of months after a new release comes out and has had a chance to stabilize. Almost everytime I get caught with some gotcha for my system :) > *Dev PHP Version* 5.2.6 with occasional reversion to 4.4.9. Sometimes I also download nightly snapshot. > *Live Server OS* Debian Sarge/Etch/Lenny CentOS 4/5 RHEL3 RH 7.3 (valhalla) Solaris > *Live Server PHP Version* I can't remember them all. Some are strictly based on the distro release cycle. Some are custom compiled and so usually are the latest version. > *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* Apache 1.3 Apache 2 Zeus > *IDE / Dev Environment* Several rxvt-unicode terminal windows. JOE for my editor. Opera browser for primary visual testing. Firefox for stickier testing (Firebug). Windows via vmware for final cross-browser checks in IE. > *Preferred Framework(s)?* Need i say? :) > *Do you Unit Test?* No. Clients don't pay me to unit test. I'm not against it, but it hasn't been an issue for them yet. > *Most Used Internal PHP Class* I don't use any internal classes on a regular basis. I think I've only ever used one... tidy. > *Preferred OS CMS* No preference. I'm comfortable in a wide range and quickly pick up on new codebases when necessary. > *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth > mentioning:* Accelerator... I use eAccelerator. Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
On Oct 16, 2008, at 6:14 PM, Nathan Rixham wrote: Evening All, I'd be /really/ interested to know who uses what! *Procedural or OOP?* OOP Always *Dev OS* OS X *Dev PHP Version* 5.2.x *Live Server OS* OpenSuse/Redhat *Live Server PHP Version* 5.2.x *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* Apache *IDE / Dev Environment* Netbeans 6.5 (beta) for big projects Textmate for small one offs *Preferred Framework(s)?* Home grown + Smarty Templating Engine *Do you Unit Test?* heh... *Preferred OS CMS* Wordpress for speed, smarty for anything else *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth mentioning:* Not php exactly, but strongly related: JQuery for all javascript/ ajax needs -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
*Procedural or OOP?* oo where possible. *Dev OS* ubuntu *Dev PHP Version* 5.2.x (whatever ubuntu supplies at the time) *Live Server OS* mix of debian etch, rhel 4/5. *Live Server PHP Version* 5.1.6 (deb), 5.2.0 i think on rhel. *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* apache 2.2 *IDE / Dev Environment* vim. *Preferred Framework(s)?* don't have one. *Do you Unit Test?* yep. *Most Used Internal PHP Class* pdo. *Preferred OS CMS* don't have one. *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth mentioning:* version control is a must. -- Postgresql & php tutorials http://www.designmagick.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Nathan Rixham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Evening All, > > I'd be /really/ interested to know who uses what! > > *Procedural or OOP?* Both, though while I am still on the fence about OOP in a web based app, I am trying for the next few apps > > > *Dev OS* Windows @ work Ubuntu @ home > > > *Dev PHP Version* 5.2.6 > > > *Live Server OS* > Windows 2003 FC5 > > *Live Server PHP Version* 4.x/5 at work Looking for a new web host for my stuff > > > *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* IIS 6 (work) Apache 2 (everything else) > > > *IDE / Dev Environment* Aptana Assorted text editors > > > *Preferred Framework(s)?* Cake Zend symfony > > > *Do you Unit Test?* Yes, fatal not to > > > *Most Used Internal PHP Class* SimpleXML, PDO, Mysqli > > > *Preferred OS CMS* Wordpress > > > -- Bastien Cat, the other other white meat
Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Nathan Rixham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > *Procedural or OOP?* I'm perfectly comfortable with both, but call me old-hat --- I far prefer procedural. > *Dev OS* Loaded question, since - as a small ISP - I generally try to create an environment that exactly-matches the client's if I can, and if the project is of a large enough scope to warrant such. Otherwise, it'll be CentOS or Mandriva most often. > *Dev PHP Version* Again, loaded question, for the same reason. Never anything newer or of a different branch than the client's server though, and always being sure that the code will be compliant with other (recent) versions of PHP. > *Live Server OS* Generally, I use CentOS5. I've been involved with that project since 2004, and Mandrake (now Mandriva, of course) since 2002, which is what I use on the desktop side. > *Live Server PHP Version* Usually the latest stable, but depending on the CHANGELOG, I may delay the installation due to a few important reasons. Namely: level of activity (traffic) on the server, what would even possibly cease to Just Work[tm], et cetera. > *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* I'm still on the path with Apache2 and - in rarer and rarer occasions - the 1.3 branch. I've used a bunch of other servers, and recently started playing around with Igor Sysoev's NGINX, but aside from Apache, the only server I've really stood completely by was a tiny Windows server written by Mark Thompson at AnalogX. I used to use it for all of my home-based sites housed on a Win98 box given to me (including my X10 and speech-over-web development), written in both Perl and PHP over the years. > *IDE / Dev Environment* Vim on CLI. For everything. 'Nuff said. Yeah, that's how serious I am. 'Nuff said. End transmission. -- More full-root dedicated server packages: Intel 2.4GHz/60GB/512MB/2TB $49.99/mo. Intel 3.06GHz/80GB/1GB/2TB $59.99/mo. Intel 2.4GHz/320/GB/1GB/3TB $74.99/mo. Dedicated servers, VPS, and hosting from $2.50/mo. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Dev Facts
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Nathan Rixham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Evening All, > > I'd be /really/ interested to know who uses what! > > *Procedural or OOP?* oop > > *Dev OS* ubuntu & os x > > *Dev PHP Version* php 5.2.6 > > *Live Server OS* Mix of Red Hat Enteprise & Debian > > *Live Server PHP Version* php 5.2.6 > > *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* Apache 1.3 & 2.2.x > > *IDE / Dev Environment* Eclipse PDT > > *Preferred Framework(s)?* Zend & My own "tools" > > *Do you Unit Test?* Yes with phpunit 3.x (Used to use simpletest until I found all of the code coverage stuff too nice) > > *Most Used Internal PHP Class* Iterator or SimpleXML. Honestly there aren't all that many internal classes I use. Usually they're light wrappers to make stuff like working with images, db's, etc easier. > > *Preferred OS CMS* > > *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth > mentioning:* svn > > ps: I'm not asking for any kind of research project, just interested and > interested to know what's most common + might learn something/find some new > tools/toys! > > pps: will reply myself as well but if I do here it'll make your intertwined > replies messy! > > Many Regards > > Nathan > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP Dev Facts
Evening All, I'd be /really/ interested to know who uses what! *Procedural or OOP?* *Dev OS* *Dev PHP Version* *Live Server OS* *Live Server PHP Version* *Which HTTP Server Software (+version)?* *IDE / Dev Environment* *Preferred Framework(s)?* *Do you Unit Test?* *Most Used Internal PHP Class* *Preferred OS CMS* *Anything else you use frequently in you're PHP'ing that's worth mentioning:* ps: I'm not asking for any kind of research project, just interested and interested to know what's most common + might learn something/find some new tools/toys! pps: will reply myself as well but if I do here it'll make your intertwined replies messy! Many Regards Nathan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
