[PHP] PHP as Application Server
Hi, Maybe this topic have been already on board, but I could not find nothing in google, so my question to PHP maintaneers (and other users too) is: Why there is no possibility to run PHP in application server way among other SAPI modules and other possibilities to run PHP? PHP would encounter great performance boost and became more enterprise :) Just look at Ruby which is slow as hell compared even with PHP. By application server I mean scenario when there is statefull application on server side not only by session mechanizms but all classes definitions maintained in memory (no need to load class definition on every request), static class members (and their changes) persistent, background threads, etc. This way any op-code cachers won't be necessary... sounds great, huh? others have it already, so why doesn't PHP? are there any cons? problems too hard to solve (one can be memory leaks, thread safe coding, etc)? I mean it - I am realy curious why there is no such possibility and is there any hope we could get it? TIA for any answers on this topic.
Re: [PHP] PHP as Application Server
My recent experience is PHP eats more memory. But it matters when you are running it under memory constraint device. For a high end server its not a matter. I built an chat server using socket functions which was intended to run on embedded device. I didn't want to load apache. So I wrote it in plain PHP (as I am good at it). The server was working good until I my memory runs out. My memory requirement was really low, about 32M. Thats the total memory for everything. I ran a heavy RIA chat application with. Later I change the language to non-PHP (name of that language might start flame-war). Now its working well so far. One thing I know is, If you want to do it, you can do it. It'll need some effort but still doable. Performance optimization comes after development. So you can have your high performance enterprise application server. -- Shiplu.Mokadd.im ImgSign.com | A dynamic signature machine Innovation distinguishes between follower and leader
Re: [PHP] PHP as Application Server
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Maciej Liżewski maciej.lizew...@gmail.com wrote: Why there is no possibility to run PHP in application server way among other SAPI modules and other possibilities to run PHP? PHP would encounter great performance boost and became more enterprise :) Just look at Ruby which is slow as hell compared even with PHP. By application server I mean scenario when there is statefull application on server side not only by session mechanizms but all classes definitions maintained in memory (no need to load class definition on every request), static class members (and their changes) persistent, background threads, etc. This way any op-code cachers won't be necessary... sounds great, huh? others have it already, so why doesn't PHP? are there any cons? problems too hard to solve (one can be memory leaks, thread safe coding, etc)? I mean it - I am realy curious why there is no such possibility and is there any hope we could get it? While there are no real plans to incorporate a full-fledged application server at this time, PHP 5.4 does have an embedded server[1] for development and such. It's certainly not advisable to use it for production, but the fact is, it's there. With regard to an actual production-worthy application server, you might be interested in HipHop[2], which was developed by some of the engineers over at Facebook. ^1: http://php.net/manual/en/features.commandline.webserver.php ^2: https://developers.facebook.com/blog/post/2010/02/02/hiphop-for-php--move-fast/ -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
