Re: [PHP] something weird is going on...
At 20.03.2002 16:28, you wrote: > >Sorry bringing Netscape issue up again but I seem to have found >something... >And to illustrate the problem, here's the file: >http://kulchitski.com/problem/ Hi Val, for me it looks OK, no fault to see. (NS405,451,475) I´d suggest, that you enclose your width and height values in parentesis , so that they look height="100" width="200" also all other values. I had problems with the NS4<6 family on this. Also the vals >topmargin="0" leftmargin="0" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0"< added to the body tag, make your left side notes look more real, as ther´s a cutted left side. HTH Oliver -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] something weird is going on...
Could be a browser cache issue. Open just the image in the browser (http://kulchitski.com/problem/images/bottomcell_bg.gif) and hit Ctrl+Refresh. Go back to the page and see if it doesn't show up. Attractive looking page by the way. :) -Kevin -Original Message- From: Vlad Kulchitski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 2:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] something weird is going on... Sorry bringing Netscape issue up again but I seem to have found something... Here's the issue, I am talking about image-background in table cell ... the problem is that one of the cells shows background, one of them does... the index.html file attached... This cells shows background: This doesn't: NOTE: the weird thing is that when I change the image name the the one on the first cell where it works, it shows the image, but when I change it back to bottomcell_bg.gif it doesn't... I went to change GIF files and they have the same property, both GIF(indexed colour)... And to illustrate the problem, here's the file: http://kulchitski.com/problem/ Vlad -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] something weird is going on...
Sorry bringing Netscape issue up again but I seem to have found something... Here's the issue, I am talking about image-background in table cell ... the problem is that one of the cells shows background, one of them does... the index.html file attached... This cells shows background: This doesn't: NOTE: the weird thing is that when I change the image name the the one on the first cell where it works, it shows the image, but when I change it back to bottomcell_bg.gif it doesn't... I went to change GIF files and they have the same property, both GIF(indexed colour)... And to illustrate the problem, here's the file: http://kulchitski.com/problem/ Vlad -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Something weird
So how is that weird? - Original Message - From: "David OBrien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 2:02 PM Subject: [PHP] Something weird > I just installed a fresh RH 7.1 server with compiled apache and php 4.0.6 > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Something weird
Gezz... hope you use a web mail or something for this list. Otherwise all these emails on 26.4 (what a strange number) would take ages to download in cases like when you are coming back from a vacation or "was too busy last week" -maxim maletsky -Original Message- From: Kevin Pratt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 5:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Something weird okie :) just thought it was funny that everybody is talking about something that can be changed . :) and it was also a little bit of a shot at everybody's rants... I completely agree that taking the small performance hit is much better than getting the old version of a site... and I can say this because I live in the country and only get 26.4k so I should really want to have a cache.. Have fun! Kevin - Original Message - From: "Inércia Sensorial" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Something weird > Kevin, we were talking about cache in an user point of view... > > :-D > > > > -- > > > Julio Nobrega. > > A hora está chegando: > http://sourceforge.net/projects/toca > > "Kevin Pratt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > 009f01c10655$b3558e40$0300a8c0@ouelong">news:009f01c10655$b3558e40$0300a8c0@ouelong... > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Something weird
dunno... I just make all my pages force a reload for everyone :) - Original Message - From: "Inércia Sensorial" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Something weird > Me too. Once I changed browser and took me days to find out why some pages > weren´t changing :-) > > Does the header(); function returns some kind of true or false? Maybe we > could tell users to don´t cache to show all dynamic stuff. I heard somewhere > (not sure about this) that Refresh on meta and similar techniques doesn't > always work... (well, like everything! :)) > > -- > > > Julio Nobrega. > > A hora está chegando: > http://sourceforge.net/projects/toca > > "Kevin Pratt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > 00a901c10659$00c74580$0300a8c0@ouelong">news:00a901c10659$00c74580$0300a8c0@ouelong... > > okie :) just thought it was funny that everybody is talking about > something > > that can be changed . > > > > :) > > > > and it was also a little bit of a shot at everybody's rants... I > completely > > agree that taking the small performance hit is much better than getting > the > > old version of a site... and I can say this because I live in the country > > and only get 26.4k so I should really want to have a cache.. > > > > > > Have fun! > > Kevin > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Something weird
even when i had 28.8, i'd always turn the cache off ... a cache isnt a feature, it's a bug. :) i wish everybody did the same... i get calls every once in a while from clients asking "why isnt our page updated" or "why doesnt this work" 9 times out of 10, it's their browsers showing them outdated information. > -Original Message- > From: Kevin Pratt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Subject: Re: [PHP] Something weird > > okie :) just thought it was funny that everybody is talking about something > that can be changed . > > :) > > and it was also a little bit of a shot at everybody's rants... I completely > agree that taking the small performance hit is much better than getting the > old version of a site... and I can say this because I live in the country > and only get 26.4k so I should really want to have a cache.. > > Have fun! > Kevin -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Something weird
Me too. Once I changed browser and took me days to find out why some pages weren´t changing :-) Does the header(); function returns some kind of true or false? Maybe we could tell users to don´t cache to show all dynamic stuff. I heard somewhere (not sure about this) that Refresh on meta and similar techniques doesn't always work... (well, like everything! :)) -- Julio Nobrega. A hora está chegando: http://sourceforge.net/projects/toca "Kevin Pratt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 00a901c10659$00c74580$0300a8c0@ouelong">news:00a901c10659$00c74580$0300a8c0@ouelong... > okie :) just thought it was funny that everybody is talking about something > that can be changed . > > :) > > and it was also a little bit of a shot at everybody's rants... I completely > agree that taking the small performance hit is much better than getting the > old version of a site... and I can say this because I live in the country > and only get 26.4k so I should really want to have a cache.. > > > Have fun! > Kevin -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Something weird
okie :) just thought it was funny that everybody is talking about something that can be changed . :) and it was also a little bit of a shot at everybody's rants... I completely agree that taking the small performance hit is much better than getting the old version of a site... and I can say this because I live in the country and only get 26.4k so I should really want to have a cache.. Have fun! Kevin - Original Message - From: "Inércia Sensorial" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Something weird > Kevin, we were talking about cache in an user point of view... > > :-D > > > > -- > > > Julio Nobrega. > > A hora está chegando: > http://sourceforge.net/projects/toca > > "Kevin Pratt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > 009f01c10655$b3558e40$0300a8c0@ouelong">news:009f01c10655$b3558e40$0300a8c0@ouelong... > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Something weird
Kevin, we were talking about cache in an user point of view... :-D -- Julio Nobrega. A hora está chegando: http://sourceforge.net/projects/toca "Kevin Pratt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 009f01c10655$b3558e40$0300a8c0@ouelong">news:009f01c10655$b3558e40$0300a8c0@ouelong... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Something weird
Why not just make all your pages force a no cache or a refresh? Kevin - Original Message - From: "Inércia Sensorial" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Something weird > Me too. I always put 'check for new versions' or 'don´t cache' or similar. > While I am aware that cached pages doesn't perform well with dinamic pages, > the browser developers are also aware that what the user want is to see the > page. > > If you ask any average user what is his preference 'Load faster or don't > cache?'... he will probaly answer 'load faster', IF he knows what the hell a > cached page is... > > -- > > > Julio Nobrega. > > A hora está chegando: > http://sourceforge.net/projects/toca > > "scott [gts]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > maybe it's just me, but caches drive me nuts... > > > > i know... but IMO, i'll take a slight performance > > hit any day to make sure i get the most recent page... > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Inércia Sensorial [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Subject: Re: [PHP] Something weird > > > > > > > for some bizarre reason, almost every browser i've seen > > > > has the default option set to "cache everything and never > > > > look for updates" > > > > > >Connection speed. Cached pages load faster > > > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Something weird
Me too. I always put 'check for new versions' or 'don´t cache' or similar. While I am aware that cached pages doesn't perform well with dinamic pages, the browser developers are also aware that what the user want is to see the page. If you ask any average user what is his preference 'Load faster or don't cache?'... he will probaly answer 'load faster', IF he knows what the hell a cached page is... -- Julio Nobrega. A hora está chegando: http://sourceforge.net/projects/toca "scott [gts]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > maybe it's just me, but caches drive me nuts... > > i know... but IMO, i'll take a slight performance > hit any day to make sure i get the most recent page... > > > -Original Message- > > From: Inércia Sensorial [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Subject: Re: [PHP] Something weird > > > > > for some bizarre reason, almost every browser i've seen > > > has the default option set to "cache everything and never > > > look for updates" > > > >Connection speed. Cached pages load faster > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Something weird
maybe it's just me, but caches drive me nuts... i know... but IMO, i'll take a slight performance hit any day to make sure i get the most recent page... > -Original Message- > From: Inércia Sensorial [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Subject: Re: [PHP] Something weird > > > for some bizarre reason, almost every browser i've seen > > has the default option set to "cache everything and never > > look for updates" > >Connection speed. Cached pages load faster -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Something weird
> for some bizarre reason, almost every browser i've seen > has the default option set to "cache everything and never > look for updates" Connection speed. Cached pages load faster -- Julio Nobrega. A hora está chegando: http://sourceforge.net/projects/toca -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Something weird
Half the message didn't get sent ... If I manually do a apachectl restart the page updates with the correct changes on it the other 3 apache / php servers I have all work correctly just this one on 7.1 the rest are 6.2 redhat installs. -Dave At 02:04 PM 7/6/2001 -0400, David OBrien wrote: >Sorry... > >I just installed a fresh RH 7.1 server with compiled apache 1.3.16 and php >4.0.6 >if I make a change on a page it doesn't show > > >-- >PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Something weird
check the browser cache settings. for some bizarre reason, almost every browser i've seen has the default option set to "cache everything and never look for updates" > -Original Message- > From: David OBrien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Subject: [PHP] Something weird > > > Sorry... > > I just installed a fresh RH 7.1 server with compiled apache 1.3.16 and php > 4.0.6 > if I make a change on a page it doesn't show > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] Something weird
Sorry... I just installed a fresh RH 7.1 server with compiled apache 1.3.16 and php 4.0.6 if I make a change on a page it doesn't show -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] Something weird
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